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  • 1/18/2024
Jon and Pete Najarian join forces to discuss and debate their favorite topics, including the hottest stock-specific news and sports! Today: $HTZ, $MDC, and the Baltimore Ravens
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00:00 - Welcome back to the Rebel's Edge from Andorra,
00:04 small country between Spain and France.
00:07 And we've got quite the show for you today, folks.
00:10 In fact, a big turnaround for a stock
00:12 that we talked about last week.
00:14 We have that and more right here on the Rebel's Edge.
00:18 (upbeat music)
00:20 (upbeat music)
00:23 - I gotta tell you this, if you say frost one more time.
00:38 (laughing)
00:40 - Frost.
00:41 - I might have to go through this camera
00:43 and just go around his neck.
00:45 - Choke.
00:49 - Yeah, well, we'll call it France then.
00:51 I don't want Pete jumping through the camera.
00:53 Behind me folks is the mountain.
00:56 We're racing on that mountain today.
00:58 By the way, Pete, 55th year of Interbourse,
01:03 which started off in 1969 with stock exchanges
01:08 around the world that just figured,
01:09 hey, it would be cool to get together.
01:11 Some years we've had as much as 600 people here
01:15 and it's quite the event.
01:17 This year it wasn't that big,
01:19 but it's certainly a very robust attendance
01:22 and a lot of really fun people in FinTech,
01:26 people from exchanges, brokerages,
01:29 various different businesses that support
01:32 both exchanges and brokerages.
01:34 So very cool, very cool.
01:36 But it's January 18th, folks.
01:39 We appreciate all of you joining us.
01:40 That is Pete Najarian over there.
01:43 He is somewhere in Florida, I think, aren't you Pete?
01:46 - Yes, sir, just a little north of Naples.
01:48 Looking forward to the Naples Wine Festival in a week.
01:51 - Ooh, little different temperature there.
01:53 And Jared Venkman, just like Peter Venkman,
01:58 his half-brother, is actually a ghostbuster
02:03 and it's a good thing I can't hear him right now.
02:06 (laughing)
02:07 'Cause I'm sure he'd be complaining.
02:09 - He might've had an F-bomber too somewhere in there.
02:12 - Might have, might have, we'd have to cut it out.
02:15 But we thought we'd started off, folks,
02:17 with Todd Bowles, the head coach
02:19 of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
02:21 being asked perhaps the stupidest question
02:25 that I can imagine a pro football coach being asked.
02:29 So let's take a listen
02:31 and then Pete and I can comment a little bit.
02:33 - Coach, looking forward towards Detroit,
02:36 the weather has been a factor in some of the playoff games,
02:39 even for the most prepared teams.
02:41 - Weather.
02:42 (laughing)
02:44 Weather in Detroit.
02:45 It's cold up north, Josh, it's right.
02:49 It's only 13 in Detroit, Pete, come on.
02:52 No.
02:54 - You do know we play indoors, right?
02:59 They got a dome.
03:00 (laughing)
03:02 No, nothing planned.
03:06 We're indoors.
03:08 - We're indoors.
03:09 - We have to be outside for 20 seconds
03:11 getting off the bus, going into the thing, so.
03:13 - 20 seconds.
03:15 - Without being mean, he still gave her a nice shot.
03:20 - Oh yeah.
03:21 (laughing)
03:22 Well, you do know that we're indoors in Detroit.
03:27 - And to your point, Josh, what did you say?
03:29 How many years has it been that they've been in a dome?
03:33 - 50 years Detroit has been playing in a dome.
03:36 Silver dome, many of us remember Super Bowls
03:39 in the silver dome.
03:40 And it's been 50 years.
03:42 This is not the silver dome, of course, that thing's trash.
03:45 But Ford Field, I think they call it, Pete.
03:48 But yeah, just pretty much an asinine question.
03:54 It shows that she doesn't follow the sport at all.
03:57 I just checked, it's 13 degrees up there, coach.
04:01 What do the players think?
04:03 (laughing)
04:05 - That 20 seconds from the bus to the locker room,
04:10 I think they'll survive.
04:11 As a guy who played in Tampa myself
04:13 and had to go to there when it was the silver dome,
04:16 John, it was maybe 25, 30 seconds you had to walk outside.
04:19 So I don't know, we were in tank tops.
04:21 We didn't care, we tried to intimidate them.
04:23 (laughing)
04:24 - Right, I mean, and one of the reasons I wanted to play
04:28 that one, Pete, is that's about as stupid
04:31 as some of the commentary you hear on financial television
04:33 from time to time.
04:35 I'll leave it there and I'm not gonna single anybody out,
04:38 but I've heard questions that dumb asked of CEOs
04:43 and you're just kind of looking around going, what?
04:45 (laughing)
04:47 - Yeah.
04:48 - The best view wouldn't have been Todd Bowles.
04:50 The best view would have been every other sports writer
04:54 in that conference just looking around going, what?
04:58 (laughing)
05:01 - You're right, you are right.
05:03 - All right, let's start off with the macro minute, Pete.
05:06 What do you got for macro today?
05:08 - Well, these jobless claims, right?
05:10 I mean, this is something we're always looking for data.
05:12 Obviously, everything that we get data-wise
05:14 is also gonna be run by the Fed.
05:16 The Fed's gonna react to it.
05:17 187,000 versus the expected 208,000.
05:21 So significantly different.
05:23 There's a lot of things going on within the markets,
05:25 but we keep gathering this data.
05:26 And I think that there's a lot to digest
05:29 and a lot for the Fed to digest as they get closer
05:31 and closer to the next meetings and so forth.
05:34 But all that being said, as the markets go,
05:37 they continue to just kind of roll along, John.
05:40 And whether or not it's the NASDAQ side or the Dow side,
05:44 we are seeing some movement
05:45 and it was exactly one against the other.
05:48 But now the Dow is starting to kind of join up
05:50 with the NASDAQ.
05:51 So it could be a really interesting second half of the day.
05:55 - Yeah, and best jobless claims, like you say, Pete,
05:58 since September of 2022.
06:01 So quite a ways back, call it 18 months or more.
06:06 Pretty big number.
06:07 All right, let's do fantastic futures, Pete.
06:10 - Fantastic futures.
06:12 - There he was flying across the screen.
06:18 Actually, I guess he went like this.
06:20 But I'll throw it out quick, Pete,
06:24 'cause it's one you talk about all the time.
06:26 Fantastic futures.
06:28 Natural gas futures are down 3% again today.
06:32 And that makes it, they're down 16%
06:36 since the 11th of January.
06:38 It's the 18th today, folks.
06:41 So I think you guys can all do the math.
06:43 In other words, seven days difference and we're down 16%.
06:47 Ouch.
06:48 - You know, John, they always complain
06:51 about gas prices, right?
06:52 I mean, it is a big deal for everybody, we know that.
06:54 But you've got gas prices and when the price of oil moves,
06:57 gas prices move oftentimes at the pump.
07:00 So it's directly in front of our face.
07:02 What Starbucks doesn't want you to know
07:04 is the price of coffee has gone from 200
07:07 all the way down to about 176.
07:09 Now it bottomed out in October at about 146,
07:12 but we're down significantly
07:14 from just a month or so ago, John.
07:17 And I don't think Starbucks or any of these other
07:19 coffee shops are gonna drop that price, are you?
07:21 What do you think?
07:22 - No, they are not gonna drop the price, Pete.
07:25 I will bet on that, in fact.
07:27 - All right, let's dive into,
07:29 we always try to give you four stocks, folks,
07:31 that are in the news and/or moving.
07:33 Sometimes we have unusual activity in some of those.
07:37 Let me kick it off today, Pete, with MDC.
07:40 It's a home builder and a big Japanese company
07:43 is coming in to take them out.
07:45 And they're paying almost $5 billion all cash.
07:49 This is an all cash deal.
07:51 So everybody's gonna receive, I guess, $63 a share.
07:55 That's a pretty big premium, right, Pete?
07:57 - It's a monster premium, John,
07:59 and it's the highest level since December of 2004,
08:02 which when at that point in time, it was 68 bucks.
08:05 But this is a $63.
08:07 It jumped right there.
08:08 It seems to be holding there.
08:09 This looks like it's one of those
08:10 that might be one of the easiest deals ever, John.
08:13 It looks like it's gonna be, all right, shake hands.
08:16 We're done, $4.9 billion.
08:18 We'll take it.
08:19 You know, there is something to be said
08:20 about the housing market.
08:21 You and I bring this up all the time.
08:22 I don't think it's brought up enough,
08:24 quite frankly, in the news.
08:26 We're talking about financial news,
08:27 but we've brought it up a lot,
08:29 whether it's the ITB or any of the home builders.
08:31 They are in the sweet spot, and they remain in there
08:34 because of the constraints that are out there
08:36 and the supply and the shortage of supply
08:40 when you consider the demand.
08:42 And it's unbelievable.
08:43 Well, somebody's gonna profit on this,
08:45 and it's gonna look like the Japanese
08:47 are gonna make a very big bid,
08:50 but they're buying an interesting area
08:51 because when you look at this, John,
08:53 yes, it's West Coast.
08:54 Yeah, it's across the South.
08:56 You get into the East Coast,
08:57 but it's basically a group that's about a horseshoe
09:00 around the United States.
09:01 They wanna be in North America.
09:03 They're gonna be in North America pretty quick
09:05 with a $5 billion bid.
09:07 - Yeah, and you know, Pete,
09:09 when I was looking at some of our unusual,
09:12 we haven't had that for this one on this go-around, folks,
09:16 but when I was looking at it,
09:17 some of the unusual was way back in February of last year
09:22 when it was 39 bucks.
09:24 So not a bad return for people who stuck with this stock.
09:28 And I think we all know why.
09:29 Interest rates down, that stock should be up.
09:32 All right, let's talk about Hertz, Pete.
09:35 Your friend, Adam Jonas, comes out and basically changes
09:40 from equal weight to overweight for Hertz.
09:44 Now, just last week, Pete,
09:46 you and I were talking about,
09:47 God, they've got a lot of these Teslas stacked up.
09:50 They're gonna have to sell 20,000 of them
09:53 because they're just not renting.
09:55 So, because, you know, I think people see things like,
09:59 "Hey, in the wintertime,
10:00 I don't know if I wanna rent an electric vehicle
10:03 that gets really crummy distance because of the cold."
10:08 Maybe that's the reason, I'm not sure,
10:10 but all of a sudden, Hertz makes a big U-turn here, Pete.
10:13 - Yeah, big U-turn.
10:15 And Adam Jonas, actually, he's giving them credit, John,
10:17 for being decisive on how they made this decision.
10:20 Now, that being said,
10:21 I would just warn people to understand,
10:23 we always wanna break down the fundamentals, right?
10:26 Well, the fundamentals of Hertz,
10:27 which we did break down
10:28 when this stock was going south in a hurry,
10:31 they still have the same problems, John,
10:32 despite the fact that they're making the move with the EV,
10:35 and I think it is the right move,
10:36 but huge short interest in this name.
10:39 The debt is at absolutely preposterous levels,
10:42 and the cash burn is incredibly high.
10:45 So, if you're wanting to be in this name
10:47 because Adam Jonas is giving them kind of a move
10:50 to the upside in terms of where he was in positioning,
10:53 I can kind of get it,
10:55 but when I look at the fundamentals, John,
10:57 something else is much bigger than just this EV problem.
11:01 That's just one problem that they did address.
11:03 They haven't addressed a whole lot of other problems,
11:05 which is why they've got so much debt
11:08 and why the shorts are so big in this name.
11:10 - Yeah, remember last week, folks, when Pete said,
11:14 it's a $3 billion stock or something like that,
11:16 and yet they had 18 billion in debt.
11:19 Ouch.
11:20 And Pete, I'd also point out
11:23 that there's a lot of put buying in there today,
11:25 and we do have unusual activity on the put side.
11:28 Now, we didn't have it ahead of this little move
11:30 to the upside, but people aren't betting that it continues.
11:34 They're betting just the opposite,
11:35 that it goes right back from whence it came.
11:38 - Yeah. - All right.
11:39 What about Discover Financial, Pete?
11:42 They have funny commercials sometimes.
11:44 DFS, Discover Financial Services,
11:47 they're dropping pretty big
11:48 on what many of us would call mixed results.
11:52 And mixed results don't usually get you very much support
11:55 in the brokerage community.
11:57 So you can imagine that somebody might be changing
12:00 their idea about if this one's worth holding onto.
12:03 In other words, the opposite of what Adam Jonas just did
12:06 when he upgraded,
12:07 somebody might be downgrading Discover Financial.
12:10 - Well, and when you look at what their numbers
12:13 kind of look like, John, and you see that the profits
12:15 are down, what, 60%, that's pretty awful.
12:18 And then the operating expenses are up 18%.
12:22 That's also pretty awful.
12:25 There's a lot of reasons right now to take a look at DFS
12:28 and say, you know what, I'm hands off.
12:29 I'm not gonna jump into this thing.
12:30 This is something that certainly doesn't feel very good,
12:34 and it looks a little bit like some quicksand.
12:36 So for now, I think this is one of those,
12:38 no touch, back away.
12:40 It's down 7% on the day or wherever it is right now.
12:43 I would still say, you know what,
12:45 they're gonna have to prove it to me,
12:47 and they've got to prove it to me
12:48 over the next couple of quarters,
12:50 because right now, this is a stock that looks like
12:52 it really could circle the drain for a little while longer,
12:55 and I don't think there's any reason
12:57 to put good money after this thing.
12:59 - It's traded so far today, 5 million shares, Pete,
13:04 average is two.
13:06 I'd say there's a lot of people
13:07 hitting the exits with both hands.
13:09 All right, let's talk about Humana.
13:12 Humana shares down hard early on, Pete,
13:16 because the health insurer revised
13:18 their annual profit outlook.
13:20 And just as Pete and I always say, folks,
13:24 it matters what you've done in the past,
13:26 but what you're doing in the future, for many of us,
13:30 is even more important because the past is behind us now.
13:33 Now, we all hear about earnings and so forth,
13:36 but this is about the outlook going forward,
13:39 and that's what really has spooked a lot of investors
13:42 to a double-digit loss for Humana, Pete.
13:45 - Yeah, when you look at the outlook, that's awful.
13:48 There's a good reason why this stock
13:50 is actually sitting at 52-week lows right now.
13:53 And as a matter of fact,
13:54 you could have had a little bit of a read-through
13:56 if you looked at UNH and what they talked about
13:58 during their earnings call not too terribly long ago,
14:01 and why that stock was getting beat up.
14:03 Not to the extent of what we're seeing here,
14:05 but when you're talking about the medical costs,
14:07 and both groups talked about medical costs going higher.
14:11 And UNH, despite the fact that everything else
14:14 looked very good in terms of their earnings,
14:17 it was that area that actually got people's attention.
14:19 They sold the stock.
14:21 Not the same way they're selling this one, though.
14:23 This is getting hammered pretty good.
14:24 I don't know, John, for whatever reason,
14:26 I think if you were looking,
14:27 you wanted to be in this healthcare area,
14:30 I think I would definitely be in UNH,
14:31 not just 'cause they're in Minnetonka, Minnesota,
14:34 but because I think that they've got
14:35 a lot more positive things going on for them right now.
14:38 And I look over at Humana,
14:40 it seems like there's a good reason
14:41 why it's at 52-week lows today.
14:43 - Yeah, and Pete, earnings are February 5th.
14:48 So this is warning as they go into their quiet period.
14:51 So how bad would it be if they dumped this on you
14:55 on the earnings report as well?
14:57 Because my suspicion is, Pete,
15:00 they don't have a great report coming anyway,
15:03 but they wanted to get out in front of it with this thing,
15:05 and we'll see how that plays out for them.
15:09 But ouch, that's a pretty big drop.
15:11 By the way, million four is the average.
15:14 They've also traded 5 million shares so far today.
15:18 So there's a lot of people hitting the exits here
15:20 as well, Pete.
15:21 - Yeah. - All right.
15:22 Give me your sports, Pete.
15:24 What are we gonna be talking about going into next week?
15:28 Because of course, this is the last Rebels Edge of the week.
15:31 - Yeah, well, you know, John,
15:33 I think it's really important to point out
15:35 who are some of the great coaches
15:38 and folks that are in the NFL
15:40 when we look across the NFL
15:42 and we try to figure out these GMs and coaches,
15:44 who's really doing a great job, who's not, right?
15:47 And what I mean by that is,
15:48 you know how everybody was talking about
15:50 these running backs shouldn't get paid X, Y, and Z.
15:53 It's foolish, you're throwing good money after bad,
15:56 and it's just the craziest thing in the world.
15:58 Well, what if I read off to you, John, the playoff teams,
16:01 McCaffrey, San Francisco, Williams, the Rams,
16:04 James Cook, Buffalo, DeAndre Swift,
16:07 Najee Harris, Mostert, Pollard, Montgomery, and Gibbs,
16:10 and then you got Pacheco.
16:11 So those are the running backs that are on the teams,
16:14 and the leading running backs in the entire NFL
16:18 are on those teams,
16:19 and those are the teams that made it into the playoffs.
16:21 Some of them are already out,
16:22 but that gives you a little bit of an idea.
16:24 But where I'm going with this is this,
16:26 John Harbaugh and Jim Harbaugh are pretty amazing guys.
16:30 What they've accomplished, we talked about Jim Harbaugh
16:32 the other day, would he take the Chargers job?
16:34 He interviewed with Atlanta.
16:36 I think if he's gonna go anywhere,
16:37 he's going to the Chargers.
16:39 I think he goes to LA, he's got a great quarterback,
16:42 great running back, and some age on defense,
16:45 and he can change that in a hurry, I think.
16:47 But his brother, John, these guys are basically
16:50 the favorite, right, in the AFC to go to the Super Bowl.
16:53 And we thought we were seeing a Super Bowl game prelude
16:57 not too long ago when San Francisco was playing
16:59 against Baltimore, Baltimore ended up getting
17:01 the better side of that one.
17:03 But John Harbaugh, you know what he did today?
17:05 He decided to go out on the market and sign Dalvin Cook,
17:10 one of the best running backs in football,
17:12 and a good reason why the Minnesota Vikings
17:14 couldn't run the ball this year,
17:16 'cause they didn't want to keep the guy.
17:17 For some reason, they didn't want to pay him at all.
17:20 They basically just let him go,
17:21 and they paid three other running backs
17:23 about the equivalent of what he would have gotten,
17:25 which is ridiculous because the guy is amazing,
17:29 one of the better players in the game.
17:31 He's only 28 years old, but they already think he's too old.
17:34 It's absolutely crazy, John, but John Harbaugh goes out.
17:38 Does he need to change anything about the roster?
17:40 Probably not, but he decided, you know what?
17:42 Dalvin Cook is available, I'm gonna sign him.
17:44 He's already on the 53-man roster.
17:47 He will be playing in the playoff game against Houston.
17:50 I think that just tells you a little something
17:53 about coaching and how good the Harbaugh brothers really are,
17:56 but John Harbaugh here.
17:58 - Yeah, and Pete.
17:59 His brother, Jim, sounds like
18:02 that he would be willing to stay in Michigan,
18:07 but one of the things he wants in that contract
18:11 is that if he gets suspended, they can't fire him.
18:13 If he gets suspended, because, you know,
18:17 that's kind of a little preview
18:18 of how deep he might be in, Pete,
18:21 with stallions and all the other, you know,
18:24 some of the accusations, I'll call them,
18:27 but we suspect they'll be able to prove some of this, Pete.
18:30 - Yeah, it's interesting.
18:32 You know, they wanna hold him, John.
18:33 They want him bad.
18:34 They want Jim Harbaugh to be the Michigan coach, for sure,
18:38 but I think that the reality is,
18:40 he's probably 50/50 right now, looking at the NFL.
18:43 He's done some interviews.
18:44 I don't think that's because he's trying to game Michigan.
18:47 I think he's trying to make the decision,
18:49 do I stay here under this NCAA scrutiny
18:52 and everything else over some ridiculous stuff,
18:55 or do I go to the NFL and just get back into the pros
18:58 and maybe I get to meet my brother again in the Super Bowl
19:01 at some point in time?
19:02 So I like what Jim's doing,
19:05 and I think he's doing a lot of things right,
19:07 just like I think John Harbaugh's doing
19:08 a lot of things right.
19:09 All right, John, the NFL, we know, stands for not for long,
19:13 but somebody got extended, or at least he got the,
19:17 he was able to get through his contract
19:19 because Mike McCarthy's gonna stay with the Dallas Cowboys.
19:23 Now, here's the thing.
19:24 Jerry Jones came out and he said,
19:25 "Look, in four years, this is what this guy has done.
19:28 "He's got a five-year contract.
19:29 "We're gonna stick with Mike McCarthy."
19:31 And I can't blame him, John, because this is the deal.
19:34 When you look at what they did,
19:36 why did they lose that game this past week
19:38 to the Green Bay Packers?
19:40 They couldn't stop the run.
19:41 The defense didn't adjust at all, John.
19:44 What was happening was the Green Bay Packers
19:46 went basically with a lot of jumbo packages
19:49 and started running the ball
19:50 and had a lot of success running the ball
19:52 and short passing game as well.
19:54 So between all of that, that's really what broke them down.
19:58 They had a couple of turnovers,
20:00 Dak Prescott, a couple of interceptions,
20:02 and one of them for a touchdown.
20:04 Because of all of that,
20:05 it makes this whole thing very, very interesting to me
20:08 because I think what they were looking at is,
20:10 hey, what are we gonna do
20:12 on the defensive side of the ball?
20:13 We had one of the best defenses in all of the NFL
20:16 and it collapsed and they never adjusted, John,
20:19 to the jumbo-size offense that they were going up against.
20:22 They kept extra safeties and corners on the field
20:26 rather than bringing the big guys back out there
20:28 to defend against what they were doing.
20:30 So I think Dan Quinn's days are numbered,
20:33 but here's the crazy thing.
20:34 They're only numbered because other guys in the NFL
20:37 wanna interview Dan Quinn, the defensive coordinator,
20:40 for a head coaching job.
20:42 It shows you about the NFL
20:43 and how some of it is just unbelievably stupid.
20:47 But what do you think about this whole thing?
20:49 Because I think McCarthy, offensively,
20:52 they put up 500 plus yards on the Green Bay Packers.
20:55 That's just reality.
20:56 That's what they did.
20:58 So what are you gonna do here?
21:00 And it might be a gift if somebody comes
21:03 and plucks Dan Quinn and puts him into a head coaching job
21:06 and McCarthy can figure out somebody else.
21:09 - Yeah, and I bet that happens, Pete.
21:11 My money would be on that.
21:13 Because you're right.
21:15 If you put up 500 yards on a team, you should win.
21:18 There's just no two ways about it.
21:20 And McCarthy has a great relationship with Dak Prescott.
21:24 We both know that.
21:25 Dak really, you know, they became,
21:28 I don't know about father and son,
21:30 but they definitely are on the same page
21:33 with how that offense runs.
21:35 And you've got, you know,
21:36 Lamb and all these weapons on offense, Pete.
21:40 So it's understandable that McCarthy has been able
21:44 to really put up some impressive wins
21:47 because of that offense.
21:48 But you gotta be able to stop somebody.
21:50 I mean, San Francisco put a route on these guys too.
21:54 So, you know, it's not just Green Bay putting up 48.
21:58 San Francisco was right there
21:59 putting up big numbers on them too.
22:01 They either got to change a philosophy or change a coach.
22:05 'Cause I think the players on defense are good enough
22:07 if you put them in the right spots.
22:09 - Yeah.
22:10 I think that happens a lot, John.
22:11 I think a lot of these coaches have arrogance,
22:13 whether it's on the offensive or the defensive side,
22:15 it's their way or the highway.
22:17 And oftentimes you've gotta coach
22:19 the players that you've got.
22:20 You can't make players do something
22:22 that that's not their comfort zone.
22:23 And we see it all the time.
22:25 When you draft a quarterback like RG3, for instance,
22:27 and you try to turn them into a back, you know,
22:29 a quarterback who's gonna stand there like a statue
22:31 and try to throw the ball.
22:33 Why did you draft them in the first place?
22:34 You've gotta use the players to their best ability
22:37 of what they are.
22:38 And if you're not doing that, you're gonna have problems.
22:40 It's why Dallas just gets knocked out each and every year
22:44 going into these playoffs,
22:45 whether it's divisional or whatever,
22:47 they just haven't been able to get to the next level.
22:49 I think McCarthy's record is one in three
22:52 in the playoffs so far.
22:54 - Yeah, that won't cut it.
22:55 So if they don't get further into this next year, Pete,
22:59 then I think he's gone.
23:01 And I think Jerry probably realizes the relationship
23:05 that he has with Dak is really good
23:07 and he'd have to pay him to not be there for a year.
23:10 So he probably just gonna force him to get a D coordinator.
23:13 Folks, thanks for joining us.
23:17 It's gonna be a great playoff weekend again.
23:20 So Pete will have all of his special notes.
23:24 He has that show, of course, every Sunday
23:26 on Odyssey Network, WCCO AM 830 up in Minneapolis.
23:31 So make sure you check out the Odyssey app
23:34 so you can listen to him from 10 until noon on Sundays.
23:38 And Pete and I will be back at 1 p.m. Eastern time on Monday.
23:42 Have a great one, everybody.
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