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00:25Ukraine and Russia have privately shown some flexibility over disputed territory
00:30That's according to U.S. media reports
00:33Citing a senior American official
00:35As a new round of talks aimed at ending the war began in Abu Dhabi yesterday
00:39The U.S. official cautioned that territorial disputes
00:43Could not be resolved without agreement on post-war security arrangements
00:47The negotiations opened with a meeting between Ukrainian, American and European representatives
00:52Ahead of the first trilateral talks involving Kiev, Moscow and Washington since February
00:58Train drivers in Spain went on strike yesterday to demand more investment in maintenance and safety
01:05Following Spain's second fatal rail crash this year
01:08About half of long, medium and distance services in the country were cancelled
01:13As well as 90% of services in Madrid's commuter network
01:17The situation will likely get worse today
01:20As workers staged the country's first general strike in 14 years
01:25Minimum service levels have been set for transport, schools and healthcare
01:29Among other things, unions want higher wages and limits on rents
01:35And Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
01:39Backed the European Union's campaign to protect children from online harassment
01:44Speaking at the European Parliament in Brussels
01:46Prince Harry accused social media companies of failing to make their platforms safer
01:52Leaving children exposed to online harassment and bullying
01:55Sometimes with fatal consequences
01:58He also praised the proposed EU Kids Act
02:01Which aims to strengthen protections for children online
02:05Welcome to the program, I'm Stefan Gromert
02:08Ukrainian, Russian and US negotiators are set to resume peace talks in Abu Dhabi for a second day
02:15After Kiev and Washington described yesterday's discussions as constructive and productive
02:20The first round lasted around four hours with discussions focusing on humanitarian issues
02:27Including a possible large-scale prisoner exchange
02:31And the return of Ukrainian civilians and children held by Russia
02:35Security guarantees for Ukraine were also on the agenda
02:39Our correspondent Toby Gregory, who is in the United Arab Emirates
02:43Just sent us this update minutes ago
02:47Here in the UAE, the first thing to say is that the mood from Washington is one of cautious optimism
02:52Secretary of State Marco Rubio described the first day of talks as very productive
02:57But one that much work remains and a settlement is not imminent
03:02On whether there was any sign of progress
03:04Gerald Kushner, who is leading the delegation here in the UAE alongside Steve Witkoff
03:09Said there were some good ideas on how to bridge the differences between Ukraine and Russia
03:15Looking at the bigger picture, Kushner said that Washington wants to develop a new framework for lasting peace
03:22But for all the positive language we're hearing, significant disagreements still remain
03:27Particularly over territory and security arrangements
03:30So what are we watching for on this second day here in the UAE?
03:34Well, the key question is whether Washington's efforts can turn into tangible progress at the table
03:40There are reports that Witkoff and Kushner could well travel to Moscow and Kiev
03:45Although neither of those visits have been officially confirmed
03:48And there's certainly no itinerary that has been announced
03:54Toby Gregory in the UAE, thank you very much
03:57Let's digest everything now with Sasha Vakulina, our Ukraine correspondent
04:02Good morning, Sasha
04:03So we've just heard about Washington's assessment of the first day of talks
04:08What have Kiev and Moscow said about the negotiations?
04:12And are there any signs that their positions are moving closer?
04:15Well, just like Washington, Kiev tried to put out a very positive assessment there
04:20We've heard from the negotiators and the delegation that indeed
04:22They think that the first day went well
04:26This was also the statement coming from Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky
04:29After he had a briefing with his delegation in Abu Dhabi
04:32He described the trilateral talks as, quote, constructive and quite substantive
04:37Now, he also said they spoke in detail about the substance of security guarantees for Ukraine
04:42And the foundations for ensuring these guarantees function over the long term
04:47Real tools are needed to block any recurrence of the war
04:50The need for de-escalation steps was also touched upon
04:54Now, there's a stark contrast with any sort of assessment coming from Moscow
04:58Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, was not at all this sort of positive and optimistic about the negotiations
05:05In fact, he once again rejected the idea of any form or shape of a ceasefire, Stefan
05:10That's, of course, what Ukraine is trying to achieve
05:12And he accused the European partners of pushing for the ceasefire with a hidden agenda
05:18Now, this is what Lavrov had to say about the EU representatives
05:22Everything we're hearing now from Brussels and other EU capitals boils down to a demand for an immediate ceasefire
05:28It is the same old logic
05:29They need to buy time to somehow recoup the military losses they have sustained
05:34Now, Russia itself took a few years to regroup between the first invasion of Ukraine in 2014
05:39And then the full-scale war in 2022
05:41So, Sasha, Zelensky also referred to further consultations with his European partners
05:46But, as we know, Europe doesn't have a seat at the table
05:50Now, what role do they play in the diplomatic process?
05:53And might they change?
05:56I think what we are seeing now is Europe trying to find its way
06:01And trying to find that seat at the table
06:03Not for today, but for the negotiations in the future
06:08Now, Kiev insist that it wants to have European partners at the table
06:11Washington warmed up to the idea
06:13Also saying that, yes, indeed, we heard from Marco Rubio
06:15Who indicated that, yes, would want European representatives to participate directly
06:21But also, eventually, yet again, Russia is very much against it
06:25Now, Moscow said that they do not want to have the Europeans at the table
06:28Another assessment and another quote coming from Sergei Lavrov saying
06:33They flew to Abu Dhabi, he said, referring to the European representatives
06:36Let them sit there in the hotel
06:40Now, that says a lot about whether or not Kremlin is actually welcoming the European representatives at the talks
06:46I hope the hotel is quite comfortable
06:48Sasha Vakulina, as ever, thank you very much
06:51NATO is represented at the talks in Abu Dhabi by senior officials
06:56Including the alliance's top military general, Alexis Grinkovic
07:00Our NATO correspondent, Shona Murray, caught up with Deputy Supreme Allied Commander John Stringer at NATO headquarters
07:07She started by asking him whether he had any optimism of a genuine breakthrough ahead
07:13Take a listen
07:14So, we all know the Russian demands have been maximalist from the start
07:22I hope, but I say hope, that they enter into negotiations in a genuine spirit of seeking resolution here
07:32And that it's not just, frankly, a restatement of demands that, as I said, go back to 2022
07:39So, let's see how serious Russia is here
07:42And in terms of territory, it is absolutely one for the Ukrainians
07:48As I said, sovereign nation invaded in 2022, having had Crimea annexed in 2014
07:55So, Ukrainian interests here have to be paramount
07:59In relation to the interceptor issue, President Zelensky, he said they're waiting over a month for delivery of patriots to
08:08Ukraine
08:08He said that all that's required is a signature from the US Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth
08:14Patriots, understandably, are in high demand globally
08:17Hence my point on increasing the overall size of the industrial base
08:22And a number of discussions have been held and are ongoing with a number of nations
08:28About how we might increase the flow of patriot interceptors to Ukraine
08:33But they're obviously sensitive discussions and I can't really talk about them in public
08:39Obviously, Russia's not doing well five years into a supposedly five-day attack on the whole of Ukraine
08:45Partly, though, would you agree that Ukrainians have been able to strike into Russian territory
08:50In particular at the diesel infrastructure
08:53But would you agree that this needs to continue in order to stop the access that Russia has to money
08:59Through its oil production and exportation?
09:02So, quite rightly, the Ukrainians are running their campaign
09:07But you're absolutely right in the sense that what they have done against Russian oil and gas
09:14Has had a demonstrable impact on the Russian economy
09:18It is economic warfare in 2026
09:22And it is a key element
09:26Obviously, you need to just look at it from outside
09:28A key element in the Ukrainian campaign
09:31So, it's hurting Russia
09:33I will leave it to the Ukrainians as to how they prosecute that campaign in the future
09:40But it does underline my point
09:42This is hurting Putin
09:44He thought he was going to roll in
09:46Establish an e-security architecture in Europe
09:49That started in Ukraine in early 22
09:52And he's been sorely disabused on that one
09:56And what Ukraine has been able to do
09:59Through imagination, innovation and will
10:02Is quite incredible
10:03And we should salute it
10:08Shona Mari at NATO
10:10Thank you very much
10:11The Black Sea is becoming an increasingly dangerous front line
10:16In Russia's war against Ukraine
10:18Commercial ships are being struck
10:20Seafarers are missing
10:21And NATO's eastern flank is feeling the fallout
10:24Now, Brussels is stepping in with 70 million euros in funding
10:28But is that enough to turn the tide?
10:32I'm now joined by our defence correspondent Angela Skugins
10:35Who has doggedly followed these deadly maritime events
10:39Good morning, Angela
10:40Good morning, Stefan
10:41So, how does the European Union plan to step in and offer support?
10:46So, it's predominantly through cash
10:48As you rightly mentioned
10:50European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen
10:52Visited Romania and Bulgaria on Monday and Tuesday
10:55Where she made this announcement
10:57The Black Sea traditionally is a key maritime corridor
11:01Used for the transport of goods
11:04As well as energy
11:05Military mobility is very important here
11:07But now it continues to feel the spillover effects
11:11Of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine
11:14Now, Brussels will come to the aid of both of these EU member states
11:17Through funding
11:1810 million euros will be given individually and separately
11:22To Sofia and Bucharest for search and rescue operations
11:25While 50 million euros will be given to the development
11:28And the fast tracking of the building of the Black Sea maritime security hub
11:33This will be split between Constanza and Varna
11:36Maritime ports in both countries
11:39And the thrust of the centre when it's operational
11:42Is to track and detect seaborne threats
11:45Such as cable carts and hopefully drones
11:47And, of course, the question is
11:48Will that be enough to plug an increasingly hostile security situation
11:53In that region?
11:55Yeah, so that's the bigger question
11:56Whether 70 million euros will be enough
11:58But just to highlight the scale of the situation here
12:02At least nine commercial vessels have been struck
12:04Damaged, capsized or sunk in the Black Sea
12:07Near Romania and Bulgaria
12:08Between the 5th and 28th of October
12:10Leaders from both nations were recently in Brussels
12:13Where they met NATO Secretary General Mark Rutter
12:16To talk about support
12:17I spoke with the Romanian President, Nicolò Dhan
12:20About how perilous the situation is there
12:23Let's take a listen to his response
12:24It started air drones on our territory
12:28It started something like one year and a half ago
12:33We are not prepared for that
12:35We ask inside the NATO for the support of our allies
12:39We receive some support
12:41Also, we will have a permanent solution
12:43After buying the capabilities
12:46That we already ordered during a safe program
12:50So now at the Black Sea
12:53We are in the same situation
12:55When will the Black Sea be safe?
12:58Hopefully when the war will stop
13:04All right, Angela Skugins
13:07Thank you for your reporting
13:08Europe is increasingly finding itself
13:11On the front line of a shadow war
13:13From cyber attacks targeting supermarket refrigeration systems
13:17To suspicious incidents disrupting commercial aviation
13:21A growing number of hybrid threats
13:23Are exposing the vulnerabilities of critical infrastructure
13:26Across the continent
13:27Russia and other hostile actors
13:30Are suspected of exploiting these weaknesses
13:32To sow disruption, fear and mistrust
13:35Is Europe doing enough to defend itself?
13:38For more on this, I'm now joined by Rio Terras
13:41An Estonian member of the European Parliament
13:43From the European People's Party
13:44Where he serves on the committees
13:46For foreign affairs and security and defense
13:49Good morning and welcome to the program
13:54Good morning
13:55So why are seemingly mundane targets
13:58Such as supermarkets, airports and transport networks
14:02Becoming increasingly attractive to hostile actors?
14:08I would say that these targets are different
14:12Their attacks against the supermarkets
14:14Are attacks against the infrastructure
14:18Which actually is not critical or vital services
14:23Because the critical and vital services
14:25Like the airports, etc.
14:28Need to be disconnected from the internet
14:31And we have seen the attacks against the supermarkets
14:34Which, in my opinion, is just not enough finances
14:39From the side of the owner of the shops
14:42And not enough upgrades to the computer systems
14:47I think that can be avoided
14:49And that is actually something which needs to be trained
14:55And regularly looked at
14:57The other thing is the critical infrastructure
14:59And vital services
15:01And there the responsibility of the states
15:04Is very important
15:05And also
15:06European Union has already
15:11Decided about
15:13Network and Information Security Act
15:15Let me ask you this
15:17Let me ask you this
15:19Russia is the usual suspect
15:20When it comes to hybrid operations
15:22Across Europe
15:23But France has now accused
15:24Iran's Revolutionary Guard
15:26Of orchestrating the supermarket cyber attacks
15:28Do you believe Moscow and Tehran
15:30Are coordinating their efforts
15:32To put pressure on Europe?
15:36I don't know
15:38It is sure that they will
15:42Using both sides
15:43But whether they coordinate
15:45I am not that sure about it
15:47But to create a cause
15:49Before the elections in France
15:50After the riots on the streets
15:52It just fits to the picture
15:54And the chaos and the stability
15:57And the feeling in the population
16:00That government does not do enough
16:02That is what they are aiming for
16:04And that is very easy to do
16:07Especially in the times
16:08Where we have Internet of Things
16:10Which normally is not
16:11Almost not protected properly
16:13You can create very easily chaos
16:16Without any big restrictions
16:19I think
16:19And we need to really attribute
16:23These attacks to the state actors
16:26Like the French did to Iran
16:28And then use our package of tools
16:31Sanctions or diplomacy
16:33To deal with the things
16:35And then the important thing
16:37Is that the European Union
16:38Needs to use its strength
16:40All right
16:41Rio Terras
16:42MEP from Estonia
16:43Thank you very much
16:44For your time this morning
16:45The European Parliament
16:47Hosted two special guests yesterday
16:49The Duke and Duchess of Sussex
16:51Harry and Meghan
16:52As part of a campaign
16:54To protect children
16:55From online harassment
16:56They unveiled
16:58The Lost Screen Memorial
16:59First launched in New York
17:01Last year
17:01Which features photographs
17:03Of young people
17:04Whose deaths have been linked
17:06To online harms
17:07Following the royal couple
17:09Through Brussels
17:09Was our correspondent
17:10Vincenzo Genovese
17:12Good morning Vincenzo
17:13Good morning Stefan
17:14So you've covered
17:15Prince Harry's address
17:16At the European Parliament
17:18How was it?
17:19It was powerful
17:21It was emotional
17:22He lashed out
17:23At social media companies
17:25For failing to protect
17:26Children from online harassment
17:29And bullying
17:30Which has led
17:31In some cases
17:32To suicides
17:33In Europe and elsewhere
17:35In particular
17:36He called for
17:37Tough regulation
17:38Of social media
17:40And to disallow
17:41This short form
17:43Addictive scrolling
17:45Which he believes
17:46Is particularly harmful
17:47For two young people
17:49Let's take a listen
17:50To Harry
17:51The majority
17:52Of these companies
17:55They don't let
17:56Their children
17:56On social media
17:58Because they know
17:59The dangers
18:01So why would you
18:02Create something
18:03That you know
18:03Is going to harm
18:04Someone else's child
18:05You know
18:05These companies
18:06Have caused so much harm
18:09There has to be
18:09Accountability
18:13Now Vincenzo
18:14You also followed him
18:15Through the corridors
18:16If I may say
18:17And he did get
18:18Quite a warm welcome
18:20Didn't he?
18:21Yes definitely
18:22When he was moving
18:24From one meeting
18:25To another
18:26He walked past
18:27Crowds of parliamentary
18:28Assistants
18:29Officials from the parliament
18:31Trying to get a picture
18:33Or a video of him
18:34Some people even
18:36Shouted his name
18:37I would say
18:38He was a bit of
18:39A rock star
18:40In the parliament
18:41Yesterday
18:42And as a rock star
18:44He didn't answer
18:45Any questions
18:46From reporters
18:46Including mine
18:47That is too bad
18:49But one question
18:50That everybody
18:51Wants to know
18:52About is
18:53What happened to Megan?
18:54We haven't seen her much
18:55Right?
18:56Yeah indeed
18:56Indeed
18:57She didn't attend
18:58Any meetings
18:59With MEPs
19:01Beyond the official
19:02Unvealing of the
19:03Lost screen memorial
19:04She was set
19:06To deliver a speech
19:07Indeed
19:08But reportedly
19:09She pulled out
19:10Because of the
19:11Emotional strain
19:12Of recent days
19:13After her father
19:15Was arrested
19:15In the US
19:16On suspicion
19:17Of possessing
19:18Child sexual abuse
19:19Material
19:20That is certainly
19:21Not ideal
19:22Vincenzo Genovese
19:24Our royal correspondent
19:25Thank you very much
19:27And that does it
19:28For us today
19:28If you want to
19:30See me again tonight
19:30Tune in to our
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19:36For its second season
19:37That's tonight
19:38At 9.10pm CET
19:40As for now
19:41Thank you for watching
19:42I'm Stefan Grobe
19:43Take care
19:44And see you soon