LeBron Wins 76ers Debut, Julian Sayin OUT, David Pollack Talks Arch Manning

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00:00:01What is going on everybody? It is Wednesday here on Wake Up Barstool and once again guys we got a

00:00:08lot to get to as LeBron debuts in Philly and what a debut it was for the Sixers Quartet plus

00:00:16the latest on Jalen Hurts, the NFL PA getting involved.

00:00:20The NFL, some Eagles are okay here. We got Brandon's Heisman favorites which could have changed due to some major

00:00:28injuries that we now have news on. We got a World Series preview which Dumb Evo is going to try

00:00:33to do so it's going to be a great show today. Everybody log in. Wake Up Barstool starts now on

00:00:39FS1.

00:01:00I'll go home right now. I'm sorry. I'll go home right now. I'll get two extra hours of sleep. I

00:01:06don't get paid. I'm not going anywhere. I'm here as a favor to you. Okay that's crazy. No no no

00:01:13okay. Like I want to apologize. I want to be nice and you say some crap like that and that's

00:01:18crazy.

00:01:18These two have been going at it for the past 10 minutes before the show. Don't look at my contract.

00:01:22It's very uncomfortable. It started as a friendly little debate. Forget who has the power in the social sphere. Nintendo

00:01:30and Kyle Shanahan and it spun out from there. Evo okay let's make peace here for a second. We got

00:01:35a lot to get to. We got Cody here looking cool as hell. Behind the desk tiny as hell with

00:01:41that giant laptop but cool nonetheless. Brandon Walker and then the man of the hour.

00:01:47He's got the jersey on. What a debut it was. So much hype over the offseason Connor and already I

00:01:55walk in here and the producers are writing questions like is this the best quartet that we've seen in NBA

00:02:02history.

00:02:02Yeah well I also saw some other questions on the the rest of the docket today that I was a

00:02:07little bit concerned about on the flip side of things. But hey it's great the people are talking about the

00:02:11Philadelphia 76ers and this was a beautiful night last night spoiling the ring night.

00:02:16A team with no chemistry a team a lot of people question who's going to be taking that last shot.

00:02:21How is this team going to work. It's just too many names too many guys and they looked amazing last

00:02:26night. Not the best shooting night but the way they're moving the ball the way they're playing defense specifically. It's

00:02:32a different type of energy a different type of vibe that I can't describe. I got choked up watching the

00:02:37game last night.

00:02:38No you didn't. Yes I did. Yes I did. I could not believe. You got choked up? Listen. You're lying.

00:02:44I was watching a Sixers team 10 years ago. Robert Covington, Rashawn Holmes. Who cares?

00:02:50Dario Saric. Guys you got to stop talking about the process. We went through the process. Stop. We went through

00:02:57a GM with burner accounts. You're still in the process.

00:03:00Trashing players on the team. You have a good basketball team. We went through people holding our team hot. We

00:03:05went through Tobias Harris. And now we have this beautiful quartet.

00:03:09And Vijay Edgecombe who did not have a stellar game last night. He's going to find his role. But this

00:03:14team just has a dog mentality. LeBron's chirping people in MSG. It was great to see. That was awesome to

00:03:19see.

00:03:20Somebody accused LeBron and MSG being from the West Coast and I'm an Ohio boy. I'm from the Midwest. F

00:03:25you talking about?

00:03:26Yeah it was so good. Brandon. He was kind of goofing off was he not? He was goofing off. I

00:03:30feel like I feel like he I feel like LeBron was able to impact the game while like goofing off.

00:03:36It felt like he was playing like a like a former player a celebrity all-star game. Yeah. Where they're

00:03:40like they could still get like 35 points in the game. They're just like dapping up fans like eating popcorn

00:03:46out of the front row.

00:03:47I just say it's not a serious environment. Like there was they they had the banner night. They had all

00:03:51the things. But it's just it's been stiller. It's Spike Lee in the craziest suit you've ever seen. Like it's

00:03:56it's just it's Hollywood out there. And it's just they're all out there to have fun and be seen.

00:04:01Well. And they watched the banner and that's great. And the next one title. But like I don't think that's

00:04:05like a midseason we're in a tough environment game. That's not like in in Boston and in you know in

00:04:11the playoffs.

00:04:11I get what you're saying. And I think there's definitely an element of there. But comfortable with all people around.

00:04:16Well but to Ebo's point like it is a testament to this insane career that LeBron has had because for

00:04:21some guys last night those minutes are the most important minutes of their entire lives.

00:04:26Right. Or they're trying to prove they can belong in the NBA. They're trying to show this that LeBron's been

00:04:31at this for so long that it's like like he was at it's like it's like an invitational or like

00:04:36like a rec league game because he's just been so good for so long.

00:04:39Well it's also he was doing it all last night. Like he's facilitating the offense. There was a one point

00:04:45defensively in the second half. He was guarding the five.

00:04:48Yeah. He could just play any position. He could do whatever. There's an entire ESPN article today about the play

00:04:52of the game him guarding cat. They try the cross court pass get stolen game in.

00:04:56So that's the big story here. The 76ers have at worst the second best player of all time being an

00:05:03elite role player for them right now. Yes. He is playing a role. He's going to facilitate the ball. He's

00:05:08going to make the smart decision at all times. That's what he's done for 24 years. He always makes a

00:05:12smart decision. Now he's on a team where the smart decision is all around him. It's it's either making a

00:05:17pass to Embiid or making a pass to Jalen Brown or doing whatever.

00:05:20Like he is a brilliant basketball player. Yeah. He's always scored 30 points a game because that was the role

00:05:26that he needed to play. And but now he can play the ultimate.

00:05:30I will be the glue that holds this team together from a basketball perspective. Yeah. Brandon, I think you had

00:05:34the nail on the head. Like if if this team can kill ego. Right. If they can defeat ego, then

00:05:41how and this is going to be hyperbolic.

00:05:44But why not? It's game one. Let's overreact. How do you defend them? Right. Because they've got the small slashing

00:05:50guard play good shooting out of Max. OK, let's say he's having an off night.

00:05:54They have Jalen Brown, who's that lengthy wing that defined the NBA for like an entire decade. OK, he's having

00:06:01an off night for themselves. Yeah. He's OK. Well, then you got Embiid, who's a classic big man, but can

00:06:07now space the floor.

00:06:08Or like and then, as Brandon alluded to, you have the single smartest player, arguably. Well, no, not arguably the

00:06:14smartest in the NBA right now.

00:06:16One of the smartest of all time. It looks really good. Well, if they can continue to work together like

00:06:22last game, one of 82 will Joel Embiid be OK in March scoring 13 points a game.

00:06:27I doubt it. That's what I mean. I doubt Jalen Brown came here to score 19 points a game.

00:06:31We scored 26 last year. Like they will have to face some egos along the way.

00:06:37And I did think they did a good job last night of a couple of times like Tyrese Maxey was

00:06:43the was the driver of the car for most of the night.

00:06:45Yes. But every now and then he would pull over and say, Jalen Brown, you drive the car for four

00:06:49minutes or Joel Embiid, you drive the car for three or four minutes.

00:06:52Like they would do that in stretches where they ran the offense through certain guys.

00:06:57And they're going to have to do that a lot, probably. Very important aspect of a long road trip is

00:07:02multiple drivers.

00:07:04Yeah, true. Could the Knicks have lost? Could the Knicks have lost 100 to nothing last night and their fans

00:07:10have gone home happy?

00:07:11I think it was the rare thing. I was thinking about the barstool group that went like it was Che.

00:07:15It was Max. Max, the Sixers fan, Che, the Knicks fan, Zach, the Knicks fan, Mims, the Knicks fan.

00:07:20And they all saw what they wanted to, right? Yeah. Last night, right? Everybody came out there happy because the

00:07:25Knicks fans saw the ring, saw the banner, saw all the pomp and circumstance, saw everything that was amazing.

00:07:30And the Sixers saw their team be better than the Knicks. We should talk about the ring, too.

00:07:34In a day and age where rings get more and more gaudy and more and more over the top, I

00:07:40think they actually hit a pretty sweet middle ground here.

00:07:43You didn't think this was gaudy? It is. Sorry. It is gaudy. But something about it doesn't have a light

00:07:49show, does it?

00:07:49Something about it works for me. I love the little pop-up top that's a Madison Square Garden exterior. You

00:07:55see it right here.

00:07:55You said in the world of gaudy rings, this one's a middle ground? Wait, it does that?

00:08:00This is the gaudiest thing of all time. It does that? I think, yeah. Wait, you haven't seen that? And

00:08:04then you watch.

00:08:04It does have a light show. It's got the MSG lower bowl right there inside the ring.

00:08:11But when it's closed up, it doesn't look as insane. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

00:08:15You can play basketball inside the ring? It even has the roof.

00:08:18The ants can play basketball? That's the gaudiest ring of all time.

00:08:21Yeah, maybe. Maybe it was a poor choice of words. I guess I think that it works for me. It

00:08:25doesn't look, um...

00:08:27Because it kind of looks traditional when you just glance at it, but it's got these kind of well-done,

00:08:34hidden secrets and call-outs.

00:08:37It's a good ring. It's a good ring.

00:08:38That's she on the outside, by the way. The first time you see it, it's like the most underwhelming thing,

00:08:42I think.

00:08:42It kind of looks like an 80s...

00:08:44Have you ever seen Rupp Arena?

00:08:46I've never seen Rupp Arena.

00:08:47Rupp Arena in Kentucky. You're like, that's Rupp Arena?

00:08:50But anyway, yes. Madison Square Garden doesn't strike... In a city where everything strikes you, Madison Square Garden doesn't.

00:08:58Just like a... Yeah.

00:08:59So, congrats to the Sixers. An excellent debut for the quartet on night number one.

00:09:04The other big story of the day...

00:09:06Top break for Vijay Edgecombe.

00:09:07Celtics?

00:09:07I'm calling it a quartet.

00:09:08Paul George debut?

00:09:10Yeah, I mean, it is a quartet. He'll have to earn his way into the quintet.

00:09:13He had some big-time buckets late in the game yesterday.

00:09:16Oh, so you think it should be a quintet?

00:09:18Yeah, I think so. Eventually, it will be, but yeah, they just got to...

00:09:21I also think...

00:09:22They don't have their chemistry nailed down just yet.

00:09:24I also think we're focused... I mean, listen, I understand you bring in LeBron and you bring in Jalen Brown.

00:09:28Like, their second unit's pretty good.

00:09:31Like, I think Simons is a fantastic second unit guard.

00:09:34I think KCP... It was KCP?

00:09:36Yeah.

00:09:36He's a fantastic second unit player.

00:09:39Dean Wade wasn't even playing last night.

00:09:41That was another big-time acquisition, so watch out.

00:09:43Now, they did let... They let...

00:09:45Andre Drummond just cook them for a while.

00:09:48All right, let's get to the other big game of the day, though.

00:09:50The Thunders roll the Spurs in a Western Conference Finals rematch,

00:09:54and a lot is made of Wimby, rightfully so.

00:09:58Wimby did not have a good game.

00:10:01Now, everybody's saying, you know, they drafted Maura, they drafted the Wimby stopper,

00:10:04and he had the highlight where he blocks Wimby on one edge of the court,

00:10:08and then he comes all the way, he dunks it on the other.

00:10:10However, I think Chet Holmgren's kind of not getting a lot of credit for being the primary defender on Wimby

00:10:16all night.

00:10:16Think about it.

00:10:17Holmgren had to sit with that Game 7 performance all offseason.

00:10:21Yeah.

00:10:21And, you know, it's a lukewarm, tepid revenge, but at least for this opening night,

00:10:28him and his team were able to extract a little bit of it.

00:10:31I think if you're the Spurs, you kind of have to be happy with the fact that your superstar, like,

00:10:37went one for 13 from the field, and you still battled throughout the game,

00:10:41like you made a surge in the third quarter.

00:10:43I mean, to still have an impact on a game where you go one of 13 from the field is

00:10:48a very unique skill set to have.

00:10:50To be able to block six shots, to deter shots at the rim,

00:10:54I think the Spurs walk away from this being like, I think we're fine.

00:10:58I think this game signals a great return to the NBA.

00:11:03These two teams absolutely detest each other.

00:11:06Yeah.

00:11:07They hate each other.

00:11:08They're scrapping in game one of the entire season.

00:11:10Like, I feel like the buddy-buddy era of NBA basketball might be fading away in front of our very

00:11:17eyes.

00:11:18As these two teams, and if you saw the Pistons and Celtics, they were a little scrappy yesterday.

00:11:22The buddy-buddy era might be a little bit done because these teams are going to play a lot

00:11:27in the regular season and the playoffs, and they can't stand each other.

00:11:30Here's what Wimby had to say after the game on his struggles.

00:11:33I need to go back to playing the basketball I like.

00:11:37You know, it's kind of weird.

00:11:40I don't like, this is not the sport I like right here, so I got no reason to be hesitant,

00:11:46no reason to not be myself.

00:11:49What is it like?

00:11:51For me, it's as simple as that.

00:11:52I'm good when I have fun.

00:11:53Kind of a weird thing to say night one, because it almost feels like you're saying that they've

00:11:57been trying to, like, neuter me during camp, right?

00:12:00Like, I don't like this.

00:12:01I, you know, we'll see where it goes.

00:12:03Well, I mean, what does it not like?

00:12:05It's just that he doesn't like losing?

00:12:07Yeah.

00:12:07He's like, yeah, I'd much rather, I like basketball when we're winning.

00:12:10I don't know.

00:12:10Maybe he wants to go, like, through the legs, step back threes, like we were seeing in the

00:12:13finals, or in the finals last year.

00:12:15That's part of the problem, T-Bob, like, you look at all of his shots last night, and

00:12:18yeah, he starts to go off.

00:12:19Yeah, they were shooting on threes.

00:12:200 for 12.

00:12:21He doesn't shoot from the paint.

00:12:23Like, unless he's getting dunks at the rim, so much of his game is outside, and it's crazy

00:12:29for how dominant he can be down low defensively.

00:12:32That does not match on the offensive end, and yeah, offensively, he can kind of be taken

00:12:37out of a game.

00:12:37Like, he's not a force down low, given his size, given his skill set, and it's really

00:12:43odd to see.

00:12:44I also feel like when you're, I mean, when you're seven feet tall and you shoot a three,

00:12:48it has to go in or the possession is over.

00:12:50Yeah.

00:12:50Because you have no rebound anywhere else in the court, especially when you're, if you

00:12:53go with that three-guard lineup they experimented with in the preseason, it's like, you don't

00:12:58have the size to rebound a missed shot, whether you're a seven-foot-eight alien is at half

00:13:05court.

00:13:05Yeah.

00:13:05You have no chance.

00:13:06So you have one possession, basically.

00:13:07Ibo, so we've kind of been at each other this morning.

00:13:10Misery loves company.

00:13:11I think it's time to drag Connor down in the mud with us.

00:13:13He's all happy.

00:13:14That's Paul George trade.

00:13:16He's got his Sixers jersey on.

00:13:18Might be the best game he plays all year, and they waste it.

00:13:19It's not the direction I'm going.

00:13:21Jalen Hurts.

00:13:22Yes.

00:13:22Out for the year.

00:13:23Drama continues.

00:13:25Here's what the NFL had to say, because the NFL PA is on the Eagles' ass right now,

00:13:30Connor.

00:13:30They want a full investigation.

00:13:31The NFL saying, though, the Eagles did everything correct.

00:13:35Well, first of all, we don't have a protocol about this.

00:13:38Again, there are certain things we have protocols on, like concussion and heat and emergency

00:13:41preparedness.

00:13:42We don't.

00:13:43I'll just sum it up by saying that I have complete confidence in the Eagles' medical staff

00:13:47and their handling of this situation, and I would characterize their work as very conservative,

00:13:52very patient-focused, and appropriately guarded at every step.

00:13:56So, the shield defending the shield.

00:13:58The PA says, quote, before conclusions are drawn about how this situation was handled,

00:14:03there must be a full investigation into what occurred.

00:14:06Determining the facts is essential to ensuring players receive the highest level of care and

00:14:11protection going forward.

00:14:13Brandon, it kind of seems like everybody's doing their job here.

00:14:16Yeah, I will say the people online and the Eagles fans that want the medical staff to

00:14:22be fired, Connor, are not doctors at all and are just deciding, they're making themselves

00:14:28experts on exactly how Jalen Hurts should have been handled here when they don't have a clue

00:14:33what they're talking about, Connor.

00:14:35I think this is a fair one to put your hand up and just be like, I got no idea.

00:14:40Yeah.

00:14:41I got no idea who's in the right, who's in the wrong.

00:14:43That's fair.

00:14:43We've seen situations in the past.

00:14:44It sounds crazy.

00:14:45Y'all don't know DVT?

00:14:46It does sound crazy.

00:14:48Like, you can be like, okay, it sounds crazy to tell a guy to not sleep for 36 hours on

00:14:51a flight to London before he plays football.

00:14:53But also, you can be like, I don't know if it's bad.

00:14:56I don't know if it's good.

00:14:57Like, it's...

00:14:57Well, also, the reporting, like, this just takes...

00:15:00We almost need an investigation just to get the story straight.

00:15:02Because the reporting's all over the place.

00:15:04He was told not to sleep.

00:15:05He was told sleep was fine.

00:15:06He was told he needed physical activity.

00:15:07He was told he didn't know physical activity.

00:15:09It's tough to parse.

00:15:11And, to Brandon's point, we're all medieval churchgoers listening to a sermon in Latin.

00:15:17We have no idea what we're talking about.

00:15:19But at the same time, you guys haven't followed the Philadelphia Eagles closely over the years

00:15:23when it comes to the medical staff.

00:15:25There was a lawsuit years ago about how injuries were handled and everything like that.

00:15:30And now this is your franchise quarterback.

00:15:32Yeah, the medical staff...

00:15:33Okay, Connor.

00:15:34What is deep vein thrombosis?

00:15:36I think the problem here is mainly the fact that with Jalen Hurts in this situation,

00:15:42there was a game in London that...

00:15:44I mean, it was just, like, the worst timing possible to have a game overseas

00:15:48where there's a transatlantic flight.

00:15:51They're trying to figure out the status of his injury,

00:15:53whether or not it's a blood clot, whether or not whatever.

00:15:56And yet you're having to fly to London.

00:15:57Like, it was the worst possible time.

00:15:59I feel terrible for him.

00:16:00He had to be hospitalized in London.

00:16:02If it wasn't safe to fly back to the United States with a blood clot,

00:16:07what's the other alternative?

00:16:08He just stays stranded in the UK?

00:16:10Like, it was the worst time.

00:16:12I think the process was sped up for everything.

00:16:14They couldn't properly evaluate it.

00:16:16And it just resulted in this situation where now it's, yeah,

00:16:19escalated to the worst degree.

00:16:21Cody, what is deep vein thrombosis?

00:16:23I feel terrible for Jalen Hurts.

00:16:24You guys will be throwing around words like hypercoagulability

00:16:27and endothelial injuries and stasis of blood flow.

00:16:30It's just like, we don't know what we're talking about.

00:16:31Let the people do their jobs.

00:16:33It's no one's fault.

00:16:34Let's just get to the bottom of this,

00:16:36and let's just ease our expectations and our tempers a little bit, Brandon.

00:16:40A little bit.

00:16:41I will say.

00:16:42Just say, I am not a doctor.

00:16:43I'm not a doctor.

00:16:45I am on a podcast.

00:16:47But, that being said, I'm not a doctor.

00:16:50I am a podcaster.

00:16:51It's absolutely crazy for the Eagles to send Nick Sirianni out there to the Wolves

00:16:56and answer all those questions about medical.

00:16:59Yeah, I agree.

00:16:59It should have been Howie Roseman.

00:17:00It should have been Jeffrey Lurie.

00:17:01It should have been medical.

00:17:02How did we go the whole first segment?

00:17:04All right.

00:17:04Here we go.

00:17:06Here we go, guys.

00:17:08Brandon's Heisman contenders coming up next.

00:17:10Kind of a mischaracterization of what I want to talk about.

00:17:15Welcome back to Wake Up Barstool here on FS1.

00:17:19So, bad news for Ohio State.

00:17:23Julian's saying out for an extended period of time,

00:17:27and the reporting is that Ohio State is planning to move forward

00:17:32as if they will not have him for the rest of the season.

00:17:35He suffered an elbow injury in that win,

00:17:38which becomes a bit of a pyrrhic victory,

00:17:40and the ripple effects are pretty massive.

00:17:43Mainly, or not mainly, but one element,

00:17:45the biggest trophy in college football, the Heisman Trophy,

00:17:48Jeremiah Smith, looking like potentially the leader all year long.

00:17:53Brandon, how does this affect Smith,

00:17:54and how does this affect the Heisman race as a whole?

00:17:57So, obviously, the national championship is the big prize in college football,

00:18:01and this throws that into question mark.

00:18:04This is one of your number one contenders,

00:18:06one of your top three or four contenders,

00:18:07and they have a lot of question marks going forward.

00:18:10Jeremiah Smith, this does two things to his Heisman Trophy,

00:18:13and I don't know which one it is.

00:18:14Yeah.

00:18:15It takes it away because he's not going to be thrown to by a good quarterback,

00:18:18or it even strengthens this case because he is able to carry a young quarterback

00:18:23by himself.

00:18:24Now, I don't know which it's going to be.

00:18:26I know his next two games are against USC and against Oregon.

00:18:29Those are two marquee spots.

00:18:30If he goes out and he has three catches for 29 yards and a touchdown

00:18:35in one of those games and then doesn't affect the other,

00:18:38his Heisman odds really go, I mean, he loses his lead, basically.

00:18:42So, what I want to do, let's operate on the premise

00:18:46that Jeremiah Smith loses his grip on the Heisman due to this injury.

00:18:50Real quick, though.

00:18:51We're operating on that premise.

00:18:52Real quick, though.

00:18:53There is the other hypothetical, though, where he, like you said.

00:18:55We are acknowledging the reality that there could be a world where it strengthens his case.

00:18:59Yes, because he continues to dominate and it's like you're a young quarterback

00:19:03and it's, okay, I don't want to make a decision.

00:19:05I'm just going to feed Smith.

00:19:07But if that doesn't happen.

00:19:09The instructions the young quarterback gets, whether it's St. Clair or Fahey,

00:19:13the instructions he gets are, hey, I'm Ryan Day, I'm your coach,

00:19:16just throw it to four as often as you can and we'll be okay.

00:19:19And if that works and that happens, then he's going to win the Heisman going away.

00:19:23But the premise that we're going to operate under is that it hurts his candidacy

00:19:27and he doesn't play as well because the quarterback position isn't as well.

00:19:30So that opens it up.

00:19:31Now, where do we go?

00:19:32Number one, I think Trinidad Chambliss at plus 650.

00:19:35I have my phone in my hand because I have the DraftKings odds for Heisman Trophy.

00:19:39If they want to put those odds up on the screen, I will drop my phone.

00:19:42But until then, I think Trinidad Chambliss.

00:19:45You look at Trinidad Chambliss.

00:19:46Not only do you have somebody who has been very good,

00:19:53been the best quarterback in the country consistently,

00:19:54but you also have somebody who's going to play Georgia at home,

00:19:58who's going to play Texas,

00:19:59who potentially could play in the SEC championship game,

00:20:02which means marquee spot after marquee spot after marquee spot.

00:20:05And while their defense has improved and they look good against Missouri,

00:20:09their defense has shown the ability to get them in shootouts

00:20:12where he has to win the game.

00:20:14And if he does that, I would say he's my favorite choice on the board at plus 650.

00:20:19There's another one, though.

00:20:21Malachi Tony at plus 22.

00:20:232200, excuse me.

00:20:25Malachi Tony is going to be in that Notre Dame game in a couple of weeks.

00:20:28Darian Mince and Malachi Tony.

00:20:30But Darian Mince is plus 290, whereas Malachi Tony is plus 2200.

00:20:33Okay?

00:20:34So that means $100.

00:20:35If he wins, you win $2,200.

00:20:38Malachi Tony is going to be making huge plays.

00:20:41If you saw the other day against Florida State,

00:20:43he was okay the first three quarters.

00:20:44Then in the fourth quarter, he was excellent.

00:20:46He was incredible.

00:20:47If they go into South Bend and beat Notre Dame,

00:20:49it's because he had a great game.

00:20:51Then they'll have the ACC championship game.

00:20:53I wouldn't be surprised if Malachi Tony makes a big move if Jeremiah Smith were operating under the premise that

00:20:58he falls because of the quarterback.

00:20:59It is interesting because we're talking a lot about how these things can go one of two ways, right?

00:21:05And with Tony in Miami, the easy schedule can maybe prop him up because maybe Chambliss falls in some of

00:21:11these challenges, right?

00:21:12And so Tony in his one test, he passed, and the other ones, okay, that like helps him.

00:21:17But if Chambliss passes the tests, I don't think Tony has enough good opponents to get across the finish line.

00:21:24Even an ACC championship would probably be against Wake Forest.

00:21:28I mean, it could be against anybody.

00:21:29But again, Wake looks really good right now.

00:21:31And even though I love Wake, I love what they're doing.

00:21:34Dickert's awesome.

00:21:34They're doing more with less than anybody in the country.

00:21:36But that's not a game that's going to sway voters one way or another.

00:21:42So I'm going to be intrigued to see Platt.

00:21:44Are there any other names besides?

00:21:45Yeah, I have one.

00:21:46Bring me the odds back up.

00:21:48I have one.

00:21:48Bring the odds back up.

00:21:48I believe it's plus 5,000, maybe 5,500, somewhere in there.

00:21:52Let's look.

00:21:53There he is, plus 5,500.

00:21:56Drew Mestemaker from Oklahoma State.

00:21:58You want to talk about?

00:21:58Way too many letters.

00:21:59Way too many letters.

00:22:00Way too small there.

00:22:01You want to talk about a guy who's going to have a spot coming up.

00:22:05If they were to run the table, right now there's something in two, whatever in two.

00:22:08But if they were to run the table, they would beat Texas Tech at home.

00:22:11Texas Tech, obviously, playoff last year.

00:22:14Big 12 favorite this year.

00:22:15In the top 10.

00:22:16The only way they would beat Texas Tech, who is now getting some pretty good quarterback play

00:22:20and the offense is playing a lot better, is to win in a shootout.

00:22:23Drew Mestemaker, if he were to throw up a 52-45 win, could make a big move,

00:22:29of operating under the premise that Jeremiah Smith loses his lead because of the quarterback.

00:22:33Now, we're talking a lot about guys showing up in the biggest stages.

00:22:37What about a guy who just did that in Bear Bachmeier?

00:22:41If BYU, I feel like right now he's at least getting invited to New York.

00:22:46It's hard for me to see him getting all the way across the finish line.

00:22:49But he's why BYU won.

00:22:52He's why BYU won that one game.

00:22:54If you look over the balance of the year, I don't think he'll have the stats.

00:22:57He's not going to have the gauding numbers.

00:22:58Yeah, and I don't think he'll have the numbers.

00:23:00I don't think he'll have the overall body of work.

00:23:03Sometimes it's okay to be a really good quarterback for a really good team

00:23:06and not be in the Heisman race because I think if you made the whole plane

00:23:10out of that game against Notre Dame, all 12 games, yeah, maybe.

00:23:13But they really haven't done that.

00:23:15He had one game where he threw for 60 yards.

00:23:17They won a football game.

00:23:18He had another where he made a lot of mistakes.

00:23:20They won a football game.

00:23:21So I would say if the question, can BYU QB Bear Bachmeier win the Heisman,

00:23:25the answer is emphatically no.

00:23:27Okay, Cody.

00:23:29Yeah, he can't win because he wears 47.

00:23:31You just can't.

00:23:32See, I think that helps his case.

00:23:34No.

00:23:34It plays so well.

00:23:36You said he doesn't have the gauding numbers.

00:23:37He does, just not on the stat sheet.

00:23:39Top two.

00:23:39I've been thinking a lot about this, and I don't know why.

00:23:42It's only two guys.

00:23:42Top two favorite numbers in sports right now.

00:23:44It's Bachmeier wearing 47, and it's David Bailey wearing 31 for the Jets.

00:23:49I don't know if there's a story behind 31.

00:23:50It's a gross number, but he's playing great.

00:23:52It's absolutely fantastic.

00:23:53You Gen Z kids ruin sports, man.

00:23:55Are you not aware that there's a Mississippi State relief pitcher named Jack Bauer who wears

00:23:59the number 24?

00:24:00No.

00:24:01You should be, because there's a Mississippi State relief pitcher named Jack Bauer who

00:24:05wears the number 24.

00:24:06Oh, wait.

00:24:07Like, yeah, okay, I didn't get it first.

00:24:09I'm an idiot.

00:24:09Shout out, Kiefer Tutherland.

00:24:10His name is Jack Bauer.

00:24:11Yeah.

00:24:12And he wears the number 24.

00:24:13Brandon?

00:24:14I was a little too young for 24.

00:24:15I never watched it back in the day.

00:24:16If Baer Bachmeier wore nine, people would think of him way differently.

00:24:21Or, okay, let's not say nine.

00:24:22Let's say he wore three.

00:24:23Yeah.

00:24:24People would be like, oh, he's a quarterback.

00:24:26No, I know.

00:24:27That's what I'm saying.

00:24:2847 works in his favor because he's old school and he runs and he's tough.

00:24:31I think it hurts his Heisman candidacy because you need to have a coolness factor to you.

00:24:36And I don't know if people think the 47 is cool.

00:24:39I rarely do this.

00:24:40Producers, can I talk to you real quick?

00:24:41Permission to cuss.

00:24:43No.

00:24:44Wait, which word?

00:24:45Which word?

00:24:48Spell it out.

00:24:49I don't give a crap what number Baer Bachmeier wears.

00:24:57Okay, get out of here.

00:24:59Why are y'all discussing it like that?

00:25:01That affects anything.

00:25:02It does.

00:25:02Who gives a damn what he wears?

00:25:05Oh, it does.

00:25:06No, it doesn't.

00:25:07It affects how people do it.

00:25:07Connor, who gives a damn?

00:25:09For sure.

00:25:09All right, listen.

00:25:10I'm not going to say a word that I shouldn't say.

00:25:12You could go ahead, T-Bob.

00:25:13The bottom line is.

00:25:14I'm not saying it's fair.

00:25:15Go to break someone.

00:25:15He wears 47.

00:25:17I'm going to cuss.

00:25:17You know who else wears 47?

00:25:19Yeah, yeah.

00:25:20Andre Karolinko.

00:25:21David Pollack.

00:25:22And he's coming up next here on Wigan Barstool.

00:25:30What's happening, y'all?

00:25:31It is my pleasure to be joined once again by one of our favorite guests.

00:25:36It is David Pollack.

00:25:37See ball, get ball.

00:25:39Great looking man.

00:25:40Intimidating man.

00:25:41Dominating man.

00:25:42Nice man.

00:25:43What's up, David?

00:25:44How are we doing today?

00:25:45Well, I just appreciate you.

00:25:46Brandon, I appreciate the filter before I came on.

00:25:49I know you wanted to drop some serious words, but I appreciate that.

00:25:53It's too early in the morning, dude.

00:25:57All right, David, let's start here.

00:25:59We're going to get to Georgia and everything else, but this is morning sports television,

00:26:04meaning we have to talk Texas and Arch Manning.

00:26:08And I want to pick your defensive mind here because it looks to me like you see a quarterback

00:26:14that is having a bit of the yips.

00:26:16He looks a bit just overwhelmed at this point.

00:26:18Now they're talking about giving one reps to KJ.

00:26:22Love the backup.

00:26:23What do you think?

00:26:24Is Arch Manning at risk of being benched in Texas right now?

00:26:29I mean, he has to be.

00:26:30I mean, it feels a lot like the Bryce Underwood conversation.

00:26:34Like, Bryce, we were talking about that for weeks and weeks, and Kyle Whittingham was

00:26:38kind of dropping it for weeks and weeks, and then it happened.

00:26:41Like, listen, the bottom line with Arch Manning is, for example, look at Gunnar Stockton and

00:26:48where he is.

00:26:50Look at Arch Manning and where he is.

00:26:52Like, we all knew Arch Manning was better, but Gunnar Stockton has developed and gotten

00:26:56better and better and better.

00:26:58Arch Manning has absolutely stayed the same.

00:27:00You know, another thing that I kind of worry about with him, Matt?

00:27:02Does he ever look like he's having fun?

00:27:04No.

00:27:05No, no.

00:27:05Ever.

00:27:06Last year, at the end, when he went on the run last year, was like, he looked at then,

00:27:10but majority of the time, no.

00:27:12Yeah, and listen, he's not playing great, and it's not because of the talent.

00:27:16Like, and I said this all last year, and I'll say it again.

00:27:20Like, this falls a lot on Sark.

00:27:22It's not all on Arch.

00:27:24Like, you're supposed to develop your guy, and he's supposed to know his answers and how

00:27:28to go to one to two to three.

00:27:29And listen, there are guys open, and he does miss guys 100%.

00:27:32But, like, also, I don't think they've done a great job with him making this offense easy.

00:27:38I've seen a lot of places where they've done the offense down, made it easier.

00:27:41And guess what?

00:27:42Arch's legs are really good.

00:27:44Like, he's a really good athlete.

00:27:45So, you could afford to use them more because you brought in high-priced running backs,

00:27:50high-priced receivers, and your return on the investment has been very low.

00:27:54And that's just a fact.

00:27:56Hey, David.

00:27:57Brandon Walker, number one college football media personality in the world, also a renowned

00:28:01cusser.

00:28:02I would like to ask you about the Georgia Bulldogs.

00:28:05Two weeks ago, they go to Tuscaloosa, and the defense looks incredible.

00:28:09And after coming out of Tuscaloosa, I would say, well, there's your national champion.

00:28:12And then the next week, against Auburn, up 14-0, and it all falls apart, and they lose.

00:28:19Anything in that loss?

00:28:20You think that loss is just put aside, and you can move past it pretty quickly?

00:28:23Or did they show you anything to be concerned about as a title contender?

00:28:27Kirby always says humility's a week away.

00:28:29And it was, right?

00:28:31Like, it was, listen, I'm not concerned with Georgia.

00:28:34Like, there's a lot to be concerned with in college football.

00:28:37I've never been at week eight in a season, Brandon.

00:28:39And I know you're the number one guy, so I'm down the list a little bit.

00:28:42But, like, I've never been week eight in a season.

00:28:44And I've never, I don't, if you ask me to put my life on the line for a champion, I

00:28:49have

00:28:49no clue.

00:28:50Like, I literally have no clue.

00:28:52I've never been at this point in all my years of doing this.

00:28:55But here's the thing about Georgia.

00:28:56They lost the turnover battle three to nothing.

00:28:58You don't win those games.

00:29:00You're not even in those games.

00:29:01And the margins have gotten so thin over the years with everybody going to different places

00:29:05and the talent spreading out.

00:29:07I think it was an anomaly.

00:29:09I'm going with an anomaly because Gunnar Stockton doesn't do this.

00:29:11Like, he doesn't turn the football over.

00:29:13He didn't have three on the season, more or less three in one game.

00:29:16And so I think they'll be just fine.

00:29:19And I think you can trust Georgia, their DNA, who they are, to be very much in the mix to

00:29:24be, to win a championship.

00:29:26Well, David, just speaking about teams that can win a championship, the new number one

00:29:29team in the country, the Miami Hurricanes, obviously started the Mario Cristobal era off

00:29:34kind of rough.

00:29:36Things weren't looking so great for the first couple years.

00:29:38And then they win 10 games.

00:29:39Then they go to a national championship.

00:29:41And now they're number one in the country.

00:29:42In a college football world that is so much about immediate results, and you bring a new

00:29:48coach in, and they got to win right away, what can you say about Mario Cristobal and what

00:29:53they built down there in Miami now that you're seeing the results?

00:29:56That wasn't a question about Miami at all, was it?

00:29:58It's a question about Miami.

00:29:59It's a question about Miami.

00:30:00Listen, Miami's in a great spot.

00:30:03And we knew coming into this season, when they got Mensa, like, this was going to go bananas.

00:30:07And we talked about it so much, about how much better he is than Carson Beck.

00:30:11That's not a knock on Carson Beck.

00:30:13Mensa's just that good throwing the football.

00:30:15Sometimes it takes a little time to implement your culture.

00:30:18Here's the thing.

00:30:18I'll be honest.

00:30:19I had doubts about Cristobal.

00:30:21Like, I saw some of the game management flaws.

00:30:24Like, I saw some of the things that I didn't necessarily like.

00:30:27What you got to like about Miami is Miami, first of all, understands one thing more than

00:30:32anything.

00:30:32I better have my QB.

00:30:34We're having a totally different conversation about Miami if they didn't get Mensa.

00:30:38And they struck out on a bunch of guys.

00:30:39But they're like, all right, we're going to write an even bigger check.

00:30:43We have to have a guy that can pull the trigger.

00:30:46They got that taken care of.

00:30:47If I'm Miami, and I think this will be, you look at them with Cam Ward, right, a couple

00:30:52years before that.

00:30:53Like, I think Miami is really ahead of the curve.

00:30:55I would do this.

00:30:56Why am I buying a high school kid that I don't know what they are?

00:31:00Like, if I'm going to drop money, I'm not doing the Bryce Underwood thing, man.

00:31:03Like, I'm going to go find a kid.

00:31:05I'm going to go find a dude that has done it at a high level.

00:31:09Now I'll break the bank.

00:31:10Now I understand exactly what I'm getting.

00:31:12Miami got a dude at quarterback that activated, you know, Tony, that made this offense go to

00:31:18another level.

00:31:19That's smart business, right?

00:31:21That's a great job I do.

00:31:22And then you couple that with Cristobal's toughness and physicality and who they are.

00:31:27Like, that's why they're very much in it if they can get the secondary healthy and fixed

00:31:31up a little bit.

00:31:32David, you're not going to believe this, but online there's a lot of people mad at

00:31:35me for one of my college football takes.

00:31:37They're all in the Big 12, where I said the other day, both on my show, the Brandon Walker

00:31:42College Football Show, and on this show, Monday morning, that I think there needs to be some

00:31:45brake pumping about the Big 12.

00:31:47Right now they have three top ten teams.

00:31:48I think that's a mirage.

00:31:49I think it's fake.

00:31:50I think it's just based on other conferences being tougher to get through.

00:31:54Should I shut up and just let them enjoy it, or do you believe in these Big 12 teams?

00:31:59I'm talking about BYU, who just beat Notre Dame, Texas Tech, who went to the playoff last

00:32:02year, and then Utah, who's at number ten for no good reason whatsoever.

00:32:07Winning, but...

00:32:07And you throw Houston in there, too, being really competitive.

00:32:10I think, you know, year in and year out, one of the cool things about the Big 12 is they're

00:32:14the most competitive league, top to bottom.

00:32:17Yeah.

00:32:17Like, there's always so much fun, and the games are back and forth, and anybody can beat

00:32:21anybody.

00:32:22I mean, I think, Brandon, I don't disagree with your premise completely, but I do think

00:32:28that when you look at these squads, I think because they don't play each other, this isn't

00:32:32going to change.

00:32:33Like, Texas Tech doesn't play BYU.

00:32:36They don't play Utah.

00:32:38Like, we're not going to know a little bit more.

00:32:40I do think the schedules have been extremely soft, and they're going to continue to be,

00:32:45they're going to play each other.

00:32:45I mean, think about the world now where Houston beats Utah, and then now you're looking at

00:32:51if Houston beats Texas Tech, and you're a three-way tie, you might get three teams in

00:32:55the mix.

00:32:55Yeah.

00:32:56And that's crazy.

00:32:56And we didn't even talk about BYU, so I think it is a little bit of product of the

00:33:01schedule, just like BYU.

00:33:02BYU's a really, really good team.

00:33:03Bear Bachmeier's an absolute stud, whether he's wearing 47 or not, right?

00:33:07Like, he's a great player.

00:33:09But we also forget that the last three games before last week were decided by a seven-point

00:33:14range, an eight-point range, right?

00:33:15They're competitive games.

00:33:17And so I think it's a really, really good conference.

00:33:20Do I think it's a three-bid league team for the playoffs that are going to go do some damage

00:33:24in the playoffs?

00:33:25I don't.

00:33:26David, first of all, I want to compliment you on avoiding the trap that Brandon tried

00:33:29to set for you right there to get people angry at you, the anger off of him onto you.

00:33:33Great job avoiding that.

00:33:34No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:33:36Second, I'm just curious.

00:33:37You said you didn't have a team that you would stake as a national champion in week eight.

00:33:42But is there a team you're currently buying stock in, maybe outside of the top eight,

00:33:46top 12, that you believe has a chance to at least make a run, make a college football

00:33:51playoff, or even win their conference, something like that?

00:33:54You want to get really weird this morning?

00:33:56Yes.

00:33:57Let's get a little weird, David.

00:33:59Look at Kentucky's schedule.

00:34:01Oh, yeah.

00:34:03It's not as bad as we thought.

00:34:05No.

00:34:05They're better than we thought.

00:34:07Kirby Smart just said, like, hey, there is no, you know, there is no Cignetti effect in

00:34:11the SEC.

00:34:12Well, right now it is Will Stein.

00:34:14I mean, they're playing great football.

00:34:17They, here's the thing, because everything is so much more together now, and there's

00:34:22so much less balance, like, first of all, look at that.

00:34:25Yeah.

00:34:26If they, if they, if they win, they got a chance to be in the SEC championship game,

00:34:30which is absolutely nuts.

00:34:31But like, they haven't turned the football over since Alabama.

00:34:35Yeah.

00:34:35Not one time.

00:34:36And they take it, they take it away at a high level.

00:34:39They run it.

00:34:40They have balance on offense.

00:34:41Like, if you can be a team like that, you're going to be in every game.

00:34:44The schedule sets up pretty good where they got a bye week.

00:34:48Actually got a bye week with Vanderbilt too, but a bye week the next week, and then play

00:34:51at Tennessee, which is really, really tough.

00:34:53And then if you can do some things against Missouri and Florida, and then you got Louisville

00:34:57at the end, man, they might be right there in the mix.

00:34:59And Will Stein, look at Oregon's offense right now.

00:35:03Yeah.

00:35:03And you point, and you look in Lexington and you go, oh, I see why.

00:35:08That guy.

00:35:09Yeah.

00:35:10I mean, it's, it's, it's Will Stein proving everything here early on.

00:35:13Um, David, I want to look at, uh, the, the SEC right now.

00:35:17There's some, there's some great two loss teams or some very strong two loss teams, right?

00:35:22However, due to the schedule, uh, they're going to play each other.

00:35:25They're going to eliminate each other.

00:35:26So if you're looking at like, uh, Texas, Alabama, LSU, uh, which two loss team do you believe

00:35:33in the most going forward?

00:35:36I, I, I would say, first of all, Texas, I'm out.

00:35:39Okay.

00:35:40I short sold that stock.

00:35:42Like I'm, I'm good.

00:35:42I'm out.

00:35:43Um, Alabama is, is definitely disturbing.

00:35:46That it's not the, it's not the fact that you lost like Georgia losing and having three

00:35:50turnovers and beating themselves is one thing you got hit upside the head with a frying

00:35:54pan.

00:35:54Like you went to Neyland and got dominated physically.

00:35:57That that's a problem that like, it gives me cause for pause.

00:36:00The thing about LSU, obviously two really, really close losses.

00:36:04Can you give me weeks and trade as back?

00:36:07Like I'm, I host Alabama.

00:36:09Like I think LSU and listen, I thought this before they lost, before they got their last

00:36:14loss to Kentucky that this is a really, this is a good football team.

00:36:17Sam Levitt's had some bad luck with the turnover margin with some weird tips.

00:36:21Like, I just don't think that will continue.

00:36:23I think he's playing really, really good football.

00:36:25I think his development from the pocket, like, and now you look at the schedule.

00:36:29I'm not as scared of Texas, but I do host Texas and Alabama, but man, Tennessee keeps

00:36:34being that team that keeps popping up on these schedules, right?

00:36:36That, that can be the team that ruins all of this and especially the way they're playing

00:36:40on the defense.

00:36:41But if I like LSU and if they can get weeks back and green back, man, I mean, now you

00:36:45got Umami Ellen who's, who's banged up like they're a little bit banged up, but those

00:36:49guys, I like their consistency throughout the season.

00:36:53David, some of the major news coming out today, Julian saying, looking like he's going to

00:36:56be out for potentially the entire season for Ohio State, uh, what does this do to the team

00:37:02as a whole in, in your mind?

00:37:04Like, are they still a playoff team?

00:37:06Is that off the table?

00:37:07Certainly feels like a championship would be off.

00:37:10Well, first of all, put up Ohio State's schedule too, because this is the toughest schedule

00:37:15they've ever had and no gimme's the rest of the way, like none, no gimme's.

00:37:20So that's a bad spot.

00:37:21Here's what I'll say.

00:37:22And this isn't going to be popular probably with a lot of people in Columbus.

00:37:25I don't think the way Julian saying was playing gave them a chance to win a championship anyway.

00:37:31Yeah, I think that's fair.

00:37:32I was, I was, I was, I was discouraged watching him because I think I know he's gotten better,

00:37:37but man, when Indiana bracketed and double covered in zone or man, whatever it looked

00:37:41like Jeremiah Smith, he, he looked very lost and he missed a lot of throws.

00:37:45Now, listen, you're bringing in a true freshman.

00:37:47You're going to take true freshman lumps, but I also am going to go like this.

00:37:52Hey, Hey, listen, young buck, come here.

00:37:53Your first read, your second read in your third read is number four, like just throw

00:37:58it to him every freaking play.

00:38:00Like, so maybe, but, but, but the, the problem with this is the offensive line is not in a

00:38:06good spot for Ohio state.

00:38:07They don't push people around.

00:38:09So they have to depend on the throw game more.

00:38:12Now you're bringing in a young buck, man.

00:38:13I just, it's trouble in Columbus.

00:38:17David, you're the absolute best man.

00:38:18I know it's a busy time of year.

00:38:20Thank you for the time.

00:38:20See ball, get ball.

00:38:22It's a great college football show.

00:38:23Go check it out.

00:38:24Thank you, David.

00:38:26Appreciate you.

00:38:27Mother suckers.

00:38:29He's the man.

00:38:31Let's go.

00:38:32All right.

00:38:33Coming up next.

00:38:33Let's go.

00:38:34Brandon.

00:38:35It's time for Griffins and outs.

00:38:36I'm going to cuss so much.

00:38:45It's time for everybody's favorite segment.

00:38:47It's Connor Griffins, Griffins and outs.

00:38:49Connor, take it away.

00:38:49Thank you to you, Bob.

00:38:50You know, I love you to death.

00:38:52We are talking about the things that we saw in sports the past week that we would like

00:38:56to bring with us into the weeks beyond as well as the stuff that we can leave behind

00:38:59because it's not so cool.

00:39:00First and foremost, a thing that is in, a thing that will always be in, it's Star Wars.

00:39:06It was just announced that this year's Super Bowl will have a Star Wars themed animated

00:39:11alt cast for it that I'll be tuning into.

00:39:14And we're all Star Wars guys here.

00:39:15Here's Brandon.

00:39:16Well, no, that's just the Mostly Sports murder mystery.

00:39:19Yeah.

00:39:19Nothing to do with.

00:39:20No, but we do Star Wars shows on Mostly Sports, which is a show that everybody should check

00:39:25out.

00:39:25Not in the.

00:39:2610 a.m.

00:39:26T-Bob made an appearance on our last Star Wars show that we did on Mostly Sports.

00:39:30But Brandon always likes to talk about, oh, Star Wars, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:34The rest of the sports world is eating up Star Wars right now.

00:39:37And it will be a major thing in February.

00:39:40I saw a clip from Brandon the other day where he was referencing Luke Skywalker in a college

00:39:46football take.

00:39:46So make no mistake, he is one of us.

00:39:49He loves Star Wars.

00:39:50It's very much.

00:39:51Super Bowl's a little crazy for this.

00:39:53Eh.

00:39:54Because I'm not going to watch this.

00:39:55Like, I'm not going to watch.

00:39:56If it was another game, I would watch the alt cast.

00:39:58I don't think I'm going to.

00:39:59Well, also, Darth Vader, I heard there was a thing online.

00:40:03He might be interviewing players in the next coming week.

00:40:06He doesn't exist.

00:40:07They were saying that Darth Vader during football games might be actually.

00:40:11Was that a long, long time ago?

00:40:11You think that you exist more than Darth Vader?

00:40:14You think that you have had a fictional character, too, Bob?

00:40:16More than Darth Vader.

00:40:17He doesn't exist.

00:40:18Okay.

00:40:19All right.

00:40:19Why would he be the one to interview players?

00:40:21Why not Yoda?

00:40:23Why not Han Solo?

00:40:25He's a charismatic guy.

00:40:26Why not Spock?

00:40:27Okay.

00:40:27Dan Quinn forked out, did you know it was?

00:40:31And that's why we talk Star Wars on the show.

00:40:34Moving on, I am very much out on the referee slander.

00:40:38Too many times we just point to the refs and say, oh, it's their fault.

00:40:41They're the worst people.

00:40:42They go through injuries.

00:40:43They're battling out there on the football field, too.

00:40:46There was a referee who went down with a non-contact injury.

00:40:49I believe he's going to have to miss the rest of the year, from what I read.

00:40:52And you had this other referee take a knee.

00:40:55If you're 72, you've got to hit a knee next to your boy, right?

00:40:58Yeah.

00:40:59Like, what's he doing?

00:41:00If one ref hits a knee in front of you, you've got to join up.

00:41:04All refs got to hit it.

00:41:05I saw this the other day.

00:41:07It put things into perspective.

00:41:08We look at these guys as if they're not even human.

00:41:11We could say whatever we want about them.

00:41:13We could criticize them.

00:41:14They stink.

00:41:15Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:41:15They go through what a lot of football players go through, too.

00:41:19And it's a hard time out there.

00:41:21Underrated ref moment.

00:41:22Which touchdown?

00:41:23I can't remember.

00:41:24There was a touchdown this weekend.

00:41:25They decided the game.

00:41:26It was a big touchdown.

00:41:27I can't remember which game it was.

00:41:28But the ref had to duck under the ball.

00:41:30It was awesome.

00:41:30Yeah, it was.

00:41:31Might have been BYU.

00:41:32It was BYU.

00:41:33Okay, okay.

00:41:33Yeah, perfect.

00:41:34So, not enough credit.

00:41:36You're right.

00:41:36Yeah.

00:41:37My next in, it's in-er-peace.

00:41:41In-er-peace.

00:41:42No, not like that, Cody.

00:41:44Not like that.

00:41:44In-er-peace.

00:41:46It's inner-peace is very much in.

00:41:48Let's roll the highlights.

00:41:50We got Jayla Brown, who obviously had a great game last night.

00:41:53Great debut for the Sixers.

00:41:55But he also revealed in a clip earlier this week that he has a person he hired come play the

00:42:01harp.

00:42:02A harpist.

00:42:02Yeah, a harpist at his place while his chef is cooking dinner and there's a nice sunset coming into.

00:42:09I'm usually a guy who's like, hey, listen, let's be a little bit responsible with our money here.

00:42:13As long as he's not going on a podcast and saying, like, listen, it's kind of hard to be only

00:42:18making $100 million a year and then I'm fine with it.

00:42:20This is prioritizing peace, tranquility.

00:42:23He's got a harpist coming to us.

00:42:25No, we have a harpist in this company.

00:42:26Who?

00:42:26Casey Smith.

00:42:28Harpist?

00:42:29Harpist.

00:42:29I did not know.

00:42:30Wait, harpist or?

00:42:32Harpy?

00:42:33No, harpist.

00:42:34No, harpy.

00:42:34I think harpy is sort of.

00:42:37I thought that was a Yu-Gi-Oh character.

00:42:40It's Game of Thrones.

00:42:41Yeah.

00:42:42I mean, that sounds delightful.

00:42:44If you had, if I had money, like, that's how I'd want to spend it.

00:42:47Hey, hey, FS1.

00:42:49Give us a harpist.

00:42:51Yeah.

00:42:51It's not the young station back there.

00:42:52What if it was replaced by a harpist?

00:42:54It would be really good.

00:42:56But speaking of a lot of money, I'm out on theft.

00:43:00This just goes for a principle in life.

00:43:04Wait.

00:43:04Okay, yeah.

00:43:05Yeah.

00:43:05We're leaving this behind in this week, right?

00:43:07So we were cool with theft up until this week?

00:43:09No, no.

00:43:10Well, I mean, it's just a story that you see.

00:43:12It's tough.

00:43:13There was a FedEx truck that was robbed.

00:43:16There was about roughly a million dollars worth of trading cards, you know, sports trading

00:43:21cards primarily, in this truck, the FedEx truck.

00:43:24It reminds me of that movie back in the day, like, one of the first movies ever made,

00:43:28The Great FedEx Robbery, where they stole, they hopped on the FedEx truck, and they robbed

00:43:33all the cards.

00:43:34And there are a lot of people.

00:43:34This is why this segment's six.

00:43:35What's the Great FedEx Robbery, Joe?

00:43:37You're saying the Great Train Robbery.

00:43:38There are a lot of people who are missing their trading cards today, and this is one of the

00:43:42most booming businesses in all sports.

00:43:44It's the trading card business.

00:43:45Now, I was asking.

00:43:46And these people just hijacked the truck.

00:43:48I was asking, Eddie, about this.

00:43:49I mean, a pretty fun kind of low-stakes thing to steal, though.

00:43:52It sucks that people got their cards.

00:43:53Well, they're not low-stakes.

00:43:55Sorry, monetary stakes.

00:43:56But you're not, like, you know, no actual societal impact.

00:44:00Right.

00:44:00I did hear that people got their cards sold.

00:44:02Maybe you get, like, I think PSA's going to give them face value.

00:44:04But even then, that sucks, because the whole point is to sit on these things and try to

00:44:08make money.

00:44:09And it's about the memory of those.

00:44:11I'm going to be completely honest.

00:44:12I don't know.

00:44:13I don't feel that bad for these.

00:44:14No, I don't feel that bad for these card guys.

00:44:15Why not?

00:44:17Because sports cards may be a little bit different, but, like, watching these scalpers and these

00:44:20adults just absolutely ruin, like, things like Pokemon.

00:44:23No, adults do ruin the card industry.

00:44:24I will agree with that.

00:44:25So, sorry, guys.

00:44:27I don't really get in the card industry.

00:44:28Okay.

00:44:28I'm more of a memorabilia guy.

00:44:30All right, all right, all right.

00:44:30Have you found your Kamaru yet?

00:44:33I'm in negotiations.

00:44:34Oh, okay.

00:44:35Let's go, dude.

00:44:37All right.

00:44:38Well, my last in of the day, it's doppelgangers.

00:44:42You really don't see a whole lot of doppelgangers, just in general, but especially in sports.

00:44:46We had an awesome situation.

00:44:48Yeah, this is crazy.

00:44:49Where Golden State, they're playing a basketball game, and this guy who looks exactly like Steve

00:44:53Kerr sits, what is that, four rows behind the Warriors bench?

00:44:56And Steve Kerr is just, like, dumbfounded by it.

00:44:58And he looks behind.

00:44:59Apparently, this has been happening for a while.

00:45:02That guy's name is also Steve, by the way.

00:45:04Yes, it is.

00:45:05No, no.

00:45:05And he was taking pictures with Roger Federer a couple years ago at a game.

00:45:09He's a doppelganger for Steve Kerr.

00:45:11It's been happening to him for a long time now where people confuse him for Steve Kerr.

00:45:15So, I loved this video because I thought it, like, just kind of happened naturally because

00:45:20he's not really calling attention to himself.

00:45:22But is this a bit, Ebo?

00:45:24I don't know.

00:45:25Out of crowd Steve?

00:45:26This doesn't look like a big guy to me.

00:45:28He doesn't look like, you're right.

00:45:30To be fair, he does not.

00:45:32It's serious.

00:45:33Not to judge a book by its cover, but.

00:45:35Speaking of doppelgangers.

00:45:35The best way to judge a book, by the way.

00:45:37Movie.

00:45:38Yeah.

00:45:38It's pretty crazy.

00:45:39That's Steve Kerr's story.

00:45:40We got doppelgangers in this company.

00:45:42Yeah.

00:45:43Movie.

00:45:44Shout out to Movie.

00:45:47I think we should put a picture of Movie and Cody next to each other now.

00:45:49What do you got next?

00:45:50Start the next segment.

00:45:50Yeah.

00:45:51That would be good.

00:45:52Start the second hour.

00:45:52My last out, Brandon's had some takes on this.

00:45:55I'm out on false promises because the Milwaukee Brewers are catching some heat today.

00:46:00They put out these timeless tickets back in 2015.

00:46:04They told fans you could buy these tickets.

00:46:06They were $1,000 on sale for $1,000 a piece.

00:46:09You buy a ticket.

00:46:10You can use it at any future Brewers home game, including the postseason, including the World Series,

00:46:15and we'll give you the best tickets available.

00:46:18Well, you did have some people back in 2015 buy these tickets.

00:46:21They finally cashed them in just this time around for the 2026 World Series,

00:46:25and they were told the best seats they could get were the 400 level, the terrace level, standing room only.

00:46:32But I think it's a bad look.

00:46:34But value-wise, that's still more expensive than the ticket they bought.

00:46:39There are some tickets that they were showing were only going for like $971.

00:46:42Oh, okay.

00:46:43Sorry.

00:46:43They spent more back in 2015.

00:46:46Hold on, T-Bob.

00:46:47I got to take care, okay?

00:46:48I'm out on these two brothers.

00:46:50I'm out on these guys.

00:46:51The ones who bought the tickets.

00:46:53They bought these tickets fine.

00:46:54They bought the tickets.

00:46:55Yay, good for you, and you would have expected better value.

00:46:58I get that.

00:46:59But your team is in the World Series for the first time in 44 years,

00:47:02and then you choose now to come out and say,

00:47:04then you put them in the news for a bad reason,

00:47:06and now the Milwaukee Brewers have bad PR because of you?

00:47:10Almost cussed.

00:47:11Almost cussed.

00:47:12Because that's BS.

00:47:14So they did say, the Brewers came back and said that you could still keep that 400-level terrorist ticket

00:47:23for this World Series,

00:47:24and the timeless ticket will still apply for one future game.

00:47:28Oh, my God.

00:47:28So what are they complaining about?

00:47:30I don't want to be overly litigious, but they did say best seat available.

00:47:34It's the World Series.

00:47:36The seats are going to be purchased up.

00:47:38Like, people that are actually paying for it, I'm like, if you want to use it on the biggest stage,

00:47:41you have to accept you're not going to get a very good seat.

00:47:44Ibo, where do you stand?

00:47:46I think it's a bad investment.

00:47:48It's a stupid thing to buy.

00:47:50Not everybody has $1,000 to spare, like Brandon Walker.

00:47:54Well, they had $1,000 to spare 11 years ago.

00:47:57They have $4,450 right now if they had any sense.

00:48:00Yeah, but in the market.

00:48:01I don't think they made a false promise, though.

00:48:03It's at best seats available.

00:48:05It's the World Series.

00:48:06And the value of the ticket is still more than $1,000.

00:48:09But back in 2018, when the Brewers made it to the NLCS, there were reports that, like,

00:48:14if the timeless ticket were to be applied in the World Series, if the Brewers were to make it there,

00:48:17they'd be, like, right behind home plate.

00:48:20Like, so it's a matter of what you promise versus what you give.

00:48:24And, yes, in this situation, the Brewers have caught in a lot of heat.

00:48:26And I just want to make sure that we mean what we say.

00:48:29I'm with Brandon.

00:48:30Not staying with Brandon.

00:48:30I'm out on this out.

00:48:31Yeah.

00:48:32Screw them, guys.

00:48:33All right.

00:48:34Coming up next, guys, hour number two.

00:48:36We got some NFL news.

00:48:37Do you buy it?

00:48:38The college football confidence level.

00:48:40And Ibo's going to give us a World Series preview, Ibo.

00:48:44Who has the edge?

00:48:47Coom.

00:48:53What's happening, y'all?

00:48:54Welcome back to Wake Up Bars.

00:48:56We've got a big hour coming for you here.

00:48:57A lot of NFL talk.

00:48:59A lot of college football talk.

00:49:01Of course, shout out the NBA.

00:49:03It's back.

00:49:04Big day if you're a Sixers fan.

00:49:06They win.

00:49:07Jalen Brown winning day one of the breakup.

00:49:11The Celtics blow.

00:49:11One game we didn't touch on.

00:49:13The Boston Celtics blow.

00:49:14A 20-point third quarter lead to the Pistons.

00:49:18It was bad.

00:49:19What are we?

00:49:19Okay.

00:49:19We're too slow on each other?

00:49:20No, no, no.

00:49:21I'm not letting.

00:49:22No.

00:49:22I'm not letting you too slow me.

00:49:24I'm not letting too slow culture infect Wake Up Barstool.

00:49:28We established a level of trust and friendship on the show.

00:49:31Once you too slow a guy, you've put a gangrenous wound in the relationship.

00:49:37What are you saying?

00:49:38Gangrenous?

00:49:38If you too slow someone, Cody, have you.

00:49:40What's this overdramatic crap?

00:49:41No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:49:42Once you too slow someone, you put a gangrenous infection in the friendship.

00:49:46I hate that.

00:49:46No, you don't, dude.

00:49:48Anyway, how do we feel about the Eagles?

00:49:51You can go home now, Bobby.

00:49:53Bobby, you can go home.

00:49:57We got Bobby at home.

00:49:59I just got Cody running things over there.

00:50:02I just got him.

00:50:02Cody, where are we going next?

00:50:03Cody, keep going.

00:50:04Cody, switch.

00:50:04Jalen Hurts out for the season.

00:50:06What's next for the Eagles?

00:50:07Cody, switch.

00:50:08You got it.

00:50:08Come on over here, Coach.

00:50:09You won.

00:50:12You won.

00:50:13I'm over here now.

00:50:14Cody, run this.

00:50:15All right, Cody, take us where we need to go.

00:50:17Look, it's on my computer if you need the sheet.

00:50:19Oh, I don't need the sheet.

00:50:20I just got it up here, too, Bob.

00:50:23Jalen Hurts out for the season.

00:50:25So, Connor, what's next for the Eagles as we look ahead?

00:50:27Great question to you, Bob.

00:50:28I think it's very much a reset year.

00:50:32You already had a bunch of injuries.

00:50:34You already traded away Cam Juergens.

00:50:36You already had Lane Johnson retire.

00:50:39There was a lot of things in flux.

00:50:41You're playing with a hospital squad right now.

00:50:43This team, I mean, yeah, you're going to figure out a lot on Monday against the Cowboys.

00:50:47But if you lose, then, yeah, it's a full-on reset year.

00:50:50You get a high draft pick.

00:50:51T-Bob, you want to be in the number one answering chair so you can answer the host?

00:50:55You want to be this guy?

00:50:56I got to take.

00:50:57We'll switch out.

00:50:57No, I got to think about this.

00:51:00T-Bob, can you just look into where Jalen Hurts went to college for me?

00:51:03Yeah.

00:51:04Hold on one second.

00:51:04Can you look into that?

00:51:05I locked my computer so he can't do anything.

00:51:08Yeah, I can't.

00:51:08I actually can't.

00:51:09Yeah, no, I can't.

00:51:11He went to college at Alabama than Oklahoma.

00:51:14Okay, cool, cool, cool.

00:51:15He did have, in 2019, he had one of the greatest college football seasons that we've never talked about.

00:51:19Because Joe Burrow.

00:51:21It's about enough for you.

00:51:22All right, boys, do you buy it?

00:51:24Okay, so the Vikings' early season success undefeated right now, are they legit?

00:51:40I do not buy it.

00:51:41I think they are, of all the undefeated teams, they're obviously the worst.

00:51:45I think they might be the worst team in that division.

00:51:48I know the defense is great, but at some point you're going to have to score points and you're going

00:51:51to have to have a quarterback make some plays.

00:51:53And I don't see them having it.

00:51:54I look at this division, I still think they're the worst team in that division, even though they are currently

00:51:585-0.

00:51:59I'm not buying it, but last year we did see a team with a reclamation quarterback who wasn't that good.

00:52:06Yeah.

00:52:07With an elite defense.

00:52:08Won the Super Bowl.

00:52:09Won the Super Bowl.

00:52:10Yeah.

00:52:10And it's like, maybe you don't have to have all the things go right.

00:52:14Maybe you just need a couple of pieces.

00:52:16And these Vikings went 14-3 a couple years ago, also with a reclamation quarterback.

00:52:20It was the same reclamation quarterback, but it was still, they went 14-3.

00:52:24Listen, I'm not buying.

00:52:26But looking forward, they probably beat the Colts, but they might lose the next four after that.

00:52:32So I'm not buying.

00:52:34Are they a solid team?

00:52:36Is that defense elite?

00:52:37Yes.

00:52:37But I don't buy them as a serious contender.

00:52:40T-Bob, can you pull up the odds, the current odds in the NFC?

00:52:44Can you get that up on the screen for me?

00:52:45It looks like, it looks like Syndrome from the Incredibles.

00:52:48Incredibles, yeah.

00:52:50I would hate to put Cody's password in wrong a bunch of times and get him locked down.

00:52:54Okay, so Vikings 7-1.

00:52:55Wow.

00:52:56Terrible.

00:52:56What's the next, do you buy it?

00:52:58The Broncos can win the AFC West with Bo Nix at quarterback.

00:53:02Do you buy it?

00:53:04I do not buy that one, Connor Griffin.

00:53:07I wouldn't buy it solely because of Chiefs existing.

00:53:12He's doing the segment.

00:53:14You've created a monster.

00:53:16I don't want to say I don't buy it because of Bo Nix.

00:53:20I want to make that very clear.

00:53:21I just think that the Chiefs are the better team in that division.

00:53:24I feel like Bo Nix being the quarterback would be a primary reason not to buy it, though.

00:53:28But, for instance, if the Chiefs were kind of middling away, if Mahomes was a shell of himself

00:53:34after the injury of Travis Kelsey, wasn't the Travis Kelsey...

00:53:37But this is more about the Chiefs being good for you.

00:53:39It's more about the Chiefs being good than the Broncos having limitations with Bo Nix at quarterback.

00:53:42I think I kind of buy it, even though I don't think Bo Nix is even remotely, like Fitzpatrick said,

00:53:49competitive at quarterback.

00:53:51We've lost the locker room.

00:53:52You're in charge.

00:53:54I can't control that.

00:53:56What is that?

00:53:58When did he get tape?

00:54:02The Packers are a better team in the last three weeks than they were in the first three weeks.

00:54:06You know Men in Black?

00:54:07You didn't buy it.

00:54:08Why would I not buy that?

00:54:09Who wrote that one?

00:54:10I don't know.

00:54:10I might have read it wrong.

00:54:13The Packers are more the...

00:54:14Oh, okay.

00:54:15I see what it's saying.

00:54:16The team from the last three weeks, that's more who they are than the first three weeks.

00:54:19Yes.

00:54:20No, the Packers are somewhere in between both these...

00:54:24We have seen them be otherworldly and then also be a dog that has to go out and...

00:54:30But which version of them is closer to the real thing?

00:54:32I think the idea...

00:54:34The Packers are just a coin flip every week.

00:54:37You either get heads or tails.

00:54:38I don't know.

00:54:38They came into this season with a lot of stink.

00:54:41They had a losing streak.

00:54:42It was hard to snap.

00:54:43They snapped it.

00:54:44Now they're finally getting their rhythm back.

00:54:45I think it's more the last three weeks.

00:54:48But, yeah, the games that they've been playing, specifically the past two, I don't think are what we're going to

00:54:52be seeing from Green Bay.

00:54:53They also got the Bears at home.

00:54:55They got the Cowboys at home.

00:54:56Their road schedule coming up at Lions, at Patriots, at Rams.

00:55:00Like, it gets a little bit rough going on the road a little bit later in the season.

00:55:04First place in the division, Panthers coming into town.

00:55:06That's a tough stretch.

00:55:07I mean, Drake may all the way back.

00:55:12That's what I want to get to, Ibo.

00:55:13The Panthers, are they the best team in the NFC South?

00:55:17Oh, it's the game where he has to guess on his head.

00:55:21I think, like, Connor, but not Connor yesterday.

00:55:24Connor, for like two weeks, he's a what?

00:55:28Well, he has tape over his mouth, so he can't really talk.

00:55:30Yeah, the Panthers are the best team in the NFC South.

00:55:32Also, he wrote that.

00:55:33I guess that's true.

00:55:34J.J. McCarthy's new change of scenery, will it save his career?

00:55:40Save his career in what sense?

00:55:42He's not...

00:55:43Fix his career, I guess.

00:55:44Right.

00:55:44He's not an NFL quarterback.

00:55:47He hasn't even started.

00:55:47You know, it looked pretty good in the fourth quarter the other day, but that's one stretch

00:55:51of 15 minutes.

00:55:52It was really 11 minutes, so no, I don't think so.

00:55:55I think this was an aberration.

00:55:57Okay.

00:55:58I think the thing about J.J. McCarthy is this.

00:56:00He is developing as a quarterback.

00:56:01You know what the really good news for him actually is, and you might agree with this?

00:56:05There's nothing coming behind him.

00:56:07Nothing.

00:56:08There is nothing in the college game that we are inspired by in terms of professional quarterback

00:56:13play.

00:56:14But he's got now all the time in the world, probably, to develop.

00:56:17And Jackson Dart gets hurt every year, so maybe just stick where you're at.

00:56:21Just exist.

00:56:22The Texans will repeat last season and make the playoffs after an awful start.

00:56:26Do you buy it?

00:56:27No.

00:56:27I think I do buy that.

00:56:29Now, I can't guarantee that, but I think I can see a path where going forward that is

00:56:35possible.

00:56:36You know, they win this week, then they beat bye week.

00:56:38And then they could be 4-4 after the Chargers game.

00:56:42I think they make the playoffs what you saw from them, really what you've seen from them

00:56:46the entire season.

00:56:46The offense has been good.

00:56:48It's just a matter of whether or not that defense can dial back in.

00:56:50And the Jags, I think, at least were going into that game, a top-five team in the league.

00:56:55That was a big-time win on the road, and I think it compels them into a...

00:56:59I mean, on the road.

00:57:01Well, London.

00:57:02Not really on the road.

00:57:04London is Jacksonville town.

00:57:05Kind of on the road.

00:57:06T-Bob will be...

00:57:07Jacksonville is Jacksonville town.

00:57:08Nah, Duval County extends overseas.

00:57:11Yeah.

00:57:12T-Bob will be back in this seat after commercial break.

00:57:14Do you buy it?

00:57:15I do buy that.

00:57:16I don't see T-Bob being able to stay away from the spotlight for very long.

00:57:20He's really a diva.

00:57:21He's somebody that is absolutely...

00:57:23It's all about him.

00:57:24And I don't think he'll be able to give up that chair to you for more than a segment.

00:57:28What is the word?

00:57:30Gregorius?

00:57:30Wally Pip.

00:57:31All right.

00:57:31We're heading to commercial break.

00:57:34And look at T-Bob.

00:57:39What's happening, y'all?

00:57:40Welcome back to Wake Up Barstool.

00:57:42I guess I'm back in the seat after being emasculated.

00:57:45And when it rains and pours, I just got a text from my guy, Chris Perrette.

00:57:49Your partner, Brandon Walker, has grown on me and is now one of my favorites on radio.

00:57:53Oh.

00:57:54Oh, wow.

00:57:54Yeah, so great.

00:57:56From who?

00:57:56So great.

00:57:57Just somebody.

00:57:58My old friend.

00:57:59Anyway.

00:58:00All right.

00:58:01I'm going to try to get my confidence back with a little confident game.

00:58:05Bingo.

00:58:05What's your confidence level?

00:58:07Normally, we save these ratings for Fashion Report, guys.

00:58:09We're going to do here.

00:58:10We're going to offer up a rating on how much we believe a statement is going to happen.

00:58:15And we'll start with Tommy Carr in Michigan.

00:58:20Boys, what are y'all's confidence levels that Tommy Carr will be the start of Michigan for the rest of

00:58:24his career?

00:58:25He's a true freshman right now.

00:58:27Rest of his career?

00:58:28Rest of his career.

00:58:30One.

00:58:31Yeah, I don't think...

00:58:32Rest of the season, 10.

00:58:33I don't think you can look at any freshman quarterback in college football in the year of our Lord, 2026,

00:58:38and say with 100% confidence they will start the rest of their career.

00:58:41There's too much volatility and transfer portal.

00:58:44What if Michigan hears through the grapevine that the great quarterback's available, they'll go buy him?

00:58:49Jeremy's floundering.

00:58:50He goes, what about 50% confidence?

00:58:51No, look.

00:58:52No, the only reason I'm not going one is being so far on the end of the spectrum.

00:58:56But I'm a two.

00:58:57The reasons y'all named also, guys, he threw seven passes.

00:59:00Yeah.

00:59:00He's like, I've never seen seven passes be so wildly celebrated.

00:59:04I mean, they'll ramp him up.

00:59:05They'll ramp him up and get him to where they want him to be a little bit.

00:59:08I just mean, they score these three second-half touchdowns, and it's like, oh, my God, it's all Tommy Carr.

00:59:14He threw seven passes.

00:59:14Yeah, well, J.J. McCarthy once threw zero passes in a half and then got drafted in the first round.

00:59:18So, what are you going to do?

00:59:19You're really picking up the pitchfork again, aren't you?

00:59:22Well, there's a...

00:59:22You really are pitching.

00:59:24There's the familial aspect there where, you know, he obviously has family ties to Michigan.

00:59:29If he were to play well, I can imagine him wanting to stay at Michigan.

00:59:34But at the same time, yeah, I don't know if that's necessarily...

00:59:37Oh, you have him transferring out.

00:59:39I have it as a four.

00:59:40Yeah, well, I mean, like, at the very least...

00:59:43Talking about it on a show yesterday, everybody wants to talk about Archie Manning's seed.

00:59:47Lloyd Carr, underrated seed.

00:59:49Yeah.

00:59:50So, yeah, if it goes decently well, I could see him staying at Michigan for a long time

00:59:56and being the starter.

00:59:57But I'm also, yeah, not super high on it.

00:59:59That's actually a good point.

01:00:00His son of Keel was the crime stopper in Baltimore.

01:00:02That's also true.

01:00:04Next one.

01:00:05Oh, that's me.

01:00:07I'm really just out of sorts here.

01:00:08The Rams will bounce back.

01:00:10Oh, you broke this, man.

01:00:11The Rams really did.

01:00:12I've never been so emasculated, so planted, dominated on there.

01:00:16The Rams will bounce back and be NFC favorites by December.

01:00:21No.

01:00:21I don't have a zero.

01:00:23They're old.

01:00:24They're old.

01:00:25They're old.

01:00:26Devonta Adams now.

01:00:27Coming into the season, you know, we should have sounded alarm bells more.

01:00:31They were the favorite with a 38-year-old quarterback who all of a sudden looks 38.

01:00:34Devonta Adams is hurt.

01:00:36Miles Garrett is...

01:00:37We don't know when we're going to see him again.

01:00:39Aaron Donald's just kind of there.

01:00:40It's one.

01:00:41No.

01:00:42The Niners exist.

01:00:45I'm going to go three.

01:00:47Not that they would end up, like, as mathematical one seeds or anything, but Miles Garrett gets

01:00:53back, bump.

01:00:55Devonta Adams gets back, maybe a bump.

01:00:58If they can survive...

01:00:59Yeah, six to ten weeks.

01:00:59I know, but if they can survive in the short term, maybe they could be hot going into the

01:01:04playoffs and be like, you don't want to see the Rams first round.

01:01:06They lost to Arizona?

01:01:07I understand.

01:01:08I understand all this.

01:01:09And, no, look, guys, I have it at a three.

01:01:11I'm just acknowledging that I think there are scenarios out there where their record

01:01:16could be nine and eight, and they're like, still, by playoffs, I'm like, eh, I don't

01:01:19know.

01:01:19You don't want to play the Rams right now.

01:01:20I just think they've been overhyped for maybe the past two years.

01:01:24I've been on this train for a while.

01:01:25They find ways to beat themselves.

01:01:27And the special teams is a disaster.

01:01:29Now, the offense isn't looking that great.

01:01:31They only have nine points late in the fourth quarter against Arizona.

01:01:34It's a problem.

01:01:34It's a problem in L.A.

01:01:36Yeah.

01:01:36Should be one and five.

01:01:37And it's not even just about Devonta Adams.

01:01:38They got a lot of injuries starting to pile up.

01:01:41All right.

01:01:42One to ten, confidence level.

01:01:43Eagles are free-falling.

01:01:45They will miss the playoffs for the first time since 2020.

01:01:50I'm going to find my numbers here.

01:01:52There's no way they're going to the playoffs without Jalen Hurts.

01:01:54The only way they go is because the NFC East is so bad.

01:01:57Back-to-back weeks without a single NFC East team picking up a win.

01:02:01Yeah.

01:02:01I think there's a very good chance to make the playoffs.

01:02:04I think there's a very good chance to get, like, back into winning a playoff game.

01:02:08They have one of the five winningest coaches in the history of the NFL, Brandon.

01:02:12A guy that finds ways to win.

01:02:14And if he can find a way to get Tanner McKee and all these pieces in place, he is no

01:02:18doubt slam dunk coach.

01:02:19I felt like you were making a strong—you were making like, yeah, you kind of had me going with you,

01:02:23and then Tanner McKee exited your mouth, and I was like, yeah, okay.

01:02:27It's not happening offensively.

01:02:28We're good.

01:02:29We got the ten—

01:02:30We got Tanner McKee.

01:02:31We're good.

01:02:32I mean, but, like, look at the four games they lost.

01:02:34It was at Bears.

01:02:36Yeah, but with Jalen Hurts.

01:02:38They lost to the Super Bowl—preseason Super Bowl favorites, a team that won 14 games last year.

01:02:42That's the last second.

01:02:42And the best team in the NFC South.

01:02:44I mean, that's a tough stretch of games.

01:02:45You have three straight divisional games coming up.

01:02:48You could be five and four coming out of that in first place.

01:02:52Fair.

01:02:53It's the defense that would get the Eagles to a playoffs.

01:02:55That's fair.

01:02:56It would not be the offense.

01:02:57I can't imagine what that locker room's like.

01:03:00Yeah, right.

01:03:00I mean, like, you're just losing all your leaders.

01:03:03Everybody's gone.

01:03:04It's got to be a complete leadership void in there right now.

01:03:08It's Joe Milton in there.

01:03:10It's Joe Milton signed to the press.

01:03:12What's your confidence level that the Miami Hurricanes are actually the best team in all of college football?

01:03:23Brandon is a man of extremes.

01:03:25He's a man of extremes.

01:03:27One or ten on every answer so far.

01:03:29That's a two.

01:03:31Why so low?

01:03:32Chris was in my ear saying there are numbers between one and ten, but you're asking me questions where the

01:03:36answers are one and ten.

01:03:37I'm sorry.

01:03:38I am fairly certain that the Miami Hurricanes are not the best team in college football.

01:03:42That does not mean they won't win the national title.

01:03:43Well, fairly certain might not be a one, though, dude, to be fair.

01:03:46I am 100% certain they're not the best team in college football, and I know Georgia just lost.

01:03:50Georgia's the best team in college football, and Ohio State could be the best team in college football.

01:03:54I don't think Miami.

01:03:56Miami's not the best team in college football, but we don't play to crown the best team in college football.

01:04:00We play to crown a national champion who survives a playoff, and they're not going to take much damage in

01:04:05the regular season.

01:04:05They're going to go to the playoff very fresh, and they could win the title, but they're not the best

01:04:10team.

01:04:11The reason why I'm at a five is they're injured to all hell right now.

01:04:14Bad, bad, bad.

01:04:15They're finding ways to survive.

01:04:17The health rounds out by the end of the season.

01:04:19Yeah.

01:04:19I mean, they're surviving for one very simple reason.

01:04:23Well, they still have Tony Minton as long as they say how they can work.

01:04:25Well, their schedule's easy.

01:04:27That's why they're surviving.

01:04:28Technically, should have lost or could have lost to Florida State if the Hail Marys work out.

01:04:33They're very good.

01:04:35This Florida State game is tricky because Florida State, I think, is a little undervalued.

01:04:39Yeah, people think they're, like, worse than they are.

01:04:41They still have talent everywhere, and they can find ways to put it together for one game at a time.

01:04:44So that was tricky.

01:04:45Florida State-Miami.

01:04:46They're tough to parse.

01:04:47Yeah, UNC might be a little tricky, dude.

01:04:49UNC is annoyingly competent.

01:04:51Yeah.

01:04:53They're a lot better than you think they are.

01:04:54They'll probably still be, like, two touchdown favorites in that game.

01:04:57But, like, UNC has been tricky.

01:04:59They gave, like, Notre Dame a little bit of a run in the first half.

01:05:02And they've been very competitive defensively in a lot of these games.

01:05:06I think UNC is a very tricky spot.

01:05:08That game's on Halloween now.

01:05:09And it's the week before they play Notre Dame.

01:05:11Look at that spot.

01:05:12That's actually, like, this week 8 through week 11 is basically the rest of the schedule.

01:05:16And they get out of there.

01:05:18Yeah.

01:05:19Smoky season in Chapel Hill?

01:05:20It's tough.

01:05:21I mean, think about it, Connor.

01:05:22There's no better time to be buxom and busty than on Halloween.

01:05:27That's going to be Bill's night.

01:05:28You've got to watch out.

01:05:29Absolutely.

01:05:30Miami could be in trouble there.

01:05:31All right, next up on the list.

01:05:33What's your confidence meter that BYU is a legit national title contender?

01:05:39And not just a Cinderella.

01:05:41Brandon.

01:05:41Brandon cannot wait.

01:05:43He cannot run to the one fast enough.

01:05:47I'm going to go four.

01:05:48Listen, good win the other night.

01:05:50Really good win.

01:05:51The good win, good story.

01:05:54They're not going through a playoff where they have to beat Miami and Georgia and Ohio State

01:06:01back-to-back-to-back.

01:06:01They're just not.

01:06:02I'm sorry.

01:06:03They're not going to be able to play the whole playoff at home.

01:06:06They're not going to be able to play the playoff with a ref that says there's not a second left

01:06:09on the clock.

01:06:10That was a good win.

01:06:11They're a very good team.

01:06:12They will be in the playoff, I believe all that.

01:06:14They're not a national title contender.

01:06:16That's okay.

01:06:17As we established, though, earlier on in the show, who is the leading national championship?

01:06:22Yeah, there's a bit of a power value.

01:06:23I just told you three teams that I think are...

01:06:25It's also where I went five on that Miami question.

01:06:28Yeah, it's like there really isn't that elite cream-of-the-crop team.

01:06:33Let me ask you a question.

01:06:34Could compete.

01:06:36BYU plays Notre Dame in the first round of the playoffs.

01:06:38Who do you think wins that game?

01:06:40Well, I think Notre Dame would be favored on a neutral field, but I would feel confident in BYU making

01:06:46it a very similar game.

01:06:46Yeah, I didn't think that the Notre Dame win was fluky.

01:06:50I mean, they won because they were able to play man.

01:06:52I'm not saying it was fluky.

01:06:54They hung in the trenches.

01:06:55If it was a good win, I think Notre Dame would win the rematch.

01:06:59We had Columbus.

01:06:59But I don't think that doesn't make...

01:07:00He was a great head coach.

01:07:01That doesn't make BYU not a threat to win the national title.

01:07:04Fine, but this question is based on my confidence level.

01:07:07My confidence level is...

01:07:09Yeah, but to be fair, I said four, so I'm not exactly overly confident.

01:07:13Would you have a team over three that you feel confident in?

01:07:17I would put Georgia, Miami, Ohio State still probably above one, yeah.

01:07:23Okay.

01:07:24All right.

01:07:25Maybe even Notre Dame, but we'll talk about them later.

01:07:27What's your confidence level that Drake May is back to being Drake May from last season?

01:07:35I mean, he's back.

01:07:36I hate to admit it, but yeah.

01:07:38He's just very much back.

01:07:40He's doing it without...

01:07:41I mean, again, they've had a lot of injuries.

01:07:44A.J. Brown comes back.

01:07:45A.J. Brown looks terrible.

01:07:46He still plays great, still puts up numbers.

01:07:48You've got to imagine Brown's going to round into form.

01:07:50He's very good.

01:07:51Drake or that could not have aged better for Dave, unfortunately.

01:07:55Yeah.

01:07:56I was...

01:07:57Oh, sorry.

01:07:57Go ahead.

01:07:57He could win NFL MVP.

01:07:59Perhaps.

01:07:59It would be tough, but the way he's played...

01:08:01If you throw out the first two games, which you don't, he's played unbelievably.

01:08:05No, I know.

01:08:06However many weeks he was bad for, he was literally statistically the worst in the NFL, and he's

01:08:10literally been the best.

01:08:11I think by the time we get to week 17 and we see the whole body of work, you could

01:08:14probably

01:08:15throw out the first couple of weeks.

01:08:16If the next 15 is as good as it has been, you could.

01:08:18Cody, does that scare you at all?

01:08:21That Drake Mays back, the big bag boogeyman, your arch rival, the Patriots, already having

01:08:26one in Buffalo, how are we feeling?

01:08:28No.

01:08:30Good point, Cody.

01:08:31Does that answer your question?

01:08:32Technically, yes.

01:08:34But it does show...

01:08:35It was an answer.

01:08:37You are scared, though, because you want to expound on it.

01:08:40He's a good player.

01:08:40You have no great argument?

01:08:42I guess we'll find out.

01:08:44AJ Brown is a problem, is a concern at the moment, but we'll see how...

01:08:48You mean not a concern in a...

01:08:50You're saying like a concern that he could ruin the team?

01:08:53Bad drops.

01:08:54Really bad drops.

01:08:55Really bad drops.

01:08:55So it would hurt the numbers of Drake Mays.

01:08:57We'll see.

01:08:58How confident are you 1-10 that at least one team outside the top 12 currently will make

01:09:05the college football playoff?

01:09:08Gotta be.

01:09:09Just as a function of the schedule and everybody having to play one another down the stretch

01:09:14here, people are going to fall and rise.

01:09:18Iowa's making the playoff.

01:09:20I've been hammering Iowa to the playoff all season long.

01:09:25We'll see if they finish the fight out.

01:09:27Also, by the way, you're just guaranteed a team outside the top 12 to make the playoff.

01:09:31Who's falling out?

01:09:32The G6 spot.

01:09:35Oh, yeah, true.

01:09:36Well, let's remove that from the equipment.

01:09:39I think Iowa's making the playoff.

01:09:40I think SMU's got a pretty decent little chance at the playoff.

01:09:44I think one of the two lost SEC teams I think will make it out of Alabama, LSU, Texas.

01:09:49LSU would be...

01:09:50I did this on the show the other night.

01:09:51I believe LSU, Bama, Texas.

01:09:53I would favor LSU.

01:09:54I think they have the inside track.

01:09:55They host both Texas and Alabama.

01:09:57Yeah, yeah.

01:09:59I genuinely think every 14 through 17 could all...

01:10:03There's a scenario where all four of those teams make the playoff.

01:10:06I'm sorry.

01:10:06Where 14 through 17 all make the playoff.

01:10:08Can I throw one out?

01:10:09Mm-hmm.

01:10:10I see one that's not in the top 25 in a major conference that is not dead.

01:10:15Ooh.

01:10:16Let me think.

01:10:17Uh-oh.

01:10:17I mean, technically you could say Michigan, but I don't think it's Michigan.

01:10:21JMU?

01:10:22Nope.

01:10:23What are you doing?

01:10:23Oregon?

01:10:24Oregon.

01:10:25They're getting injured Ohio State in a couple of weeks.

01:10:28Yeah.

01:10:29Assuming Dante Moore is back.

01:10:30Yeah.

01:10:30If Dante Moore comes back, they're not dead.

01:10:33That's all.

01:10:34Just, just, just, just...

01:10:35I can't.

01:10:35It's true.

01:10:36It's hard to imagine, but they're not dead.

01:10:38I don't know what they...

01:10:39I don't know if you guys stayed up to watch that Nebraska-Oregon game.

01:10:42I actually didn't.

01:10:43I was so exhausted after the day I forgot about it.

01:10:46The fact they did not play Rayola the whole game is so embarrassing.

01:10:50Like, he was so far ahead of the other guy.

01:10:54Okay, but time out.

01:10:55The, the, the previous week, Rayola had the worst game I've ever seen in my life.

01:10:58He had one body, he had one bad body of work, but I think the body of work of his

01:11:01entire

01:11:02career is at least worth taking a shot.

01:11:03I, I guess I'm just saying that, well, I don't know if it is one bad body of work.

01:11:07He's had one good body of work.

01:11:09Sure.

01:11:09Which is at odds with the rest of his career.

01:11:11But beyond that, if Lanny was making that choice, they're seeing some of that practice

01:11:15where Rayola's not like ripping this job off.

01:11:16I'm not the ultimate Rayola guy.

01:11:18I think he's been overrated for a good portion of his career, but I still think if you saw

01:11:22it, I don't know what that other guy could have shown you in practice to be like, he's

01:11:25worth starting in the Big Ten because he did not have it.

01:11:27I mean, why is Nebraska so cursed, though?

01:11:30It's, it really is.

01:11:31They're not cursed.

01:11:32They're just not a good program anymore.

01:11:33They're not cursed.

01:11:34They're just...

01:11:35No, no, no.

01:11:35Brandon, no.

01:11:35Whatever Osborne had.

01:11:36But it goes beyond that because I'm not saying they're not, of course they're not Nebraska

01:11:39of old.

01:11:40You have to mathematically trip and stumble into winning one of these moments at a certain

01:11:46point.

01:11:46You have to.

01:11:47Sometimes you are who you are.

01:11:49Speaking of, confidence level that Mississippi State will win more than two games for the

01:11:53rest of the season.

01:11:57What kind of question is that?

01:11:59Before I answer this...

01:12:00Shut up!

01:12:01Once, once Kamario gets healthy, that game against LSU doesn't count.

01:12:05If Kamario's healthy, we're beating Oklahoma this week.

01:12:07If not, we won't.

01:12:08Fine.

01:12:08Um, Texas, okay, but we're beating Vanderbilt, we're beating Auburn, we're beating Tennessee

01:12:12Tech, no problem.

01:12:13What are we even talking about?

01:12:15We said more than two games, so Vandy and Tennessee Tech, you gotta get one.

01:12:18At Auburn!

01:12:18Yeah, yeah, maybe.

01:12:19At home?

01:12:20Are you kidding me?

01:12:21No crabs.

01:12:22When is Kamario getting back?

01:12:24It's turf tone.

01:12:25Never quite goes away.

01:12:25I believe he could play this week.

01:12:28I would put my confidence at 51% he plays this week.

01:12:31Alright, my confidence at 51% that Mississippi State will win more than two games.

01:12:35What's the line on Oklahoma this week?

01:12:38For sure he will be, let's say it's turf, for sure he'll be back by Vanderbilt, Auburn,

01:12:42and Tennessee Tech.

01:12:42If Kamario Taylor and Fluff Bothwell play, we're winning those three, no problem.

01:12:46I'm giving you Vandy and Tennessee Tech for sure, and I think you probably win Auburn,

01:12:49that's why I'm at a five.

01:12:50Okay, so it's Oklahoma by three.

01:12:52Three and a half.

01:12:53Pick them.

01:12:54What kind of question is this?

01:12:55Okay, that's .5 wins, .5 wins.

01:12:57It was a personal attack question.

01:12:58You're all stupid.

01:12:59They're going after.

01:13:00I'm cussing.

01:13:01I'm cussing next segment.

01:13:02Guys, now you're going to make them curse producers.

01:13:04Yeah, that's an average of three wins.

01:13:09Your expected value is three wins.

01:13:10How long is this segment, by the way?

01:13:12I've been having to pee for a while.

01:13:14Well, guess what?

01:13:15Go hit the John.

01:13:16Don't touch it.

01:13:17Because coming up next, it's time to hit the ball.

01:13:19With a little World Series preview, Ebo's going to tell you who has the edge

01:13:23and the most important facets of the game.

01:13:25Coming up next, we're live from Chicago.

01:13:27This is Whoop.

01:13:33It's time to play ball with Ebo's baseball bonanza.

01:13:39This camera is so tight on my face.

01:13:40It makes me feel like I have a Facebook video, which I probably do.

01:13:42This is real TV, Ebo.

01:13:43I know.

01:13:44It's really intimidating.

01:13:46The producers asked me this morning to kind of sort out who has an edge

01:13:50somewhere in the series.

01:13:52And it was very difficult.

01:13:53I would say these two teams are the same, two different sides of the same coin.

01:13:58They are very similar how they are constructed.

01:14:02And if you were to rank them based off all of these things,

01:14:04I think it's very tight.

01:14:05So if you disagree with me, that's fine.

01:14:08Go ahead.

01:14:08Ebo, we were texting about this.

01:14:10These are two teams that are very analytically driven, obviously,

01:14:13and probably at the forefront.

01:14:15But they're also the most complete teams in how they play, right?

01:14:21They're not all about the absolute outcomes.

01:14:24They're willing to engage in the various forms that make baseball wonderful.

01:14:29Yeah, and that comes to fruition.

01:14:31You see that in the data when you look at ISO slugging.

01:14:33ISO slugging is basically your slugging percentage minus your average.

01:14:36So basically, what are your bases worth, you know?

01:14:38What are we talking about?

01:14:39And they're about 26, 27.

01:14:40It's basically how much are you boom or bust.

01:14:42They're 26, 27.

01:14:44The only one I can look at and say I definitely know which one is going to lean

01:14:48is power, right?

01:14:49Like power is the only one.

01:14:50The Rays definitely have more power.

01:14:52I'm going to give the edge and starting pitcher to the Brewers.

01:14:54Okay.

01:14:54This is simply a Mizorowski thing where I think if you have the number one guy

01:14:58at such an elite level going into a series like this,

01:15:01you have the advantage.

01:15:02I think, obviously, you think of Yamamoto last year in the World Series.

01:15:06Madison Bumgarner obviously had the run he had in the World Series.

01:15:09But this is still very close.

01:15:10I was going to say, is Peralta, is he maybe a revenge game type thing?

01:15:15Yeah.

01:15:16So it's Rasmussen is obviously very good.

01:15:18So I don't think that Brewers buy a hair here.

01:15:22Okay.

01:15:22Brewers buy a hair here.

01:15:23I'm also going to give it a bullpen to the Brewers.

01:15:26They've been so good in this postseason.

01:15:28What was it?

01:15:29Six perfect innings or was it five perfect innings in that game?

01:15:33MLB postseason history.

01:15:34Ashby throws bowling balls deal.

01:15:36Hall throws gas out of the pen.

01:15:38Uribe is a monster.

01:15:39McGill is a monster.

01:15:40So you have depth in the bullpen, too.

01:15:42The Rays obviously have a ton of guys that can get you out as well.

01:15:46I just think that the way the Brewers have been pitching,

01:15:48I would give the edge here, slight nod to the Brewers.

01:15:51All right.

01:15:51Any disagreement?

01:15:52Any issue?

01:15:53No.

01:15:54I'm with you.

01:15:54No, but again, we have to be clear because it's going to look.

01:15:57It's going to look like I'm going to look lopsided.

01:15:59It's going to look like zero-sum, but yes, these are very close.

01:16:02If I had a scale here, I would put it like here and here.

01:16:07Yeah.

01:16:07It'd be 51-49.

01:16:09Yeah.

01:16:09How about that?

01:16:11Power.

01:16:12So this is purely a junior coming RO category.

01:16:18I don't think either of these teams is very power-driven.

01:16:20They don't rely on the home run a ton.

01:16:23He's still rounding the bases.

01:16:24But if you're thinking of, like, who's got the puncher,

01:16:26who's got the knockout punch guy in this series,

01:16:29I think it's the Rays, even though Contreras has been good,

01:16:32Terang is good.

01:16:33You've got guys that can – Jake Bowers, obviously, in the NLCS

01:16:36was thinking for a lot of power.

01:16:37Garrett Mitchell swings the bat hard.

01:16:39Like, this is just a junior coming RO stat, essentially,

01:16:43or category here for me.

01:16:45Literal fastest bat in the majors, right?

01:16:47I just noticed because all the focus is on this home run trot.

01:16:52It's absurd he hit that ball out of the park.

01:16:54Yes.

01:16:54Did you see where that pitch was?

01:16:56Super inside.

01:16:58Also, I know we can't play with audio,

01:17:01but their schmack on the foul pole is pretty sweet.

01:17:05Very reminiscent of the Judge Homer, if you remember,

01:17:07from last year.

01:17:10So, defense, this is, again, one where it depends on how you want to look at it.

01:17:15If you want to go by baseball savant, outs above average,

01:17:18you'd probably give it to the Brewers.

01:17:19They had a better outs above average this year than the Rays did.

01:17:23They have very good defenders all over the field.

01:17:24Every outfielder in this series is a 90th percentile baseball savant defender.

01:17:28But you need to give it to the Rays for the traffic.

01:17:29So, why are we giving it to the Rays?

01:17:32But, if you go by defensive runs saved, Tampa Bay Rays blow them out of the water.

01:17:36It's really, I think with defensive metrics, it's kind of whatever you want to taste.

01:17:40You know, like some people like steak, some people like chicken.

01:17:42Okay.

01:17:42But these teams are the Spider-Man meme, right?

01:17:44Yeah, it's like two sides, yeah, like I said, two sides of the same coin.

01:17:47They're very similar teams.

01:17:49Again, this is a very thin margin to the Rays in terms of defense,

01:17:52just based off, you know, they make the plays.

01:17:55And I will say, it's been the hardest outfield to get a base hit against

01:17:59in the entire major leagues.

01:18:00They cover so much ground.

01:18:01Zaluca, Simpson, and Victor Mace has been a speed demon.

01:18:03I think this is also very tight, but I will give it to the Rays.

01:18:07I was going to say, was there any consideration to having a speed category?

01:18:12Because I think I...

01:18:13Great question.

01:18:13I feel like watching Chandler Simpson this postseason has been

01:18:15one of the most delightful aspects of it.

01:18:18Our graphics makers only do it in fives.

01:18:20Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

01:18:22Last one, manager.

01:18:25I'm of the belief that manager is not really that impactful in Major League Baseball.

01:18:29I think it's a network, it's a chain of command of multiple decision makers

01:18:33who help put a manager in a good spot.

01:18:35And I'm not sure how much the manager actually impacted the game.

01:18:38But Pat Murphy did have the moment after they've sweeped the Dodgers

01:18:42where he talked about how he set up David Hamilton.

01:18:44Yeah.

01:18:44And I think that's...

01:18:45Yeah, that was pretty cool.

01:18:45That's very intriguing.

01:18:46And I think that sort of, you know, chess play a little bit could come into their favor.

01:18:51And I think Kevin Cash is a little more robotic, I think people would say.

01:18:54You look back at the other World Series where he took Blake Snell out of the game

01:18:57because that was the philosophy of the Rays.

01:18:59I think if you're looking for an edge here, it might be in the gamesmanship

01:19:02and a guy like Pat Murphy.

01:19:03So, the Murphy story that you are alluded to, if people don't know it,

01:19:09he basically, like, accepted a bunt out to create better pitches for him in the future.

01:19:15How'd it work?

01:19:16Yes.

01:19:16He said he basically took him to bat, said go bunt it.

01:19:19They won't treat you with respect if they think you're going up there

01:19:22not to be competitive in at-bats.

01:19:23And then the rest of the game hits the big home run.

01:19:26Yeah.

01:19:26But yeah, I think, like, the little minute things like that,

01:19:30he does have the college baseball fingerprints all over this team at times.

01:19:34Benching guys, not hustling out doubles.

01:19:36So, we'll see how it comes to fruition in this series.

01:19:39But yeah, I would give a slight edge.

01:19:41And again, this looks like it's close.

01:19:45I didn't do it just for the graphic to make it close.

01:19:48But it is close.

01:19:48Like, I think you could literally flip a coin in any of these categories

01:19:51and give it to either team based off how you view the game.

01:19:55Evo, World Series X factor.

01:19:58What is it?

01:20:01Put the X's up, boys.

01:20:02It's got to be Kevin Kelly, the raised set-up guy who I play Little League Baseball with.

01:20:07Former Burke Bulldog.

01:20:08First JMU Major League Baseball player to ever reach a World Series.

01:20:12Kevin Kelly is my X factor.

01:20:13Okay.

01:20:14What about the home fields?

01:20:17It is a little wonky, huh?

01:20:19Yeah, like, the Brewers is going to be absolutely crazy.

01:20:24They haven't seen a World Series in 44 years.

01:20:26It's going to be, you know, is that something that could throw the Rays off?

01:20:29I'm not saying, maybe.

01:20:31I mean, they're both, I mean, we don't know.

01:20:33No idea.

01:20:34The Trouf was finally rocking the other night.

01:20:36The Trouf was rocking the other night.

01:20:37This does kind of remind me of a college football game from, like, 2011, I want to say, where

01:20:44two teams that had unbelievable skill met in the game of the century, and it was 6-3.

01:20:49Because they were so evenly matched.

01:20:519-6.

01:20:51But I like that you chose that one, not the National Championship match.

01:20:54No, but it reminds me of that.

01:20:55I thought you were doing bits here.

01:20:57It felt like two teams that were so evenly matched, what they did, that they couldn't get anything going.

01:21:00I feel like that could be what we see in this.

01:21:02I love this because I don't think I've ever seen such a disparity between, like, these

01:21:07are not big brands.

01:21:08The MLB doesn't want this, but these are objectively the two best teams in baseball all year long.

01:21:13Yeah, by record and by, yeah.

01:21:15Yeah, there's nobody.

01:21:15Nobody got hot.

01:21:16It's not a Cinderella run.

01:21:18These are two big dogs going at it.

01:21:20And so let's get to some picks.

01:21:21Chody, who wins the World Series?

01:21:23Did you call him Chody?

01:21:25No, I said Cody.

01:21:27Ebo, you go first.

01:21:28I think I'll go Brewers here.

01:21:29I think they get their first World Series.

01:21:32Yeah, I, my problem with my perception of the Rays, and this is only unique to me,

01:21:38is that whenever the Orioles play the Rays, and obviously I'm biased, we win.

01:21:43Like, we have a winning record against the Rays for the last three years.

01:21:45So, like, to me, like, the Rays are beatable, but then you see they go out.

01:21:48They win close to 100 games this year.

01:21:50They kind of roll through the playoffs soon, except.

01:21:53So, but I think the Brewers are so complete.

01:21:56They do everything right, top to bottom.

01:21:58There's not really a hole anywhere, so I think I'll be Brewers.

01:22:00Connor Griffin.

01:22:01David, I'm rolling with the Brew Crew as well.

01:22:03I love beer, cheese.

01:22:05I love cheese curds.

01:22:06I love beer just in general.

01:22:08I like beer and cheese, essentially, is my best thing.

01:22:09Yeah, okay.

01:22:10I'm rolling with the Brew Crew.

01:22:11I hope they win.

01:22:12I like beer and cheese, too.

01:22:13And I don't know what to think.

01:22:14Brandon, what do you got?

01:22:15Come on.

01:22:15You already know.

01:22:16Come on.

01:22:17Braves.

01:22:19I'm a Braves fan.

01:22:19Don't do it.

01:22:20They have zero ties to Milwaukee.

01:22:22I got the Brewers.

01:22:23Because I don't know Ebo, I'm, like, freed from actual analysis.

01:22:28And like I said, Chandler Simpson's so fast.

01:22:30I'm going Rays.

01:22:32I mean, let's go.

01:22:33Video for everyone to go watch at home.

01:22:35Go look up Chandler Simpson scoring from second on a sack fly.

01:22:38Speed kills.

01:22:39Oh, I got to see that right now.

01:22:40I'm going to love that.

01:22:41Chody, what do you got?

01:22:42When it comes to giving the beer makers more money, that's Brewers Rays, I'm going Tampa Bay.

01:22:50What did I miss?

01:22:51Tampa Bay's the pick.

01:22:53Giving the Brewers a raise.

01:22:54Oh, my God.

01:22:55Okay.

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