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  • 3/14/2024

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00:00 And here we are, the Agriculture Show, dear Jean-Paul.
00:04 You are also a writer.
00:06 Yes.
00:07 Have you joined the association a long time ago?
00:08 No, I'm brand new.
00:09 Brand new?
00:10 I'm a newbie.
00:11 What motivated you to play the collective, to emulate it?
00:21 Jacqueline.
00:22 Jacqueline?
00:23 I met Jacqueline.
00:25 I understand her better now.
00:27 I understand her better.
00:28 We are happy to have you here.
00:30 You are a writer with more than one title.
00:32 You have brought us to dive into our history,
00:35 to dive into the meanders of the revolution,
00:40 but also of this agriculture that…
00:43 The peasants.
00:44 The peasants, yes.
00:45 What is the significance of the word "peasant"?
00:48 It comes from the region of Thiers,
00:51 where there were peasant communities before the revolution.
00:54 People, free peasants, who did not consider themselves as…
00:58 They considered themselves as vassals of the Lord,
01:00 and not at all…
01:01 And communities.
01:03 They were not servants.
01:04 They were not servants.
01:05 They were partners.
01:06 Besides, the Thiers region has a particularity,
01:09 I don't know if you remember.
01:10 At the time, there was the Arlette-la-Guillée.
01:12 The Thiers region was more than 20%.
01:15 It was always a little weird.
01:16 Communist.
01:17 No, not even. It's not communist.
01:18 It's something else.
01:19 There is something that comes from afar.
01:20 So I am from the Thiers region.
01:21 Sausette is a name of Thiers.
01:23 And I made a saga about the peasants,
01:25 on his part, at the time of Louis XIV.
01:28 I go through the revolution.
01:29 The first is Jeanne, the shepherd.
01:31 I have a little side Jeanne d'Arc,
01:33 it's the republican shepherd.
01:35 Then after, it's women's names.
01:37 The volume 2, Adelaide.
01:40 The 3rd, which will be released in a week,
01:42 is Emma.
01:43 Emma is the…
01:45 is the honor of the Grosniar-Auvergnat.
01:48 It's the story of a deserter,
01:49 disarmed by Napoleon.
01:51 Then I continue…
01:52 It's always, I was going to say,
01:54 in ordinary people,
01:56 that we travel in an extraordinary way.
01:58 That's what's great about writing.
02:00 Finally, we transpose.
02:02 Besides, I'm on your second De Kouve.
02:04 I didn't know that the public faeces
02:06 is a double terrible humiliation
02:08 that Terroigne de Méricours must digest,
02:11 his public faeces.
02:12 What could be worse,
02:13 the fact of having been saved by Marin.
02:15 The public faeces.
02:16 I had forgotten that there were public faeces.
02:18 Ah, but that's an episode
02:19 that I took up in Adelaide,
02:21 which I discovered
02:23 while studying the Revolution.
02:24 Terroigne de Méricours,
02:25 who was called the Amazon of the Revolution,
02:27 is one of the great feminist figures
02:29 of the Revolution.
02:31 She was a little bit, a lot,
02:32 Girondine at the time of the Convention.
02:35 And she supported the Girondins.
02:37 And the women who were called
02:39 the knitters of Robespierre,
02:41 who supported the mountaineers,
02:44 well, they put her the faeces
02:46 at the entrance of the Convention.
02:48 Public faeces,
02:49 with the Lavandière's bathhouse.
02:51 It must have been a little bit of a hassle.
02:53 But that said,
02:54 that's what's good with you writers,
02:55 and with you Jean-Paul,
02:56 is that we dive into our story.
02:59 It's very important because behind...
03:01 The story of the peasants.
03:02 Behind Adelaide,
03:03 there may be my old uncle,
03:04 my old grandpa,
03:05 an old grandma.
03:07 Our ancestors are still there.
03:09 We descend from these people.
03:10 Absolutely.
03:11 And somewhere I was looking for my roots.
03:13 I think so too.
03:14 Somewhere I was looking for my roots.
03:15 And maybe my heroine
03:17 is my great-great-great-grandmother.
03:19 You have to read the books to know.
03:21 Jean-Paul, these writing moments,
03:23 they are rather morning,
03:25 in the night,
03:26 there are inspirations.
03:28 First, when it comes well.
03:30 It's an experience that is recent for me.
03:32 It's the time of Covid.
03:34 But when you put it,
03:35 it's a kind of drug.
03:36 It takes you all day,
03:38 even all night.
03:39 It takes your life.
03:40 And at night, you think.
03:41 Sometimes it happens to me to get up,
03:43 to say, "I have to write this."
03:45 It must not go.
03:46 A lot of documentation too.
03:48 Because as soon as you are in the historical fact,
03:50 it is true that there you must not betray the history.
03:52 I took an inscription at the BNF,
03:54 at the France-France-Mitterrand library.
03:55 By the way, hats off to those who did that.
03:57 It's a great thing.
03:59 A lot of information.
04:00 I was going to say, to write a book,
04:02 you have to read the blood.
04:04 Yes, and there is the Internet.
04:05 It's extraordinary.
04:07 I found things on a Polish site.
04:11 Because there, in writing,
04:13 I am on the period of 1848.
04:15 1848.
04:16 1848.
04:17 And they were very connected to Poland.
04:19 And there is a speech
04:21 of a Republican banker
04:23 which took place in November.
04:24 Because I am in November.
04:25 Always, of course, we understood.
04:27 And this banker,
04:29 they had invited representatives of Polish patriots.
04:32 I could not find the speech.
04:34 And you found it thanks to the Internet.
04:35 Internet on a Polish site.
04:37 It's incredible.
04:38 Well, volume 3 will arrive, my dear Jean-Paul.
04:40 There is already volume 1 and volume 2 available.
04:42 We call it Epoch.
04:44 Because my editor told me.
04:46 Tom, it's a bit ...
04:48 Follow your editor.
04:50 So, the first period, the second period.
04:52 Jeanne, Adelaide.
04:53 Emma.
04:54 Emma who arrives every year.
04:55 And the fourth.
04:56 And Leonor.
04:57 Well, we find you in a good bookshop.
04:59 It is orderly if the bookseller does not have it.
05:01 I am a good bookseller, unfortunately.
05:02 I have two.
05:03 We will follow the editor for the last one.
05:05 I did not look.
05:06 It's the editions.
05:07 The Gallipote.
05:08 It's a thing in the Vergnia.
05:09 Here.
05:10 But still, I have another one.
05:12 I do because I am passionate about peasants and the Republic.
05:15 Both.
05:16 And that's the ...
05:17 It's also peasants, by the way.
05:18 Spanish peasants and Spanish republicans.
05:20 Jean-Paul, you will be more engaged, in any case,
05:22 on a hard moment in our history.
05:24 My dear Jean-Paul, welcome to the Petit Nouveau,
05:26 to the Association of Peasant Writers.
05:28 Thank you.
05:29 We say to each other, see you soon anyway.
05:30 Thank you and congratulations for your welcome.
05:32 See you tomorrow.
05:33 Congratulations.
05:34 Thank you.
05:35 It's a pleasure.
05:36 (upbeat music)
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