00:00Madalas sa mga reunion o family gathering,
00:03maririnig natin ang mga pagbati na parang biro.
00:05Pero kadalasan, nakatoon sa timbang at hugis ng katawan natin.
00:10Ay, pwede yan na lagi yan na,
00:12Uy, tumatapak!
00:14Kain ka ng kain!
00:15Ano kay epekto kapag tinatanggap lang natin ang joke lang bilang joke?
00:19Ngayong araw, makasama natin ang ating resident psychiatrist
00:23dito sa RSP na si Dr. Joan May Perez-Siparial
00:26para talakayan ng body shaming culture.
00:28Ang epekto nito sa mental health
00:30at kung paano natin pwedeng baguhin ang ganitong nakasanayang.
00:34Good morning, Doc. Welcome back.
00:35Hello! Good morning to, of course, Profi and Sir Joshua
00:39sa lahat ng mga nakikinig at nanonood.
00:41Good morning to everyone.
00:42Doc, bakit parang nagiging normal na para sa maraming mga tao
00:46dito sa Pilipinas, yung kultura ng body shaming?
00:50Yes, which is a bit sad
00:52kasi ito siya isang deeply rooted na,
00:55deeply, deep-seated na part na ng ating cultural norm.
01:00Parang, especially ngayon, with the advent of social media,
01:04mas napopropagate pa, yung concept natin ng perpekto.
01:07Yung normalize na natin.
01:09Yung standard natin ng ganda.
01:10Correct, correct.
01:11And of course, pag mga family, as mentioned kayo ng mga reunion,
01:14parang sa tradition kasi namimension yun,
01:16but of course, tayo, ayaw natin ng further conflict,
01:20kaya hindi na natin kinokorek.
01:21Diba, that's very cool, medyo nakakasakit yun ng damdamin.
01:25Tapos, Doc, pag mas matanda sa'yo.
01:27Yes.
01:27Parang binabastas mo na siya pag sinagot mo siya.
01:30Hindi tayo sumasagot normally, di ba?
01:32Kasi ayaw natin ng further conflict.
01:35Of course, gusto natin i-preserve yung peace
01:37during mga reunions and parties.
01:40So, parang na, as mentioned kayo ni Profi,
01:42nanonormalize na rin siya in the process.
01:45So, can we consider this as a toxic Filipino trait
01:49o meron din ganito sa iba't-ibang kultura?
01:52Yes, Sir Joshua.
01:53Number one, yung sa first question mo,
01:55toxic talaga siya.
01:56Lalo na if it's not addressed,
01:58hindi siya kaagad na co-correct.
02:00Because marami siyang implication or impact
02:02doon sa individual na receiver
02:04ng information na yun.
02:06Okay.
02:06And it can cause yung low self-esteem,
02:09maapektuhan yung tingin mo sa sarili mo,
02:11body image mo,
02:13at nagkakaroon also ito ng implication or impact.
02:16Of course, yung mga tingin natin
02:18is baka na-internalize natin
02:21kung anong sinasabi about our body,
02:23ay yun na rin ang pinapaniwalaan natin in the end.
02:26And sa second question mo, Sir Joshua,
02:27kung gano'n ito din,
02:28yes, meron din ito sa ibang cultures.
02:31And in fact, it can take other forms.
02:33Like you mentioned kayo na fat shaming,
02:35yung iba naman ng forms of shaming,
02:37yung smart shaming,
02:38single shaming.
02:39So, marami siya.
02:40So, it's across cultures also.
02:42And it can be felt by anyone.
02:44Eh, dog, sabi ko joke lang.
02:46Hindi ko naman sinasad siya.
02:48Parang for fun lang.
02:50Should we do that?
02:51No.
02:52Kasi alam natin na kahit na joke,
02:54wala tayong intention to humiliate,
02:56to cause harm,
02:57or to embarrass someone.
02:59Siyempre, hindi natin alam.
03:00Personally, kung anong impact nun
03:02sa isang individual,
03:03lalo na kung isang individual
03:04ay may pinagbedaan na,
03:06kung may concerns na about their self-esteem,
03:09confidence nila.
03:10Siyempre, of course,
03:11there's a thin line
03:12na ito ay isang statement na,
03:15yung sa iba kasi,
03:16kaya nila ito sinasabi,
03:18is sabi nila, no,
03:19because of concern
03:20sa ating, ano,
03:22weight,
03:23concern about our health,
03:26kanya na namimension.
03:27But of course,
03:27maaari siguro na rephrase natin,
03:29or paraphrase,
03:30into something
03:31na mas magandang pakinggan,
03:33na it's born out of love and concern.
03:36Positive scripting.
03:37Oo, yun, pwede.
03:38Mayroon lang ako pahabol,
03:40kasi parang they would say na,
03:42the generations of before,
03:43wala namang ganyang body shaming,
03:45body shaming,
03:46dati parang di naman binibigdil yan,
03:49bakit ngayon parang lahat ay,
03:50kailangan gawin na siyang issue,
03:52dok?
03:53Mali ba na gawin siyang issue, dok?
03:55Hindi.
03:56In fact, sa other cultures, no,
03:58nagsimula nga ito from other cultures,
04:00and nakukuha na lang siya natin.
04:02Hindi lang siya masyadong address before.
04:04Again, iba kasi ang generations in the past,
04:08iba din ngayon.
04:09Kasi now,
04:10mas may awareness na
04:11ang mga Gen Zs,
04:13mga millennials,
04:14about this.
04:14At napag-uusapan na siya,
04:16may awareness na tayo,
04:18how to say things,
04:20with kindness,
04:22with respect,
04:23na alam natin na huwag tayong makasakit.
04:25Or ang words natin ay huwag makapanakit sa iba.
04:28So, mas napag-uusapan na siya ngayon.
04:30The awareness is there,
04:31which is good also.
04:32So, napagkit mo, Dok,
04:33pwede nga maka-apekto to sa self-esteem.
04:35Paano yan?
04:35Bawa yung mga tsahin natin,
04:37mga tsihuhin natin,
04:38na pagka bumati,
04:38uy, tumatawa ka.
04:40Paano natin sila sasagutin?
04:42Like, for example, ako,
04:43paano ko sasagutin yung kamag-anak ko na,
04:46in a way na,
04:47masabi ko na,
04:49medyo offensive na yung ganyan?
04:50Yes.
04:51Respectful pa rin lagi.
04:52We can say na,
04:54oops,
04:54kung comfortable,
04:56kung comfortable tayo,
04:58Sir Joshua.
04:59Ikaw naman po.
05:01Marami na pambiling pagkain po.
05:03Correct.
05:04Tama yun.
05:05Iano mo siya,
05:05mindset also is very important.
05:07We reframe it na,
05:08tita,
05:09ang ibig sabihin noon,
05:11is nakakakain tayo,
05:13we are healthy,
05:14and,
05:15na-maintain natin,
05:17we are well, no?
05:19Pero may mapilito yung binit,
05:20tumaba ka talaga.
05:22Paano ka magkakaasawan yan?
05:24Nakakaluwag ka nga,
05:25sikip naman ang pantalon mo.
05:26Ganyan,
05:26magandang sila.
05:28Paano kaya yung dok?
05:30Paano na?
05:31Lungan mo nga kami?
05:32Yes.
05:32Paano,
05:33sometimes talaga,
05:33it can be very harsh na,
05:35and hurtful.
05:36But,
05:37sometimes,
05:37kailangan din natin maintindihan
05:39na wala tayong control, eh,
05:41sa mga sinasabi ng iba.
05:43Kanya-kanya kasi yung personality,
05:45and styles nila of communicating,
05:47kaya nga,
05:47sometimes lost in translation din, eh.
05:49Okay.
05:50Instead of gusto nila iparating
05:51na they're concerned,
05:52medyo nawawala din, no?
05:53Because of the words,
05:54choice of words sila.
05:55So,
05:55focus tayo ngayon
05:56sa mga bagay na
05:57meron tayong control over.
05:59For example,
06:00do not let their words
06:01affect you.
06:02Do not take it personally.
06:04Parang hirap.
06:04Oh, mahirap siya.
06:05Oo.
06:06Pero kailangan,
06:07ano tayo,
06:07we are aware, eh,
06:08na hindi tayo magpapa-apekto
06:10sa gano'n.
06:11It shouldn't define us.
06:13Kung ano ang ating pagkatago,
06:14na tayo ay mabait,
06:15na tayo ay,
06:16we are just healthy,
06:18na so,
06:18huwag tayo magpapa-apekto.
06:20So, yun yung tiyatawag natin
06:21ng shift ang focus.
06:22Okay.
06:23At tandaan natin na
06:24we have no control,
06:25kahit naman saan,
06:26di ba?
06:26Hindi,
06:27po totoo.
06:28Whatever situation,
06:29kahit may mga bashers.
06:30Imagine yung kasi,
06:31hibaw,
06:31Sandra,
06:32may tumataba ka,
06:32so,
06:33shift mo yung focus mo,
06:34kumain ka lang,
06:34kumain sa harap.
06:36Tama,
06:37lalo bang,
06:38mataba ka ako, eh.
06:39May pang kanin,
06:40gano'n.
06:40Kailangan ako pa ganyan,
06:41di ko maiwasan.
06:42Yes.
06:46Pero huwag tayo yung mga bata,
06:50ah.
06:50Kailangan mabait po tayo.
06:51Yes.
06:52Mabalik ka rin.
06:53Oo, oo, oo.
06:53Huwag yung mga gagayain
06:54si Prof. T.
06:55Yes.
06:57Oo, kasi ayaw natin
06:58na mag-escalate pa.
06:59Yes.
06:59Oo, yung mga reunion pa naman,
07:01parang it's a time to,
07:02ano lang, na,
07:03celebrate,
07:03be cordial.
07:04Mamaya makungkat pa yung ibang bagay.
07:05Wag na, oo.
07:06Mas maganda de-escalate
07:07kung talagang hindi kaya
07:09ang situation
07:09kasi medyo tense for us.
07:11Ano lang tayo,
07:12we can engage with other people.
07:14Huwag na yun kay tita.
07:15Divert.
07:16Divert.
07:17Oo, hanap tayo yung ibang
07:17mga kausap natin
07:18na more on ka-level natin
07:20ng mindset and values.
07:22Kasi baka maungkat pa
07:23yung mga lupain.
07:24Oo, oo.
07:24Oo, yung lahat ng problema.
07:26Di ba, yun ang favoritong problema
07:27sa familia, lupain.
07:28Lupain.
07:29Di ba?
07:29May pambiligan ng pagkain
07:31pero yung contribution sa amilyar
07:32di ba na ayos.
07:34Huwag ganon.
07:35Di ba?
07:35Do?
07:36Yes, correct.
07:37Alimbawa, kami ni Joshua,
07:38magkaibigan naman kami,
07:39nag-body shaming kami sa isa.
07:41Alam namin sa sarili namin yun.
07:43Dapat ba?
07:44Hindi namin gawin
07:44kasi para ma-practice yun
07:45sa ibang tao.
07:46Para para ma-motivate din namin
07:48yung isa't isa.
07:48Oo.
07:49It depends sa relationship nyo ngayon.
07:51So, it depends on the strength,
07:53the lalim, no,
07:54ng ating relationship.
07:55Kasi kung trusted naman natin,
07:57ang ating friend,
07:58kung if we know
07:59na hindi naman itetake
08:00yung ating words
08:01in a judgmental na way,
08:03na instead of being judgmental
08:05ay nakakatulong
08:06para maiwasan natin
08:07hypertension,
08:08diabetes,
08:08at iba pang mga sakit, no,
08:10alongside with our weight
08:12and our, ano, siguro, body.
08:14Ngayon, mas maganda,
08:15we are open and honest
08:17na sa ating communication,
08:18but dapat trusted natin
08:20ang ating kausap
08:21at hindi siya itetake personally.
08:23Ayun.
08:24Alright, maraming maraming
08:25salamat po sa inyong oras,
08:27Dr. Joan May Perez-Rifarayan.
08:30Thank you so much, Doc.
08:31Thank you, Sir Joshua, Proffy.
08:32Salamat po sa lahat.
08:33Good morning.
08:33Okay.
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