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05:51So therefore the numbers aren't there for even partial suspension, let alone a full suspension of this agreement.
05:57Okay, Shauna, thank you so much for that.
05:59And I know you'll be speaking to Luxembourg's Foreign Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, Xavier Betel.
06:05Later this morning, we'll bring you that interview from Shauna on tomorrow's show.
06:10But now, the Norwegian Foreign Minister, Espen Bart-Aide, was in town in Brussels yesterday
06:16to co-chair a meeting on promoting a two-state solution for Palestine.
06:20He spoke to our Europe editor, Maria Tadeo, shortly after that meeting.
06:25Maria started by asking him about the situation in the Middle East
06:29and whether he feared a return to hostilities between the US, Israel and Iran
06:34is the most likely scenario as the expiration of the ceasefire nears.
06:40Well, these are different questions.
06:43So if you look at Iran, I would say the difficult part is that the sides are far apart.
06:51I mean, first, their demands are far apart, although they have been working on them.
06:55I think there's been some progress.
06:57But also because one party or the other party is asking the other party
07:02to do some of the things in the ceasefire before they go to the meeting.
07:06So my advice will be go to the meeting, talk to each other.
07:10On the good side, I think there is a motive in both countries, both in the US and Iran.
07:14The war was highly unpopular in the US and created a lot of havoc in the world economy.
07:20And I also think that Iran, who has been severely battered through the attacks,
07:24would like to avoid the continuation of war.
07:26So there is a motive.
07:27And let's all try to work to help them to go in the peaceful direction.
07:32This is not only an issue for the two sides, but it affects the whole world economy.
07:37And what role for the Europeans?
07:38Because President Trump has expressed his frustration at the Europeans and NATO too,
07:43saying they have not done anything.
07:45This is a paper tiger.
07:47Without the US, they are not capable.
07:49What's your response?
07:50Well, you know, I believe very much in NATO.
07:53I believe NATO is good for all its members, including the United States.
07:57But there are so many other things NATO does.
08:00And by standing together, we are defending the transatlantic area.
08:04But NATO is a defensive alliance.
08:06It's not an attack alliance.
08:07It's, you know, there have been occasions where we have joined forces in entering into faraway battles.
08:15But that has then been well prepared beforehand.
08:17One has made the argument, was uninvited.
08:21The allies and collective decisions has been made.
08:24None of that was tried before the Iran war.
08:27So there was a very limited appetite to be part of the war.
08:32However, many NATO countries, including my own Norway, is now dedicated to work on making sure that the Hormuz Strait
08:41is open and remains open.
08:43Not as NATO, but as in the context of a broad coalition of interested parties who are third parties to
08:50the conflict,
08:50who are not fighting with either side, but who have a shared interest in protecting the principle of freedom of
08:59navigation at sea.
09:00So NATO countries are doing something, but it's not as party to a conflict.
09:05Just finally, just so we understand, the reconstruction and the construction of a two-state solution,
09:10is that going to be handled by the Board of Peace with many legal questions around the role that President
09:15Trump plays?
09:16Or is this an international UN-backed path?
09:19So the road to a one unified Palestinian state will be under the principles established by the UN over many
09:27years.
09:28And there are many countries that are strongly dedicated.
09:31Remember that almost 160 countries have now recognized Palestine as a state.
09:36That is way more than three quarters of the membership of the UN.
09:41So this is clearly the world's view on this.
09:44There has to be a Palestinian state.
09:46It still takes time.
09:47But we need to ensure that that happens in such a way that we have one unified Palestine
09:52under a solid democratic governance, able to live in peace with its neighbor Israel.
09:58And it's not around the corner.
10:00Israelis have said that not has been achieved, however.
10:02They say there's still terrorism operating and they have to leave in security.
10:06Are you taking in their feedback?
10:07Well, so we absolutely want to make sure that the people of Israel can live in peace as well
10:14and that they can be free of terrorism from their neighborhoods.
10:18But then you also have to contribute to making your neighborhood a place where people like to live peacefully.
10:24So a two-state solution under the auspices of the Palestinian government
10:28with the rights and responsibilities that comes by being a state with adequate international support
10:34should be precisely the neighbor and partner that would make it possible to live peacefully
10:39and not in eternal war for Israel.
10:41So when we, Norway, for many years have dedicated so much work to the two-state solution,
10:46we do it for Palestine, but we also do it for Israel.
10:49Because we remain convinced that in the long run,
10:52this is the only viable solution for real peace in a very troubled region.
11:00Maria Tadeo speaking, it's the Norwegian foreign minister there.
11:03As we heard from Shona earlier, Spain is leading calls for the suspension
11:07of the EU's trade and cooperation agreement with Israel
11:10over what it describes as persistent human rights violations.
11:14The proposal is not expected to get the necessary support from EU ministers.
11:18And this is not the first time the prospect of reviewing or suspending the agreement
11:22is raised by EU leaders.
11:25Our Jakob Janes explains.
11:28Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez is on a mission and he won't let go.
11:33And today, once again, he will formally propose severing the EU's association agreement with Israel.
11:40Sánchez has accused Netanyahu of setting the Middle East on fire
11:44and has doubled down on his criticism of the war in Iran and Israeli attacks on Lebanon.
11:50The proposal has already hit a wall multiple times.
11:54Will it work this time?
11:57Established in 2000, the EU-Israel Association Agreement is the bedrock of the economic and political relationship.
12:04And for months, Spain Island and Slovenia have demanded an urgent review.
12:09Now, a European citizens' initiative titled Justice for Palestine with over 1 million signatures is forcing the issue onto the
12:17agenda.
12:18Crucially, a possible suspension would not mean a full trade ban.
12:22About 60% of Israeli exports to the EU already enjoy zero tariffs under standard World Trade Organization rules.
12:31However, the remaining 37% rely on a special duty-free treatment granted exclusively by this agreement.
12:38Suspending it would slap sudden tariffs on Israeli machinery, medical devices and pharmaceuticals.
12:45And the EU is Israel's largest trading partner, with a relationship worth more than 45 billion euro a year.
12:53The European Commission estimates this would hit Israeli experts with an extra 227 million euro a year in duties
13:00and freeze millions in bilateral EU funding for ongoing cooperation projects.
13:05To fully scrap the deal, the EU needs everyone to agree.
13:09However, suspending justly trade privileges requires only qualified majority votes.
13:15And although Israel has lost one of its staunchest allies in Viktor Orbán's Hungary,
13:20and with Italy taking a harder line amid attacks on Christian places of faith,
13:25the proposal still faces an uphill battle.
13:33Jakob Janis there.
13:34Now, moving on, there are growing expectations, as we heard on the top of the show,
13:38that the rift between Hungary and Ukraine over the Drushba pipeline could be resolved soon.
13:43Hungary's outgoing Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has hinted he could drop his veto on EU financial support to Ukraine
13:49once the pipeline is repaired and is operational again.
13:53I'm joined for more by our Ukraine correspondent, Sasha Vakulina, who joins me in the studio.
13:57Good morning, Sasha.
13:58Zelensky gave an interview last night.
14:01When did he say that this pipeline could be back in operation?
14:04There are indeed signs, Maria, that it might be back and running imminently any day now.
14:11Let's take a look at the timeline of what's been happening with Drushba pipeline,
14:16which is indeed transporting Russia's cheap oil to Hungary and Slovakia.
14:20Now, it was damaged in the Russian drone attack at the end of January.
14:24And then on the 5th of March, Volodymyr Zelensky would take from six to eight weeks for Ukraine to repair
14:31Drushba.
14:32Now, it's been seven weeks since that statement.
14:36So, there we go.
14:36This is the timeline.
14:37And indeed, the expectations are that it might be up and running any time now.
14:42Hungary's prime minister-elect Petr Madyar said he hopes to have it back as soon as possible.
14:49What I can say to the Ukrainian president, although we have not spoken, is that this is not a game.
14:55If the Drushba pipeline is in condition to carry oil, then it should be reopened as promised.
15:01And this is where it is this rare moment when Budapest and Kyiv are actually aligned,
15:05because this is exactly what Volodymyr Zelensky said and did in that big interview you've mentioned to the Ukrainian television,
15:10when he said, for our part, we will fulfill what we promised by the end of April.
15:15The Hungarians, I think, will fulfill what they promised.
15:18They will unblock 90 billion.
15:19And the EU will fulfill what they promised, an agreement with the Hungarians, with the new government and with the
15:25others.
15:25And in that interview, Sasha Zelensky also outlining what he expects of the European Union now.
15:31Indeed.
15:32There are a few other decisions that Kyiv is expecting to get unblocked.
15:36Now, first of all, of course, this is the new package of sanctions against Russia, also blocked by Hungary.
15:41But also there is EU accession process for Kyiv.
15:45And this is something that's been vetoed consistently by Hungary, by Budapest,
15:49even before the Drushba pipeline gets damaged in the drone attack in the end of January.
15:54Ukraine is expecting to have some clusters opened.
15:58This is the big veto of Hungary.
16:00And in mid-March, Ukraine and the European Union said that they are going technically,
16:06in technical process of unblocking those clusters and opening to make sure that Kyiv is doing all the homework
16:12to be ready for when the moment comes.
16:14And the big expectation for Kyiv is now that the moment has come indeed for that.
16:19Okay, Sasha, I'm sure we'll be hearing more about that in the coming weeks.
16:21Thank you for that.
16:23And we're moving on to the Middle East again now,
16:25with the ceasefire in the U.S. and Israel's war against Iran due to expire tomorrow.
16:31President Donald Trump has said overnight it's highly unlikely he'll extend the truce
16:35unless a deal with Iran is reached before then.
16:39For more, we can cross over now to Dubai and to our correspondent there, Jane Witherspoon.
16:44Good to have you back, Jane.
16:46There were expectations of a second round of peace talks yesterday, also today.
16:51Where do we stand right now?
16:55Good morning.
16:56Well, there are lots of conflicting information going around everywhere at the moment
17:00as to whether those talks will take place in Islamabad.
17:04It's a waiting game for now.
17:06Obviously, the Iranians are keeping everyone hanging on till the last moment
17:09with no clear direction as to what they're going to do.
17:13And we are, of course, less than 48 hours until that cease-line deadline ends.
17:20President Donald Trump has vowed to maintain the blockade.
17:24He's also threatened to start bombing if an agreement is not made by Wednesday evening.
17:30Meanwhile, the Iranians have said that they're not prepared to enter into any negotiations
17:35under the shadow of threats.
17:37And, Jane, I know you spoke to the U.K. ambassador to the UAE
17:41about the situation in the Middle East yesterday.
17:43What did he have to say?
17:47Well, I think this goes further than the British Embassy.
17:50I think everybody is in agreement that this needs to de-escalate.
17:54Everyone is in agreement that also we need to make sure that there's no further regional conflict
17:59and also global disruption.
18:01As you mentioned, the U.K., the British ambassador to the UAE is Ed Hobart.
18:06I sat down with him for an exclusive interview with Euronews.
18:10As he told me about the U.K.'s stance on the war, he did also emphasise that there still is
18:16a risk
18:17for escalation, unfortunately, here in the Middle East.
18:20The Prime Minister has been very clear that this wasn't the U.K.'s war.
18:25It wasn't something we wanted to take place.
18:28But particularly in defence of the Gulf countries, we have enabled the U.S. to help support that defence
18:37through the use of British military bases in the U.K. and elsewhere.
18:43In terms of the Straits of Hormuz, what we want is the law of the sea to be followed
18:49and for these international thoroughfares which are critical to the global economy,
18:54not just to the economy here, not just the economy in Europe,
18:57but actually in particular the economy in the Far East to be open and flowing.
19:02So we don't want blockades.
19:05We don't want Iran or others causing danger to merchant shipping in this region.
19:15That was the U.K. ambassador to the UAE.
19:18And thank you so much, Shane, for that update from Dubai.
19:20But that's all we have time for for today.
19:23Thank you so much for tuning in to Europe today.
19:25We'll be back with more news and more analysis at the same time, same place tomorrow morning.
19:30We hope to see you then and we'll see you very soon here on Euronews.
19:37Here we go.
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