00:04In many of these films there are women who are really imposed upon and are
00:10really a part of everyday combat but they're not characterized as strong
00:16because they have to face these things. They're just kind of like made to suffer.
00:21Especially if you go back to the ones that are from the 70s. They're kind of
00:27really developing the language to talk about all these things and this expansive
00:31way of thinking about how to be in the world and what's possible for you that's really inspiring.
00:40My laundry problem started many many years ago. I guess when I first got married.
00:46One of the things in the series is it's all women who are making the films and the very idea
00:51that you
00:52want to hear what all sorts of women feel about laundry. You're already sort of saying this is
00:59interesting. In clotheslines it's Roberta Canto who's able to kind of frame it as like folk art
01:05the way the people hang them. First of all there was a particular art about hanging your clothes on
01:12the line and everybody had clotheslines and you looked at your neighbor's clothes. You really did
01:20and you sort of measured her that way. When I look at other women's clotheslines I want to know more
01:25about them. There's aesthetics to it that communicates a lot between households and communicates a lot
01:31from a woman about what she wants to present to the world but also the thing that's so interesting is
01:36that all of the information about it is transmitted from mother to daughter. Yeah. And it's really made
01:41at this moment where people are getting washing machines and like this whole body of human
01:47knowledge of how to do the laundry just becomes kind of obsolete. But these women have so much
01:52wrapped into it. Your whole identity is framed over what your laundry looks like. Like knowing that
01:57that's important and being able to capture that I think is so amazing because you learn so much about
02:02the women. Yeah. And so much about their lives through the prism of laundry. You can't tell me she
02:07don't have a boyfriend. I look she has black bras on the line and black underwear. She didn't buy them
02:12for my son. She's fooling around with somebody. And that's how you could always tell. Even though the
02:18art of hanging your laundry out is gone the way to size up other women is not. At you know
02:25almost 38 years
02:26old like I still continue to kind of like pull out that misogyny from myself. My mother was born in
02:341950
02:35she said things about other women that could have might as well have been about the the clothesline and
02:42it's not that she's a cruel person but that there is a transmitted way of like surviving in patriarchy.
