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Almost half of Israelis 'worried over erosion' of Jewish state's standing on international stage
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During the last 24 hours, Israel has seen some of the largest anti-government protests
00:05
in months.
00:06
Tens of thousands of people gathered in central Jerusalem on Sunday, calling on the government
00:09
to reach a ceasefire deal and free the dozens of hostages who are still being held in Gaza.
00:14
They also called for early elections.
00:16
Bras 24's Emerald Maxwell filed this report for us.
00:21
Nearly six months into the war, Israeli protesters have lost patience with their Prime Minister.
00:27
They're camping out in front of the Knesset for four days, after taking to the streets
00:32
on Sunday in the largest anti-government protest since the start of the conflict.
00:36
"Bibi, it's your time, we don't want you."
00:42
"I'm doing what I've been doing for the last four months.
00:48
I'm asking politely to Mr. Netanyahu to go away."
00:54
"We cannot imagine him not being replaced because he is driving us to the abyss.
01:02
If good leaders or a new coalition is not taking over, we are doomed."
01:10
After putting up a united front following October 7th, cracks in Israeli society are
01:15
re-emerging.
01:16
Benjamin Netanyahu has not delivered on his promises of destroying Hamas and bringing
01:21
all the hostages home.
01:23
Some 100 Israelis and the remains of 30 others are believed to still be detained.
01:28
Many hostages' families had refrained from publicly denouncing the Prime Minister and
01:32
the attack's aftermath, but now believe time is running out and are calling for a ceasefire.
01:39
"I'm in favour of a comprehensive deal, not just a humanitarian deal and stop at that.
01:44
I'm in favour of a deal that will free everyone, a deal in stages.
01:49
I'm happy for those who were released, yet my heart is broken that her daughter was murdered
01:53
and her body is still in Gaza and we're unable to bring her home to be buried in Israel."
02:00
Netanyahu is also facing a series of corruption charges which are slowly making their way
02:05
through the courts.
02:06
And protesters say his decisions appear to be focused on political survival over the
02:10
national interest.
02:12
Unless his government falls apart sooner, Netanyahu won't face elections until spring
02:17
of 2026.
02:18
Let's get some more analysis.
02:21
We can speak now to Arik Rudnitsky, who is project manager at the Moshe Dayan Centre
02:25
at Tel Aviv University, also a research fellow at the Israel Democracy Institute in Jerusalem.
02:30
Dr Rudnitsky, just to quote one person in that report, "We are doomed," he said, referring
02:38
there to the leadership of Benjamin Netanyahu.
02:40
How widely held is that kind of opinion?
02:44
Well, I think that the last two weeks actually witnessed two new developments that took place
02:51
that are not necessarily connected to one another, but they both have a profound impact
02:56
on the political stability and also on the public mood in Israel.
03:01
The one is the failure last month of the talks or the indirect negotiations between Israel
03:06
and Hamas in Qatar.
03:08
And the other is the internal political crisis of the government of Netanyahu as a result
03:13
of the failure or the ruling of the Supreme Court in Israel to recruit ultra-orthodox
03:22
religious young men.
03:24
Now, the first development actually took, it made many dozens of thousands of people
03:32
to go to the streets in protesting that actually Israel did not make all its or did not exhaust
03:39
all its efforts to fulfill and complete a deal with Hamas.
03:45
And the price, I think that the price is on the table, but the problem is that Hamas also
03:50
demands that a complete ceasefire and end of war.
03:55
But also within the protest movement itself, we can hear different voices.
04:01
Now, for instance, we hear a voice that actually represents the interest or the pure interest
04:07
of the families of the hostages themselves that say that we should not, we should not
04:12
put the politics into this game.
04:15
Our cause is humanitarian.
04:18
We want the consensus in the Israeli public.
04:21
And actually, they oppose those who actually have some political motives.
04:25
They're calling upon early elections that should take place in the next couple of months.
04:35
So I think that there are many voices, but no one can rule out that the amount of rage
04:43
among the Israeli public at large, I think that the pictures, what we see on the screen
04:48
right now actually tells a true story.
04:50
Yeah, I mean, Mr. Netanyahu faces a litany of corruption charges and some cynics say
04:57
that it's not in his interest to end the war because when the music stops, he'll go to
05:01
prison.
05:02
Is that a fair assessment?
05:05
I'm aware of such cynics' analysis.
05:09
Actually, I don't tend to accept such statements.
05:15
Of course, they are quite cynic.
05:17
And I don't believe that actually Netanyahu has an interest to prolong the war.
05:22
No prime minister in Israel has an interest to prolong the war.
05:26
The war is complicated.
05:28
And I think that this complex is also evident in the Israeli public.
05:33
So this is one thing.
05:36
Another thing is that the decision is not in the hands of Netanyahu alone.
05:40
With all due respect, Netanyahu is the prime minister, but he has a cabinet, he has a minister,
05:46
we have a wide cabinet today, including also Benny Gantz and Eisenhower.
05:52
So there are many opinions and the decision is not in the head, decision making is not
05:56
only in the hands of the prime minister.
05:59
So the divisions are evident and reflected in the public opinion.
06:04
Now, what we see according to recent public opinion polls by the Israel Democracy Institute,
06:10
we see, for instance, that 49 percent in the recent poll conducted two weeks ago said that
06:16
Israel should act according to its own interests, while 43 percent say that, well, Israel should
06:22
take into consideration the pressure or the interest, mutual interest with the U.S.
06:27
So the picture is complicated.
06:30
On another poll, we heard that some 70 percent of the general Israeli public support or understand
06:40
the need for a military campaign in Rafah.
06:43
So I think that the picture is complex, but the growing rage against the conduct of the
06:51
government is quite evident.
06:53
Yeah.
06:54
And I just want to ask you one last question.
06:55
I mean, how worried are the average people in Israel about the state of relations between
07:03
Israel and Washington?
07:04
Because it appears that things have got pretty antagonistic between Benjamin Netanyahu and
07:11
the president, Joe Biden, and his regime.
07:15
What do people there say about that?
07:19
I think this is one of the most complicated issues.
07:22
Of course, you will hear various opinions here and there.
07:26
It also depends on the political orientation.
07:29
For instance, voters who voted for the coalition, support for the coalition from the right wing
07:35
supporters actually justifies, they tend to justify Israel's stance and the attitude that
07:43
Israel should actually promote its own interests.
07:48
And the interest with the U.S. actually comes in second place.
07:51
But on the other hand, we see large proportion in the public, more than 40 percent, according
08:01
to the recent poll by the Israel Democracy Institute, are worried to some extent or to
08:06
a large extent from the erosion of Israel's position on the international level.
08:12
So the picture is complex.
08:16
Take all this into consideration with the calls upon to early elections.
08:23
And I think that many, many things are going to put on the table, to be put on the table
08:29
if or should early elections should be called here in Israel.
08:33
Okay, we're going to have to see if we're out of time.
08:35
Dr. Arik Rudnicki, thank you very much indeed for speaking to us on France 24.
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