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Europe Today: Crisis en el Tribunal Constitucional polaco con el choque entre Tusk y Nawrocki

El presidente polaco Karol Nawrocki irrumpe en el Tribunal Constitucional para exigir el retorno de la juez conservadora suspendida, mientras el Gobierno de Tusk nombra nuevos jueces y hay choques con manifestantes. Además, los ucranianos afrontan el invierno y la crisis del Ébola.

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00:14Good morning, it's Monday, November the 2nd.
00:17You're watching Euronews and this is Europe Today.
00:21Our top stories.
00:23Poland's long-standing political battle over the judiciary
00:27has reached a new flashpoint after President Karol Navrotsky
00:31forced his way into the Constitutional Tribunal
00:34amid clashes between riot police and anti-government protesters.
00:39Navrotsky and supporters are demanding the reinstatement
00:42of a conservative top judge
00:43whose suspension is backed by Prime Minister Donald Tusk's pro-EU government.
00:49Mass demonstrations in Germany that passed largely peacefully
00:53turned violent as night fell on Saturday
00:55and rioters faced off against police in Frankfurt, Cologne, Hamburg and Berlin.
01:01The protesters demanded better education and lower living costs.
01:05Authorities made arrests and used water cannons to break up the crowds.
01:09Rioters threw molotov cocktails and set of fireworks,
01:13with police maintaining a visible presence
01:15after the streets had emptied on Sunday.
01:18And China has shown no interest in holding a three-way summit
01:23with Russia and the United States on Ukraine.
01:25That's according to German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier
01:29in an interview broadcast last night
01:31following Steinmeier's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing.
01:36China considers Ukraine a purely European affair, Steinmeier said.
01:40The three-way summit was proposed by Vladimir Putin
01:43and had the backing of Donald Trump.
01:46Welcome to the program.
01:47I'm Stefan Grobe.
01:49Poland is facing a deepening constitutional crisis
01:53with the government and the presidency
01:55locked in a bitter battle over who controls the judiciary.
01:59The government under Donald Tusk says
02:01it is restoring the rule of law.
02:04President Karol Nawrowski's camp accuses it
02:07of trying to seize the courts.
02:09So who is really undermining Poland's democracy?
02:12And can this confrontation be resolved
02:14before it spirals further?
02:17We're going to hear from both sides of the issue.
02:20First, I'm joined by Michal Wawrekiewicz,
02:23a member of the European Parliament
02:24for the European People's Party,
02:26the party of Donald Tusk.
02:28Good morning and thanks for coming on.
02:31Good morning.
02:32Thank you for having me.
02:33So we've now seen an extraordinary confrontation
02:37with newly elected judges entering the tribunal,
02:41the president of the court being challenged
02:43and President Karol Nawrowski personally intervening.
02:47Who actually has the legal authority to decide
02:50who sits on the tribunal and who runs it?
02:54We are facing the huge constitutional crisis in Poland,
03:00in the Constitutional Court of Poland,
03:01since 2015, when the Law and Justice Party
03:06started the government and they brutally assaulted
03:11the Constitutional Court.
03:12Since that time, we had a lot of violations
03:17and this situation was challenged by all possible courts,
03:22also European courts, European courts of human rights
03:25and the court of justice.
03:26And they all confirmed that what has happened
03:29in 2015, 2016, and later on,
03:33that was the violation.
03:35Now we are, the government of Donald Tusk
03:38and the majority in the Parliament
03:40and the judges who were elected by the Parliament
03:43are trying to restore the rule of law in the Parliament.
03:47And what we have seen is that
03:52on Friday, newly elected judges
03:56entered the constitutional court
03:58and Judge Anna Korvin-Piotrowska
04:02ordered the suspension of two judges,
04:06the president and the vice president
04:08of the Constitutional Court,
04:10who were appointed by the Law and Justice Party.
04:14So, yeah.
04:15Michal, let me ask you this.
04:17The government says it is restoring judicial independence
04:20after years of political weaponization
04:22under the Law and Justice Party.
04:24But isn't the government now doing exactly
04:27what it accused law and justice of doing,
04:29using political power to reshape the judiciary?
04:33Definitely not.
04:35The government, the majority in the Parliament
04:39and the judges elected by the Parliament
04:41are acting according to the rulings
04:45of the European courts,
04:46of the Court of Justice
04:47and the European Court of Human Rights,
04:49according to what Venice Commission confirmed
04:52just two weeks ago,
04:53and according to the interim measure
04:55which was issued on the 5th of May this year,
04:59allowing these judges to enter
05:01the constitutional court.
05:02They were blocked by the president
05:04and the vice president of the court.
05:06And that's why Judge Anna Korvin-Piotrowska
05:10decided to suspend these two judges,
05:14the president and the vice president of the court.
05:15And that is what happened on Friday.
05:18And later on in the night,
05:20what we have seen was the brutal assault
05:24of the president of the republic
05:25who entered, using force,
05:28entered the building of the constitutional court
05:31and using the force,
05:33almost damaged the judges
05:36standing in front of the court.
05:38So this is what we have seen.
05:40That was the brutal assault
05:42of the president of the republic
05:43on the independence
05:44of the constitutional court.
05:46So the European Commission says
05:48the same, the parliament,
05:50has the constitutional power
05:52to appoint judges
05:53to the constitutional tribunal.
05:55Does that settle the argument?
05:57Yes, definitely.
05:58The only competent authority in Poland
06:02to appoint judges
06:04of the constitutional court
06:05is the parliament,
06:06the lower chamber of the parliament
06:08in Poland.
06:09The president does not have any competences
06:13to appoint judges.
06:15That's why the only right
06:17is on the side of the parliament
06:19and the government
06:20and the judges
06:21who were elected properly
06:22by the parliament.
06:23So we are facing
06:24the enforcement of law,
06:28the restoring of the rule of law
06:29and independence
06:30of this most important
06:32constitutional court in Poland.
06:35And what is the concrete way
06:37out of this crisis now?
06:38And what would it take
06:39to secure some sort of
06:41cross-party recognition
06:42of the tribunal?
06:44Well, the consistency
06:45of all of the actions
06:47in the next days,
06:49in the future.
06:50Tomorrow, there is an assembly,
06:53general assembly,
06:54of all judges
06:55of the constitutional court
06:56and they will decide
06:58upon the future
06:59of the constitutional court.
07:01This is the only competent body
07:02in the constitutional court
07:04to decide about the future
07:07and of the constitutional court,
07:10of the judges
07:10and of the suspended
07:13president and vice president
07:15of the court.
07:16If Tusk and Nawrotsky
07:18refuse to back down,
07:20who actually has the power
07:21to stop this crisis?
07:24Well, this crisis,
07:26as I said,
07:27started back in 2015.
07:29And this year,
07:31President Nawrotsky,
07:32who is trying to block
07:33all of the restoration
07:35of the rule of law,
07:36all of the implementation
07:37of the rulings
07:38of the European courts,
07:40which is the most important
07:41because these rulings
07:43are drawing the roadmap
07:46how to get out of the crisis.
07:49But President Nawrotsky
07:50needs and wants
07:52to keep the power
07:54of his political camp
07:56over the constitutional court.
07:58So this is the fault
08:00of President Nawrotsky
08:01and his camp
08:02that they don't want
08:04to restore the rule of law.
08:05They want to keep
08:06the political power
08:07over the constitutional court.
08:09That was the politically
08:11manipulated theater
08:13of puppets
08:13for 10 years
08:14and they want to keep it.
08:17This is quite
08:18an extraordinary crisis.
08:20I can't remember
08:21anything like it
08:22in any other EU country.
08:24Are you worried
08:25that this story
08:27sort of harms
08:28the international,
08:29the European reputation
08:30of Poland?
08:33Our European friends
08:34deeply understand
08:36the situation in Poland
08:38because they are facing
08:40this situation
08:40for many years
08:42and this situation
08:43and also in other parts
08:45of the judiciary
08:46was discussed,
08:47debated in the parliament
08:48and other institutions
08:50of the European Union
08:51many times.
08:53So I truly believe
08:54that they understand
08:55the situation
08:56and they understand
08:57that the government
08:58of Donald Tusk
08:59is trying to restore,
09:01rebuild
09:02the rule of law
09:04in Poland
09:05and we will be
09:06fully consistent
09:07in that way
09:08and I believe
09:10we will do that.
09:11You are right
09:12that this is
09:12unprecedented situation
09:14not only in Poland
09:15but in the whole Europe.
09:16Never happened before
09:17but we are
09:19where we are
09:20and we need to act
09:21on the battlefield
09:22where we are.
09:24All right,
09:25Michal Wawrejkiewicz,
09:26member of the
09:27European People's Party
09:28in the European Parliament.
09:29Thank you very much.
09:30Now I want to hear
09:31from the other side
09:33of the issue
09:33and to do this
09:34Polish Secretary of State
09:35and advisor
09:36to President Nawrowski
09:37Maciej Pszedacz
09:39joins us now.
09:40Good morning to you.
09:42Good morning,
09:43very good morning.
09:44Hello, sir.
09:45So the government
09:45says it is trying
09:46to restore
09:47the tribunal's independence
09:48after years
09:49of political interference.
09:51President Nawrowski
09:52says the government
09:52is trying to take
09:53control of the court.
09:54Which side
09:55is defending
09:56the constitution?
09:58Well,
09:59definitely restoring
10:01any kind of
10:01rule of law
10:02which the government
10:05claims
10:05should not be done
10:07by the
10:083,000 riot police
10:09entering
10:10the premises
10:11of the
10:12constitutional tribunal.
10:13And that is
10:14what happened
10:15in the evening
10:16of Friday
10:17when people
10:19in Poland
10:19were heading
10:21towards their
10:22families
10:22out of Warsaw
10:23for the
10:24All Saints Day.
10:25It was a very
10:26quiet
10:27in the capital
10:28of Poland
10:29evening.
10:30President was
10:31on his way
10:31to Senegal
10:32and suddenly
10:33we learned
10:33that
10:34Prime Minister Tusk
10:36sent
10:373,000
10:38riot police
10:39troops
10:40in order
10:41to,
10:42as they say,
10:43clean
10:43the constitutional
10:44tribunal
10:45without
10:46any
10:47legal
10:47basis
10:48for that.
10:49Of course,
10:49there is a
10:50crisis.
10:50Of course,
10:51there is a
10:51dispute
10:52over that.
10:53But even
10:55the lawyers
10:57who are very
10:58close to the
10:58liberal government
10:59says that
11:00there is
11:01absolutely
11:01no legal
11:02basis
11:02for such
11:03a behavior
11:03of the
11:04government.
11:05What's more,
11:06the president
11:07of the Supreme
11:08Court
11:08and the
11:09president
11:09of the
11:10National
11:10Administrative
11:11Court,
11:11so the
11:12two
11:12most important
11:13judges
11:13in Poland,
11:14they also
11:15said publicly
11:16that there
11:16is absolutely
11:17no legitimate
11:18basis for
11:19such a
11:20behavior of
11:20the government.
11:21So that's
11:22why we are
11:23in such a
11:23crisis now
11:24in Poland.
11:24Sir,
11:25we all
11:26saw the
11:27scenes
11:27where
11:28President
11:29Nawrowski
11:29entered
11:29the
11:30building,
11:30the
11:30tribunal
11:31building.
11:32Critics
11:32described
11:33the visit
11:34as a
11:34PR stunt
11:35to exert
11:36pressure
11:36on the
11:37court.
11:37Why did
11:38the president
11:38decide to
11:40intervene
11:40in person
11:41and what
11:41exactly
11:41was he
11:42trying to
11:42achieve?
11:44Well,
11:45according to
11:45the Polish
11:46Constitution,
11:47the president
11:48of the
11:48Republic of
11:49Poland is
11:49the guard
11:50of the
11:51Constitution.
11:52So whenever
11:52he sees
11:53that the
11:54Constitution
11:54is violated,
11:55he is
11:56obliged to
11:57react.
11:58But before
11:58going to
11:59the tribunal,
12:00he went to
12:01his own
12:01palace,
12:02invited the
12:03president of
12:04the Supreme
12:04Court in
12:05order to
12:06learn his
12:07perspective,
12:07in order to
12:08learn an
12:09expertise on
12:10that.
12:10What's going
12:11on and how
12:11should he
12:12treat that?
12:13The president
12:13is the head
12:14of state
12:14with a
12:16very strong
12:16strong,
12:19he is a
12:20legitimized
12:20leader,
12:21I mean,
12:21with a very
12:22strong mandate.
12:23More than
12:2410 million
12:25people voted
12:25directly for
12:26him,
12:26but he
12:27wanted to
12:27learn the
12:28perspective of
12:29the legal
12:30perspective.
12:31After learning
12:32that it's
12:34all illegal,
12:35he went
12:35there in
12:36order to
12:37first learn
12:37on the
12:38basis what's
12:39going on
12:39there,
12:40the second
12:40to help
12:41the legitimate
12:42president and
12:43the deputy
12:44president of
12:45the tribunal
12:46enter the
12:47building in
12:48order to
12:48restore the
12:49order.
12:50Unfortunately,
12:51he was
12:51blocked by
12:53those appointees
12:55of Prime
12:55Minister Tusk
12:58who are
12:58claiming that
12:59there are
12:59judges,
13:00but as
13:00Prime Minister
13:01Tusk publicly
13:02said,
13:03these are
13:04his judges.
13:05So Prime
13:06Minister Tusk
13:06says,
13:07these are
13:07my judges.
13:08We believe
13:09that there
13:09shouldn't be
13:10any my,
13:11his,
13:11or their
13:12judges,
13:13there should
13:13be legitimate
13:14legal judges,
13:16not Tusk's
13:16judges.
13:17Okay,
13:17so are
13:18President
13:18Nowrowski
13:19and Prime
13:19Minister Tusk
13:19now effectively
13:20fighting a
13:21constitutional war?
13:24Well,
13:25as I said,
13:26there is a
13:26constitutional
13:27crisis,
13:28definitely,
13:29and the
13:29people of
13:30Poland
13:31gathered in
13:32front of the
13:32tribunal
13:33protesting
13:33against that
13:35kind of
13:35situation,
13:36mostly protesting,
13:37of course,
13:38against the
13:38entrance of
13:39police.
13:40they do,
13:42there are
13:43evidence that
13:44there is a
13:45crisis.
13:46What
13:46President
13:46Nowrowski
13:47said and
13:48did after
13:48that,
13:49he invited
13:50all the
13:50political
13:51parties to
13:51the palace
13:52in order
13:53to talk,
13:53because we
13:54believe that
13:54in democracy
13:55it is the
13:56dialogue which
13:56may solve
13:57the crisis.
13:59The problem
14:00is that
14:00Prime Minister
14:01Tusk
14:02was not
14:04eager to
14:05really talk,
14:06he just
14:08issued his
14:09statement
14:10through the
14:11public
14:11television
14:12saying that
14:13he will
14:14not step
14:14back from
14:15that and
14:16he will
14:16only keep
14:17the police
14:19there in
14:19the
14:20constitutional
14:20tribunal.
14:21So all the
14:22other parties
14:22are very much
14:23eager to
14:24talk and
14:24to consult
14:25and there
14:26is one
14:26main message
14:27coming from
14:28all the
14:28parties,
14:29it cannot
14:29be like
14:30this.
14:30There is
14:31a need
14:31for any
14:31kind of
14:32restart of
14:33a situation.
14:34So we
14:35do believe
14:35that based
14:36on that
14:37we will
14:37build
14:37something
14:38positive.
14:39Alright,
14:39Polish Secretary
14:40of State
14:40and Presidential
14:41Advisor
14:42Marcin
14:42Pschedasz,
14:43thank you
14:44very much
14:44this morning.
14:46Almost
14:475,000
14:47dead,
14:48more than
14:4810,000
14:49infected.
14:50The Ebola
14:51epidemic in
14:51the Democratic
14:52Republic of
14:53Congo is
14:53escalating,
14:54yet the
14:55international
14:56response is
14:56struggling to
14:57keep pace.
14:58The Elders,
14:59a group of
15:00former world
15:00leaders founded
15:01by Nelson
15:02Mandela,
15:02are demanding
15:03urgent action.
15:05Earlier I
15:05spoke to
15:06one of
15:06their most
15:06influential
15:07personalities,
15:08former Irish
15:09President Mary
15:09Robinson,
15:10and I
15:11started by
15:11asking her
15:12whether we're
15:13witnessing a
15:13global health
15:14emergency that
15:15the world is
15:16simply choosing
15:16to ignore.
15:18Here's what
15:18she said.
15:19It's really
15:20tragic what's
15:21happening because
15:22this is the
15:23fastest moving
15:24Ebola,
15:2510,000 cases
15:26and about
15:2750% mortality,
15:29which means
15:29more than
15:305,000 people
15:31have died.
15:32But worse
15:32than that,
15:33they're not
15:34able to
15:35follow up
15:35on the
15:35contacts
15:36because of
15:37the situation
15:38in the
15:39Democratic
15:39Republic of
15:40Congo.
15:40Of course,
15:40I know it
15:41well from
15:41my time as
15:42mediator for
15:43the Great
15:43Lakes in
15:43Africa,
15:44for the
15:45UN,
15:45and there's
15:46an urgent
15:47need for
15:48resources to
15:50help with
15:51contacts,
15:51to help the
15:52health workers,
15:53the frontline
15:53health workers,
15:54and to help
15:55with humanitarian
15:55access,
15:56etc.
15:57It has now
15:59spread.
15:59There are some
16:00cases also in
16:01Kenya,
16:02in Uganda,
16:03in Nigeria,
16:04and France.
16:04So it is
16:05very dangerous
16:07because of
16:07the fact that
16:09they are not
16:10able to trace
16:10the contacts,
16:11and much less
16:12than in the
16:13Ebola in
16:132014, for
16:14example, and
16:15this is very
16:16worrying.
16:17So the
16:18elders are
16:19calling for
16:19more international
16:20action.
16:21What exactly
16:22are you
16:22demanding?
16:23Is it more
16:23money, more
16:24medical
16:25personnel, or a
16:27totally different
16:28international
16:28approach to
16:29this crisis?
16:30We're so
16:31worried that
16:32we actually
16:32wrote an
16:34open letter
16:35to the
16:36G20, because
16:373 billion
16:38euros was
16:39pledged, but
16:40only a
16:41billion is
16:42being released,
16:43and of course
16:44the G20
16:44includes members
16:46of the EU.
16:47So we ask
16:48for the release
16:49of the funds
16:50that were
16:50pledged and
16:51are needed
16:51really urgently,
16:52and this
16:53should include
16:54specific funds
16:55to protect,
16:56pay, and
16:56support health
16:57workers,
16:58and community
16:59leaders for
17:00village centres
17:00responses to
17:01the front
17:02line, and
17:03funds for
17:03humanitarian
17:04early recovery
17:05needs.
17:06It also
17:06calls for
17:07guaranteed fair
17:08access to
17:09approved vaccines
17:10and treatment
17:11for priority
17:12groups, first
17:13to counter
17:13mutation
17:14risks, because
17:16there is a
17:16mutation risk
17:17apparently,
17:18particularly in
17:18the DRC,
17:19and address
17:21the security
17:22dimension of
17:23the crisis
17:23by pressurising
17:24armed groups
17:25in the DRC
17:26and neighbouring
17:27countries with
17:28influence to
17:29allow safe
17:29access for
17:30health and
17:31humanitarian
17:32workers.
17:32They're the
17:32main calls
17:34that we make
17:35in that open
17:36letter.
17:37It was really
17:38very worrying,
17:39as I said,
17:40to see how
17:41quickly this is
17:42spreading,
17:42how high the
17:44mortality rate is,
17:45and only a
17:48billion of the
17:48three billion
17:49pledged has
17:50actually been
17:50released to
17:51address it.
17:52So you've
17:53been a
17:54leading
17:54international
17:54voice for
17:55human rights
17:56and
17:56international
17:57global
17:58justice.
17:59This is
18:00kind of a
18:01tough question.
18:02Is the
18:02impression
18:03right that
18:04the international
18:05community
18:06treats African
18:07lives as
18:08less valuable
18:09than European
18:10and American
18:10lives?
18:11I'm afraid
18:12it is a
18:12tough question,
18:13but you
18:15have to
18:15feel that
18:16the lives
18:17of those
18:17who are
18:18invisible to
18:19us,
18:19they're poor,
18:21they live in
18:21remote areas
18:22that are
18:23under
18:24difficulty of
18:25militias and
18:26armed groups,
18:26and we don't
18:27care enough.
18:28We don't care
18:29enough.
18:29That's true.
18:30And are
18:31Western
18:31governments
18:32guilty of
18:33complacency
18:34here,
18:34or are they
18:35simply overwhelmed
18:36by the
18:37magnitude of
18:38the crisis
18:39and shrinking
18:40aid budgets?
18:42I think
18:42there are
18:43a number
18:43of factors
18:44that distract
18:45governments,
18:46but the
18:46point we're
18:47making is
18:47this is
18:48dangerous.
18:49If you
18:50have a
18:51highly
18:51communicable
18:52disease and
18:53you're not
18:54able to
18:54trace the
18:55contacts because
18:56you don't
18:56have the
18:56resources to
18:57do it,
18:57it will
18:58spread further,
18:59and this
18:59could be
19:00really serious,
19:00particularly for
19:01African countries,
19:02but then it
19:02will spread to
19:03Europe.
19:06Former
19:07Irish
19:07President
19:07Mary Robinson
19:08on the
19:09growing
19:09Ebola
19:09crisis in
19:10Africa.
19:12More news
19:12today on
19:13all our
19:14platforms until
19:16we see each
19:16other again
19:17tomorrow.
19:18That's it for
19:18today.
19:19I thank you
19:19for watching.
19:20I'm Stefan
19:21Grobe.
19:21Take care.
19:37coach.
19:42Bye.
19:44Bye.
19:53Bye.
19:56Gracias por ver el video.

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