00:00The budget is here and the budget session is going on.
00:03This whole season is about the budget.
00:04The rest of the provinces have also started giving their budgets.
00:07Punjab has a budget that is in surplus.
00:10The rest of the budgets are going into deficit at this time.
00:13And that deficit is not small or big.
00:14The deficit of Pakistan's own budget is big.
00:17And the payments of interest and loans in the deficit are also at a good level.
00:23We will go to the estimates and numbers and all those nitty-gritties in the second segment.
00:28But overall, he was made a target of criticism in the Senate.
00:32The Pakistan People's Party, which is an alliance of the government,
00:35also made him a target of criticism.
00:36In fact, he even walked out of the Senate.
00:38If they had to bring him back,
00:41then I don't see Chairman Bilal Bhutto Zardari coming back.
00:44The situation is that the government is still in negotiations with the People's Party
00:48whether they will support the government to pass the budget in the same way or not.
00:53Whether they will support PMLN or not.
00:55So this is an ongoing situation.
00:57But from 2018 till now,
01:00in these 6 years,
01:027 foreign ministers have been elected.
01:057 foreign ministers being elected means that our economic policies are failing so much
01:12that we are not able to get the country out of this whirlwind.
01:16We will talk about this.
01:17But let's hear what the senators said in the Senate.
01:20And these senators are not only from the opposition side.
01:23In fact, the senators on the government's side,
01:25the allies on the government's side,
01:26and the people in the government
01:29also made him a target of criticism.
01:31Some people were defending him,
01:31but some also made him a target of criticism.
01:33Listen to this.
01:53The present budget does not reflect the hopes and aspirations of the people of Pakistan.
02:01It is time for us to rise above IMF dictates
02:04and rely on the strength of our own people.
02:06Visionless budget.
02:08A budget without any thought.
02:10Which has been made only for the elite.
02:13You have taxed from grade 1 to 16.
02:16You are giving your people a death sentence.
02:18What kind of justice is this?
02:21Let me reiterate.
02:22A country in which from 2018 to 6 years from now,
02:267 Treasury Ministers will be elected.
02:29How will the balance of the policy be corrected?
02:32And how will we see the balance of the Ministry of Treasury
02:37moving forward in a reverse direction?
02:39Governments change,
02:40but how many ministers and treasuries change between governments,
02:44this is in front of us.
02:44Anyway, you have heard this thought.
02:46You have heard the trail.
02:47In this, everyone has rejected this budget on their own.
02:52And made it a target of criticism.
02:54But before we come to the budget,
02:56before we discuss about the budget,
02:58and I put it in front of you,
02:59what has happened in the budget,
03:01what is good, what is bad,
03:03we will go towards politics.
03:04Because the budget has been passed,
03:06but along with that, in politics,
03:08rather than talking about the budget,
03:09it is being discussed whether to have negotiations or not.
03:12Once again, there was a debate on the topic of negotiations.
03:14A few days ago,
03:17that it can be discussed,
03:19whether to talk to the government or not.
03:21There was a discussion on this for a long time.
03:22But once again, there was a debate.
03:23A few days ago, it was started,
03:25that maybe it can be discussed with the government.
03:26But yesterday,
03:27a statement by Mehmood Achakzai,
03:29once again set fire to this fire.
03:32Listen to this.
03:33Now, all of us will have to decide together,
03:36how to run this country,
03:37how to take this country forward.
03:39Now, you are saying that everyone should talk.
03:42So, will Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari be included in those politicians?
03:47Why not?
03:49Before this, I had already told you in my program,
03:52that Mr. Achakzai had given a hint in a meeting,
03:55that there will be a discussion with Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
03:58and they are ready to talk,
04:00and it will be in some time.
04:01But, because many were inviting PMLN,
04:05that somehow all these parties should come together,
04:09and talk to the government.
04:10In this, there was also a Senator Irfan Siddiqui.
04:13But when Senator Irfan Siddiqui talked about Mr. Achakzai,
04:17then he said,
04:18what will be the topic of discussion?
04:20How will the discussions take place?
04:21Have you changed your point of view,
04:23about the discussions that will take place?
04:24It felt as if he did not understand the discussions.
04:27Listen to this.
04:28You are saying that Mr. Achakzai's committee will talk to us.
04:33Now, I do not know what Mr. Achakzai's committee will talk about,
04:36what guarantee will they give us,
04:37and what is their position,
04:39that this parliament is not right,
04:41that it is on form 45,
04:43that we cannot talk to them.
04:45If that position is still there,
04:46then what will be the discussion?
04:47There will be no discussion.
04:48And if that position is over,
04:50then they should announce,
04:51that from now on,
04:52he is not a thief, he is not a dacoit,
04:54he has become pure.
04:55Then we will also talk to him.
04:57Okay, since we are talking about the permission for a political dialogue,
05:01so Mr. Achakzai's statement came,
05:03before this, the government was saying,
05:05talk to us, talk to us,
05:06now this statement has come in front of you,
05:08that they are saying,
05:08there can be no discussion,
05:09Mr. Irfan Siddiqui,
05:10and Mr. Irfan Siddiqui was one of the people,
05:12who initially said,
05:14come and talk to us.
05:15But what is Barrister Gauhar Khan saying,
05:17at this time,
05:17the Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf,
05:18he is saying,
05:19give permission for a political dialogue,
05:21this is the matter of 11th June,
05:23the time when I was saying,
05:25that the riots had started,
05:26from that time till now.
05:28When Barrister Gauhar had said this,
05:30after that,
05:31the riots had increased even more,
05:34listen to what he had said.
05:36Mr. Gauhar Khan has said many times,
05:38that the injustices that have happened to me,
05:40I am ready to forgive them.
05:42The dialogue that we have talked about,
05:44to move this country forward,
05:46Mr. Gauhar Khan has given permission for that.
05:48We will now continue our dialogue,
05:50on the basis of unity,
05:51under the leadership of Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai.
05:55Then Mr. Shoaib Shaheen said,
05:57that on the advice of the Supreme Court,
06:01Mr. Imran Khan has given permission for dialogue,
06:03for negotiations,
06:04to Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai.
06:08Mr. Imran Khan gave him this advice,
06:10advised him,
06:11that at this time,
06:12you have the biggest support in Pakistan,
06:15and the Pakistanis need you.
06:17Therefore,
06:18try to settle these matters through negotiations.
06:22And after his consultation,
06:24and his advice,
06:26he empowered Mehmood Achakzai.
06:29Mr. Shoaib Shaheen is saying this,
06:31after Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai's statement yesterday,
06:34he is saying this today.
06:35But today,
06:36on behalf of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
06:38a statement has come,
06:39that they will not talk.
06:42I will tell you two statements.
06:43First, listen to Mr. Umar Ayyub's statement.
06:45And then,
06:46Mr. Rauf Hassan's statement will give more clarity.
06:48First, Mr. Umar Ayyub.
06:50Mr. Imran Khan has clearly said,
06:52that our Alliance Chairman,
06:54Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai,
06:56he wants to talk to someone from the Alliance platform.
06:59He should definitely do it.
07:01He is from the Alliance platform.
07:03And here,
07:04there is a demand for Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
07:06Our prisoners,
07:07I repeat again,
07:08to Mr. Imran Khan,
07:09to Bushra Bibi,
07:10to all our prisoners,
07:11to end the cases against us.
07:13After that,
07:14we will talk.
07:15Now,
07:16what is Mr. Rauf Hassan saying?
07:17Because,
07:18he said,
07:19let's talk from the Alliance side.
07:20But,
07:21Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
07:22has a certain position,
07:23which will remain firm.
07:24Listen to what Mr. Rauf is saying.
07:25We met with Mr. Hassan yesterday.
07:26We met in great detail.
07:27An information,
07:28which was going on in the media,
07:30regarding PTI,
07:31which is going to negotiate
07:33with three political parties,
07:34the Mandate thieves.
07:35So,
07:36very clearly,
07:37in very blunt words,
07:38he said that
07:39we have no intention
07:40to negotiate with these three political parties
07:42at any stage.
07:45Now,
07:46this confusion is continuing.
07:47We will talk about this first.
07:48And,
07:49with Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
07:50Because,
07:51the government has started talking.
07:52Before this,
07:53Maulana's conversation
07:54with PTI
07:55had reached
07:56to the end.
07:57It seemed as if
07:58somehow,
07:59an alliance will be formed.
08:00There were a lot of comments
08:01on this
08:02from the government.
08:03But,
08:04the guests who were present with me,
08:05they said
08:06that
08:07this is a
08:08very important
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