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00:00On your Wednesday's Loose Women Live, it's Christine Lampard, Kelly Bryan, Colleen Nolan
00:29and Judy Love.
00:30Hello, thank you very much. Welcome to your Wednesday Loose Women. Coming up, a classic
00:42TV reunion. 25 years after Hobie City debuted on our screens, three of its biggest stars
00:48are with us today. We've made them feel at home in the loose infirmary. Serious, dangerous
00:56stuff happening in there, as you can see. Angela Griffin, Lisa Faulkner and Nicola
01:02Stephenson. Look back on that Hobie memory. Clearly not that many memories, they can't
01:09put the gloves on, they've forgotten how to do it. More importantly, their lasting friendship
01:14that they got from the show. They'll be leaving the infirmary soon, don't worry. Also today,
01:19as the King and Queen welcome the Emperor and Empress of Japan to exchange presents,
01:25how good are you at gift giving? And can you hide your real reaction when you get a bad
01:30one for yourself? And England are through. Ironically, that was quite lacklustre. Because
01:42of course, sadly, they have been criticised for another lacklustre performance. But how
01:46do you deal with disappointment? First today though, it's the story still dominating the
01:52news. Searches are continuing for 19-year-old Jay Slater in Tenerife after he disappeared
01:58almost a fortnight ago. Social media is dominated by conspiracy theories and online slews, guessing
02:06what has happened to him. We hope of course he's found safe and well. But with a lot of
02:11misinformation being spread, should these social media detectives be in some way punished?
02:18I mean, I don't know how you go about that. But it's just a complete free reign online
02:24to say what you want. And there's an anonymity as well, or a sense of it, that I'm typing
02:29it to really what I say maybe doesn't matter. Or maybe it's hurtful, but again, it doesn't
02:34matter. There's a lot of things to try to police, but I don't know what the answers
02:38are to that. Well, I don't know how you police social media. I mean, it's a minefield, isn't
02:43it? But yeah, I mean, I've obviously been reading things online. And some of it is,
02:48you know, when people are just kind of guessing, oh, I wonder if this happened to him, or maybe
02:52it's because of this, I can kind of deal with that. But the nastiness I can't deal with,
02:57not just with him, but with anyone, you know, when they start to turn nasty, because whatever
03:01you think this is somebody's loved one, whatever he's done, they love him. And I think that
03:06can be quite hurtful for anyone involved. So I think that's quite sad. But equally,
03:12I have to say that in some respects, it's fabulous now social media, because social
03:18media and people on it have found a lot of people and have helped the police massively
03:24if it's done the right way. You know, the perfect example is, don't mess with cats wasn't
03:28called mess. But you know, it was only because of certain people on Facebook that they caught
03:38serial killer, actually. And so in that respect, it was good. It's good for everyone to be
03:43on the lookout. You know, in America, I love this thing that as soon as a child goes missing
03:48in America, there's an alert goes out on everyone's mobile phone. Yeah, so it makes you aware
03:52of it. But I think it's the conspiracy theorists and the people that think they actually are
03:57Miss Marple, or whoever, drive me insane. Yeah. And can make it worse. There was an
04:06online safety bill, which was set out to protect children and adults online. The bill was passed
04:13in October 2023. And they made it a legal content the platforms will need to remove
04:19includes hate crime and inciting violence. I assumed that that was the case anyway, but
04:23clearly, it wasn't. However, there's very little mention of how the bill would tackle
04:27misinformation. That's the bit you can't, you can't police that. Yeah. So we're all reading
04:32things all of the time that just aren't true. And it influences doesn't it? Yeah, I'm just
04:37annoyed. I yeah, I mean, I, I find social media can be such a toxic place, not always.
04:43I mean, and there's a lot of, I've had a lot of really positive content, too. But you know,
04:48just recently, like below below one of my posts, it was just full of the most vile,
04:54racist comments. And I'm really done with it. I'm really just sick and tired of it.
04:58Because, you know, I pay my taxes, I've lived here all my life, my family lived here all
05:03their lives, like it should be done and dusted. Now, the colour of my skin should no longer
05:07be an issue to you. I'm a real person, perhaps you want to look behind that. Just gonna say
05:12that. But what I think, the thing that annoys me with with trolling, is that you it's, it's
05:21a digital footprint, right? It stays there forever, unless you choose to delete it. But
05:25even if someone's got a screenshot of when you originally took it or said it, it's still
05:30there. But do you want this history, this pattern, your legacy to be spreading hatred,
05:35or, you know, unkindness or conspiracies that are going to hurt other people? I think people
05:39just need to think everything that you say on social media can be on will will probably
05:45be read by that person, you're going to tag them, it's highly likely that they're going
05:50to read it. And you're not seeing the knock on effects on that family, this family in
05:54particular going through what they're going through, whatever the circumstances of that
05:58of that boy's history, it's a real mum who's dealing with the loss or the loss as in not
06:04being able to find her child. So let's just think about things before we say them. And I
06:09just think it does need to be policed. That's my, that's my opinion.
06:13You're also wondering, don't you, Judy, whether it's okay writing something sort of
06:18anonymously. But if you were to meet the person face to face, would they say the same
06:22thing?
06:23Yeah, it's true. I think yeah, a lot of people, you know, keyboard warriors, as they call
06:26them. And it's such a hard one, because we say police it, but man, we ain't got no money
06:31left to be adding any more pressure to the police. But at the same time, what I will
06:35say is that sometime, you know, I've seen things with, you know, people who have gone
06:41missing or things that have happened. And it's the people on the ground that actually
06:44know the truth what's going on. And there's a community that knows what's happening. And
06:48the little messages or the little videos that they have made has helped the police. So
06:53it's really just about getting that balance and the ones that are fueling hatred or fear
06:59or being prejudiced, those are the ones that need to be locked down. But there is some
07:02times where the people underground and know what's happening. The police at the end of
07:07the day, yes, they're trained, but they are human people like us. That actually is a bit
07:11about instincts. And sometimes you might be that one person who did see that person walking
07:16down the road who did hear that conversation of someone saying they wanted to do this and
07:20maybe write something on social media and could actually help someone. The main thing
07:24as long as it helps.
07:26Yeah, of course. And that's where all the cases that we would come across. I think it's
07:31just there's such a fascination with crime right now, isn't it? I know I think my sister
07:35watches it, could watch it all day long.
07:37I think, you know, I think it is, I think it's about the feeling of we see so much in
07:42real life and never really get much of the answer of what happened. So when for me, when
07:46you watch these kind of documentary, you see the full holistic, like understanding of what
07:51happened, what the person was like before, what was the build up, what was the evidence?
07:55And I think that gives you some kind of, I know it's sad to say, but some kind of closure
07:59and some kind of escapism that when these brutal things happen, hopefully sometimes
08:04it will be solved.
08:05Yeah, yeah, very true. Moving on to something very different now. Last night saw Love Island's
08:13Heart Race Challenge, which saw all of the residents, including Joey Essex, attempting
08:19to get the heart rate of the others pumping with sexy dancing like this. That's not quite
08:27dancing, is it? It's just a lot of kissing and licking. Anyway, as attractive as you
08:33might find that, what gets your heart racing, Judy? Is it Joey Essex dressed in a red cape?
08:39No, no. And it is daytime TV, so I'll give you a little like daytime TV. You know what
08:45it is? No, actually, I like, you know, if you're actually dating someone, seeing someone
08:48and when you're out in an event and they're quite a confident person and you can see them
08:52really holding like a group of people's attention and then you just catch each other's
08:57eye and you give them the eye and they give you the eye and like you have that kind of
09:00flirting or that daytime texting, you know, when it's like, babes, I'm going to be home
09:04about seven. They text you throughout the day. You look gorgeous when you're left. Unexpectedly.
09:10Yeah, there's like daytime kind of texting, flirting until you actually open the door
09:14and then yeah. And then it becomes not daytime. Yeah, yeah. It's that early, early stages,
09:22I suppose, isn't it? That when you talk about the heart pulsing and you're kind of really
09:26excited, it's a wonderful feeling. Yeah, it doesn't run out, does it? It doesn't run out.
09:30No, it doesn't. It just changes.
09:35No, it doesn't run out, actually. It doesn't have to run out. No, it doesn't have to run out.
09:40I mean, that what happened on Love Island, my heart would race out of embarrassment.
09:44Absolutely. That heart racing as well. Oh, no. I'm so awkward. I feel so awkward.
09:51But no, I think it's a great, I love that feeling of your heart rate and that adrenaline rush and
09:57all that. I mean, you were saying with Frank, you still get it. Yeah, absolutely. We've been together for
10:0215 years together now. And honestly, like he's been away with the football, as I'm sure if anybody's
10:07watching at all. He's been over in Berlin. He's back this morning. I haven't seen him yet and I
10:12can't wait to see him. I can't wait to go there and go, oh, you're back. I'm really, really excited.
10:18My heart would race.
10:21What Christine is saying, Frank, is she can't wait to put the key through the door.
10:27Yes, Frank.
10:31Yeah, no, I love that feeling of watching my children's dads, like if he's like with the
10:36children. Oh, you know that lovely feeling when like you can see men, even with the out,
10:41like pushing their kid in the buggy, just makes me go, oh, it's going to be such a good dad.
10:46But that's like when your heart melts and that's the love that they're showing. That's part of you,
10:52isn't it? And it just feels, I just love that. Yeah, it just gives you the warm, fuzzy, like
10:56the world is a good place feeling. I love that feeling. No, I understand that. We're talking
10:59about hearts pulsing and racing, Kelly. What does that for you though? Well, it's not for daytime
11:04telling. You might want to read on. Interesting. Quiet, everybody. Just for a moment. Because
11:15after the break, we are asking, why are we all getting so noisy? Noisy? Yes, we are, aren't we?
11:23Yes. Yes, we are. Yeah, yeah. And as the Royals exchange gifts with the Japanese imperial family
11:30at last night's state banquet, what's the worst gift you've ever received? Kelly has a confession.
11:37Yes, she does. That's coming up. Oh, she's gone all quiet, ironically. Yeah,
11:41she's got all of that coming up after the break. See you in a bit.
11:54Welcome back. Coming up, they're still in the loose infirmary, Holby City stars, Angela Griffiths,
12:03Lisa Cunningham, and Nicholas Stephenson. Share their memories with us very soon,
12:06including how Madonna once visited them on set. Now, imagine the scene. You've arrived at the
12:13airport for your big summer holiday. You're checking in, you're sorting your luggage,
12:18and suddenly, you hear someone behind you starting to sing. You turn around,
12:23and a concert has started by the check-in desks. How would you feel? Yes, no.
12:30Well, Heathrow Airport have launched a live music stage to give up-and-coming acts the
12:38chance to perform for waiting crowds this summer. Is it just too much noise, Kelly? Is there not
12:46going on at check-in that you don't need anything else going on behind you? How would you feel?
12:51Would it brighten your day up a little bit? I think it just depends on where it is,
12:55like, where the band is located. I think it's great for up-and-coming singers. Amazing. There's
13:00loads of travel delays that can happen, so having a little bit of entertainment, always a good thing.
13:05But if that band is right behind your, like, near to your desk where you're trying to do the check-in,
13:10and the lady's going, have you packed yourself? Have you left your bag unattended?
13:17I'd be like, sorry, what was that? I mean, that would just drive me insane, right?
13:21They've got a million and one questions to get through. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Is it
13:26labelled? Is it tagged? Is it whatever? Do you gotta weigh it? And that would really wind me up.
13:32Okay. But if it was somewhere nice, you know, after you've been through, you know, your bags are safe
13:36and they've been checked through, and you're sitting there with, you know, a cup of coffee
13:39or whatever waiting for your plane, and then someone's entertaining you, that might be quite
13:44nice. Okay, so the first phase is not the phase for you. The second is after security. You know everything's
13:49done. Yeah. When you know everything's done, all that complicated stuff is done. Right. Yeah.
13:54I think that kind of makes, that makes sense. But do you know what the problem is? I think
13:57everybody has different tastes of music. So, you know, I don't mind a little jazz, a little reggae,
14:02especially if I'm going to the Caribbean. But if it was like rock, I might be like, hey, hold on a minute.
14:06I need something on the rocks. Do you know what I mean? I might be a little bit like that. But I think,
14:10yeah, like you said, it's a great opportunity for new artists. But I think the issue is we're
14:14getting so nosy because we're just too afraid to sit still in our own thoughts. That's all it is.
14:20We've just become complacent to the sense of just having constant noise because it distracts us.
14:25That's all it is. Yeah, but you need distraction in that queue when you're checking in. I know, but, you
14:29know, think of the silence. There's nothing better for me. I love... It's not silence, it's people moaning and groaning.
14:34For me, the quietness, like when my kids leave the house, I'm just kicking them out,
14:38sitting in the house with like no noise and the washing machine.
14:42Like that for me is the most... Oh, no, that silence is...
14:48That's quite a... That was the washing machine I had back in the days.
14:54I want a silent one. That's not the kind of one. No, I know what you mean. That kind of silence is lovely when you sit in the garden and the birds chirping.
15:02There's nothing better and nothing... That's my life right now, and I love it, but I mean,
15:08I think it's a great idea to have that in an airport. I do think it would pass the time.
15:12It's so stressful, those queues, and sometimes you can be in those queues for two hours. Also, if you've
15:18two small children, which I have done, and say I'm flying back to Belfast, and that's kind of why I
15:22know exactly where that picture was taken there. I know the terminal, so I know where that stage
15:26might be, and actually I have to say it doesn't bother me at all to try and occupy
15:31the two of them. They're starting to get bored. There's a big, big queue, and like you say,
15:35you're sent to self-check in. I hate that. I want to go to a person. If there was maybe just something
15:40in the background as a bit of a distraction, people maybe are feeling a bit happier.
15:45Generally, you tend to be maybe going away, hopefully for a nice reason. Well, they do it with pianos
15:49now, don't they? In train stations and stuff, and I love that when I get there and someone's
15:53playing on the piano. I do. I think it's quite a nice, happy distraction. Who could get the
15:58Nolans up? Don't ruin people's flights. Oh, lovely. It's like elevated busking, isn't it?
16:06Yeah, you're actually giving your space to shut up. That's true, and there's a big audience. A lot of
16:09people coming through at the time, so you never know what might happen. Okay, we're talking
16:14royals, and last night King Charles and Queen Camilla entertained the Emperor and Empress of
16:19Japan as their official state visit continued. They exchanged gifts with the King, giving the
16:25Japanese royal family a bottle of whiskey with silver and gold beakers to drink it, while the
16:32King and Queen received a very expensive handbag and a signed photo of the Emperor and Empress.
16:38I know. No doubt, they were all very delighted with those presents, but when have you ever
16:45received a gift that you just kind of thought, oh, really? They don't know me at all.
16:51Have you ever had that moment, Judy? Do you know what? About 10 years ago, I was dating someone, and
16:55sounds like a very long time, 10 years. Anyway, let's not get into that, but 10 years ago,
17:00I was dating this guy, and he thought he picked the most nicest gift. He thought he was being
17:04really thoughtful, and he bought me a spandex, is that what we call it? Spanx. Spanx, he bought me, yeah.
17:13Now, was there a conversation leading?
17:16Wow. Was that the face you did?
17:22Did you do that face when you opened the presents? I did. I wanted to lick it. I mean, I shouldn't say that.
17:30I just was, as you can see, I was, and he bought me two colors, like the flesh color,
17:35and the black. Like one wasn't enough? Like one was enough, and then I was, I just, why? And he was like,
17:41oh, I was, it's because you was, what I'm trying to say is you're beautiful no matter what, and I just
17:45went to support you because you was moaning about it, and I just thought that was a nice thing.
17:49I said, oh, that's so sweet. There's the door.
17:57Support me by, support me by holding it up when we're doing exercise.
18:04I mean, support me then, hold it up. Don't buy me support. Don't buy me support, I was, oh man.
18:11You have a confession, actually, Kelly, when it comes to gifts, don't you? Oh, right, yeah, we're on your
18:16national television. Thanks, Christine. No, like, so look, so look, no, look, kids get lots and lots
18:23of presents, right? I'm just trying to give myself an out here. Yeah, yeah. Kids get lots and lots
18:27of presents, you know, and, you know, some of them are duplicates sometimes. They'll get the same thing
18:32from the same, so I got this present, sorry, Kerry got this present from a friend, and I gifted the
18:39present, because it still had the tag on it, so I put it in a gift bag and gifted the present.
18:44So, so Kerry came back to me and went, Kaori, Mummy, but that's the gift that you get that,
18:50that she bought me last year for a present. Oh, no. So I basically re-gifted the gift that she'd been
18:58to the same person. To the same person. Oh, I thought I was back. I'm sorry, that's terrible.
19:04I'm sorry. It does happen. Sack me, Mummy. I'm not gonna lie, it happened. I gave someone a gift,
19:10because we get things when we, you know, do shows, and I had a bottle of champagne with
19:14two glasses. I thought, oh, you know what, it was late. I thought this would be great, wrapped it up
19:18and gave it to them, and then they sent me a picture of it at the bottom saying, thanks,
19:22and I was like, oh, when I opened the picture, the bottle actually said, Judy, love.
19:29So they give, so I said to them, oh no, oh gosh, the company got it wrong. It was supposed to be
19:34my signature, but it was, it was a gift that someone had given to me. You were busted. But
19:40then I would have thought, why would I want a present with her signature on it? I don't know,
19:44I was just trying to find some kind of. That's a terrible get out. Baby, I know, I know. A relative
19:49excuse, wasn't it? Lodgy getting attached, it's really funny. Corrine had said I, she was given
19:57a book about killer crocodiles for Christmas from her mother-in-law. Wow. Caroline said I received
20:05a wristband to wear on a night to stop snoring. Not very romantic. I've had that, I've had that.
20:11Shirley says the worst present I got was a pair of wellies from my husband.
20:15Tracy got a set of hand warmers for people who play golf. She doesn't play golf.
20:22Oh, Joanne says I got stretch mark cream from my husband.
20:28Oh, Joanne, you need to calm down. Judy, you two have a lot in common here.
20:33I'm coming to your house, Joanne. Oh, I'm sorry.
20:40Wendy gave you the stretch marks.
20:41Yes, exactly. Still to come as England face a criticism of their performance on the pitch last
20:50night. We're asking, how easy is it to deal with disappointment? And would you call out a friend
20:56who had let you down? We'll see you after this.
21:00Best-selling author and pioneering mental health campaigner, the absolutely fabulous Ruby Wax joins
21:14the Loose Women. She's on the road again with her most compelling stage show yet. Find out why she's
21:21using her own mental illness to help others. Ruby Wax, tomorrow, 12.30 on Loose Women.
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21:39healthy this lunchtime. It's Nurse Nolan. Colleen is here, everybody.
21:44Dr. Love herself, Judy Love. Opening her Facebook, Kelly Brian GP.
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22:04Still to come, 25 years after becoming best friends on the set of Holby City,
22:08Angela Griffin, Lisa Faulkner and Nicola Stephenson reunite,
22:13revealing the secrets of their enduring friendship and why they used to get into so much
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24:12Good luck with that. Now England have finished top of their group in Euro 2024 and qualified for
24:17the knockout stages. But there's been more criticism in today's papers with the Sun saying
24:22what's the scorey? Yawning glory after their supposed lacklustre performance. I mean that
24:29criticism is going to hurt isn't it really? It's one of those things and I know certainly I've been
24:34to the World Cup with Frank. Was that a Euros? Can't remember. It was definitely the World Cup
24:39and they do get it. I can say, well certainly Frank, I can speak from his perspective. Like
24:44there's no one wants to win more than they do. And does it affect them? Oh it 100% affects
24:49him yes absolutely. But then again you have to dust yourself down and get out there and do a
24:53very good job. I equally understand all of the people that have spent a lot of money to go to
24:57a match and have to fly somewhere. You're wanting an energetic clash. So if you don't feel like
25:02you're getting that I can understand. That's where the problems lie. But ultimately no one wants to
25:06lose. So it's such a fine balance. You just kind of want them to come out now at the next stage
25:12all guns blazing ready to do a football war really. And I think that will kind of wipe out a lot of
25:17the negative kind of stuff at the minute. But lacklustre seems to have been the word that's
25:21been attached to the past couple of games unfortunately. But it does. It affects you and
25:25the disappointment affects you. And it affects all of us. It's not just football. It affects everybody
25:30Kelly. Yeah it does affect everybody. I mean I support the boys. I think you know the last match
25:35was better. It was a better performance and they were holding the ball keeping control of the game.
25:40So yeah I just wish them the best of luck for the next. Because that's what we've got to do.
25:44We've got to build them up stay supportive and move on to the next match. But in terms of
25:48disappointment I think it depends obviously on the relationship with that disappointment you know.
25:53Because if it's someone that doesn't really mean that much to you then you can sort of you know let
25:57that go and move on. But in sort of in my situation the disappointment was from someone that I knew
26:02really well and I expected better of. And I guess I think it's about the length of the relationship
26:08isn't it. Or you know if it's a family member there are certain places that you put
26:13or levels of importance that you put on people. And when I was poorly I think that's when I learned
26:18a lot about who was actually my friend or who was actually there for me. Because you then you know
26:23you then began to see that you know if you weren't up for going out or if you weren't you know feeling
26:28well or I couldn't communicate particularly well. All of those things it became really quiet.
26:33You know my phone didn't ring. I didn't get as much as many people coming over. And I know that
26:39that's it can be really it can make people feel uncomfortable. Because they're not sure what you
26:45might need in that situation. What can I say? What can I do that's going to make your situation better?
26:50And I get that. But I think there were times like when I was having chemotherapy or
26:56or a treatment and I would ask you know whoever to be there for me. And I remember like there's a
27:01member of my family and they just you know they were supposed to be there and they weren't.
27:05And they let me down at the very last minute. Which meant that I'd given the usual
27:10family member the time off and said look don't worry it's fine this is covered this week.
27:15And then I got a sort of phone call like 10 minutes before the treatment was about to start.
27:19And I was like for a start you know the anxiety goes through the roof. Because you're like okay
27:24I've got to find somebody now. Because there's just certain things you can't do. Or it's more difficult
27:27if you're you know if you've got a line in. It's just more difficult to navigate or get
27:32your lunch or whatever. Go to the toilet or whatever the things that you need to do.
27:36And also just the company of getting through it you know. And so that was really difficult.
27:41But what I love about that situation in particular is that we were able to kind
27:46of work through that as a friendship. I mean I did draw a line in the sand and say look
27:50it wasn't cool and this is how you left me. And this is how it made me feel. And I was able to
27:54do that to quite a few people in my life at that time. I was able to say look at this one time
27:59I really needed you. And you know and you said you were going to be there. And then you weren't.
28:04And that I found really disappointing. And it hurt a great deal. I think if you value that
28:10friendship or that relationship or that family member you can get to the other side of it.
28:15You know if you give yourself some time and watch that person's reactions in terms of how they value
28:20that relationship too. How they respond is important. You know do they try? Do they make
28:26an effort on their part? And in my situation they very much did. So it's been really it's been a
28:31happy ending. And you were able to talk her through. It's the key. You were able to get to a point.
28:36I think that's the thing. You've got to be in a position where you feel you can discuss it
28:41possibly. Sometimes you feel like you're not in that position. I wasn't in that position. I had a
28:45friend come into my life a few years ago who I thought was going to be a friend for the rest of
28:51my life. Like we saw each other every day. We laughed every day. We were there for each other.
28:57And then it just stopped. And we've never rowed. We've never fallen out. And just this one day
29:06it went I can't come around today. And then that just went on and on and on to the point where
29:11she just stopped. And I'd say it affected me for at least six months because I couldn't.
29:18Every time I asked her like what's happened? What's the problem? Why are we not seeing each other?
29:23It was always oh no we are you know I still love you my friend. I've just been doing this. I'm a
29:27bit busy. When really what she should have said was I've kind of moved on. You've moved a bit
29:33further away and I've just moved on. And I would have gone okay I don't get it but okay. But she
29:39none of that was said until gradually I thought I'm not messaging anymore. And if she wants to
29:44see me she'll message me. And she didn't. But it took me about six months to really. I used to go
29:49to bed at night and lie there thinking I don't I just don't understand. It was I felt like a five
29:54year old. Like why is that happening? And then you know one day eventually I said you know what
30:00there's nothing you can do about it. You just have to move on. But I saw her once after that.
30:07And instantly when I saw her that was there was that connection because we did generally get on.
30:12But I never let her back in again. That was the last time I saw her because I thought I can't.
30:16Because what about the next time? So I think for me is I think once you are disappointed or someone's
30:23let you down as much as I can forgive them I'll never let them fully in again because they've
30:31let me down. Yeah. I think you know I think it I used to try I think before even though I'm quite
30:39a loud person I used to be quite you know nervous and in school when I was younger. And I've learned
30:43over these years that I try to not live up to just and live up to anybody for their expectations.
30:48This is who I am. And if I have disappointed somebody I'm always open to have that conversation
30:54because I feel like you can grow from it. Like maybe you will question oh have I been a good
30:58friend? Oh I haven't turned up. But I think where I am in my life you know disappointing someone I
31:03had this issue with someone I didn't come to an event. And in that moment I sat back and thought
31:08what what was it? Are they projecting their own issue? Where they are in their place at their
31:12moment in their mind? Or was it just because they wanted to say I was at the event? And in that
31:16moment I had the conversation but I was honest with saying look my priority right now is my family.
31:23I'm the main breadwinner. I don't have no parents. I don't have a partner. I've just got me and my
31:28kids and my priority is working so that I can you know provide for them and build a foundation.
31:33But any other disappointment where you've had from a relationship or family or a partner
31:37you know I've dealt with that and it is very heartbreaking but I would honestly say
31:41it's a time for you to be able to reflect and think where did you place that person in your
31:44life? What did you miss that you didn't see that they could break your trust or disappoint you?
31:49And then just take the time out sit in that and heal from it and just put back into you.
32:00Still to come I need three doses of Holby City Legends stat as they say. They're still wearing
32:07Angela Griffin, Lisa Faulkner and Nicholas Stephenson. We'll come back with 25 years of
32:12medical drama memories and the secrets of their very close friendship. Coming up after this.
32:30Hello again. Welcome back. Now
32:33we have a cold clean in the loose infirmary. Nurse Nolan you're needed to direct our patients
32:42to set please. How's it looking in there? Yes Kira. Christine don't worry I'm on it.
32:49Come on come on move move move out the way emergency. Oh I can't open the door brilliant.
32:56Thank the lord. She's here. Listen don't worry I'm gonna prep them now.
33:01Needles at the ready and I will get them out to you as soon as possible.
33:18Thank you very much Nurse Nolan. Very clearly in very very good hands there. Right whilst they're
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34:54Thank you David. Now cast your mind back to 1999. Tragedy by Steps was number one. Tony Blair was in
35:00Downing Street and up to 12 million of us were tuning in to a new weekly medical drama. Now
35:07before we speak to three of its biggest stars let's remind ourselves of the trials and tribulations
35:12of life at Holby City. I can't stop thinking about him.
35:19I just, I just wish that my dad would like him. Where's my Washington? Planning a weekend in New
35:25York actually. I'll give my regards to Staten Island. Yeah. Is that not a song?
35:45I thought I'd lost her.
35:49I don't know what I'd have done.
35:50You really couldn't wish for a better friend.
35:58Please welcome Holby City stars Angela Griffin, Nicola Stevenson and Lisa Faulkner.
36:05It is so good to see the three of you. Look at those memories. I loved watching that there.
36:20Oh incredible isn't it? Yeah 1999. We were only about five. We gassed backstage.
36:28All of our hair's longer now. That's what I've noticed. You did all meet actually prior to Holby
36:33but it was Holby City that did cement this now lifelong friendship between you and there's a
36:40bigger group of girls but the three of you at least experienced something so special in that.
36:44Yeah we really did. Our paths had crossed. We hadn't, we'd hung out one night because we went
36:48out with, we went out with some boys from Hollyoaks. Yes. And so we'd passed in the boys
36:54Hollyoaks house and we, I think we passed in some toilets at the festival. No we had, oh yeah we
37:00had a long long time ago at a festival. And then we did the Elle Style Awards. Well we met in the day.
37:05Hadn't we? Yeah and we met at the train station because we went to do some research.
37:10We went to a hospital to do some research. Yeah. And I met you at the train station. We went and
37:15then you said do you want to come out with me tonight? I'm going to the Elle Style Awards.
37:18Oh yeah. Are you alright? And we all met on the carpet. Yeah. You know what I love about you
37:23three? Obviously you've been here all morning in one of the dressing rooms and all I've heard is
37:28laughter and chatting away. How did you get through those serious scenes, the three of you,
37:33if you were ever in a scene together? Without laughing. We didn't. We didn't. We were a nightmare.
37:39Thank goodness it wasn't theatre and it was TV. Go again and again. Stop laughing. Those two had to be really,
37:46my character was really serious and those two were always picking on her. I remember we'd be
37:50laughing and laughing and then suddenly we'd have to be really like. Mean to each other. Yeah.
37:55There was a moment where you lot just was in giggles, isn't it? Yeah, I showed Nicola a trick
38:02just before we're about to go for a take where I made her arm shrink. It's a really good trick. I'm
38:07not going to do it now. I'll show you after but yeah and I did it just before a take and she
38:11really thought that her arm had shrunk which was hilarious and then we had to go for a take and it
38:16was ten to seven. Nobody liked us. The day was gone. But normally in jobs, it's a bubble isn't it?
38:23It's for that period of time and then you all move on, you know. But you've stayed together. You're,
38:28you know, each other's godparents for children. Yeah. What's been the secret to the longevity of
38:33the friendship? The fact we've got so old. I mean, that's why he's so funny. Do you know what? I think
38:39we've supported each other through everything, haven't we? Yeah. We had, we had, we got, we had
38:44our kids at the same time and we, yeah, we were all single, weren't we? We were all going out and
38:50dating and meeting boys and then we all got married. We all had our children. We're in the
38:55middle. Yeah. I think living near each other is very, very important because we disappear off
39:01sometimes to do a job for like four months. Yeah. And then you come back and you don't want to have
39:05to kind of go and spend the whole weekend with other friends. You want to just be able to nip
39:09and pop and I think that's, so we nip and pop to each other's houses, cup of tea, quick dog walk,
39:14catch up and I also think it's, there's no, there's never been any competition. Yeah. That's
39:19so different in personality, in the way that we look, in the style of our acting, in, just in
39:24everything and so therefore it's just always been really, really even, really supportive, um, just,
39:31just dead equal. Yeah. And they're very funny and, and fit. Well, your friendship, your friendship
39:36started on, you know, Hopeless City. How did you feel? Where was you when you found out
39:41that it was coming to an end? Oh, we were really sad about it, weren't we? I think I saw it on
39:46social media that it was coming to an end. I was devastated. I loved it so much. I watched the last episode and I
39:51cried my eyes out, I've got to say. Yeah. I found it really, really, for so many reasons, because it's
39:56such an incredible show. Yes. But also because of what it's done for so many people in terms of
40:02directors and writers and actors and their first credits and, and it's primetime TV and then, and
40:08then, and then it was just gone. Yeah. I mean, just watching it back then reminded us of how
40:13significant it's been in all of our lives. Yeah. You know, bringing us on the sofa together as
40:16family. Yeah. You hope to work together again in something? Oh, that's what we'd love to do. Yeah,
40:21we're always coming up with ideas and things, aren't we? And we sit and we write things and
40:25we write treatments. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe, maybe it will happen. But like somebody like Angela,
40:30your career has stemmed across, I mean, decades. I always remember watching you, you know,
40:36Corrie, Emmerdale, you've even done Now Pleasant. I did, I did do an episode. Yeah, we've both done that.
40:40Yeah, you've done so much. But do you, because this is a question that I get asked a lot,
40:44do you still have to cast for the work that you go up for? A hundred thousand percent. Yeah. I've
40:50like almost built a self-tape studio in my house. I mean, I've painted a wall. I've painted a blank
40:55wall. Yeah. But yeah, no, absolutely. I think, yeah, I don't know anyone really, I think other
41:00than probably Jodie Comer. I think everyone has to, has to self-tape and cast. But do you think
41:06it's changed for an actress like yourself? In terms of being a black actress on TV? Yeah. Yeah,
41:11definitely. It's definitely changed. I mean, I'd like it. I obviously, obviously want to work more.
41:16But yeah, no, it's definitely changed from when I first started. You know, when I was,
41:19when we were doing Eve and Holby, I think I was the only black actress in the first series that
41:24we did. Yeah, probably. So it used to be there would be like one black actor or one diverse
41:29actor within a show. Whereas now, I think that's changed when you look at Waterloo Road. Yeah. In
41:33front and behind the camera. In front and behind. Yeah. You need behind to be able to come in front.
41:37You've got such wonderful memories. We were talking about Top of the Pops as well. It was
41:41being filmed at the same time when you, you'd have seen Madonna and you'd have been popping in.
41:45There's all of these wonderful memories because of Holby City. But what I'm most jealous of is,
41:50you all go to Lisa's house and Lisa and John cook for you all. I love it. Absolutely.
41:56That's, that's the most jealous thing I feel about you. Can I just say, don't be jealous because she
42:00had a day old croissant this morning. Oh yeah. So I have to say, these two are absolutely brilliant
42:07partners. Well, there you go. I'm very lucky. Well, I'm jealous of you all. Thank you so much,
42:11ladies. Lovely to have you here. Thank you. It's all we've got time for today. Ruby Waxx and The
42:19Chases, Paul Sinha will be here tomorrow. Have a lovely afternoon. Bye-bye.
42:49Bye-bye.
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