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00:00 All right, man, today is Wednesday, it's August 9. Welcome to the dog walk presented
00:03 by Barstool Sports for you soon Wednesday. Obvious characters chief Danny here. You're
00:08 also joined by spider because Danny joined spider at the NASCAR event in Detroit, which
00:13 I'm sure we're going to talk about today. So welcome spider. Thank you guys pumped to
00:16 be here to truth and a lie. I'm just kidding. I always hated that game. Dude, I had someone
00:23 try to play that with me at like a like a social gathering recently at a social gathering.
00:28 I would have left immediately. And I was like, I can't, I can't be doing that was always
00:32 like, like the worst part of like the first day of school orientation. Yeah, the icebreakers.
00:38 That's the worst icebreaker of them all. I think to truth and a lie. I think fun fact
00:44 about yourself is up there as well. You think so? What about what state do you identify
00:48 with the most? I was asked that recently to that one. Yeah, would you? I don't I think
00:55 I was like, I don't know. Oh shit. Spiders from there. I forgot. I could, I could have
01:03 it. Who does? I mean, listen, I was born there though. The same. And I think it's a lot of,
01:08 it's probably justified. It's kind of like a state looking for its own identity. You
01:13 know, half the people pretend to be from New York. Half the people are Boston. They all
01:18 got Lyme disease. My brother does. Yeah. My mom got it there. Oh, wow. Has it too? Yeah.
01:25 He got it really bad when he was a kid. I don't know if you just like, I don't actually
01:29 know what happens. I think you just kind of like get over it or you grow to live with
01:33 it or something. I think it's different. We, we actually did a podcast with my mom about
01:36 this in 2019. Yeah. What is Connecticut? Just the most taken festive state there is. Well,
01:43 it's Lyme, Connecticut. That's what Lyme disease is named after. So they had a, they had a
01:50 allegedly had a military bio weapons thing there on an Island. Those ticks got out and
01:55 they're like, is that real? Yeah. Fuck. I didn't know that my town growing up had the
01:59 highest black population in the state because anytime there was a problematic, like bear,
02:06 they would tranquilize it. I can't, I can't really pronounce that word. So bear with me.
02:10 They would incapacitate it and then they would relocate it to this state forest that was
02:15 pretty much in my backyard. So shit, you and Trey would go. Yeah. I've had quite a bit
02:20 of a, no, Trey lives in a little bit more affluent area. Avon or something. Yeah. I'm
02:24 not an Avon guy. Okay. Hey, you're a farmer. You're a kind of guy. I feel like you would
02:29 live against a bear. What do you mean? I'm not saying he's a bear's ass, but like I could
02:34 definitely see you in a hospital photo, like all roughed up, but like, but he's alive.
02:37 All right. Well, what are you going to do? Look at him. If you get attacked by a bear,
02:41 you got to fight back. What are you just going to roll over? We had a, it's black fight back.
02:46 Right. So you got to like get big and like start yelling. Black bears are pretty docile
02:50 from what I, we, uh, when I, when I was at prep school, our, my prep school was like
02:55 on the border of Connecticut and Massachusetts and we would have bear days. So like that
02:59 consistent. Well, if like a bear, like ran across campus, they'd shut the, shut the school.
03:04 So instead of a snow day, you just had a bear day. So if that was like, I like, I think
03:08 I got out of a test in the spring. That's sick. Cause a mom and her cubs like ran through
03:13 campus. It's like, Ooh, I was talking to someone recently who used to have a farm and I'm sure
03:18 plenty of people know this, but I was struck by it that they have deer day, which is like
03:23 the first day of deer hunting season. And they're like, they're like, don't expect like
03:27 the kids to go to school because the parents are too busy hunting to drive them. It's like
03:30 a snow day every year. That's pretty easy. We definitely drove through a couple. It's
03:33 like senior skip day. Yeah. But the parents are on board with it. I've told that story
03:37 about North Dakota, right? Uh, when I worked for, uh, the Southern Illinois filming team,
03:42 we played, uh, at the Fargo dome, which is like a legendary place. That's where, you
03:47 know, North Dakota state, this where Trey Lance and fucking Carson Wentz went and they're
03:50 like unbelievable. And that was like in their heyday. And, um, it was always this like mythical
03:56 thing like the Fargo dome as well. The Fargo dome as well. We went and it was not a sellout.
04:01 It was not, um, you know, full and we're like, what's going on. And I was like, well, there's
04:05 like 550,000 people in like the state of North Dakota and uh, like 300 something thousand
04:12 Heather hunting license. And it was the opening day of hunting season. So yeah, yeah.
04:16 I, I knew a guy from Wisconsin from my old job. I can't remember if it was North or South
04:22 Dakota, but they had a, they would go up to one of those States and they had like groundhog
04:27 hunting or like Prairie dog, Prairie dog. And there's like no limit. And they would
04:32 just smoke like hundreds of Prairie dogs, hundreds of them.
04:37 Yo, it's kind of fucked up that they can't take care of this boar thing in Texas. Like,
04:41 why don't all the hunters like form a coalition and have like a fucking weekend and like really
04:47 get after these fucking, they call it the troops. Yeah. Like this needs to be like a
04:51 team effort. You know, it can't just be Sydney. It has to be Sydney and White Sox. Can't be
04:57 waiting for cons and White Sox days to take care of this. What's the craziest wildlife
05:02 you guys have seen while living in this part of the country? Alligator in Humboldt park.
05:05 Yeah. Yeah. Is that real? Yeah. It was 20 summer of 19. Yeah. I just kind of dropped
05:11 an alligator in there. I was going to say that had to be, yeah, spider. The town shut
05:15 like it didn't shut down. Like it took over headlines. It was like Godzilla came in and
05:20 like the thing was a size of a 55 inch TV. Like it was a baby. Yeah. We've had coyotes
05:26 running around here. Yeah. Coyotes probably the height of it in the city. Yeah. You'll
05:31 see those fuckers. Oh yeah. Yeah. They're like vicious too. Yeah. That was a thing I
05:36 think in 19 or 20 where the coyotes were like a bite not people. Yeah. Dave and I were hunting
05:41 them in the city, but yeah, they were stealing people's dogs. I think a child got bit. Yeah.
05:48 I think there's a couple, no black bears here. I parked my car out and back over last night
05:54 cause the rental place was closed. Yeah. When I got in it this morning, there was like animal
06:00 hair all over it. Like on the windshield, it looks like there was like fur. Really?
06:04 Yeah. We got a raccoon problem around here. Probably. Maybe we do have some raccoons,
06:10 but that's an, that's, you know, spider. That's an advantage of being, being in the Midwest.
06:15 We don't got it. We don't got hurricanes. We don't got that kind of shit. We don't got
06:18 Gators. You got tornadoes and shit though. I've been at fucking two months. The shit's
06:22 blaring like crazy. I watched a twister on TV over the weekend. That's that. Yeah. A
06:27 movie's always on, on TV. It's, it was on AMC. It was fucking great. It was my first,
06:31 I think PG 13 movie might've been twister. It's, it's weird to joke about cause like
06:35 obviously you're happy to know tornadoes, but I've never once felt threatened by the
06:39 tornado even in, even when the sirens are going in the city, it just never coming in
06:42 the city. That's pretty ominous dude. That doesn't happen in New York. That, but that
06:46 one has sirens. Any, any sort of siren. No joke. Sirens from like police sirens. I've
06:51 said they should always use the tornado sirens for more things than just tornado. That was
06:54 the first time in my life where I felt, okay, maybe something might happen. Well, the one
06:59 touchdown two miles North of my sister. Well, yeah, did it touch down or was it like a funnel?
07:03 I don't know if there was, there was serious damage around O'Hare. Yeah. Supposedly a touchdown.
07:11 Give me a break. I train. I was not just going through the West loop. I can't believe it.
07:15 There used to be that show on the history channel that would knock on woods. Do all
07:18 like the doomsday shit. Um, and they did one like what if a tornado hit Chicago and I'm
07:24 like an F five tornado and it was like, Oh, I'm pretty fucking bad. Like it is possible.
07:30 I know. Obviously it's possible. I just can't ever imagine it. Turn it out, took out bandit.
07:35 I'll be talking about going down Clark street. Devastating. Smacky Jables would be fucking
07:43 on his knees crying. Uh, he'd be opening up that fucking go find me to rebuild that. That's
07:49 a good, a why? What should they use these sirens for? Just like anytime the bear score
07:54 touchdown like shopping sales, good things, holidays, shopping sales. It gets the whole,
08:00 the whole town is alert. Once you hear those sirens, I feel like there's not a store that
08:03 it matches with though. They used to test them like the first Tuesday of every month
08:06 out by me too. They do that in the city. I feel like I don't hear him. No, but like,
08:11 like in like Edison park they would like, yeah. Close to like a park district type thing.
08:15 I don't know. I feel like, I feel like Sears would have done well with that. You know what
08:20 I mean? Yeah, like that kind of RIP Sears dude. Sears officially done though. There's
08:27 no, there's no Sears in Illinois. Damn. Still the Sears tower though. Right boys? Sure is.
08:32 He's learning in our mind. Yeah. In our mind. Yeah. Speaking of that, I, I tweeted away
08:36 tax Dave and I'm sure we'll get to it at the mid show. We're recording this before Tuesday's
08:40 mid show, but uh, it was in Vegas this past weekend and it's just a shame they changed
08:45 the name to the Hooters hotel. But it'll still always be the Hooters hotel. What is it now?
08:50 It's called OYO. Oh, I O. How was the Vegas trip? Did you, would you go there for just,
08:57 uh, so I went there with a bunch of families, like 13 of us and it was basically the youngest
09:02 cousin turned 21. So it's kind of like a last hurrah of sorts, you know, his first hurrah
09:07 is the family's last hurrah. Yes, yes, yes. Her. Um, but uh, yes, correct. That's what
09:12 it was. Uh, I, I got there like I checked in at like 11 PM on Thursday. So really I
09:17 was only there for like two nights. So it was very quick trip. That's a short time in
09:20 Vegas. It's like, what is the right amount of time? I would have liked one more third
09:25 day. Yeah, I would have liked one more full day. That's it. It was too short. What's a
09:29 family Vegas trip looking like? You know, it was, um, well everyone's 21. Yeah. So it
09:36 was everyone's 21 year, right? Hitting up the wet Republic with the cousins. Uh, so
09:40 they Friday night there was a big plan. They wanted to go to Maroon five and there's like
09:44 one cousin who I'm probably, you know, closest with and we're both like, yeah, we're good.
09:48 We're just going to go gamble. You know, we're like, no, fine. So we're at dinner before
09:52 we're at some Italian place in park MGM and we're like, Hey, what do you, you know, what,
09:57 what, what do you want to do with this and that? And my uncle just turns to us. He's
10:00 like, I just bought your ticket. You guys are going real fun. Like no, like dead serious.
10:05 Like no, just like, like he's strong arm. Like it was a legit strong arm. We had no
10:10 choice. Uncle couldn't do that. So we're like, all right, I guess we're, I guess, I guess
10:13 we're going to go. Can I be honest? Always. It was pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good.
10:19 And I'm not someone who is going to like a Maroon five hater, you know, but it's just
10:24 what I got them living. Yeah. I don't necessarily love him either, but I don't want to like
10:29 they are, are they kind of getting nickel backed a little bit? I feel like ever since
10:34 I'm Adam Levine got popped for sending some crazy DMs, the narrative has just been making
10:40 light of Maroon five. He also like, I kind of feel like if you're, I do judge the people
10:45 who end up being judges on the singing show. So he was on, what was the, the, he's on the
10:50 voice, the spinny chair one. He's not on it no more, but he was an originator and he was
10:54 on for nine seasons. Yeah. So like show some respect. Like Blake Shelton, that kind of
10:58 feel like they're all like, they're all kind of the same guy. It's like old candy ass.
11:03 Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely candy ass for sure. Yeah. But like you probably knew 90%
11:07 of the songs. That is what I was going to say. Like I said, I was like, I'll know, I'll
11:11 know a good amount of songs. I knew every song except for two. Really? Yeah. Just that
11:15 many hits and radio plays. They really do. And I'm like, I know you're gonna be like,
11:19 well, that's, is that, is it an indictment on me or is it? I think it's them. They just
11:23 have so many songs on the radio. I saw them at Wrigley last year. I knew every song except
11:28 for one. Yeah. It was, it was jarring. I'm going to credit to them for playing. That
11:32 seems like a band that I'm familiar with obviously, but if you asked me to like rattle off, rattle
11:37 off their songs, I wouldn't be able to do it. But then I feel like I would agree with
11:40 you guys. If you go to the show, it's just like, Oh shit. Yeah. Sunday morning rain is
11:45 falling. Like see if I rattle off a bunch, you'd know too. Yeah. Like they opened up
11:49 with animals. Like, you know, that's not saying it just like animals, animals, balls, moles.
11:54 Whoa. I don't think he sings it like that. I say that. Yeah. And uh,
12:02 that's sugar. They ended with sugar pay phone. Uh, did they do an encore? Him and the, him
12:08 and him and the cousins are swaying. What do you call it? I sent an extra on cause by
12:13 one cause it was so drunk and he slept the whole concert. I'm not kidding. The one that
12:17 bought the tickets? No one that got strong armed with me. Oh, okay. I mean this guy,
12:21 I took a picture of him. He was just head down at what point at one point, not even
12:26 the usher straight up security like came to our seat and was like, is he going to fall
12:30 over? Cause he was like, his head was down and he was like, he was just looking at the
12:34 ground, you know, sleeping and uh, he would like come to once in a while and he'd like
12:38 wave his hands and then he would go back down and like the fetal position in this chair
12:43 and the security guard comes with like, ah, fuck, this guy's going to get kicked out.
12:47 Like, is there like, is he going to fall on his face? I was like, I don't think so, but
12:51 I don't know for sure. You know, she's like, should I get him a barf bag? And I'm like,
12:57 no, I don't think he won't. I don't think I'll barf. So what about a water? I was like,
13:00 that sounds good. Then after I'm like, yo, like they were like, ask if you're a barf
13:03 bag. He was so offended. He's like a barf bag. I've never puked. Like you were just
13:08 so mad. That's pretty considerate security. Like if they're asking the question, is this
13:15 guy going to puke? In most places he's already gone. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah. That's
13:20 a very good point. Are they, uh, I don't know. I can't think of the word, but as Maroon five
13:26 like stationed in Vegas, like, yes, they're doing a residency residency. That was the
13:30 word I was looking for. All right. And the venue was sweet. They had like a Dolby live
13:34 theater. Is it at the orb? The park MGM. So I was like connected to it. It's, it's a weird
13:39 thing having to go to a concert just to go elevator down and it's like right there and
13:43 then you leave and then you just go back up. That's crazy. That is weird. Weird thing,
13:47 but a sweet thing. Awesome thing. The worst part of concerts is like the logistics getting
13:52 in and out. Yeah. Right. Oh, I don't know if I'll ever go to a concert. I don't think so
13:58 either. I will have to fucking want to love the band and like whatever. Yeah. It had to
14:03 be Maroon five Friday. I'll have to know every song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Soldier field. Absolutely.
14:11 It's brutal. What was the, uh, how was the orb? Let's be inspired. Did you see it at
14:16 all? Oh, the fucking sphere. Yeah. Awesome. What was on it? Uh, it was the moon.
14:21 That's the whole time. So sweet. When I passed by, I was at the other side of the strip and
14:26 that sound like the wind side. But when I passed by, it was, it was the moon. They should
14:31 just make it like a chive TV. I wonder how much some of those restaurants pay for chive
14:38 TV. Like what's Buffalo wildling shell in a tribe. So talk about like distribution.
14:44 Like they're probably like, wait, you're going to pay us what for this. So we went to a,
14:50 uh, a spider and I were in Michigan this weekend and I'm sure plenty of the rest of the country
14:54 knows this, but you heard of that Kino? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was our first time ever experiencing
14:59 it. And they have that everywhere. I want to say they had it inside the race track.
15:04 Yeah. Like every, they did on like a jumbo truck. The, um, it's like, it's like a gambling
15:10 game where you, there's 80 numbers, you pick X amount to win X amount. And it's just always
15:14 on in the background. Like while you're eating, it's like a scantron sheet and you fill it
15:18 out. You can pick like X amount of numbers and you can pick how much you want to bet.
15:23 And then they all flash up on screen. There's a big board. They pick 20 numbers. You should
15:26 get that on a parcel sports book. Yeah. That's what a car Chris walled one at the end of
15:31 Vegas vacation. The guy who really had a heart attack one. Remember that scene vaguely? Yeah.
15:39 All right. I don't have bad reference. I guess. Yeah. I don't movie information. Um, but yeah,
15:45 no, I know, you know for sure why you guys were at B dubs. We were at B dubs. We were
15:49 actually, we stayed in Adrian, Michigan, which is basically a one giant parking lot. I would
15:55 consider it. Um, everywhere in Michigan. Yeah. It's, it's out in the boonies. Um, sounds
16:01 like a good four hours from here. And we stayed in this hotel and it was basically like a
16:06 dead mall was attached in the parking lot and the mall was fucking massive. Awesome.
16:11 We walked to Buffalo wild wings, which was just, uh, in the same parking lot. But it
16:16 honestly took us like 15 minutes each way to get there in one parking lot. This guy
16:21 is, this place is like halfway between Detroit and Toledo. Yeah. Damn. Is that where they
16:27 had the gathering of juggalos? Maybe I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. We saw like kids were
16:33 partying in the parking lot, like tailgating, uh, both nights. And we were like, are these
16:38 the cool kids or the nerds, you know, just pulled up in a pickup truck, started drinking
16:42 in the parking lot. Yeah. Blasting some EDM. It's a good point. So it was just all, it
16:46 was just a concrete. Yeah, it was pretty, pretty depressing to be honest. Not a knock
16:51 on a, the area. I mean, it seems like it was definitely a good time. We had a lot of fun.
16:56 Um, there's, there's places across the street from us. One was China buffet and the other
17:00 was Asian buffet. I love it. I love, I love whoever was second. I was like, damn it. Asian
17:08 was definitely, we got Thai food. We had Thai food. Asian had to be, I'm with you. Yeah.
17:13 No doubt. Much more broad. Yeah, exactly. But spider went from eating at B-dubs and
17:17 Adrian Michigan to just being the grand Marshall, the Cabo Wabo two 50. Yeah, it was sick. What
17:22 do they give you for that? Do you get like a medal or anything? Uh, no, I did steal a
17:25 Cabo Wabo helmet. So shout out them. I stole that from the suite. Really. It was just the
17:30 experience I think was the coolest part. Um, I wish I got a trophy, like I won the race,
17:34 but I pretty much felt like I did. They let large and I go on stage. We did driver intros
17:39 for the Xfinity race. We introduced like 30 drivers. Um, and then shortly thereafter we
17:45 got on the mic and we're like drivers start your engines. And uh, large like lagged. Like
17:54 I said, I was the only one who said drivers large was given spider shit. Cause he claimed
17:58 that spider started a little too early. It did. He actually say that. Fuck them. I was
18:04 ready to roll. He was just like lagging. I remember, I remember after in the suite he
18:08 was like, he could have waited for me or he was joking around, but yeah, listen, racing
18:12 NASCAR, I'm not waiting for anyone. I just fucking go, go, go. So that's what the grand
18:16 Marshall does. You say driver start your, and then, um, so sick. That is, it was either
18:21 that I couldn't believe it when I saw the video. I really couldn't. I haven't seen it
18:24 yet. I couldn't, they allowed us to do it. Like again, shout out Cabo Wabo. I don't know
18:29 why they invited us, but we're happy to be ambassadors for them. And then they waved
18:34 the green flag and then the race started and uh, we just went up to the suite and watched.
18:39 I mean, these guys were the center of attention and that whole place at least like two, three
18:43 different times. It was sweet. Yeah. Just standing in the middle of the field. It's
18:47 like, just all your engines getting, actually after we said that they put us in, um, the
18:51 pace car, which is like a Chevy Camaro. They had like three of them. We did like a couple
18:57 laps around the track, but largest ass was so big to get in there. They had to pop the
19:01 top and we went convertible mode around the track. Like usually the roofs are on there.
19:05 I'm holding onto my hat like this. Like wait, no, no. Was it like, um, when, when they don't
19:12 like the green flag is indicator to go, right? Yeah. Yes. But now the engines are already
19:16 started, right? This is just kind of a tradition. No, honestly. You're telling me everyone fucking
19:21 cocks it when you say that. Yeah. They flip the switch and fire it up. Oh, and then you
19:26 hear all the, like in the background, the, it is sick. It was really cool. You know what
19:31 I mean? No, I just figured like, it was just a, yeah. Well, cause it doesn't, the actual
19:34 race doesn't start for a little longer till after you say it. They probably do like five
19:38 minutes of just other pre-race festivities, whether it be like warming the cars up, getting
19:42 them on the track, getting everyone in order, shit like that. But yeah, we've done a lot
19:47 of cool NASCAR shit, but the last two weeks I feel like I, someone's looking out for me.
19:51 Like I'm blessed. I got to thank my lucky stars. We got the Dale jr ride along and then
19:56 the grand Marshall experience at Michigan. So really cool. Good stuff. Spider. There's
20:01 pretty, I don't know if any clips surface of this, but spider in large were interviewing,
20:06 um, what was his name? Justin, Justin Allgaier, Justin Allgaier, number seven car and they
20:11 were on stage and there was like this canopy that was over them. It was like a shade, like
20:15 supposed to give, provide some shade on the stage. And I, and like I, I'm there, I have
20:19 to get like a assault social clips for it. Whatever have to be approved and all that.
20:25 And I knew it was going to be a problem at one point. This, this shade is just bouncing
20:29 off of largest head while he's trying to give like these serious interviews. Eventually
20:33 he called it out. Justin Allgaier is like my size. So like, there's like largest taking
20:37 all the hit from it. It was incredible. It was just a shade tree. That's so fucking fun.
20:44 He said, he's just a tent pole. He said, you've got to respect large. I mean, he tried his
20:48 best to get in the car with Dale jr. He had them re take off the roofs for the pace car
20:53 and now he's just getting smoked by like the shade awning on stage. People think it's a
20:58 piece of cake to be tall. How tall is he? Six, eight. He's tall dude. Six, eight tall.
21:04 I think he's pretty fucking tall. He's a big, he's two, he's two white Sox Dave. And also
21:07 the other thing is a lot of the drivers, the drivers are like my size, like very small.
21:14 Oh yeah. That's, they got to be strong as fuck though. Right. Pretty. Yeah. A lot of
21:20 them are really good shape. And honestly, I think a lot of it is just, um, conditioning
21:25 because like the last two weeks it's been hot as fuck. It's been like 90 degrees and
21:29 then add on like 20, 30 degrees more if you're sitting in the car in a fire suit. So for
21:34 sure. You know, you talk about, um, Adrian, Michigan, but that's like kind of what it
21:40 has to be. You can't build these tracks like in the middle of cities. Oh, I'm with you.
21:44 You know, it's all the, every student and they did like a month ago. Yeah. But for a
21:48 specialty race, that's not a real track. It was a street race. Like Talladega is just
21:52 in a farm field. Yeah. And when we went to the Miami race, it's not in Miami. It's like
21:58 fucking 40 minutes away. You can have, it just has to be that way. So this was for like
22:02 the Detroit Ann Arbor people. Yeah. Um, so you know what though? I thought about this
22:09 too after that concert, I would like to officially add a kid rock concert in Michigan to my bucket
22:15 list. I want to do that. That would be cool. I hear he's awesome. Surprise guest Eminem.
22:20 I mean, could you imagine that would be a concert of a lifetime or just a cop? Imagine
22:25 a concert in every city where like every musician is from. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That'd be
22:30 awesome. Who do you think the best Chicago artist is? I mean, I've, the old answer was
22:34 Kanye. Wow. Yeah. But uh, I don't know if that's acceptable anymore. Or I don't even
22:39 know if it is the real answer anymore. Cause he's so crazy. Who else could it be? Uh,
22:44 there's gotta be like, well, I mean, you could, you do like the burbs. Yeah. Follow
22:49 boy or like, I don't know. What about Lincoln park? Are they from Lincoln park? No, Lincoln
22:55 park with a K bro. Yeah. But maybe they just mixed it up. You know what I'm saying? I don't
23:01 know. That's a good question. Who would you guys say? It is probably fall out boy. I'm
23:07 saying little Dirk bro. Yeah. That's the thing. Answer is like a little dirt. King bond. Chief
23:12 Keef. Chief key for a lot. That would be crazy. Those are all like legitimate answers to,
23:18 I feel like we gotta have, there's gotta be some that we're forgetting. Yeah. Like old
23:23 time. Like what other bands we did? We got a lot of rappers. Yeah. It's probably a fiasco.
23:31 Yeah. Wilco's from here. Earth, wind and fire. Smashing pumpkins. Yeah. Pumpkins is a from
23:37 suburbia. Billy. Another one that we don't want to claim anymore, but R Kelly. Oh yeah.
23:43 Sam, Sam cook. RIP. I would have been a good one, but he's dead for 60 years. I might double
23:49 dip Friday concert. I saw Frankie Valley's playing in Peoria this weekend. You're going
23:53 to go down and take the bus to Peoria. Dude, I love Frankie Valley. Frankie Valley. Like
23:57 isn't he super fucking old? Yeah. What is even 92? It's not like a tribute band. It's
24:02 legitimately him. Frankie Valley. And those are guys you got to see because yeah, they're
24:07 not, they're not going to be around. Right. They're not the right. I'm surprised he's
24:10 still around. That's fucking nuts. He should be living his life. He has stopped before
24:14 me. Hang it up. Ricky. At what point do you do in the Elvis? At what point? Because that's
24:19 like not easy to perform like that. No, but I wonder if he's doing it well or if people
24:25 are just paying, you know, people like you just like, I'm going to go see him and I'm
24:28 going to enjoy it regardless. Yeah. Cause I'll be honest. Yeah. I'll be honest too.
24:34 Like don't get me wrong. I love being, he was, he was really good. Like it was, it was
24:38 an impressive show. No doubt about it. But at one point they took away all the back vocals
24:43 and everything and he did and she will be loved. Like one of their most famous songs
24:47 and it was just him and he was kind of having trouble hitting some of those cause he's like,
24:52 you know, 45 now or something like 44. I wonder if 42 maybe he seems like one of those people
25:00 who are like a product of the industry almost. Industry plant. No, I don't. So you're trying
25:05 to give, you're trying to give him the beluga analogy. What's the beluga analogy? How we
25:09 talked about how, well, white sacks Dave and you shit on some of these newer country artists
25:13 because you say that it's all just a mishmash of a, you know, songs. I think there's a plant
25:21 out there. I think there's a, probably an element of, we got this handsome guy with
25:25 the perfect facial hair. He's in a band, but we can auto tune or like change, edit his
25:30 voice for radio plays. And then when you see him live, it's, and he has to do it like you're
25:35 saying, I disagree with that. He was good, but he was, they were good, but it's like
25:40 he didn't have his, like his best fastball. You think he's 20, it was, he'd make recorded
25:45 that when he was like 20 something. Your voice changes after two decades. Well, six, you
25:50 know? Yeah, no, for sure. And I'm not saying it was bad. It was just like it was noticeable.
25:56 He was kind of, that's a hard song to industry plant. I wouldn't say that. Can I say something
26:02 in the industry plant thing? The first time I had ever heard that expression was about
26:06 this girl, the podcast, Bobby. Yeah. Who did like the Drake interview and these other rappers.
26:12 And then I think she just did Mark Cuban too. I had never heard the term industry plant.
26:17 Yeah. Well, like what is an industry plant? I think it's like people who are there to,
26:22 I don't know, you'd say it, Danny or just, yeah. I mean, it's pretty self explanatory.
26:28 Just, I don't know. Someone who's planted to boost the industry in some terms. They're
26:31 like, they're using a plant to manipulate how they want their industry to drive or yeah.
26:37 Like it's not a true genuine interview. Right. It's just there to kind of prop everybody
26:41 up on the PR. Like everything's premeditated. Yes. But they were saying that cause it's
26:46 like, she rose to fame so quick and you would never heard like no one gets interviews with
26:50 Drake like that. Why the fuck was she interviewing Drake like in a bed? I think that's like her
26:54 thing, right? No, like he provided the bed. Yeah. He, I think her thing is like doing
26:59 like weird, like shit, casual interviews. Yeah. But like I've seen, like she pops up
27:04 on my tick tock all the time though. And like she's sitting on a cement floor with Cuban.
27:09 She's just on like a couch with some other guy that I didn't recognize. Um, so I don't
27:13 know if that's like her thing. I guess she was like, she's famous on tick tock for being
27:18 a mom. Like there's like the mom tick tock. She's a mom. Yeah. She's got two kids. Oh
27:22 no shit. She's only like 26 right? Something like that. Yeah. But it's like, she's like,
27:28 they call it mom talk. She tried doing that and now are you, do you think she's an industry
27:34 plant? No, I don't know. I think she's funny as hell. Yeah. I think she's pretty funny
27:38 too. I haven't seen much. No, she's pretty funny to judge. Uh, do you think parcel has
27:43 an industry plant? You know who I'm starting to really not like who is Mark Cuban? Really?
27:48 Yeah. Ever since his Bobby interview, I feel like I, he, every time I see him, I'm just
27:53 like, this guy's just kind of a fucking asshole. Like he just comes off. Like, I don't know.
27:57 He's trying too hard. Like, dude, like God, I feel like that's like a no at all. I think
28:02 he might be getting to the point where he might be too overexposed is all. Yeah, maybe.
28:07 That's every, every like team owner just gives douchebag vibes. See, yeah. Yeah. Any team
28:17 owner who's like voluntarily doing media. Yeah. I can't think of one that's like left
28:22 an enjoyable Jerry Ryan impression. Jerry. I don't know. Um, but in a way all these people
28:34 are industry plants like the, like late night shows. Yeah. They know like that interview
28:40 is somewhat priest. It's pretty much prescript. Oh, totally. Yeah. But I think the audience
28:45 knows too. Like that's something that you're kind of expecting. I bet you that they also
28:49 like when they're going to hire a new one, I bet you they do all sorts of like favorability
28:54 tests. Like what do you think about Jimmy Fallon? And if you get like above a 70 or
28:58 whatever, I don't know what the number would be. Then it's like he gets the job even if
29:01 he's not necessarily as good. No, but I'm saying like if they have Margot Robbie on
29:07 late night, like that whole little segment is pretty much predetermined, you know, like
29:13 it's like, well, all right, let's hit some jokes. Like what's the funny Margo? Tell us
29:16 a funny story. Like I heard you did this. Yes. I heard you had a shoveling snow incident.
29:22 Exactly. They tee all that up. It's not a genuine conversation. Right. Cue card saying
29:26 pause for laughter. Yeah, it's it's all like that's as all this has been. I think imagine
29:32 going on a show where you just gave them everything to make you look amazing. That's that's a
29:37 crazy thing to think of. But I feel like that's fucking dead. No one likes that shit. Everyone
29:42 can kind of see through it now. Just start doing that for the. I don't know, dude. There's
29:46 a lot of fucking dummies. I think they're all but they're all old and dying now. That's
29:50 why I like Jimmy Fallon's and those people like they don't they're going to throw on
29:54 their dying days. They're all they are all. Yeah. Frankie Valley's watching that. Like
29:59 when those guys and those guys make so much money, they make those whole like those and
30:04 Fallon make like 20 million dollars a year. I saw a story of it was Leno was telling the
30:12 story camera who he was talking to. But he it was like after the 08 crisis where he was
30:18 making 30 million dollars a year. And they're like, hey, they came to him like, hey, like
30:23 we're going to have to cut back on some on staff. We have to let some people go. And
30:29 he's like, all right, well, what what would if I just took like a 50 percent pay cut?
30:35 Could we keep everybody and then maybe even hire a few more? They're like, well, yeah.
30:39 So he did. He's like, all right, I'll go from 30 to 15. And he was like, I have plenty of
30:43 money. I didn't give a shit. And it was just like, but it's like, wait, they're paying
30:46 him 30 million dollars. But that's that's it. You're on network TV. Yeah. Yes. You know,
30:53 I have to be. Yeah. But it's still just like a huge it's a it's it's a huge number. Yeah.
30:58 We are going to get maybe we're already there. Like is Internet money going to be worth more
31:02 than TV money? I remember hearing a stat from in like twenty nine years pre-COVID where
31:10 they're like. The ad spend in podcasts was expected to jump like eight by 80 times what
31:21 it was in twenty nineteen. And then COVID happened. Everyone's like, well, we're not
31:25 really listening to podcasts, you know. So then it kind of like flipped and it's like
31:30 been coming back. But that was like they're like in 10 years, like the spend is going
31:34 to be like unbelievable. It's wild, though, because I would say people are tuning into
31:41 the Internet or podcasts way more than TV these days. But still, if someone's on TV,
31:45 like he's like TV famous, not Internet famous, even though people are watching Internet way
31:49 more. I feel like TV still like moves a needle for sure. It does. It does. For whatever reason.
31:55 Yeah. But even like everyone's talking about like how you have like the Rogans and the
31:59 breaking points and all these shows. But I do feel like the three major networks, like
32:05 if they're talking about it, then it becomes a talking point for all the other like downstream
32:10 shows. Yeah, I forgot who it was. Logan Paul had someone on his show like years ago and
32:15 they talked about that like you're so much bigger than so many of these. Yeah. Like TV
32:20 brought out. Yes. Yes. But like, why is that? The guy like broke it down in a way maybe
32:26 it was an agent or something or like even though they know that the audience is bigger,
32:31 there's something about just having that like checkmark next to your name that you're a
32:35 TV guy. I also. Yeah. I also need that to break through. Like your parents will know
32:39 who they are. Yeah. I also have a theory that it's that people don't necessarily trust the
32:46 audience numbers too because there's so many different weight where you have like the Nielsen
32:51 ratings for radio and TV that is like a standard and like you can everybody uses it. We were
32:58 talking about this on during the writer's strike thing where it's like Apple streaming
33:02 has their own audience numbers, but it's not public Disney plus they have their subscribers,
33:07 but no one really knows who's watching what except for the company themselves. Yeah. So
33:13 I think if you're if you're you know an advertiser like well we know that they get X amount of
33:20 eyeballs versus a streaming show might not. Yeah. You're right. It's a guarantee. I don't
33:28 know spider. I don't know. Maybe we'll make it to the TV screen one day. Could you imagine?
33:34 Well you're talking about Chive TV. We're laughing about it. One of those chain restaurants
33:40 paying for like a loop of Barstool programming is not like too far out of the you think so
33:45 production. What what back at taxi cabs. Yeah. Who knows which restaurants do you think would
33:51 would consider Barstool River North. Yeah. Ruby Tuesday. So click it. Probably. I used
33:57 to think Ruby Tuesdays was good of those chain restaurants. I could see like a like a Twin
34:03 Peaks or something. What would they play though. Still loop of original content like schools.
34:07 Yes. Yeah. Just tilted guilt just you walk. Yeah. You see fucking that Devlin getting
34:12 shows by Brandon Walker. It's like breaking a hundred. Some dude sitting there drinking
34:19 is his fucking 24 ounce beer. Yeah. Just watching Dave hit the Velcro wall for the first time.
34:27 Like that's not that's not a crazy thought. It's kind of like what they do it. Snapchat
34:31 they'll take they'll take content from like two years ago and post it. Oh really. Yeah.
34:36 Like they had the old. Yeah. I think like Snapchat actually has a big say in it though
34:40 I could be wrong but like just a couple of weeks ago they did like the Michigan kid crying.
34:45 I saw that. No I mean it's I say this all time even like now we're in year five like
34:52 we don't pull enough of our archive footage at all. You know I mean. Well they actually
34:56 just posted our Northwestern. I saw that like shit like that again. Yeah. It's like I came
35:02 off great in that by the way I rewatched it. Fuck Dave. Well we put I'd posted a couple
35:09 months ago. Everyone Dave was like show the clip of me sacking chief now. And you guys
35:13 got into it. I'm sure it'll happen again. Yeah. For those that didn't see the Northwestern
35:18 football video we're talking about. Yeah I was way back for the the the wine challenge
35:25 that we did on Friday. I don't know if anyone listening. It's on our YouTube. If you want
35:29 to go check it out. A white socks Dave and chief faced off and there was five different
35:33 lines of different price ranges and I could spoil it right for. Yeah it's whatever. Yeah
35:40 long enough and white socks Dave like the cheapest one was three dollars a bottle and
35:45 that was what Franzia equates to if it were in bottle form. Yeah. And the most expensive
35:50 one was an 80 dollar came as an white socks Dave had Franzia as an 80 dollar price point.
35:56 It's those things are just perfect. You can't like you can't script that. Yeah. Yeah. Like
36:00 I was sitting there I was hosting it and I was I was pumping my fist when he was between
36:05 two and I was like please please please please. And when he did it I was like yes I was hard
36:12 my spot. I got to say because I only got one right as well. Yeah. But my bet it was hard.
36:17 Yeah. And you guys fucked it up. But how do you. Because are you. You're not a wine. No
36:21 no no no. I wish I was. I feel like it's not too late. Yeah. I just can't get around to
36:27 it. I do like I can't get around to it. Yeah. It's good. You're drinking that by yourself.
36:31 Yeah. What do you want to drink. You know again. Italian dinner. Me. Yeah. All right.
36:36 Really. Yeah. You did do that. Yeah. Yeah. You got at least get like old fashioned. I'll
36:40 do it. I'll do it all fast. Yeah. Like but like that's when I go for a fancy dinner or
36:46 a nice like Italian dinner. I'll start with an old fashioned and then order a bottle of
36:51 wine. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of the move. But I can't tell. Yeah I'll do the opposite.
36:56 I'll do old fashioned then Miller like liquor before beer in the clear. Do you believe that.
37:03 Yeah. Do you. Fucking your first time booze and you probably puked your guts out. I just
37:10 look a guy who like had a rough time first like drinking. I think the first drink I had
37:14 was like fucking. Peppermint gin. Oh wow. Getting right. It was pretty bad. Like mixed
37:24 with like power aid I want to say pepper. That sounds like it was one of the worst combos
37:29 ever. Peppermint. Yeah. When I like McGillicuddy's or something. Do you remember yours. I think
37:36 my my first ever beer was like a regular course of course. When it was in the gold cans. That's
37:43 kind of sick. Do you remember yours. I remember like my first bad one. I probably had like
37:48 a or just like your first your first experience with alcohol. Yeah. My first like my first
37:54 memorable experience with alcohol. It was on the way to an OER concert taking the train
37:57 in from the Geneva train station. And I was trying to be a hard ass because there were
38:02 girls there in our group who I had like big crush on and I had never really drank. I think
38:07 I've told this story before. And so they're like had like water bottles with vodka in
38:12 it. I'm like I don't think there's enough vodka on this train really to get me drunk.
38:16 So me and my buddy split like a 20 ounce vodka and drank it in an hour. I can take the train
38:22 takes an hour to drink the whole thing. We took a cab because this is probably 2004 pre
38:28 Uber to a cab from the train station to the concert venue. And I was sitting in the middle
38:33 between these two girls and I puked all over myself. Damn. Five to chief can hang. No I
38:39 had grown at that point. This is this. I was probably 18. I was back from from prep school
38:43 visiting and I was probably I think I was probably 18 20 ounce of vodka. What do you
38:48 shoe nice. Like I didn't. But like I didn't know. Yeah. I did. Oh yeah. I had no idea
38:55 like what an appropriate amount of alcohol to drink was. I read the first time I poured
38:59 a drink and like it like it had to be like a six ounce pour. You know I mean like you
39:05 don't know like you have no idea. You know and it all tastes bad at that. You know like
39:10 you're not used to the taste of it all. It's like a harsh. So whether you have a lot or
39:14 a little it's not not like so if you're pouring a stiff drink you today. Well it's stiff.
39:18 Back then you're like this is what alcohol. Yes exactly. You know you have no answer.
39:22 Yeah. Dude I kind of wish I met five to chief. I probably would have tried to fight you.
39:27 I used to try to fight everybody when I was awesome. So Pat him on the head. I would have
39:31 fought you. I would have fought you. A little noogie. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well I got triggered
39:37 just thinking about him a little bank lollipop. That's I wish I was when I used from like
39:42 seventh grade until until I grew. I used to get in fights like all the time. So you like
39:48 he's picking on me. I had like Napoleon syndrome. I had early onset Napoleons. Well yeah. What
39:55 can you do. Yeah. Fuck I had something to say regarding that. We're I'm picking on five
40:02 to chief. No regarding alcohol. I don't know. It'll come to me at some point but we can
40:09 wrap it up. Spider thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Grand
40:13 Marshal. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for coming with me. I would have changed my Twitter name by
40:17 now to Grand Marshal Spider. Yeah. I think I want to rebrand at some point. Well from
40:21 Spider maybe. No. I had to explain to like 40 people why I was spider. I just wanted
40:28 to hand him a script or something. I still don't know. He spiders never even seen good
40:32 phones. He doesn't even get it. Oh spider. No. Yeah I don't I don't watch that. That
40:37 it comes from that. Yeah. Yes. You didn't know that. No I didn't know. Because when
40:41 spider at the old office when he first started and step step. No please. I'm not a liar.
40:46 This guy like they would look around like Dave and Big Cat look around this guy and
40:50 he'd be like fucking carrying three cases of water over his back like just like getting
40:54 shit done and just doing all this fucking heavy labor. And I like to the fuck is this
40:58 guy. This guy's working his balls off. I thought that was a college nickname. No I was just
41:03 like everyone at Barstool is a fucking call sign or like a. Yeah. That's kind of correct
41:07 what I said right. Yeah. And they're like that's spider from you know good fellows.
41:12 And then I found out later that he gets shot and killed. Yeah. Yeah. Spoiler. Maybe I should
41:16 watch a movie. Good movie. He should. He gets all feisty which you're all face. Oh yeah.
41:21 I got that Joe Pesci in me. I'm pretty sure he's the one who should kills him. Yeah. Yeah.
41:25 Let's go on. It's your it's Christopher Moltisanti is better. Yeah. Michael and I think I'm more
41:30 of a Joe Pesci than a Christopher Moltisanti but Barstool Pesci. Why don't you go fuck
41:35 yourself. And crazy. All right then. This is fun. Thanks. Yeah. I enjoyed this. All
41:43 right. Back tomorrow. Thanks everybody for listening. We'll see you then.
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