00:00The Philadelphia Eagles, two-time Pro Bowl center, playing guard this year out of necessity.
00:07And as the stats have said, Vinny, not playing it all that great.
00:12No.
00:12But we'll get into that as the show rolls on in concussion protocol, I believe, right now.
00:18Yes.
00:19Because he got banged up in their last game.
00:21He wasn't even, Bob, making the trip to London or wherever they're playing.
00:25He was not going to be on the trip.
00:26But so Cam Juergens comes in, Ravens sacrifice a fifth round in 27, second rounder, 28.
00:35And at my age, Utrecht Betts didn't kiss my ass.
00:39I'm all about the immediate.
00:41Let's get this guy in here and help the team.
00:44But we also heard Jesse talking about the offensive schemes and getting caught up to speed and coming from the
00:50Philly system.
00:51And then you had Doyle, by the way of Ben Johnson, Sean Payton.
00:56I mean, there's a whole tree there.
00:59Is this something that would take him time to, health permitting, lamp himself into?
01:06It might take him a little long.
01:10You know, the coordinators he's been with, I think the one, I think, isn't Robinson the guy they have now
01:16or something?
01:16I think he came from the Rams.
01:17So that's West Coast.
01:20That's Kyle Shanahan.
01:21It's still zone stuff.
01:22And the thing that makes Juergens fit so well is he's athletic.
01:28And that's the same thing that they do in Philly.
01:30They're reach blocking and doing those things.
01:32And that's why they would want him.
01:35Now, he's been hurt the last couple years.
01:39And like this year, yeah, he has not been playing well at all.
01:43But last year he had, and like you said yesterday, Bob, he had the back surgery.
01:47And he was hurt a lot last year.
01:51The year before he played very well, where he was a legitimate Pro Bowl center.
01:57So does that help the team?
01:59I think this, Bob, and I've said it for like four or five or probably a week now.
02:05I thought that Venga could be the best center in the league.
02:10But then, you know, you go to Declan and you say, okay, what is the most important?
02:18Is it more important for you to have a great guard or a great center?
02:25And I'm talking about Venga because I think Venga can be great at either.
02:29And it sounds like guard is, you know, more valuable than the center.
02:37But they feel like they have a really good center now in Juergens.
02:41So where does Venga go?
02:45I think this year Bobby goes to right guard.
02:47Next year he goes to left guard.
02:49And then Emory Jones Jr. is the right guard next year.
02:52And Juergens is the center.
02:53And then you've got three young guys.
02:55And that would seem to be the master plan when they drafted Venga in the first place.
02:59And when they brought Simpson and John Simpson to play left guard, then Venga would do his rookie tour, if
03:06you will, at right guard and assume left guard for years and years and years.
03:10Remember, Jonathan Ogden was drafted as a tackle, number four overall pick out of UCLA, and played guard for the
03:18Ravens his rookie year because they had booking Tony Jones.
03:22I mean, they had tackles that could play and eventually moved to left tackle his sophomore year and became, you
03:27know, Hall of Famer, arguably one of the greatest left tackles ever.
03:31But you bringing up Venga at center, I'm very intrigued and excited by the possibilities of him being that dude,
03:44man.
03:44And look, as we just talked about, Juergens not rating out well a guard this year for penalties and tons
03:53of missed blocks and all that good stuff.
03:56But what if Venga goes out Sunday against Atlanta and plays like, you know, one of the great centers, plays
04:05like Ray Donaldson or somebody like that.
04:07But, Bob, more so than that, what if Emory Jones Jr. has a hell of a game?
04:11Yeah.
04:14Because I thought he got better.
04:16And, you know, now with the confidence, I'm sure when they traded for Juergens, Emory Jones Jr., like, eh.
04:25You know, because he knows that, you know, that he's.
04:28Because Simpson gets status because they signed him as a pre-agent veteran, I guess.
04:34Yeah.
04:34Isn't it all performance-based, ultimately, though?
04:39You would think.
04:41The only thing is, is I don't think Venga's taken any reps at the left guard.
04:47You know, and you say, well, that should be easy.
04:49I want to say that if you're left guard, you put your left hand down.
04:54And if you're right guard, you put your right hand down.
04:55So it's a little different.
04:57But I'm sure Venga, I mean, heck, if he, you know, moved to center during the middle of the game,
05:03he could handle playing left guard, and I'm sure Emory Jones Jr. could, too.
05:07But it'll be, well, it's a good problem to have if both those guys play great Sunday night.
05:13And Simpson, you know, if Simpson, what if Simpson plays bad and the other two play great?
05:19You know, so they have, gives you some options, I guess.
05:22But for sure, getting Cam Juergens, they gave up some capital, they have to pay him.
05:28He's playing.
05:29Oh, yeah, he's making pretty good bucks.
05:31How effective he will be remains to be seen at what position as well.
05:36Vidi and Haiti, 105.7, the fan, total request Thursday.
05:39Pick a song, we'll play it, send a request.
05:41Green told the tax line at 410583.
05:441057, Dolan's on the other side of the glass.
05:46No Lamar practice yesterday.
05:49And we're going to hear Jesse Mentor talking about that as the show rolls on.
05:53Didn't rule him out.
05:55Even said he could play without practicing this week.
06:00But usually, Vinny, that's not a recipe for success.
06:04Yeah.
06:05Bob, I did ask my wife, I said, I said, hey, Becky.
06:08I said, they said it's not a low ankle and it's not a high ankle.
06:14I said, is there a middle ankle?
06:15She said, I've never heard of a middle ankle.
06:17She said, there's a, like a mid ankle?
06:23There's a different type of ankle sprain that is on the inside or it's on the opposite side or whatever.
06:29And if you tore ligaments, then you miss.
06:33That was Ian Rappaport.
06:34Yeah.
06:35Said it was not a high or low ankle sprain.
06:38It was a unique injury.
06:39So, if he tore, what she said is, if he tore ligaments, then it's a few, then it could be
06:47a couple weeks.
06:47But if he didn't tear ligaments, then you could tape it up and probably go.
06:54All right.
06:55The trade went down.
06:56We were on the air when it happened.
06:58Almost 24 hours ago.
06:59You've had a chance, ladies and gentlemen, to dissect and do your research and understand the needs and the sacrifices
07:06the Ravens gave up capital-wise.
07:08Are you cool with the deal?
07:10Cam Juergens comes to Baltimore.
07:11We'll talk about this.
07:12Tom Kelly from WIP up in Philly.
07:15He'll be joining us at 1230.
07:17And let us know what the Ravens, in fact, are getting with a two-time pro bowler.
07:22So, feel free to do so.
07:23Lamar, don't go.
07:25Are the Ravens in trouble?
07:26I said it yesterday, and Vic Carucci, we were talking to him, even if Lamar plays, it's not going to
07:33be an easy game.
07:34No.
07:34And it's obviously not going to be Lamar at 100%.
07:36No.
07:37So, Atlanta, I'm more concerned, Vinny, with what they bring to the equation offensively, which we'll talk about when we
07:44break them down on film.
07:46Yep.
07:46The last two games, they put up 80 points.
07:50Oh, I know.
07:51And games in which they were expected to lose, and they won pretty convincingly.
07:57So, Penix, does he lighten the dial?
08:01No.
08:02But he's brought an element that Cooper Rush certainly wasn't bringing to the equation.
08:07Yeah, I think he brings some confidence.
08:09And I think the ability to throw the football where Cooper Rush couldn't.
08:13And all of a sudden, Bijan is, you know, unbelievable.
08:19I still think this, Bob.
08:21I think this is a game, even if Lamar doesn't play, defense can win this game.
08:29And has the defense played great this year?
08:31Not consistently.
08:32Not for a whole game.
08:33No.
08:34So, they're going to have to play a sound, fundamental game and tackle well and not have dumb penalties.
08:41You know, not give explosive plays.
08:43Because if they lunge to try to tackle Bijan, if they lunge and leave their feet, they're getting air with
08:51this guy.
08:51It's going to be the best back that they'll see all year.
08:55So, this is going to be a challenge for the defense.
08:58And I'm sure that that's what Jesse's preaching all week.
09:02This is going to be the best back that you play against.
09:04Might be the best receiver that you play against, too.
09:07So, it's a big challenge for the defense.
09:11And we're going to get into the schedule, too, for the Ravens, which now gets a little more difficult here.
09:15Oh, boy, yes, it does.
09:16Moving forward.
09:17So, they're 3-1.
09:18Lucky to be 3-1.
09:20Hey, they could be 4-0.
09:21But the record is what it is.
09:23Now you have to navigate through some interesting things.
