00:01straight to the people we got Rocco out in Novi Rock what's going on buddy
00:07hey how you doing thanks for taking my call yes sir so I just want to talk about two things
00:12one
00:13I'm glad you don't want to talk about players because I actually want to talk big big picture
00:18which is Detroit sports as a whole let's look at the four major sports not being great just being
00:25good playing with house money is all we do in every aspect of the trade deadline whether you're
00:34a Pistons fan you want a shooter by the deadline not going to happen you're a Tigers fan you want
00:40a hitter you want some bullpen help you don't get it when we have school ball you're a Lions player
00:46we need defensive help there's defensive players being thrown out the wazoo and we don't get any
00:52we are in purgatory and the worst part is is we have a GM in Brad Holmes who's a nurturer
01:01which is
01:02the worst thing you can have when you don't want to make a move you're a thousand percent right this
01:08you know what this town would rather do watch other teams make the moves and comment when it doesn't
01:14work because they're too gutless to be the man in the arena none of our GMs are actually serious about
01:19winning a championship none not not one and you know what I don't know who's going to be in the
01:24Super Bowl or or the World Series but I will tell you what in every single one of those games
01:30during
01:31the low time you're going to hear about all the amazing moves that the winning GM and the winning
01:36culture did at the deadline that brought them to that game you hear it every year in the Super Bowl
01:42they made this acquisition right before the deadline now they're here why do we as Detroit
01:48fans I wouldn't even you know what I use the phrase house money it not applicable to Detroit money
01:54because we never use our own money we're always playing for free no and and I mean Rocco I I've
02:00said this before if you disagree go ahead I think the previous decade you know up until let let's say
02:07from call it 2010 to 2020 just as a reference point right even if you said 2012 to 2022 this
02:16was
02:16the worst American sports city with four teams from a winning percentage standpoint it was a calamity
02:22I really think it impacted the psyche of the fan along with the proliferation of propaganda aka bought
02:29and paid for media and the algorithms that people allow to run their lives Rocco people don't think for
02:35themselves no more and I think this town as a whole is just really really scared about not being good
02:40anymore so they don't even worry about being great they're just like oh my god this beats the previous
02:45decade look we're we're relevant I don't hate my life and I don't know Rocco eventually it's going to
02:51make a turn where good won't be good enough eventually well you'd think that but you know what
02:58what's even more mind-boggling not only do I not disagree I'll add on to it during that stretch which
03:04we were non-negotiable the worst winning percentage you've ever seen in for between four different
03:10sports we were selling out stadiums and buying it being you know still filling seats and yeah you
03:18know we had our paper bag era here and there but don't get it twisted Detroit has always been in
03:24attendance it has always shown out for these for these GMs and these and these owners who in return
03:31give us nothing to root for nothing to look forward to nothing to aspire to and it's it's just it's
03:39it's a
03:40it's a it's a disgrace really no it's it just you know what happens Rocco it turns into a waste
03:46of time
03:47that's sadly what it turns into when you feel like you want it more than your teams
03:52that's a waste of time and I'll say this again for the people in the back because this is a
03:57weird
03:57like receipts town you can still win the Super Bowl no one's saying it's impossible but we exist in a
04:04world of did I do everything think of it like when people go to the casino and they play blackjack
04:10even if you played a game appropriately the best you can do is whittle down the house edge
04:15to a mathematical minimum it's never going to be in your favor all right take that to sports
04:21nothing's a guarantee but you can absolutely bend the house you make the right moves you turn this
04:29into a better than a 50 50 proposition nothing's a guarantee look the Dodgers just spent the zillion
04:34dollars they didn't win the World Series yeah you could spend your life hoping you're Milwaukee
04:40a team that went 45 years between appearances or you could beat a man in the arena you can be
04:51the
04:51you can be you know like Walter White you are the one who knocks make the deal you're seeing who
04:57gets
04:57to the Super Bowl I've given you the names the teams the moves it's not me making things up lying
05:04or
05:05yelling can the Lions do it sure they can if Sam Darnold could win a Super Bowl there's hope for
05:11all of us but I'm tired of Brad Holmes not putting us in the best position to do so and
05:17candidly you
05:18know where I stand I don't think you're a Super Bowl team I think you're a good team who shout
05:24out to
05:24cookies I thought it was dumb this summer because it's it's this preemptive thing but he ended up being
05:29right damn it his ego will only get bigger all right Paulie now come on you bastard give me
05:35something good so we don't have the we don't have the overall package yet but the Raiders are trading
05:39Kirk Cousins to the Vikings there you go you don't know what for though yet you know what though guess
05:44what your life just got more difficult all Kirk Cousins has to be is average the Vikings can win 11
05:51-12
05:51games now that move takes the Vikings from being a fraud who won't make the playoffs to a team that
05:59unless he comes here and turns into a pumpkin they're going to be in the mix apparently Jordan
06:07Schultz is saying a third round pick I mean is that a lot it is if I'm the Raiders I
06:15absolutely make
06:15that move if I'm the Vikings I don't feel great about it but you know what the Vikings aren't going
06:20to
06:20do waste that defense and make no mistake no team in football has mismanaged the quarterback position
06:25more over the last three four years you went from Cousins to Darnold to to JJ to just kidding to
06:33Wentz to to Daniel Jones to just kidding to trading McCarthy to Kyler Murray to just kidding to Carson
06:42Wentz like they kind of had to do it and and look they did start six and oh they're doing
06:50what the
06:51Lions are doing they're beating a bunch of garbage and now the Vikings realize we can't be good teams
06:57so to Kirk Cousins thing look I hesitate to add the Vikings to the list of Super Bowl teams but
07:03is that
07:03defense good enough to win a Super Bowl it could be if their offense does anything how about last night
07:11last night that offense ran a total of three plays in the first quarter
07:14Carson Wentz had a single digit QBR the lowest quarterback ranking of the season when eight for 25 for 81
07:21yards
07:23I don't care if you have the 85 Bears the 2000 Ravens the 86 Giants
07:27you never win in that way not when you play real teams
07:32so once again as if you needed anything else in this division to make it more difficult
07:38Kirk Cousins will stabilize the Vikings I will be surprised if they are not able to get to 11 or
07:4312 wins now
07:46that's what that's what you're up against
07:48well David do I have time can I grab one more call please I want to go to Tim 97
07:52-1
07:52Timmy what's good buddy
07:54hey man love you guys the show best on the radio
07:57so how do we know and I don't want to give Brad too much credit
08:01but it seems like we always get football people you know these GMs they obviously know something about football
08:07we get them here and they just get I feel like they're getting handicapped by ownership
08:11is it possible that Sheila came forward and just told him like look you're not spending a bunch of money
08:15I don't care what you want to get
08:17I feel like if she wanted us to get more players we'd go get those players I mean she owns
08:23the team
08:23and I think that the Fords are happy
08:26like you said tickets are selling for astronomical prices
08:29they price you know my family out of it
08:31so uh they're not losing anything here by not getting anybody
08:36people are still going to go to the games
08:38correct
08:38Tim so all right I I'm I'm
08:41this is a very good question
08:44but it's it's not a simple answer so I'll try to do it as quickly as I can
08:49a I I know I don't believe you have an owner that's going to walk into their offices pound the
08:54desk
08:54and be George Steinbrenner and say damn it we're going all in no I don't believe that
08:58okay so that's that pressure is not going to come from there
09:02then you get to
09:04well then why what what stops them
09:06listen I think it's very similar to the sales pitch Scott Harris gave the Tigers
09:10I'll come in we're going to get consistently good
09:13we'll get as many bites at the apple as we can
09:14that's the best way to win a championship and uh it's safe
09:18and that's that's what Brad Holmes is doing
09:21it's very safe to never take a risk
09:24draft develop sign draft develop sign
09:27that's what they do
09:28they don't play big in free agency and they don't play big in the acquisition market
09:33so I I think it's
09:35even the free agents we've got
09:36sorry to interrupt even the free agents that we've got
09:38like when we got Smith you know it was already too late
09:41like we we and the and that guy
09:44he was at the end of his career
09:45we don't we get like
09:46we'll never get somebody we need
09:49we'll just get somebody we can use
09:51yeah and again they're infatuated with their own people
09:56infatuated
09:56so Tim you're not wrong to think the way you think
09:59I just can't sit here authoritatively and tell you you're right
10:03I don't think that's fair of me to do that either
10:072485-399797
10:09nice touch by the way with the draft thing
10:11that's not lost on me
10:13that's very cute by the two of you
10:14that's lovely
