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00:00:0716 electronic eyes, 16 video surveillance cameras have been protagonists in some way in this

00:00:13research, research where we have encountered mysteries and also explanations.

00:00:18Modern technology helps us with everything, and modern electronics has changed tremendously.

00:00:25in recent years, and perhaps we are not fully aware of it, but they will find out.

00:00:32Looking at this old museum of yesterday and today. Portable television systems have become

00:00:37What you are seeing, on thin sheets, flat screens, when not long ago they were rocky

00:00:45Devices full of cables and of considerable thickness. What about mobile phones today?

00:00:51Essential? Everyone is interconnected with systems that were quite heavy not long ago

00:00:57a long time. Now, suddenly, as if by magic, we realize that they have reduced their

00:01:03dimension and that they are also capable of amazing things. Not to mention the systems

00:01:11of computing. The old laptops, if you can call them that, barely fit in

00:01:18a conventional room. Look at them. And now? Now they are also true electronic gems.

00:01:25Its components are becoming increasingly refined and increasingly powerful. And why is all this? Well, partly

00:01:32All this thanks to something as rough as an iridescent, bluish rock. Its name remains a mystery.

00:01:42Unknown to the general public. Coltan, columbite tantalum. In some parts of the world this gold

00:01:50Blue is being excavated and some say it's miraculous. A superconductor, but it's also

00:01:57causing much death and is causing too much bloodshed. Reading truth,

00:02:06Did you know that a Coltan heart was sleeping in your mobile phone, or in your computer, or in your screen?

00:02:11From television? And that children are digging it up in inhumane conditions? What's going on?

00:02:18This topic, I assure you above all, is controversial and revealing.

00:03:03I'm going to tell you a story

00:03:06It's curious, because sometimes a book cover has something magnetic, hypnotic about it.

00:03:11It happened a couple of months ago that I saw this cover, which you are seeing now, with some hands,

00:03:17Hands that certainly imply work, surely unfortunate work, and a kind of amalgam of earth

00:03:26where a kind of stones crash, stones that are, as you already know, protagonists of the following story.

00:03:33And a title that, I admit, was also an enigma to me: Coltan or Coltan, what was hidden here?

00:03:42Then came the signature of Alberto Vázquez Figueroa, one of our favorite writers and journalists, without a doubt.

00:03:49And I started to immerse myself in it, and wow, I couldn't believe it.

00:03:53So Alberto had to be here to tell us what part is legend, what part is fiction, what part is imagination,

00:03:57And what part of it is real, because surely one of the most disturbing realities of the 21st century is hidden here.

00:04:04Mr. Alberto Vázquez Figueroa, it is a true pleasure and an honor to have you here with us.

00:04:07Welcome.

00:04:07Thanks all the same.

00:04:09Well, Coltan is a bit smaller, that needs to be made clear, right?

00:04:11Yes, yes, yes.

00:04:11The Coltan stones, the largest one there is, are this size, you can see them there, they are quite something.

00:04:16And are they mixed with the soil?

00:04:17With the land.

00:04:19It is the only way they are found mixed with the soil.

00:04:22Coltan is never found in mines, that's what makes it so worrying, that the day of

00:04:28tomorrow it ends.

00:04:29Because it's not like gold, where you find a vein and follow it, no, this is always on the surface.

00:04:37And from what has recently been observed, it almost always comes from near where there have been volcanoes, or where

00:04:45There are volcanoes.

00:04:45So it must be a result of the ash from volcanic eruptions.

00:04:51Most of it is there in the Congo, in the Virunga area.

00:04:56In this area, besides sustained conflict, many other things happen.

00:05:02Alberto said it's unsettling because, well, we can almost talk about blue gold.

00:05:06Essential gold for everything we've brought to work and for it to become smaller and smaller, to become more and more

00:05:11portable.

00:05:12We depend on Coltan, therefore.

00:05:14But to explain to the thousands and thousands of friends who are now listening and watching you, what is it really?

00:05:20Coltan?

00:05:21When did this story begin?

00:05:22Well, Coltan is a mixture, a combination of the words columbite-tantalite or columbite-tantalum.

00:05:30The dove is useless.

00:05:32Tantalum is a mineral that is infinitely better a conductor of electricity than copper.

00:05:39They say up to 80 times.

00:05:41It is much more heat resistant and has the property that it never rusts, unlike with acid.

00:05:49hydrofluoric acid, which is an acid that practically does not exist normally.

00:05:55That's why it's called Tantalus, because the name comes from Tantalus, meaning "to reject water," the torment of Tantalus, which

00:06:03Tantalus was the one who could not access the water.

00:06:06This mineral has been known for twenty-odd years, this metal has been known since the 1800s, but until

00:06:14Its infinite capabilities were not discovered until about twenty years ago, or twenty-something years ago.

00:06:21Which suddenly made it the basic conductor of all the elements.

00:06:29Thus, mobile phones, those things you might remember as being shaped like a suitcase, became what they are today.

00:06:37today.

00:06:38That computer, which was a monster with a big head on the back, became a flat screen.

00:06:46This television, which a few years ago had something like this on the back, that you had to mount on the wall and

00:06:53Sometimes in the dining room, a hole had to be drilled in the wall to put the television in, and the

00:06:57The back part went out into the next room, that's what it is.

00:07:02That all the radios, which are junk in this workshop, will go from being junk to becoming something

00:07:09So.

00:07:09Having GPS in cars and airplanes is essential for guided weapons.

00:07:18right now for artificial satellites.

00:07:21So our lives have suddenly, in the course of a few years, become dependent on coltan.

00:07:30A few months ago, the directors general of all the ministries, each ministry has an IT department.

00:07:38Then the CEOs, with their entire team, asked me to give them a lecture, and I started by asking them questions.

00:07:46Does anyone know what coltan is?

00:07:48Just one.

00:07:50I knew it was a mineral.

00:07:52That means, and usually 99% of people, even highly educated people, had no idea.

00:08:03That means that those who work with computers, mobile phones, and all modern technology, don't know what they're dealing with.

00:08:11working.

00:08:13I mean, it's a bit like a doctor not knowing what's inside a human body.

00:08:18What's the problem?

00:08:20The world's coltan reserves are very small.

00:08:2310% are in Australia, another 10% are between Thailand and Brazil, and 80% are in

00:08:31the Congo, in the Virunga area.

00:08:34And there, near Kibu, is where a series of wars have recently taken place,

00:08:45which have already resulted in approximately 4 million deaths.

00:08:50They've led us to believe that these were tribal wars between the Tutsis and the Sultus, between Rwanda and Burundi, and

00:08:58the Congo.

00:08:59No, all of that is a war about seizing control of coltan and tantalum.

00:09:08Coltan, the little dove, can be disregarded.

00:09:13What's going on?

00:09:15Countries, especially the major powers, have realized that no one can aspire to dominate oil anymore.

00:09:24which is what everyone wanted before, to control the oil.

00:09:26And you maintain, Alberto, that there is more than we believe, or are led to believe.

00:09:30Infinitely more. Look, back in 1975, during the first oil crisis,

00:09:35The famous Club of Rome, who were geniuses, who then didn't get a single thing right,

00:09:39They said that by 2004 all the oil in the world would have run out.

00:09:45and that the then proven and unique reserves were one billion, one quadrillion barrels.

00:09:542004 has passed. We've spent oil until we're bored.

00:09:59And now proven reserves are eight quadrillion barrels.

00:10:05And every time you kick a rock, there's a news story about a new one being found.

00:10:09new reserve in Brazil, in the sea,

00:10:12another in the North Pole, in the South China Sea, in Guinea and in Santa Isabel and Fernando Pú.

00:10:21How is it possible that we Spaniards were in Guinea for 60 or 70 years?

00:10:29The gentlemen from Hispanoil went there and said there was no oil there.

00:10:34We left there and three years later it was discovered that the vein that runs from Nigeria continues to

00:10:41over there

00:10:42And let there be enough oil to bore the sheep.

00:10:45So, there is oil, Alberto, but there may not be as much coltan.

00:10:48No, whoever controls coltan will control communications.

00:10:53Today, an airplane cannot fly without coltan in its GPS and all its instruments.

00:11:01Neither cars, nor thousands of other things.

00:11:03In other words, the fight is for control of coltan.

00:11:07Of course, all of that is kept very quiet.

00:11:12The companies that manufacture the devices don't want it to be known that thousands of children are dying.

00:11:19because the coltan mines, the deposits, are not mines,

00:11:23The coltan mines are all managed by children.

00:11:27In other words, they put semi-slave or slave children of 7, 8, 10 years old to work

00:11:33that often get buried when they are being taken out, they get buried there and die.

00:11:38Tell us a little about that, Alberto, because I think the first part is clear.

00:11:43I wanted you to explain perfectly the importance of this mineral

00:11:48that happens to us like it happened to me, that I don't know what it is, that people don't know what it is

00:11:51And now the reality of that substance.

00:11:54Look, there they are.

00:11:55They work in these holes and suddenly all that earth collapses on top of them

00:12:00and they are buried, they die.

00:12:02And why are children used? Because of their versatility in getting involved.

00:12:05Because they can get in through those places and because they are very cheap labor

00:12:08And they don't get paid anything either.

00:12:09They are practically there for the food and are kept enslaved.

00:12:14They go into these caves, you see? There they are looking at the cave.

00:12:17They go into one of those caves, they don't have any kind of maintenance,

00:12:20They don't tell them, like in the mines, no, no, no.

00:12:23They go there and suddenly, boom, it falls down.

00:12:25And then it is roughly estimated that for every kilogram of pure coltan

00:12:30There are between two or three dead children.

00:12:42What is being done?

00:12:43Yes, what is being done?

00:12:44Did they win with three or three letters?

00:12:45They won with three magicians.

00:12:48TRUE?

00:12:49I like something sinner, in frank terms.

00:12:51In a decade of dollars, for the ヤ is hard, ISBN 0-0-3,000 to 3,2000 to 10

00:12:53.1.

00:12:54Yes, in a decade of dollars.

00:12:56Here I have gold.

00:12:56How are we starting the year?

00:12:57Where is?

00:12:58We are always there.

00:13:02Do you know what's going on, Alberto? And it's funny, a lot of people will be thinking

00:13:05And he says, well, Alberto, I think he's the greatest creator of bestsellers

00:13:08that he has raised in our country, he will say, well, it's a plot

00:13:11Unfortunately, it's not a plot; then you start to do your research.

00:13:14And everything you say here is real, everything you say about coltan

00:13:17In other words, coltan makes the world go round, right now.

00:13:20Our expert on the whole matter is attending our talk

00:13:24of conspiracies, of the flip side, of reality

00:13:27And it must be acknowledged, when I raised this issue

00:13:29First for our sister program, for Millennium 3

00:13:31The interview with Alberto had a tremendous impact.

00:13:34That's why we're now giving it more of a voice and it fits

00:13:37And Santi Camacho, who knows almost everything that's going on

00:13:40He confessed to me that he was also absolutely surprised

00:13:43Santi, good evening

00:13:44Good evening, Iker

00:13:45The big question is, how does the internet function in a society?

00:13:49We'll see what happens now, then we'll ask Alberto.

00:13:51What would happen if coltan suddenly ran out, or was restricted?

00:13:54But when almost everyone knows about almost everything

00:13:57when almost everyone is focusing on issues that were previously more nebulous

00:14:01What on earth is going on in 2008?

00:14:03This book may have been a revelation.

00:14:06Why did we know so little about coltan?

00:14:08Well, look, thanks to you and through Alberto's book

00:14:13I discovered the existence of coltan and its tremendous importance

00:14:16Well, I felt a little stung in my pride.

00:14:19And this is so important because I didn't know it.

00:14:23And I began to investigate why I didn't know.

00:14:25And why didn't you know?

00:14:27and why most of our viewers didn't know it

00:14:30And I discovered something that, if I say it, will be a very serious accusation.

00:14:33but I can reaffirm myself in it

00:14:36And that's because many high-tech companies

00:14:39or aeronautical equipment, etc., etc.

00:14:43who have very large advertising accounts

00:14:48in the media

00:14:50On certain occasions they have exerted pressure

00:14:53so that the stories, especially those that relate

00:14:55Coltan with them and coltan with child abuse

00:14:59with the blood that is shed in the Congo war

00:15:02and in general throughout the conflict zone

00:15:06did not appear in the media

00:15:07We are talking about very important multinational companies

00:15:11And that accusation is there, it's on the internet, it's in the media

00:15:15and it has merit

00:15:17So yes, there has possibly been foul play.

00:15:19who has tried to take us all away

00:15:22The history of coltan and its importance in the world

00:15:25Do you agree, Alberto?

00:15:26Yes, of course, I knew that was the case.

00:15:28and I also say it at a certain point in the book

00:15:31with those similar words

00:15:33That was the way it was, and that's how it happened.

00:15:35The thing is, I've lived in Africa for many years.

00:15:38I have lived a total of 21 years in Africa

00:15:40I know that area

00:15:41as I mentioned before

00:15:43That's where I had one of the confrontations.

00:15:45one of the biggest scares of my life

00:15:47A male gorilla appeared 8 or 10 meters away.

00:15:51And I'm still remembering it.

00:15:53a terrible fright

00:15:55back then I had heard about all those things

00:15:58that there was a mineral there

00:16:00But those things

00:16:02until one day

00:16:04I asked a friend of mine, a mercenary.

00:16:07What's going on?

00:16:08What's happening?

00:16:09You don't know what's going on

00:16:10the mineral, that's it

00:16:12the magic mineral

00:16:13That's magic metal.

00:16:15That is the future of humanity

00:16:19Of course, one has one's journalistic spirit

00:16:21and I started investigating

00:16:24And that's it, that's it

00:16:26nowadays via the internet

00:16:27You start calling all your friends

00:16:29and to say, "What do you know about this?"

00:16:30What do you know about this?

00:16:30immediately the good things you have

00:16:31It's that you start receiving a lot of information

00:16:34And you say, well

00:16:35Here's an important topic

00:16:37Nobody could pressure me

00:16:39No company could pressure me.

00:16:41so that I don't write about it

00:16:43Thank God

00:16:45I am a free writer or journalist

00:16:48which sometimes goes very badly for me

00:16:50But it makes me feel really bad.

00:16:51Have you said anything to me, Alberto?

00:16:53after the book

00:16:53after the repercussions

00:16:54which is also having this book

00:16:56none of those calls a little

00:16:57Well, when I...

00:16:59He knew he was writing it.

00:17:01You always receive a call

00:17:04That's happened to me with everything.

00:17:05I remember when I wrote

00:17:06Living off the Wind

00:17:07accusing them of the crime they represented

00:17:10wind turbines

00:17:11and the dirty business

00:17:13which is the one from wind turbines

00:17:16They called me too

00:17:19When I told Mr. Al Gore

00:17:22who was preaching

00:17:24that in Spain what had to be put

00:17:25It was more wind turbines

00:17:27And I said

00:17:28That's a crime

00:17:29And that's outrageous.

00:17:29And Spain is going to cost us a fortune

00:17:31And it's destroying Spain.

00:17:32And he got very upset

00:17:34because I told him so

00:17:35but after 15 days

00:17:36bought 10% of Avengoa

00:17:38which is the largest

00:17:40wind turbine manufacturer

00:17:41Many people also told me

00:17:43Oh, you're going to have a problem.

00:17:45But one thing is very clear.

00:17:46me in my early twenties

00:17:48He was a diving instructor

00:17:50then I went for many years

00:17:51war correspondent

00:17:52where the shots that lose you

00:17:53It's real

00:17:55You say, "What's wrong?"

00:17:56at my age

00:17:57I'm going to get scared

00:17:58because I come to a mendecate

00:17:59and he threatens me

00:18:02it's the same

00:18:03to me, the skin

00:18:04that was really worth it

00:18:06and he was young

00:18:06and it was smooth

00:18:07and it was

00:18:08I had it when I was in my early twenties

00:18:10If then, I won't.

00:18:11worried

00:18:12take the risk

00:18:13And now I'm worried.

00:18:17would mean

00:18:17that I've grown old

00:18:18that I have become a coward

00:18:20that a guy

00:18:21It might scare me

00:18:25and right now

00:18:26at this point

00:18:26Who's going to scare me?

00:18:28Did I get scared again?

00:18:31I got scared again

00:19:07How is the coltan war going?

00:19:08Alberto, right now?

00:19:09equal

00:19:10What is the exact situation?

00:19:12What's going on?

00:19:12Why those millions of deaths?

00:19:14And who is disputing?

00:19:15Does that magic metal exist?

00:19:16There are many companies

00:19:17American companies

00:19:19Look at that

00:19:20The Kazakhs are involved

00:19:21Kazakhstan

00:19:22the daughter of

00:19:25ex

00:19:26president

00:19:27from Kazakhstan

00:19:28and her husband

00:19:28They were one of the biggest

00:19:32traffickers

00:19:32of all this

00:19:34they are involved

00:19:35Belgians a lot

00:19:36because we must remember

00:19:37that the Congo

00:19:37was Belgian

00:19:38a long time

00:19:39and now it seems

00:19:40that are intervening

00:19:41many the Chinese

00:19:42Did the Chinese too?

00:19:43Do they want to get closer to coltane?

00:19:45But the Chinese are going

00:19:45They are apparently

00:19:46peaceably

00:19:48What they are trying to do is

00:19:49buy the mines

00:19:51there too

00:19:53it has been learned

00:19:54that there has been

00:19:55an attempt

00:19:56by one

00:19:57large company

00:19:58gigantic

00:19:59American

00:20:00the company that caused

00:20:01the Iraq war

00:20:02and that he became rich

00:20:04so brutally

00:20:05that belongs

00:20:06to Dick Cheney

00:20:07This company

00:20:10intended to do

00:20:11a

00:20:13a business

00:20:14a little curious

00:20:14that is to say

00:20:15they bought

00:20:16a lot of coltan

00:20:17at a high price

00:20:19They took him

00:20:20to Brazil

00:20:21and they took him out

00:20:22from Brazil

00:20:23making believe

00:20:25which was

00:20:26coltan

00:20:26Brazilian

00:20:27than in Brazil

00:20:28had met

00:20:29large mines

00:20:29of coltan

00:20:30and they began

00:20:31to sell it

00:20:32much cheaper

00:20:33I mean

00:20:34doing

00:20:35what is called

00:20:35a dumping

00:20:37in such a way

00:20:38that way

00:20:40made the prices

00:20:41of the

00:20:43deposits

00:20:44Congolese

00:20:44they will start to go down

00:20:46and on the other hand

00:20:47They bought them

00:20:49That was a business

00:20:51what is done

00:20:52sometimes

00:20:52that is to say

00:20:52spoil

00:20:54to the opponent

00:20:55by lowering it

00:20:56prices

00:20:56lower the prices

00:20:57even with his own

00:20:58product

00:20:59and when it is done

00:21:00You keep it

00:21:00and then you go up

00:21:01whatever you want

00:21:02but that

00:21:04that maneuver

00:21:05It appears to have failed

00:21:06because the government

00:21:08Congolese

00:21:08realized

00:21:09and he stopped it

00:21:10ending with coltane

00:21:12And now we'll talk.

00:21:12Alberto

00:21:13if you like

00:21:13What's happening?

00:21:13if this runs out

00:21:15Santi

00:21:15There have been characters

00:21:16very much like novels

00:21:18by Alberto Figueroa

00:21:19but also real

00:21:20that now

00:21:21right now

00:21:21at this time

00:21:22they will be wandering around Africa

00:21:25with a curious motivation

00:21:26No?

00:21:26and with coltan in the background

00:21:27well yes

00:21:28because not only

00:21:29in the conflict

00:21:30from the Congo

00:21:31and in the conflict

00:21:32from Rwanda

00:21:33is having an impact

00:21:34coltan

00:21:34but also

00:21:35in neighboring Uganda

00:21:36Uganda

00:21:37a war has passed

00:21:39also 10 years old

00:21:40and one of the protagonists

00:21:42of that war

00:21:42It's Joseph Kony

00:21:43Joseph Kony

00:21:44is the creator

00:21:45of the army

00:21:46resistance

00:21:47of Mr.

00:21:47is a character

00:21:49resistance

00:21:49of Mr.

00:21:51is a character

00:21:52very curious

00:21:52because

00:21:54their motivations

00:21:56They are medium

00:21:56path between

00:21:57religious

00:21:58and the political

00:21:58He is a visionary

00:22:00says he has

00:22:01divine revelations

00:22:02and wants to establish

00:22:04a regime

00:22:05based on the 10 commandments

00:22:07or in its interpretation

00:22:08of the 10 commandments

00:22:08because the guy

00:22:09is exceptionally cruel

00:22:11raids villages

00:22:13and for example

00:22:14for discards

00:22:15amputates hands

00:22:16noses and ears

00:22:17to all the inhabitants

00:22:19For example

00:22:19and one of the sources

00:22:21financing

00:22:22by Kony

00:22:24it is precisely

00:22:25smuggling

00:22:27from Koltán

00:22:29the smugglers

00:22:31Kazakhs

00:22:31those he was referring to

00:22:32Alberto

00:22:33Uganda

00:22:33It is one of its bases

00:22:35main

00:22:36He has committed robberies

00:22:38mine countermeasures

00:22:39and against transport

00:22:41from Koltán

00:22:41He doesn't extract

00:22:42directly

00:22:43but directly

00:22:44steals

00:22:44or purchase

00:22:45at a low price

00:22:46or purchase

00:22:46under duress

00:22:48to other sites

00:22:49and traffics

00:22:50and traffics in it

00:22:51and Kony too

00:22:52sadly

00:22:54celebrated

00:22:54in the conflict

00:22:55from Uganda

00:22:56because

00:22:57He was the one who created

00:22:58the concept

00:22:59of what was called

00:23:00the walkers

00:23:01of the night

00:23:02suddenly

00:23:03the reign of terror

00:23:05by Kony

00:23:05it was such

00:23:05that the roads

00:23:07the streets of Uganda

00:23:08they were populated

00:23:09of children

00:23:10children who were walking

00:23:11at night

00:23:11that at night

00:23:12they abandoned their homes

00:23:13so that

00:23:14Kony's rebels

00:23:15They won't find them

00:23:16to become part

00:23:17of their armies

00:23:18both children

00:23:19like little girls

00:23:19the children

00:23:20were used

00:23:21as soldiers

00:23:22and the girls

00:23:22as concubines

00:23:23of the officers

00:23:24that is to say

00:23:24and religious denominations

00:23:28of the Catholic Church

00:23:30the Anglican Church

00:23:31Muslims

00:23:33etc.

00:23:33that have representation

00:23:35in Uganda

00:23:35They formed a united front

00:23:36something absolutely unprecedented

00:23:38in history

00:23:40to protect

00:23:40those children

00:23:42and some priests

00:23:44and some

00:23:47representatives

00:23:48of other religions

00:23:49they saw their lives

00:23:50for defending these children

00:23:52and the truth

00:23:53that conflict

00:23:54and that character

00:23:56if it hadn't been

00:23:56by the famous

00:23:57bluish grey stone

00:23:59because it wouldn't have lasted either.

00:24:00so long

00:24:01how long it lasted

00:24:01In other words, not only

00:24:02the children of the mines

00:24:03that right now

00:24:04even at these hours

00:24:05they will be playing

00:24:06his skin

00:24:07through those tunnels

00:24:08in search

00:24:08of this miraculous material

00:24:10as Alberto Vázquez says

00:24:11Sideroa

00:24:11but it has generated

00:24:12other characters

00:24:13very much like a real-life novel

00:24:14these night walkers

00:24:15Hey Alberto

00:24:16Do we know how much is being paid?

00:24:17coltan right now?

00:24:18a kilogram of coltan

00:24:20because I imagine

00:24:20that there will be very little substance

00:24:21For example

00:24:22on a mobile phone

00:24:22or in a...

00:24:23very little

00:24:24No?

00:24:24keep in mind

00:24:25than a copper wire

00:24:27normal thickness

00:24:28of what you have

00:24:29on a cable

00:24:30coltan thread

00:24:31is a hundred times

00:24:32one hundred times

00:24:33finer

00:24:34and right now

00:24:35when mobile phones

00:24:36They tell you that the

00:24:36you leave it there

00:24:37Why are they going to pick them up?

00:24:39so that it doesn't pollute

00:24:40They take it from you immediately.

00:24:41and they take him to Canada

00:24:42and where in Canada

00:24:43They extract the coltan from it.

00:24:45and then they send it

00:24:46to India

00:24:46so that in India

00:24:47take the rest

00:24:48India or Pakistan

00:24:49or Bangladesh

00:24:50take it out

00:24:50But the important thing

00:24:51It's about recovering coltan.

00:24:53but they recover very little

00:24:54recover approximately

00:24:57They recycle 20%

00:24:5825%

00:24:59The problem is that

00:25:01That's coming to an end.

00:25:02That's the question

00:25:03What could happen?

00:25:05well

00:25:06if it happens

00:25:07we will meet

00:25:08that we have built

00:25:09a world

00:25:11breaking the bridges

00:25:12with the past

00:25:13as you will see

00:25:14There are a lot of people

00:25:15that he no longer wants to have

00:25:16mobile phone

00:25:17at home

00:25:17landline phone

00:25:18at home

00:25:18Nobody manufactures anymore

00:25:20televisions

00:25:22big

00:25:23nor computers

00:25:24large personal

00:25:25You can't imagine

00:25:26to a gentleman

00:25:27going with a computer

00:25:28staff

00:25:28that he had a big head

00:25:30behind

00:25:32the radios

00:25:33all

00:25:34so

00:25:35What's going to happen?

00:25:36if that starts

00:25:37to disappear

00:25:38or if that happens

00:25:39to be controlled

00:25:40by three or four hands

00:25:42we will be

00:25:42completely

00:25:43lost

00:25:44it will not be able to take off

00:25:46an airplane

00:25:46in the world

00:25:47if it's not

00:25:48directed by coltan

00:25:50It will not work

00:25:51an artificial satellite

00:25:54Thank God

00:25:55neither.

00:25:57of these weapons

00:25:58remote-controlled

00:25:59even the internet

00:26:00the other day

00:26:02Saturday

00:26:03I had a conference

00:26:05talking about the internet

00:26:06where there was a series

00:26:07of journalists

00:26:08who wondered

00:26:09all

00:26:10if it was possible

00:26:11that the paper

00:26:12the paper newspaper

00:26:13disappeared

00:26:14that this would all go to hell

00:26:15that it all went to hell

00:26:16and others said

00:26:17and that the books

00:26:17went to the dogs

00:26:18and that internet

00:26:19out to eat

00:26:20all that

00:26:20And I told them

00:26:22one moment

00:26:22the problem

00:26:24nearest

00:26:25It's not that the newspaper

00:26:27paper

00:26:27disappear

00:26:28but disappear

00:26:29what we know

00:26:31now

00:26:31Internet

00:26:32because?

00:26:34because

00:26:35in order

00:26:36of the minerals

00:26:37that can replace

00:26:38some day

00:26:40to the

00:26:42tantalum

00:26:43the only

00:26:44the only

00:26:45that could

00:26:46make it slightly

00:26:48the competition

00:26:49It is the palatium

00:26:50which is what we know

00:26:52for white gold

00:26:53but the palatium

00:26:55it is still

00:26:55scarcer

00:26:57the Palatium mines

00:26:59They are also in Africa

00:27:00and in Russia

00:27:02is scarcer

00:27:03It's more expensive

00:27:04and it is less

00:27:07fantastic

00:27:08so to speak

00:27:09What will happen?

00:27:12We'll have to investigate.

00:27:14very deeply

00:27:15to find

00:27:17a substitute

00:27:18But what's happening?

00:27:20metals

00:27:21They are who they are.

00:27:24There's nothing more to it than that.

00:27:26And this is not found

00:27:27in mines

00:27:28It's not a

00:27:29we're going to find

00:27:29a mine

00:27:30we found here

00:27:31a goldmine

00:27:32No

00:27:32is found

00:27:33on these lands

00:27:34and of course

00:27:35nowadays

00:27:36all lands

00:27:37of the world

00:27:37They are photographed

00:27:39by satellites

00:27:39artificial

00:27:40until the very last

00:27:41pebble

00:27:42that is to say

00:27:42Me in the pool

00:27:44from my house

00:27:44I'm putting a package

00:27:45of cigarettes

00:27:46and a gentleman

00:27:47He knows from the air

00:27:48if that cigarette

00:27:49They are from a brand

00:27:50or another

00:27:51that is to say

00:27:52that they have

00:27:54seen

00:27:54all lands

00:27:56alluvial

00:27:57or of

00:27:58as it seems to be

00:28:00exit

00:28:01of volcanoes

00:28:02of the world

00:28:03and it is not found

00:28:04What's going to happen?

00:28:07at a moment

00:28:07in which we are living

00:28:08the crisis

00:28:09that we are living

00:28:12Everything is possible

00:28:13the world is so badly run

00:28:16politically

00:28:17and economically

00:28:18Don't be surprised

00:28:20that in the same way

00:28:21that the entire building

00:28:23that we had built

00:28:24It's falling apart

00:28:26a whole future

00:28:28that we have built

00:28:29without thinking

00:28:31which we were breaking

00:28:33our bond

00:28:35with the past

00:28:36collapse

00:28:37that day

00:28:38It will be the big surprise

00:28:40but

00:28:41What a great surprise!

00:28:42we have now

00:28:44that a bank

00:28:46multimillionaire

00:28:47suddenly

00:28:48bankruptcy

00:28:49and all

00:28:51the resources

00:28:52that people

00:28:53I had it there

00:28:53they left

00:28:54and that you don't know

00:28:55to invest

00:28:56that says

00:28:56what I do?

00:28:57Where do I put the money?

00:28:59well, in a sock

00:29:00or on a brick

00:29:00below the

00:29:01The world has fallen apart

00:29:03It shouldn't surprise them.

00:29:06yes

00:29:06that child

00:29:07that is hitting

00:29:08there comes a time

00:29:10in which not

00:29:10finds no more

00:29:13the world

00:29:14that we know

00:29:15ultramodern

00:29:16collapse

00:29:16How is the 21st century?

00:29:18It depends on that child

00:29:20kicking him

00:29:22or giving it

00:29:23hammer blows

00:29:24to a stone?

00:29:25Are we crazy?

00:29:28Or are we not crazy?

00:29:39that there is no doubt

00:29:40dear friends

00:29:41of fourth millennium

00:29:41I knew

00:29:42that this was going to have

00:29:43a tremendous impact

00:29:44that it will have

00:29:44a tremendous impact

00:29:46that will arrive

00:29:46opinions of all kinds

00:29:49which evidently

00:29:49the

00:29:51no prophecy

00:29:51a little apocalyptic

00:29:52what it says

00:29:53Alberto Vázquez

00:29:53Figueroa

00:29:54but of course

00:29:54terrifying

00:29:55And this is terrifying

00:29:55and it's very physical

00:29:56And it's happening

00:29:57and we have to get

00:29:58a reflection

00:29:59of everything we have

00:29:59spoken here

00:30:00Two things are clear

00:30:01Right, Santi?

00:30:01a

00:30:02that the issue is worrying

00:30:03that the topic

00:30:04They've hidden it from us

00:30:04for a long time

00:30:05and that suddenly

00:30:06shines thanks to a journalist

00:30:07especially here in Spain

00:30:08and the second

00:30:09which is clear

00:30:10It is mastery

00:30:12Alberto's indisputable

00:30:12to tell stories

00:30:14to tell stories

00:30:15I'm sure

00:30:16that will make people think

00:30:16If you want more information

00:30:19Coltan

00:30:19a novel

00:30:20but based

00:30:21unfortunately

00:30:22Alberto

00:30:23in real events

00:30:24a real pleasure

00:30:25to have had here

00:30:26although I believe that people

00:30:27She was very overwhelmed

00:30:28because this

00:30:29This is truly scary.

00:30:30But perhaps we'll find a solution.

00:30:32Who knows?

00:30:32Well

00:30:33the solutions

00:30:34They don't depend on me

00:30:36I am a person

00:30:37which exposes

00:30:39I only found

00:30:40a solution

00:30:41for something

00:30:41the water

00:30:43desalination

00:30:44and I found the solution

00:30:45find the solution

00:30:46so that everyone

00:30:47have the water

00:30:48who wants

00:30:49at a very cheap price

00:30:51But it has been difficult.

00:30:52so many disappointments

00:30:53so many problems

00:30:54and so much money

00:30:55in this life

00:30:56that now

00:30:58my obligation

00:30:59it's about putting the problems

00:31:01and say

00:31:02This is the problem

00:31:03You find the solution

00:31:05always

00:31:06The bad thing about all this

00:31:08the thing is

00:31:08the governments

00:31:10They never solve

00:31:11those problems

00:31:11the governments

00:31:13they usually are

00:31:13the problem

00:31:15Alberto

00:31:16one day we'll invite you

00:31:17really

00:31:17Tell us about it

00:31:19mysteries

00:31:19enigmas

00:31:20and problems

00:31:20of that world

00:31:21that you know

00:31:22What is water?

00:31:22and that is so vital

00:31:23like coltan

00:31:24thank you so much

00:31:25really

00:31:25thanks a lot

00:31:26for being here

00:31:27Santi

00:31:28that we stayed

00:31:28a bit

00:31:30overwhelmed

00:31:30we knew that here

00:31:31There was a beta

00:31:32Never a truer word spoken

00:31:32But damn!

00:31:33It's a beta version.

00:31:34that leaves us afraid

00:31:36really

00:31:36We depend on all of this

00:31:37well yes

00:31:38We depend on all of this

00:31:39And the truth is that

00:31:40apart from that

00:31:41we have attended

00:31:42to a real lesson

00:31:43from a teacher

00:31:44Thanks Santi

00:31:45as usual

00:31:45And now, other images

00:31:46amazing images

00:31:48images that also

00:31:48They're going to be shocked

00:31:49sure

00:31:49images from Cuarto Milenio

00:32:03Now you'll see.

00:32:04What a story

00:32:04more interesting

00:32:07the one that brings us

00:32:08along with his photograph

00:32:09Tomás Martínez

00:32:11He was with a friend of his

00:32:121980s

00:32:12Badajoz

00:32:13doing the assembly

00:32:14good

00:32:15of some letters

00:32:16from a sign

00:32:17from a bank

00:32:17Vizcaya bank

00:32:18then

00:32:19And suddenly something appears

00:32:21and recently

00:32:22looking at that photo

00:32:23have realized

00:32:24that what they

00:32:25they believed it was

00:32:26a simple coupon book

00:32:28or a person

00:32:29that there

00:32:30peacefully on the street

00:32:30selling

00:32:31no no

00:32:31He has no face.

00:32:32Carmen

00:32:34the truth is that

00:32:35It's a photo

00:32:35the most unusual

00:32:37because, as he told us

00:32:38Guillermo León

00:32:38What's he doing there?

00:32:40that character

00:32:40which we have not been able to

00:32:42identify in no way

00:32:43as Iker rightly said

00:32:44It has no face.

00:32:45look

00:32:46which character

00:32:46I mean

00:32:48They'll see it perfectly.

00:32:49It is lit

00:32:50Let's enlarge the image

00:32:52so that they can see it

00:32:54because at first

00:32:55Well, maybe.

00:32:56a passerby

00:32:57TRUE

00:32:57someone who was passing by

00:32:59that seems to be carrying something

00:33:01on the chest

00:33:02we don't know

00:33:03very well what

00:33:04because

00:33:04It's like an object

00:33:05There we have it.

00:33:07He looks more like a ninja.

00:33:09Don't you see?

00:33:10like a species

00:33:11handkerchief

00:33:13that is above the head

00:33:14and something too

00:33:15that has the hands

00:33:16or carries a kind

00:33:17helmet

00:33:17We don't know

00:33:18The legs are visible here

00:33:20and the shoes

00:33:21or what appear to be

00:33:22shoes

00:33:23What's that doing there?

00:33:24in the 1980s

00:33:25in Badajoz

00:33:26next to the door

00:33:27from a bank

00:33:28The truth is, nothing.

00:33:29This man said

00:33:29who was the endearing

00:33:30typical figure

00:33:32emblematic

00:33:32of our streets

00:33:33of the people

00:33:34who sells the coupon

00:33:35and that are part

00:33:37But of course

00:33:38is this

00:33:39if one keeps increasing it

00:33:40little by little

00:33:40realizes

00:33:41which has little to do with

00:33:42if also

00:33:43the people who sell

00:33:44the coupon

00:33:44normally

00:33:47has a face

00:33:48in this case

00:33:49as you can see

00:33:50there is no face

00:33:51that we can identify

00:33:53besides

00:33:53clothing

00:33:54It's very rare

00:33:56even for the 1980s

00:33:57and sparkles

00:33:59Yeah

00:33:59Let's see it

00:34:00Here it is

00:34:01Look at the face

00:34:03like with glasses

00:34:05enormous

00:34:05as if they were

00:34:06diving

00:34:07It seems to be true.

00:34:08There we have it.

00:34:09and?

00:34:10They would be carnivals

00:34:11in Badajoz

00:34:13we are going to apply

00:34:14various filters

00:34:15where you can see

00:34:16perfectly

00:34:18even

00:34:19changes

00:34:20completely

00:34:21the image

00:34:21if we invest

00:34:22the colors

00:34:23and we put the photograph

00:34:24in negative

00:34:25we realize

00:34:25even

00:34:26that has something

00:34:27that holds

00:34:28on the chest

00:34:29Here we see it

00:34:29perfectly

00:34:30Iker

00:34:31Well

00:34:32It was a photo

00:34:32on paper

00:34:33It would be good to see the negative.

00:34:34that is

00:34:35We ask for your help.

00:34:36again

00:34:36if he's watching us

00:34:37this viewer

00:34:38please

00:34:39send us

00:34:39the negative

00:34:40of this photograph

00:34:41in order to rule it out

00:34:42100% any tampering

00:34:44And we continue with impactful images.

00:34:46Carlos Alejo

00:34:47says that a friend of hers

00:34:49This image was obtained

00:34:50This one

00:34:50in digital format

00:34:51in Grandas de Salime

00:34:53in Asturias

00:34:54If there's one thing to say

00:34:56this friend

00:34:57she sent it to us

00:34:58saying that an acquaintance of hers

00:34:59had obtained the photograph

00:35:00but we have also found

00:35:02this image

00:35:03on a portal

00:35:04internet

00:35:05It's hanging there

00:35:06therefore

00:35:06That already makes us

00:35:07doubt a little

00:35:08of the true origin

00:35:10of this photograph

00:35:11It is a village

00:35:12a bit ghostly

00:35:13No?

00:35:13Yeah

00:35:13We'll see perfectly

00:35:15Now I'm going to enlarge the image

00:35:16There are several photographs

00:35:18We're looking at it

00:35:18TRUE?

00:35:19of a door

00:35:20some strange reflections

00:35:22but

00:35:22Here's the thing

00:35:24an image

00:35:26one face

00:35:26We see it, right?

00:35:27are the eyes

00:35:28I'm going to expand it even more

00:35:29Iker

00:35:30so that our viewers

00:35:32see her perfectly

00:35:33Here it is

00:35:36look at her

00:35:38the eyes

00:35:39the nose

00:35:40and the mouth

00:35:42Could there have been any photo retouching?

00:35:45Well

00:35:46What Guillermo tells us

00:35:47again

00:35:48we would need

00:35:49have more data

00:35:50from this image

00:35:51and even

00:35:52the person who truly

00:35:53has taken the photographs

00:35:54that he get in touch

00:35:56with us

00:35:57to rule out 100%

00:35:59any computer manipulation

00:36:02look

00:36:02We have applied several filters to it.

00:36:04And it looks even better here.

00:36:05Yes, perfectly.

00:36:06with volume

00:36:06Of course, that's what needs to be done

00:36:08and we encounter this a lot

00:36:09unfortunately

00:36:10It's just that people say

00:36:11a friend got it

00:36:12It's like an urban legend.

00:36:13and then it turns out it's on the internet

00:36:14therefore

00:36:16I would be suspicious

00:36:18we are quite suspicious

00:36:19from this image

00:36:19although that's true

00:36:20It's impressive.

00:36:22photographically

00:36:22What Guillermo tells us

00:36:23It could have been

00:36:25some reflection

00:36:26which does not rule it out

00:36:28but we would need

00:36:28have more data

00:36:29because now

00:36:31above all

00:36:32digital photographs

00:36:33They are very easily manipulated

00:36:35well then

00:36:35I hope we can find out

00:36:37Who does this face belong to?

00:36:38and of discoveries

00:36:39We'll talk now

00:36:40because the news

00:36:41they come loaded

00:36:42Fourth Millennium news

00:36:53we have seen alleged

00:36:54apparitions of the Virgin

00:36:55in unusual places

00:36:57in a subway passageway

00:36:59in a loaf of bread

00:37:01A thousand things have been published

00:37:03This makes some sense.

00:37:04whatever it is

00:37:05because it's the window

00:37:06from a place of suffering

00:37:08and sometimes prayer

00:37:09a hospital, Carmen

00:37:10a hospital in Springfield

00:37:11a hospital also

00:37:12Catholic

00:37:13is called

00:37:14the medical center

00:37:15of mercy

00:37:16Well

00:37:16a maintenance manager

00:37:18I was passing by in front

00:37:19of the building

00:37:20and he realized

00:37:21that there was a curious image

00:37:22on the second floor

00:37:24of this building

00:37:26one of the windows

00:37:27from that second floor

00:37:28shows how we see

00:37:29an image

00:37:29that according to Catholics

00:37:31according to believers

00:37:32it's identical

00:37:33to the Virgin Mary

00:37:34Well

00:37:35such a thing has happened

00:37:36crowd of people

00:37:38just below

00:37:39They have already begun

00:37:39to light candles

00:37:40people praying

00:37:41taking photographs

00:37:42with their mobile phones

00:37:43Because it really is

00:37:44They believe it's an apparition

00:37:46divine

00:37:46They also think

00:37:47that people

00:37:48what's in that room

00:37:49someone sick

00:37:50It can be saved

00:37:51of diseases

00:37:53very serious

00:37:54everything clear

00:37:54within the beliefs

00:37:55because

00:37:56to know for sure

00:37:57what will be done

00:37:58to examine this glass

00:37:59find out

00:38:00besides

00:38:01two people

00:38:02an engineer

00:38:03who is an expert in structures

00:38:05and properties of glass

00:38:06and the other

00:38:06a professional restorer

00:38:08They are going to be done

00:38:09with this image

00:38:10to see

00:38:11how could it have arisen

00:38:12the church

00:38:13It's in the glass

00:38:15what they don't know

00:38:17This is how it was able to form

00:38:18and why

00:38:19only in that glass

00:38:21not in other crystals

00:38:22from the same plant

00:38:23or of higher plants

00:38:24or lower

00:38:25besides

00:38:25what is unknown

00:38:27That is, if it was previously

00:38:28that he realized

00:38:29this maintenance man

00:38:30or if on the contrary

00:38:31has suddenly emerged

00:38:32one day

00:38:33and nothing more

00:38:34the church

00:38:34for now

00:38:35We already know what it is.

00:38:36very cautious

00:38:37with these alleged

00:38:38miracles

00:38:39and for the moment

00:38:40They said that an investigation will be necessary.

00:38:41But they say nothing.

00:38:43man, it's clear

00:38:43which will have some explanation

00:38:45But there's something

00:38:46which is also mysterious

00:38:47And nobody can take that away.

00:38:48which is what I called

00:38:50Manuel Martín Serrano

00:38:51the sociology of the miracle

00:38:52which is already underway

00:38:54and that it is unstoppable

00:38:55We'll see what happens.

00:38:56amazing

00:38:57by the way

00:38:57talking about images

00:38:58You will recall that a few weeks ago

00:38:59we were talking about

00:39:00of Chemtrails

00:39:01of Chemtrails

00:39:02supposedly

00:39:03my mother

00:39:04the mess that's been created

00:39:05as a result

00:39:06that here on Cuarto Milenio

00:39:07Let's take these pictures.

00:39:08good

00:39:09if they have more footage

00:39:10who they think they are

00:39:11of these strange trails

00:39:12which are the latest great conspiracy

00:39:14in Spain and around the world

00:39:15foreign substances

00:39:16that are not from airplanes

00:39:18they say

00:39:19I don't know

00:39:20sending them

00:39:21There are two ways to contact us

00:39:22because it seems to be

00:39:23that there has been

00:39:23a tremendous commotion

00:39:25We do nothing but receive information

00:39:26about this phenomenon

00:39:28that we don't know what it is

00:39:29We'll leave it at that.

00:39:30But we continue of course

00:39:31willing to shed light

00:39:33about this

00:39:33It is our motivation

00:39:34how to try to shed light

00:39:36over some remains

00:39:37very famous

00:39:38Pizarro's men

00:39:40no more, no less

00:39:40Francisco Pizarro

00:39:42historical evidence

00:39:43and bioarchaeological

00:39:44That's what it's called

00:39:45the study

00:39:46that is being carried out

00:39:47in the Cathedral of Lima

00:39:49in Peru

00:39:49this study

00:39:50its purpose

00:39:51demonstrate

00:39:52that the discovered skeleton

00:39:53by chance

00:39:54in a crypt

00:39:54of the Cathedral

00:39:55in 1977

00:39:56is indeed

00:39:58that of the Extremaduran conqueror

00:40:00Let us remember that Pizarro

00:40:02He was murdered

00:40:02June 26

00:40:03of 1541

00:40:04at the hands of the supporters

00:40:06of his enemy

00:40:07Diego de Almagro

00:40:08His body was buried

00:40:10almost clandestinely

00:40:11in a courtyard

00:40:12of the Cathedral

00:40:13But someone must have

00:40:14get him out of there

00:40:14Well, already in 1661

00:40:16a cathedral charter

00:40:18mentions

00:40:18that in a lead box

00:40:20a skull is kept

00:40:21with this legend

00:40:22here lies

00:40:23the head

00:40:24of the Marquis

00:40:25Don Francisco Pizarro

00:40:27that discovered

00:40:27and won

00:40:28the kingdoms of Peru

00:40:29and put them

00:40:30in the Royal Crown

00:40:30of Castile

00:40:31but the trail

00:40:32of the founder of Lima

00:40:33lost

00:40:34for three centuries

00:40:35until 1977

00:40:37some work

00:40:38remodeling

00:40:39in a crypt

00:40:40they brought to light

00:40:41the famous lead box

00:40:42now those remains

00:40:44have been subjected

00:40:44to new analyses

00:40:45and have concluded

00:40:46that with 80%

00:40:48of possibilities

00:40:49It is the skeleton

00:40:51of the great Extremaduran

00:40:52Well

00:40:52Pizarro

00:40:53and Orellana

00:40:55the one-eyed man of the Amazon

00:40:57both from Trujillo

00:40:58and in Trujillo

00:40:59precisely

00:40:59one of the squares

00:41:00most beautiful in Spain

00:41:01There is a sculpture

00:41:02that still impresses

00:41:03if you don't see it

00:41:04But we're still in Peru.

00:41:06because there has been

00:41:06findings

00:41:07truly extraordinary

00:41:09findings that have occurred

00:41:10thank you

00:41:11to some photographs

00:41:13satellite images

00:41:15They were Italian scientists

00:41:17those who have discovered

00:41:17a submerged pyramid

00:41:19as Iker said

00:41:20in Peru

00:41:21the discovery

00:41:21has occurred

00:41:22near the archaeological zone

00:41:23from Caguachi

00:41:24considered the city

00:41:25made of adobe

00:41:26world's largest

00:41:27Nicola Massini

00:41:28and Rosa La Saporana

00:41:30of the National Council

00:41:31research

00:41:32from Italy

00:41:32They managed to optimize

00:41:34the quality of the images

00:41:35taken by the satellite

00:41:36Quick Bird

00:41:37until you obtain

00:41:38a detailed overview

00:41:39from the base

00:41:40of 9,000 square meters

00:41:42of the pyramid

00:41:43according to experts

00:41:44There are many buildings

00:41:46buried underground

00:41:47from Caguachi

00:41:47but so far

00:41:48It was almost impossible

00:41:49locate them

00:41:50and detect its shape

00:41:52from an aerial view

00:41:53the main problem

00:41:54It was the lack of contrast

00:41:56between the adobe

00:41:57and the subsoil

00:41:58the pyramid consists

00:41:59of at least

00:42:00four terraces

00:42:00with descending levels

00:42:02this archaeological zone

00:42:03in Peru

00:42:04was the cradle

00:42:04of the Nazca civilization

00:42:06that flourished

00:42:07precisely in this country

00:42:08between the centuries

00:42:09first before Christ

00:42:10and fifth after Christ

00:42:13impressive find

00:42:14in what they call

00:42:15no more, no less

00:42:16the Pre-Columbian Vatican

00:42:18the city of the seers

00:42:19Caguachi

00:42:20awesome

00:42:21really

00:42:21as impressive

00:42:22These are the footprints

00:42:24very remote

00:42:25so remote

00:42:26which are the oldest

00:42:28of the world

00:42:28Or at least that's what I think.

00:42:29That's what they claim

00:42:30American scientists

00:42:32that have found them

00:42:34They are fossilized footprints

00:42:35that a small aquatic animal

00:42:37left on a layer

00:42:38of sediments

00:42:39in Nevada

00:42:39about 570 million years ago

00:42:43This would demonstrate

00:42:44that provided animals

00:42:45of legs

00:42:46They walked on our planet

00:42:47at least

00:42:4830 million years

00:42:50earlier than expected

00:42:51the scientists thought

00:42:53that the organisms

00:42:54who lived on the earth

00:42:55during the Precambrian period

00:42:56They were primarily microbes

00:42:58and simple multicellular animals

00:43:00and now

00:43:01news of special significance

00:43:03with an image

00:43:04amazing image

00:43:06also archaeology

00:43:07and also mystery

00:43:09Watch it

00:43:09Look at it very carefully

00:43:11Well, if I tell them

00:43:13showing this image

00:43:14extremely powerful

00:43:15that has been captured

00:43:16a kind of extraterrestrial

00:43:17somewhere desolate

00:43:19that is being discussed

00:43:20unknown biological entity

00:43:22you surely

00:43:23and more on the internet

00:43:24For example

00:43:25would believe it

00:43:26would spread

00:43:27because it really is

00:43:28the appearance is striking

00:43:30but not at all

00:43:31we have to go

00:43:32to one of the pieces

00:43:33or one of the findings

00:43:33archaeological

00:43:34most important

00:43:35of all time

00:43:36And there it was

00:43:37although those of us who are not

00:43:38scholars

00:43:39we didn't know

00:43:40we talk about

00:43:42Tutankhamun

00:43:42no more

00:43:43nor less

00:43:43by the way

00:43:44one of the best works

00:43:46about the last son of the sun

00:43:48Our dear friend did it.

00:43:50editor of the magazine

00:43:51of archaeology

00:43:51Nacho Ares

00:43:52Nacho

00:43:52good night

00:43:53how are you

00:43:53good night

00:43:54Thank you for bringing us

00:43:55all this material

00:43:55which is impressive

00:43:56Let's start with what we know

00:43:57the news

00:43:58And now, with your observations

00:43:59the news has been

00:44:00that had been discovered

00:44:02two fetuses

00:44:02apparently feminine

00:44:04about 5 to 7 months

00:44:06of gestation

00:44:07fairly

00:44:08in the tomb

00:44:09of Tutankhamun

00:44:10That's what they were saying.

00:44:11the news

00:44:12besides

00:44:12that also the samples

00:44:13DNA

00:44:14will be carried out

00:44:15to see if it really

00:44:16They were daughters

00:44:17of Tutankhamun

00:44:18or had some kind of relationship

00:44:19familiar

00:44:20Because that's what we don't know.

00:44:21until now

00:44:22and there was none either

00:44:24no news

00:44:25nor archaeological

00:44:26nor of any other kind

00:44:27that Tutankhamun

00:44:28would have had offspring

00:44:29Well, this is the news.

00:44:30that has been published

00:44:31which as happens

00:44:32now worldwide

00:44:33which has its good points

00:44:34and bad things

00:44:34It is repeated without further ado.

00:44:36in hundreds of thousands

00:44:37from sources

00:44:38now

00:44:39What is the truth?

00:44:41It has a dual aspect

00:44:42this aspect

00:44:43This news

00:44:44first of all

00:44:45as you have pointed out

00:44:47DNA extraction

00:44:48to know

00:44:49Yes, indeed.

00:44:49They are descendants

00:44:50of Tutankhamun

00:44:52there is no record

00:44:54through the documents

00:44:55historical

00:44:55that they would have children

00:44:57Yes, there are some.

00:44:58representations

00:44:59on the covers

00:45:00For example

00:45:01I'm remembering now

00:45:02the lid

00:45:02from a chest

00:45:03ivory

00:45:04where it appears

00:45:05Tutankhamun

00:45:05and Anges Enamun

00:45:06his wife

00:45:07and down

00:45:07Two children appear

00:45:09that they said

00:45:09some interpretations

00:45:10who were the children

00:45:11however

00:45:12There is another two-sided aspect

00:45:14of this news

00:45:15that's when

00:45:15shortly after announcing

00:45:17the Egyptians

00:45:17DNA studies

00:45:19that are being carried out

00:45:20well in Manchester

00:45:21a teacher

00:45:22Robert Connolly

00:45:22He gives a lecture

00:45:24at a congress

00:45:25of Egyptology

00:45:27adding another piece of information

00:45:28more revealing

00:45:29ancient

00:45:30Because it needs to be said.

00:45:31It's not new.

00:45:31But it is revealing.

00:45:33following the news

00:45:34that it was said

00:45:34who were two

00:45:35Well

00:45:35who could be two girls

00:45:37twins

00:45:38twins

00:45:38that were deposited

00:45:40in separate coffins

00:45:42in the treasury chamber

00:45:43in the tomb

00:45:43of Tutankhamun

00:45:44and that would enter

00:45:45somehow

00:45:46oh good

00:45:47Well, to specify

00:45:49one of those

00:45:50fields of research

00:45:51lesser-known

00:45:52in ancient Egypt

00:45:53which is all that

00:45:54related to children

00:45:55and above all

00:45:56what importance

00:45:57the fetuses had

00:45:58deposited

00:45:59in some tombs

00:46:00of them

00:46:00which is not the only place

00:46:01where they have been discovered

00:46:02what it also says

00:46:03the news

00:46:04It is that the Council

00:46:05of Investigations

00:46:06of Egypt

00:46:06has said that the mummies

00:46:08could have been

00:46:09placed on his tomb

00:46:10to allow

00:46:11to live like a newborn

00:46:13in the underworld

00:46:14But this is normal.

00:46:16this thing about fetuses

00:46:17Nacho's offering

00:46:17Yeah

00:46:18have been found

00:46:19in other places

00:46:19not perhaps inside

00:46:21in the tomb

00:46:22but yes abroad

00:46:22For example

00:46:23in the tomb

00:46:24by Love Kopechev

00:46:25in the Valley of the Queens

00:46:26the visitors

00:46:27can find

00:46:28right in the burial chamber

00:46:29the mummy

00:46:30of a small fetus

00:46:31It's in a glass case

00:46:33did not appear in this tomb

00:46:34Yes, it appeared

00:46:35in the surrounding area

00:46:36but it is known

00:46:37as I say

00:46:38through archaeological excavations

00:46:39of other fetuses

00:46:40that were deposited

00:46:42we don't know why

00:46:42because there are no texts either

00:46:43that explain the reason

00:46:45in the vicinity of the tombs

00:46:47the safest

00:46:48maybe

00:46:49because of that idea

00:46:50Carmen was just talking about

00:46:51of trying

00:46:53Well

00:46:54serve

00:46:55as an amulet

00:46:56a kind of amulet

00:46:57of talisman

00:46:58that would help the deceased

00:47:00to

00:47:00Well then, let's win!

00:47:01that step

00:47:02that affects us all

00:47:03inevitably cross

00:47:05at the end of our days

00:47:06and obtain transit

00:47:08as sweetened as possible

00:47:10to the afterlife

00:47:10It's a fascinating topic.

00:47:12because it seems that it is known

00:47:13everything about Tutankhamun

00:47:14or almost all

00:47:15although there are many mysteries

00:47:16with his death

00:47:16how

00:47:17and there is no data

00:47:19concrete

00:47:20whether he had

00:47:21these

00:47:21or these twins

00:47:23however

00:47:23They are in their tomb

00:47:24truly amazing

00:47:26Absolutely amazing

00:47:27and one other thing

00:47:28They were sacrifices

00:47:29They were natural deaths

00:47:30They were newborns

00:47:31let's see

00:47:32the CT scan

00:47:33the scanner

00:47:33It has not yet been published

00:47:35surely

00:47:36the next few weeks

00:47:37through a program

00:47:38television

00:47:38of a large chain

00:47:39will be announced

00:47:40which

00:47:41Yes, we know.

00:47:43It's that in this case

00:47:43the ancient Egyptians

00:47:44They split hairs.

00:47:45in the process

00:47:46mummification

00:47:47one of them

00:47:48the fetus

00:47:49older

00:47:50about 8 or 9 months

00:47:51Yes, he suffered.

00:47:53the incision

00:47:54that was done

00:47:54in the abdomen

00:47:55in the area

00:47:56to the left

00:47:57and it was filled

00:47:58all this part

00:47:59of the body

00:47:59with canvases

00:48:01the other

00:48:01the other fetus

00:48:02the smallest

00:48:03about 5 months

00:48:05suffered

00:48:06mummification

00:48:06natural

00:48:07and were deposited

00:48:08there

00:48:09as I said before

00:48:09Well, we don't know.

00:48:10still why

00:48:11The curious thing

00:48:12also

00:48:12There is another story behind it all.

00:48:13in these fetuses

00:48:14is that during

00:48:15since

00:48:16Douglas Derry

00:48:17the photographer

00:48:18by Howard Carter

00:48:19He took the photographs

00:48:20in 1932

00:48:21They were there for more than 50 years

00:48:22lost

00:48:23It is unknown

00:48:23where were they

00:48:24reappeared

00:48:25in the 1970s

00:48:26when Harrison

00:48:27He took some new x-rays

00:48:28an English teacher

00:48:29and they disappeared again

00:48:31and does

00:48:32well in the middle

00:48:33of the decade

00:48:34of the 90s

00:48:35Bob Breyer

00:48:36another American Egyptologist

00:48:37discovered them

00:48:38in a hospital

00:48:40from Cairo

00:48:40in Casareleini

00:48:41where I precisely

00:48:42about 8 or 9 years ago

00:48:44I could see

00:48:44the youngest of them

00:48:45I remember

00:48:46This image

00:48:47that we are seeing

00:48:47on the screen

00:48:48is the only one

00:48:49that they let me see

00:48:50and I remember

00:48:52I have it

00:48:52recorded

00:48:53the image

00:48:54what was it

00:48:54nothing like that

00:48:56to those photos

00:48:57ancient

00:48:57from the 1930s

00:48:58by Douglas Derry

00:49:01and yet

00:49:02well

00:49:02a set of splinters

00:49:05completely destroyed

00:49:06nothing at all like that

00:49:07to the old image

00:49:08We will continue talking

00:49:09sure

00:49:09of the treasures

00:49:10treasures of the boy pharaoh

00:49:11Thanks Nacho

00:49:13Because, as always, you're with you.

00:49:14We learn from archaeology

00:49:15and even more so with images

00:49:16so mysterious

00:49:18so amazing

00:49:19how are you

00:49:20this was inside

00:49:21from that royal tomb

00:49:23Thanks Nacho

00:49:24Thank you

00:49:25And now, if you like, Carmen

00:49:26Well, this could fit in.

00:49:27perfectly

00:49:28in an unusual world

00:49:29But it's archaeology

00:49:29pure and simple

00:49:30But now let's get to it.

00:49:31with that news

00:49:32truly amazing

00:49:33an unusual world

00:49:39And speaking of mummies

00:49:41Look at these

00:49:42Living Buddhas

00:49:43They are real mummies

00:49:45But because they wanted to

00:49:46They are priests

00:49:47that during

00:49:48out of a thousand

00:49:49three thousand days

00:49:50stop ingesting

00:49:51food

00:49:52and drinks

00:49:53just one species

00:49:53of roots

00:49:54walnuts

00:49:55and also a liquid

00:49:56which apparently

00:49:56was mummifying

00:49:58little by little

00:49:58your organs

00:49:59then they were put

00:50:00in a hole

00:50:01and there

00:50:02they were already perishing

00:50:03but during that time

00:50:04They had life

00:50:05and little by little

00:50:06her body

00:50:07it was getting wrinkled

00:50:08What was the point of everything?

00:50:09so that the farmers

00:50:10of the town

00:50:11where they lived

00:50:11they had no curse

00:50:13and the harvests

00:50:14and the animals

00:50:15live in peace

00:50:16and we're leaving

00:50:18to the zoo

00:50:19from Alice Springs

00:50:20look

00:50:21They are the cameras

00:50:22security

00:50:23They are recording

00:50:24like a child

00:50:24seven years old

00:50:25penetrates

00:50:26in what is

00:50:27the enclosure

00:50:27of the crocodile

00:50:28Furthermore, it seems

00:50:29who throws something

00:50:30Well, this little one

00:50:32seven years old

00:50:32had killed

00:50:33to several lizards

00:50:35and other reptiles

00:50:36which are worth about

00:50:37$5,500

00:50:38then to throw them

00:50:40to whom he said

00:50:40which was his favorite animal

00:50:41this great crocodile

00:50:43three meters

00:50:44they don't know how

00:50:45the detector

00:50:46which makes nobody

00:50:47can enter

00:50:48precisely in those venues

00:50:50because of the danger there is

00:50:51It didn't set off any alarms

00:50:52but in this case

00:50:53security cameras

00:50:54They've captured him

00:50:55the mother

00:50:56He didn't even notice

00:50:58and Robbie Williams

00:50:59It continues to give us

00:51:00news

00:51:01in this case

00:51:02has created

00:51:03an album

00:51:03with which he intends

00:51:05contact with beings

00:51:06extraterrestrials

00:51:07says that through

00:51:08of this music

00:51:08He's sure.

00:51:09that the etes

00:51:10They will contact

00:51:12with the

00:51:12and with other people

00:51:13of the earth

00:51:14also when he was

00:51:16in the mountains

00:51:17awaiting the visit

00:51:18of those beings

00:51:19from other worlds

00:51:19They started to occur to him

00:51:20the songs

00:51:21and when in the study

00:51:22I was recording

00:51:23Arizona

00:51:24says a bright light

00:51:26penetrated through that study

00:51:27recording

00:51:28and that precisely

00:51:29that song

00:51:30He was talking about abductions

00:51:31maybe

00:51:32They abduct him

00:51:33shortly

00:51:34and now

00:51:34directly

00:51:35to our hemorrhagia

00:51:36to discover

00:51:37a story

00:51:37that convulsed

00:51:38to the capital of Spain

00:51:54We set our clock back

00:51:55of history

00:51:56of the mystery

00:51:56and journalism

00:51:57up to the decade

00:51:58from the 1910s

00:51:59It was a decade

00:52:00very complicated

00:52:01where they were made public

00:52:03in many cases

00:52:04of fat remover

00:52:05of pursuers

00:52:07of blood

00:52:07that could revive

00:52:08certain diseases

00:52:09Heraldo de Madrid

00:52:11month of April

00:52:13in the heart of Guadarrama

00:52:14and a tragedy

00:52:15specifically

00:52:16in the pine forests

00:52:17from Balsain

00:52:18Carmen

00:52:18Yeah

00:52:19there Francisco González

00:52:21which I already had

00:52:21any criminal record

00:52:23It seemed that he had rebuilt

00:52:24his life

00:52:24had become

00:52:25in soldier

00:52:26but always

00:52:27the dirty tricks

00:52:28They were taking him

00:52:29to remove an object

00:52:30with that

00:52:31entered the house

00:52:32of some guards

00:52:33hoping to find

00:52:34something of value

00:52:35and the only thing he found

00:52:36It was a girl

00:52:37Her name was Teresita

00:52:38I was barely 5 months old

00:52:40and was

00:52:41in his crib

00:52:41He started to look

00:52:42through the room

00:52:43by the bedside tables

00:52:44to see what I could take

00:52:45But he realized

00:52:46that there was nothing

00:52:47he only took

00:52:48some medicinal herbs

00:52:49that they had

00:52:49and some blades

00:52:50shaving

00:52:51but then

00:52:52the girl began

00:52:53to cry

00:52:54And this was the terrible part

00:52:55because he tried

00:52:56silence her

00:52:57He grabbed a towel.

00:52:59and twisted it

00:53:00on her neck

00:53:01that's what he believed

00:53:02that she wasn't going to cry anymore

00:53:03and indeed

00:53:04She didn't cry anymore

00:53:05and from here

00:53:07the story of an escape

00:53:08the story of a sacrifice

00:53:09as the press said

00:53:11and above all

00:53:11something that was very fashionable

00:53:12which was the feeling

00:53:13that there were raptors

00:53:15of children

00:53:15It's more

00:53:16this individual

00:53:17He is caught

00:53:17when he hid

00:53:19through the pine forests

00:53:19with the girl

00:53:20in a sack

00:53:21so

00:53:22they are no longer just

00:53:23the famous cases

00:53:23of Gado

00:53:24in Almería

00:53:25but even before

00:53:26There was a man

00:53:27from the sack

00:53:27transporting their victim

00:53:28in the forests

00:53:29no more, no less

00:53:30that of the Sierra de Madrid

00:53:31But look

00:53:32What would Francis be like?

00:53:33and his criminal art

00:53:35that when he caught

00:53:36that girl

00:53:36He put her in his sack

00:53:37and launched

00:53:38to the pine forests

00:53:38to hide

00:53:39She left it there

00:53:40in a shelter

00:53:41under some trees

00:53:43and returned

00:53:44He returned because he already knew

00:53:46that the guards

00:53:46the police

00:53:47I was investigating

00:53:48the case

00:53:49the mother realized

00:53:50that the cradle

00:53:51that the room

00:53:51It was completely empty.

00:53:53where could she have gone

00:53:54that girl

00:53:54of only

00:53:55five months

00:53:56It was then

00:53:57when he told her

00:53:58don't worry

00:53:59that her daughter will appear

00:54:01He told her

00:54:01to her own mother

00:54:02and began to search

00:54:03with the police

00:54:04and they found her

00:54:05until it collapsed

00:54:06and declared

00:54:07but before that I had pointed

00:54:08a possibility

00:54:09a blood drinker

00:54:11It was called

00:54:11Vampire of Guadarrama

00:54:13no more, no less

00:54:13and after the arrest

00:54:14Their story is over.

00:54:15after the arrest

00:54:16Francisco González

00:54:18He was imprisoned

00:54:19and so the girl

00:54:20He was able to rest in peace.

00:54:21his parents

00:54:22They gave him

00:54:22grave

00:54:24And that was the end of it.

00:54:25but the fear

00:54:25continued

00:54:26in the Iker area

00:54:27because I didn't know

00:54:28if truly

00:54:29had been

00:54:29Francisco González

00:54:30the killer

00:54:31or some vampire

00:54:32or the boogeyman

00:54:33who took the children away

00:54:34So they're not characters

00:54:36legendary

00:54:36that terrified Spain

00:54:37at a certain time

00:54:38and that were

00:54:40present

00:54:40in the terrors

00:54:41and in the crimes

00:54:43Unfortunately

00:54:43This is what you are about to see

00:54:44They are not crimes

00:54:45They are deaths

00:54:46extraordinarily

00:54:48unusual

00:54:49a voracious fire

00:54:50Do you remember?

00:54:51of these images?

00:54:52Do you remember?

00:54:53from the CHE?

00:54:54human combustion

00:54:55spontaneous

00:54:58Do you remember the CHE?

00:55:30Thanks for watching the video.

00:55:57Thanks for watching the video.

00:56:04Thanks for watching the video.

00:56:12Thanks for watching the video.

00:56:24But I'm convinced they've never heard of ameigados fires.

00:56:31They devastated Galicia, a specific part of the deep and beloved Galicia.

00:56:36And it's strange because the panic, the panic is still there, even though the flames left a long time ago.

00:56:44Today, few want to talk about it and prefer to remember this nightmare.

00:56:48Remember that, ameigados fires.

00:56:56In mid-1976, the few remaining residents of some remote, isolated villages in Galicia,

00:57:04Their work routine in the fields was suddenly and inexplicably cut short.

00:57:09Rapidly and abruptly, a series of phenomena occurred that neither they nor the researchers were ever able to explain.

00:57:17Devouring fires sprang up out of nowhere, as if by magic.

00:57:22Initially, the mountains around the village, around those houses, began to burn.

00:57:30First the mountain burned.

00:57:33The neighbors used to go out to put out the fire in the woods, but suddenly one day it started burning closer to us.

00:57:39the houses.

00:57:40But it was no longer land, but fire near the houses.

00:57:46Then, a pile of firewood we had for the winter, piles of straw, and the fire started spontaneously.

00:57:57We didn't see anyone; the fire could start day or night, but there were no people around.

00:58:04where the fire was lit.

00:58:06The fire appeared, they said, as if from inside the firewood or from inside the flammable material.

00:58:12It started with a bluish flame and began to spread through the flammable material.

00:58:19This kind of paranoia, this constant fear, even led people to be on high alert for the possibility of

00:58:27that the fire could affect the houses.

00:58:37Before the astonished eyes of the villagers, the flames ignited as if an invisible hand were responsible for them.

00:58:44misfortunes.

00:58:46They soon became an unwanted daily sight.

00:58:50We took a pile of straw from in front of the house where I was born, and we separated it from the house, because

00:58:56It was very close to the house and we were afraid it would start a fire and spread to the house.

00:59:00and we moved him about 100 meters away from where he was, and when we finished removing the ropes from dragging him,

00:59:08The fire in him started automatically.

00:59:10So yes, but right in front of us, and there wasn't anyone nearby.

00:59:15Thirty-two years after those intriguing events, a team from Cuarto Milenio traveled to the villages of Trazo to

00:59:23locate the former witnesses.

00:59:25Some were no longer among the living to tell their story, but others remembered very well.

00:59:33good of those flaming aberrations.

00:59:36The wood burned completely.

00:59:38Nothing was left. And that's not even considering the village itself. Even so, it was a lot.

00:59:44What burned. Besides the fright we had, we didn't sleep in the houses.

00:59:50And didn't people sleep in their homes?

00:59:53Out of fear, the fire would start and... what would you do? How would you get out?

00:59:59The accidents often occurred during the day and never at night.

01:00:04One of those affected, Francisco Otero, recalls how his granary burned down without any apparent human intervention.

01:00:13It would be around eleven thirty or twelve o'clock.

01:00:19I felt something like...

01:00:22Shhh...

01:00:22Like a firecracker before it explodes.

01:00:26In an instant, the truth is that I saw the flame burning, provided there was gorse.

01:00:35That true hell lasted almost a month.

01:00:38Especially in the village of Outeiro, which became the epicenter of the phenomena.

01:00:46One day I burned here, another day there...

01:00:51It's incredible. And how long did it last?

01:00:53That situation.

01:00:54Is that what we voted for?

01:00:57Well...

01:00:58Well...

01:00:58About fifteen days.

01:01:00About fifteen days.

01:01:03That was a long time ago, wasn't it?

01:01:05One day it burned more, other days less.

01:01:08It burned less.

01:01:09By the way, if it had been raining, it wouldn't have burned like it did today.

01:01:13Ricardo Liste's house in Outeiro was inexplicably the most affected.

01:01:19Catching fire on more than a dozen occasions.

01:01:21The entire neighborhood was on alert for what came to be called haunted or bewitched fires.

01:01:28One day, screams announced that tragedy was brewing inside the horse stable.

01:01:33The horse had to be taken out, because the horse and the fire produced much more smoke than actual fire.

01:01:40We couldn't see the flames, but the smoke...

01:01:42There was a lot of smoke inside the stables.

01:01:45And within a human chain, between seven or eight people,

01:01:50go inside the stable to get the horse out,

01:01:52because the horse, out of fear, wouldn't go out the door and had to be taken out.

01:01:57The Cuarto Milenio team tried to locate Ricardo Liste,

01:02:00But he had, unfortunately, passed away several years ago.

01:02:05But we were able to speak with one of his sons, Manuel, who was reluctant to tell us the story.

01:02:12Not so much out of fear of the cameras,

01:02:13but because of the sad memories that period of incidents brought back to him

01:02:18that caused so much damage to his property.

01:02:21They all gathered and turned off...

01:02:25In our house too.

01:02:27Well, the thing is, our house was all made of wood.

01:02:31The floors were warped and the wood dried out.

01:02:36And did the neighbors come to help?

01:02:39We all got together.

01:02:41There was no other work being done, to be honest.

01:02:44So, everything stopped, right?

01:02:46Here, all they did was watch and put out fires when they broke out.

01:02:53One of the most dramatic and unexpected episodes

01:02:56It was starring two children, residents of the village,

01:03:00that miraculously did not perish in the flames

01:03:03thanks to the premonitory intervention of Manuel Liste's sister.

01:03:08He warned that there were some children, there were two children playing

01:03:11very close to a pile of straw that we had removed from another house

01:03:15And when they went to pick up the children there,

01:03:18Within ten minutes that pile of straw was burning too.

01:03:32By then, panic had already spread.

01:03:34among the few inhabitants of Auteiro and the neighboring villages.

01:03:38The phenomenon reached such a magnitude

01:03:40that even the Civil Guard of Sigüero

01:03:42he appeared in these villages

01:03:46and even in the presence of a Civil Guard couple

01:03:49Then one of these inexplicable fires occurred.

01:03:54The Civil Guard themselves didn't know what to do.

01:03:57How to react to shocking spontaneous combustions.

01:04:01Fear dominated everything.

01:04:03The neighbors stood guard outside their homes, fearing the worst.

01:04:08While those fires were occurring

01:04:10We slept outside the houses

01:04:12because we were afraid it would catch fire inside at night.

01:04:15Then, one night at four in the morning

01:04:18We could hear the dogs barking very insistently

01:04:21towards an area of the village where there was an oak grove

01:04:24And then we wanted to go

01:04:25but among the neighbors alone

01:04:27Well, we were, let's say, a little bit scared

01:04:29And nearby, a Civil Guard couple was sleeping.

01:04:32And we went to look for her so that they would come.

01:04:34But they told us it was better in the morning.

01:04:36because we were suspicious

01:04:37that someone was lurking around

01:04:39and that he be the one to light the fire

01:04:42But we never actually saw anyone suspicious.

01:04:45Never.

01:04:46The Civil Guard arrived to collect ashes

01:04:48and parts of burned objects

01:04:50to subject them to analysis

01:04:51But the results, if there were any.

01:04:54They never became public knowledge.

01:04:57The only thing they stated was that such flames

01:04:59They did not give off a sulfur smell

01:05:00or some other chemical substance.

01:05:03And so, as they came

01:05:05the haunted fires of the trace

01:05:07They disappeared at the end of July 1976.

01:05:11While scientists cannot agree

01:05:14popular traditions

01:05:16They continue to attribute the origin of these fires

01:05:19to invisible supernatural entities

01:05:21stirred up by evil wills

01:05:24of the dreaded witches.

01:05:36June 27, 1976

01:05:39the legendary newspaper

01:05:41The Northern Gazette

01:05:42Report by JJ Benítez

01:05:44It was titled

01:05:45that way they had of calling it a title

01:05:47No?

01:05:47magnificent

01:05:48in my opinion

01:05:49nervous cattle

01:05:53and they were already referring

01:05:54with a series of reports

01:05:56to a phenomenon that was unsettling

01:05:58in this area of Spain

01:05:59They called it Galicia

01:06:00friendly fires

01:06:02clear

01:06:03We need to put ourselves in the situation

01:06:05in that sociocultural environment

01:06:07And what were those people going to think?

01:06:09What were they going to think?

01:06:10So, what do they still think today?

01:06:12That question has been attempted to be answered.

01:06:13our colleague Pablo Bellarrubia

01:06:15whom I also welcome

01:06:17to this fourth season

01:06:17from the Fourth Millennium

01:06:18Pablo

01:06:19how are you?

01:06:20marvelous

01:06:20Well, what was the atmosphere like there?

01:06:22Pablo, is that fear still there?

01:06:24Does the misunderstanding continue?

01:06:25Do people think it was a phenomenon?

01:06:26supernatural?

01:06:27Or are there explainable physical roots?

01:06:30People are still very reluctant

01:06:32as we were able to verify

01:06:33in speaking openly about the topic

01:06:35but little by little

01:06:36talking to people

01:06:37They started opening up and telling me

01:06:39that really

01:06:39The event was inexplicable

01:06:41To this day, there is no explanation.

01:06:43for those inherited phenomena

01:06:44left traces

01:06:46in the population

01:06:47in a psychic way

01:06:49I would say

01:06:49well yes

01:06:50He left it

01:06:51was

01:06:52and in fact

01:06:53when speaking with Manuel Liste

01:06:54this boy

01:06:56that he had interviewed

01:06:57at first

01:06:58there in Oteiro

01:06:59The man confessed to me

01:07:00a very hard thing

01:07:02and that impressed me

01:07:03And that's why too

01:07:04one of the reasons

01:07:04who didn't want to talk anymore

01:07:05because he got excited

01:07:06and she cried

01:07:07This man

01:07:08a man's tone

01:07:09a fully formed man

01:07:10such

01:07:11and crying

01:07:12for the following reason

01:07:13according to him

01:07:15the Civil Guard

01:07:16by Sigueiro

01:07:17had attributed it to him

01:07:19him

01:07:19the fires

01:07:21that had emerged there

01:07:21in such a way

01:07:23they take it away

01:07:23to the police station

01:07:25and they give him

01:07:26a beating

01:07:26this boy

01:07:27clear

01:07:28he is left very traumatized

01:07:29The same neighbors go.

01:07:31from Oteiro

01:07:32they go there

01:07:33to remove it

01:07:33to take it out

01:07:34from the police station

01:07:35outraged

01:07:36for the treatment

01:07:36that they gave to the child

01:07:37it concludes at the end

01:07:39that the child

01:07:39It had not been

01:07:40the perpetrator

01:07:41of these fires

01:07:42but the footprint

01:07:43It stayed there

01:07:44and in fact

01:07:44until today

01:07:45when I told him

01:07:46I told him

01:07:47the history of the fires

01:07:47the man began

01:07:49to cry

01:07:49uncontrolled

01:07:50and I had to calm him down

01:07:51Furthermore, for this reason

01:07:52also

01:07:53then this

01:07:54let's say

01:07:54the police

01:07:55accusing people

01:07:56searching

01:07:57a solution

01:07:58but she didn't find it

01:07:59in the end

01:07:59Well

01:08:00human history

01:08:00It needs to be made clear

01:08:01which is the testimony

01:08:02of that person

01:08:03not that we'd say

01:08:04us

01:08:04that the Civil Guard

01:08:05not at all

01:08:05assaulted a boy

01:08:07That's what counts

01:08:08this person

01:08:08is testing

01:08:08in the year 76

01:08:09still remnants

01:08:11of Francoism

01:08:12from that time

01:08:12that won't be true

01:08:13We can't say it here.

01:08:14simply

01:08:15the feeling

01:08:16about what

01:08:16by the way

01:08:17curious Pablo

01:08:18and curious

01:08:19I'm saying it

01:08:19to all components

01:08:20that I will be presenting

01:08:21you will remember

01:08:22if they continue

01:08:23fourth millennium

01:08:23in the first season

01:08:25we were talking

01:08:25from some fires

01:08:26very similar

01:08:27this case

01:08:28He was very unknown

01:08:29but one

01:08:30which it did have

01:08:30a relevance

01:08:32extremely important

01:08:33It was the one with the fires

01:08:33from the stream

01:08:34I'm sure you

01:08:35they remember

01:08:35more than a thousand fires

01:08:36spontaneous

01:08:37in an area of Almería

01:08:38There, too, blame is placed.

01:08:39to a girl

01:08:40They even call her

01:08:41the girl of the fires

01:08:42which also in the end

01:08:42His life is a little

01:08:43dramatic

01:08:44people think

01:08:45exactly the same

01:08:46in a species

01:08:46of spirits

01:08:47of spectra

01:08:48of phenomenon

01:08:48supernatural

01:08:49that surrounds him

01:08:50occurs

01:08:50in the same month of the year

01:08:52It's curious.

01:08:53June

01:08:53and also

01:08:54the description

01:08:55of the fire type

01:08:56sometimes bluish

01:08:56It's the same

01:08:57the identical description

01:08:59And not only that

01:09:00but suddenly

01:09:00one day

01:09:01all that stops

01:09:02exactly the same

01:09:04on

01:09:04the one

01:09:05Civil Guard

01:09:06as stated

01:09:07the press

01:09:08was a witness

01:09:09from one of the fires

01:09:10it gives the impression

01:09:11that history

01:09:12no more, no less

01:09:13that at 31 years old

01:09:15difference

01:09:15it runs her over

01:09:161945

01:09:17Galicia 1976

01:09:19is repeated with millimeter precision

01:09:21and one is left behind

01:09:22amazed

01:09:23Of course

01:09:23There was no connection

01:09:24apparent

01:09:25among the witnesses

01:09:26but it happened

01:09:26We also have

01:09:27the scientific version

01:09:28the version that can

01:09:30to learn

01:09:30and brings it

01:09:31Antonio Álvarez

01:09:32He is an industrial chemist

01:09:33and also

01:09:34vice dean

01:09:35from the college of chemists

01:09:36from Madrid

01:09:36we are really

01:09:37Well, we're very happy

01:09:38that he comes here

01:09:39I'm sure they'll explain to us.

01:09:41very interesting things

01:09:42Welcome Antonio

01:09:43Thanks Iker

01:09:44by the way

01:09:45You were looking at the piece

01:09:46very interested

01:09:47in great detail

01:09:48and there are several keys

01:09:49very important

01:09:50first

01:09:51when a fire

01:09:52I ask you

01:09:53as it should be

01:09:54observing now

01:09:55all our audience

01:09:56with ignorance

01:09:57obviously

01:09:58They speak of fires

01:10:00greenish or bluish

01:10:01That indicates something.

01:10:02Antonio

01:10:02Let's see

01:10:03the topic

01:10:04the color of the flame

01:10:05is significant

01:10:06of the amount of oxygen

01:10:07that is in combustion

01:10:08in this case air

01:10:09or also

01:10:10the amount of fuel

01:10:12that is to say

01:10:12be more bluish

01:10:14It can be bluish

01:10:14reddish

01:10:15etc.

01:10:15then also

01:10:16It depends on the type

01:10:17of compound

01:10:17could be

01:10:18For example

01:10:19phosphorus

01:10:19if a match is lit

01:10:21the typical llama

01:10:22of the matches

01:10:23Well, it gives off a fire.

01:10:23let's say

01:10:24of one color

01:10:24more reddish

01:10:25etc.

01:10:25then it depends

01:10:26of the type of fuel

01:10:28of the amount of air

01:10:29or the amount of oxygen

01:10:30of the conditions

01:10:31the more bluish

01:10:32more oxygen

01:10:34more oxygen

01:10:36examining

01:10:36what people were saying

01:10:37always from the vision

01:10:38sociological

01:10:39what people interpret

01:10:40you who keys

01:10:41prima facie

01:10:42Antonio

01:10:42they are sacks

01:10:43of this story

01:10:44you see clearly

01:10:45some kind of physical phenomenon

01:10:47that today

01:10:47Yes, we can explain

01:10:48Yes, we'll see.

01:10:50so that

01:10:50to have a combustion

01:10:52it is needed

01:10:52three elements

01:10:53fundamentally

01:10:54on the one hand

01:10:54that we have a source

01:10:55starting

01:10:56or let's say

01:10:57it would be a match

01:10:58so to speak

01:10:58on the other hand

01:10:59that there is fuel

01:11:00in this case

01:11:01For example

01:11:01we are living

01:11:01There might be straw.

01:11:02there could have

01:11:03wood

01:11:13etc.

01:11:13three elements

01:11:13lack

01:11:14does not occur

01:11:14For example

01:11:15if you have

01:11:16in a cube

01:11:16gasoline

01:11:18and you throw in a match

01:11:19it doesn't burn

01:11:20because?

01:11:20because the cube

01:11:22it doesn't burn

01:11:22nothing is burning

01:11:23what everyone

01:11:23He believes that they come out

01:11:24impressive flames

01:11:25nothing

01:11:26because?

01:11:26because in fact

01:11:27the match

01:11:28you throw it in the bucket

01:11:29and it turns off

01:11:29because the cube

01:11:31It is shared

01:11:32half of liquid gasoline

01:11:33and half of the vapors

01:11:34that have issued

01:11:35oxygen

01:11:36There's no air there

01:11:37however

01:11:38if you

01:11:38that same gasoline

01:11:39the open

01:11:40a surface

01:11:40There's a puddle of gasoline

01:11:41and at that moment

01:11:42if you throw away a match

01:11:43That burns

01:11:44then it would be a little

01:11:45the explanation

01:11:46but always

01:11:47My impression, Antonio

01:11:48It's just that seeing

01:11:49this type of fire

01:11:50that people saw

01:11:50that there was nobody there

01:11:51what people say

01:11:52The problem is that there isn't that asset.

01:11:54maybe that match

01:11:55But if we analyze

01:11:56a bit

01:11:56I'm taking it

01:11:57grades

01:11:58For example

01:11:59There is a lady

01:12:00which comments

01:12:00that started a fire

01:12:02or before starting

01:12:03the fire

01:12:04drag

01:12:04drag the

01:12:05or drag down

01:12:06etc.

01:12:07and let's say

01:12:08to remove it

01:12:09and it starts to burn

01:12:09then simply

01:12:10that dragging

01:12:11which can generate

01:12:12It's a friction

01:12:13and can generate sparks

01:12:14me neither

01:12:15I don't know

01:12:16how were they doing

01:12:16but me

01:12:17the first thing that came to mind

01:12:18then for example

01:12:19they comment

01:12:19that have occurred

01:12:20fires in blocks

01:12:21then in blocks

01:12:22normally

01:12:23if the block

01:12:23It's not clean

01:12:24then normally

01:12:25Well, there are 10 animals

01:12:27those dismissals

01:12:28are deposited

01:12:29one on top of the other

01:12:29and if they don't withdraw

01:12:31on time

01:12:31can ferment

01:12:32and produce methane

01:12:32Methane is like natural gas

01:12:34what we have

01:12:34we use in our homes

01:12:35to heat

01:12:36then at the slightest

01:12:37spark that arises

01:12:38etc.

01:12:39for example

01:12:39a horse

01:12:40simply tapping his heels

01:12:43against the ground

01:12:43well the horseshoe

01:12:45can generate a spark

01:12:46and that spark

01:12:47if there is methane

01:12:48Well, because there have been

01:12:49There are fecal ferments

01:12:50etc.

01:12:51can cause a fire

01:12:52There is a topic

01:12:53that they have commented

01:12:53also

01:12:54some children were coming out

01:12:54playing ball

01:12:55believe

01:12:56and something like

01:12:57the mother or the sister

01:12:58saw them

01:12:59and withdrew them

01:13:00and at the moment

01:13:00that withdrew them

01:13:01It started to burn

01:13:01when they are playing

01:13:03to the ball

01:13:03what they generate

01:13:03It's static electricity.

01:13:05It's typical.

01:13:06that when

01:13:06You have, for example,

01:13:07well a

01:13:07a

01:13:09And that can do

01:13:10under conditions

01:13:11that is to say

01:13:11the static need

01:13:12It would be the spark

01:13:13the fuel is

01:13:15Let it be the straw

01:13:16or hay

01:13:17and then the air

01:13:18that carries oxygen

01:13:19our good friend

01:13:20Year Zero editor

01:13:21Miguel Pedrero

01:13:22had the opportunity

01:13:23also to investigate

01:13:25on the ground

01:13:26something was happening

01:13:28in the year 96

01:13:29Welcome Miguel

01:13:30good night

01:13:30very good

01:13:31that you remember

01:13:32of that story

01:13:32We even have photographs

01:13:33What happened

01:13:34because this is already very close

01:13:35It's not the 70s

01:13:36No, this happened

01:13:38in April 1996

01:13:40in this house here

01:13:41No

01:13:41Yes, precisely.

01:13:42in that house

01:13:43I also remember

01:13:44that when we arrived at the place

01:13:45let's say the phenomenon

01:13:47I was in the middle

01:13:48effervescence

01:13:49was

01:13:49well

01:13:50a few days ago

01:13:51that it had ended

01:13:53that phenomenon

01:13:54of spontaneous fires

01:13:55and everyone

01:13:56I was quite nervous

01:13:57this story

01:13:58Like I said

01:13:59It begins on April 26th

01:14:00of 1996

01:14:02also in

01:14:03precisely

01:14:04alluding to the words

01:14:06which said

01:14:06what Antonio was saying

01:14:07precisely in one block

01:14:08all fires

01:14:10also in one block

01:14:11all fires

01:14:11took place

01:14:12in one block

01:14:13and in a shed

01:14:14exhibit

01:14:16the owner of the house

01:14:18well

01:14:18Maria Jesus

01:14:19one day

01:14:20well

01:14:21in the block

01:14:22precisely in the area

01:14:23from the drinking trough

01:14:23in the area we see

01:14:24in that photograph

01:14:26still with marks

01:14:27from the fire

01:14:27of some areas

01:14:28and as he told us

01:14:30well at a certain point

01:14:31He saw how from the drinking trough

01:14:33a blaze erupted

01:14:35Well, at first

01:14:37He didn't attach much importance to it.

01:14:38to the fact

01:14:39But that phenomenon

01:14:40It happened again

01:14:42that same day

01:14:43also in the block

01:14:44and in the following days

01:14:46well up to the point

01:14:48about what

01:14:49about what

01:14:50that a

01:14:51Well, a lot of straw

01:14:53that they had

01:14:54that they had

01:14:54outside the block

01:14:55in the shed

01:14:56It began to burn

01:14:57well that

01:14:58It already alarmed them

01:15:00They were extremely alarmed

01:15:01No?

01:15:02and well

01:15:02Like I said

01:15:03even

01:15:03even the neighbors

01:15:05all the neighbors

01:15:06of this town

01:15:07they did

01:15:08they stood guard

01:15:09overnight

01:15:10because they were afraid

01:15:11that those spontaneous fires

01:15:12because they would produce

01:15:14some

01:15:14some misfortune

01:15:15Mary Jesus herself

01:15:16and several of the neighbors

01:15:17that were

01:15:18who were there

01:15:19standing guard

01:15:20they saw

01:15:20on several occasions

01:15:21those spontaneous fires

01:15:23that always arose

01:15:24from the drinking trough area

01:15:26or from that shed

01:15:27from the ground

01:15:28He passed by there

01:15:29civil defense

01:15:30the Civil Guard

01:15:32It's more

01:15:32even a neighbor

01:15:33he told us

01:15:34that two civil guards

01:15:36They were also witnesses

01:15:37again

01:15:38again

01:15:39again

01:15:40the thing is

01:15:41when it was heard

01:15:42I was just remembering

01:15:43of several features

01:15:44of this case

01:15:45No?

01:15:45of two civil guards

01:15:46that there

01:15:47next to this house

01:15:48They also observed

01:15:49as it suddenly appeared

01:15:51from the ground

01:15:52a flare

01:15:54Even technicians arrived

01:15:55from the Ministry of Environment

01:15:58and in principle

01:15:59They didn't find

01:16:00no explanation

01:16:00at the time

01:16:01I interviewed

01:16:02to whom it was

01:16:04delegate

01:16:04from the Ministry of Environment

01:16:05in the province of A Coruña

01:16:07But there have been cases

01:16:08even where

01:16:08the strangeness is greater

01:16:10we could say

01:16:10where

01:16:11where the alarm

01:16:12in people

01:16:12has been absolute

01:16:14including human victims

01:16:15We have spoken on occasion

01:16:16from this

01:16:16and we don't know anymore

01:16:17if it has anything to do with it

01:16:18with the same phenomenon

01:16:19This one who burns houses down

01:16:21that burns wood

01:16:22that burns

01:16:23combustible materials

01:16:24and others who burn

01:16:25even people

01:16:26There are impressive cases

01:16:27There are cases

01:16:28very strange

01:16:29of people

01:16:30that is unknown

01:16:31how they started to burn

01:16:32them alone

01:16:33and also

01:16:33It's the complete opposite

01:16:34that in these cases

01:16:35because in these cases

01:16:36those that burn

01:16:37are the objects

01:16:38in the case

01:16:39of human combustion

01:16:40spontaneous

01:16:41what burns

01:16:41is the person

01:16:42but respect

01:16:43everything around

01:16:44It's more

01:16:45They are usually in the beds

01:16:46and the mattress

01:16:47It doesn't burn

01:16:47they usually are

01:16:49lying down

01:16:50asleep

01:16:50and the nightgown

01:16:51he doesn't even suffer

01:16:52no burns

01:16:54but they

01:16:54For example

01:16:55I have a case

01:16:56of 1943

01:16:57in Saxed

01:16:58the lady

01:16:59made night

01:17:00has to go

01:17:01the doctor

01:17:02because it says

01:17:02who feels severe pain

01:17:03on the back

01:17:04when she lifts her nightgown

01:17:05he sees that his back

01:17:06It's completely burned out

01:17:08they don't know

01:17:09What is this due to?

01:17:10that fire

01:17:10what are they due to

01:17:11those burns

01:17:12because in the rest

01:17:13of the room

01:17:14there is no burn

01:17:15nowhere

01:17:16no trace

01:17:16besides

01:17:17that there is no liquid

01:17:18corrosive

01:17:19that there may be

01:17:19burned skin

01:17:20but there would also have been

01:17:21burned the mattress

01:17:22and the nightgown

01:17:23in which she was lying

01:17:24and to such an extent

01:17:25The burns were coming.

01:17:26that they had to put

01:17:27anesthesia

01:17:27to cure it

01:17:28She is taken to the hospital

01:17:30and a few days later

01:17:30dies

01:17:31because of those burns

01:17:33they also say

01:17:34the experts

01:17:35and have been done

01:17:36real studies

01:17:37I have a book here

01:17:38which is called

01:17:38fire from the sky

01:17:39because before

01:17:40the belief

01:17:41It's that fire

01:17:42It came from the sky

01:17:43It was something cursed.

01:17:44from ancient times

01:17:45It was divine punishment

01:17:47from ancient times

01:17:48And there are cases

01:17:48of human combustion

01:17:49spontaneously collected

01:17:50from the beginning

01:17:51of the 18th century

01:17:521705

01:17:53And there are cases

01:17:54where

01:17:55the doctors

01:17:56the forensic experts

01:17:57they report

01:17:57of cases

01:17:58of people

01:17:59that spontaneously

01:18:00have begun

01:18:01to burn

01:18:01and also

01:18:01that most

01:18:02of the times

01:18:02only remain

01:18:03We have some images

01:18:04only remain

01:18:04the legs

01:18:06the limbs

01:18:07seem to respect each other

01:18:08both hands

01:18:09like the legs

01:18:10like the head

01:18:11There are other cases

01:18:12who have even been

01:18:13marriages

01:18:14those that both

01:18:15have burned

01:18:16without the cause being known

01:18:17Here we have one of the most famous

01:18:19some images

01:18:20have reproduced

01:18:21sometimes

01:18:22to talk about this CHE

01:18:23Spontaneous human combustion

01:18:24which by the way

01:18:25Antonio

01:18:25This is a phenomenon

01:18:26distinct

01:18:27It's a phenomenon

01:18:28which has nothing to do with

01:18:29with what we are talking about

01:18:30and by the look on your face

01:18:31sounds different

01:18:32TRUE?

01:18:33Yes, yes

01:18:33come on

01:18:33I'm staying

01:18:34surprised

01:18:35Let's see

01:18:36a combustion

01:18:37in the end

01:18:38It is a fuel

01:18:39which in this case would be

01:18:40unfortunately

01:18:41the human body

01:18:42with its fat

01:18:43and so on

01:18:43can

01:18:44carbon

01:18:44that is what we have

01:18:45second

01:18:46We have oxygen

01:18:47which would be the air

01:18:48and then what would be missing

01:18:49would be the source

01:18:50starting

01:18:51Well, I don't know.

01:18:52In this case I am seeing

01:18:53a fireplace

01:18:54I don't know if

01:18:54But of course

01:18:55I

01:18:55that

01:18:57start watching

01:18:57spontaneously

01:18:58and also taking advantage of

01:19:00Here's the cast

01:19:00Carmen

01:19:01We have some photographs

01:19:02that we show

01:19:04with great ease

01:19:05many years ago

01:19:06here on Fourth Millennium

01:19:07but they are still

01:19:08a sample

01:19:08of a mystery

01:19:09that they are there

01:19:10medical photos

01:19:11and forensic experts

01:19:12and well

01:19:12if we look further

01:19:13some of the bodies

01:19:14They're even wearing stockings

01:19:15that have not burned

01:19:16which would be the first thing

01:19:17that would burn

01:19:18Because of course

01:19:18They are acrylic

01:19:20and so?

01:19:20which expands

01:19:21It is fire

01:19:22and in this case

01:19:23has been respected

01:19:24just as in the other cases

01:19:26the case of Mrs.

01:19:27that I was telling you about earlier

01:19:28She was in bed

01:19:29everything was

01:19:30the fabric

01:19:30and there was nothing burned

01:19:31had respected

01:19:32absolutely everything

01:19:33the materials

01:19:34that normally

01:19:35They must be burned

01:19:35before a human body

01:19:37But I was living

01:19:37a marriage

01:19:38the Kiley marriage

01:19:39in 1905

01:19:40the neighbors

01:19:41in Southampton

01:19:42They have to enter

01:19:43to look for them

01:19:44because they start to hear

01:19:46like a species

01:19:46scratches

01:19:48at one of the doors

01:19:49they say that not even

01:19:50They hear them scream

01:19:51because apparently

01:19:51human fires

01:19:52spontaneous

01:19:53They are so fast

01:19:54that not even

01:19:55the victim

01:19:56It gives her time

01:19:56to scream

01:19:57not even that

01:19:58They enter the house

01:20:00when they see that they don't respond

01:20:01They pull the door down

01:20:02and they meet

01:20:03to Mr. Kiley

01:20:04that is on the ground

01:20:05completely burned

01:20:06and her

01:20:07who is sitting

01:20:08in a rocking chair

01:20:09velvet

01:20:10She is

01:20:11completely burned

01:20:12except the head

01:20:13and the limbs

01:20:14the hair

01:20:15It didn't even burn

01:20:16but instead

01:20:16velvet

01:20:18from the rocking chair

01:20:19it was intact

01:20:20and Paul

01:20:21had the opportunity

01:20:22to take some photographs

01:20:23impressive

01:20:24that we're going to see

01:20:25in an investigation

01:20:26in Brazil

01:20:26of something that could have ended

01:20:29very badly

01:20:29Yes, in tragedy

01:20:31practically

01:20:31We're talking

01:20:32of 1996

01:20:33I am traveling

01:20:35through northern Brazil

01:20:35state of Piauí

01:20:36and the information reaches me.

01:20:38that in a town

01:20:39called Peter II

01:20:39in a house

01:20:41specifically

01:20:41a series of events occurred

01:20:42of terrible fires

01:20:43and that some of them

01:20:45Well

01:20:45the few belongings

01:20:47of these families

01:20:47They were disappearing

01:20:49consumed by the flames

01:20:50six burned mattresses

01:20:52and look

01:20:52inside

01:20:53the fire

01:20:54always the fires

01:20:55they always started

01:20:56from within

01:20:56outwards

01:20:57what they told me

01:20:58that a fire

01:20:59For example

01:20:59in a material

01:21:00so flammable

01:21:02Yes, that's what I was saying before.

01:21:03that is to say

01:21:04surely

01:21:05Well

01:21:05I don't know the area

01:21:06but it would happen

01:21:08a weather situation

01:21:10or from an environmental point of view

01:21:11more favorable

01:21:12for the fire

01:21:13inside

01:21:13a kind of microclimate

01:21:14so to speak

01:21:15starts to burn

01:21:16from the inside out

01:21:18expands

01:21:18very curious

01:21:19And the curious thing is

01:21:19that there was, for example

01:21:20he told me

01:21:20the owner of the house

01:21:21that on the table

01:21:23There were several

01:21:24There's even a photo

01:21:24from the table

01:21:25all burned

01:21:26and inside a closet

01:21:27saw also

01:21:28that the fire

01:21:28It started from inside the closet

01:21:29but the table

01:21:30It was on the surface

01:21:31from the table

01:21:32and he felt

01:21:33who put his hand

01:21:33in a limb

01:21:34I felt hot

01:21:35and after a while

01:21:36at the other end

01:21:37A small flame appeared

01:21:38and it was produced

01:21:40a small fire

01:21:41that burned

01:21:42and it quickly died out

01:21:43But the worst is over

01:21:44happened

01:21:45with a baby

01:21:46who had a little girl

01:21:47one year

01:21:48a year and a bit

01:21:48who was in a hammock

01:21:49and people usually sleep

01:21:50in hammocks

01:21:51or take a nap

01:21:52and suddenly

01:21:53then come

01:21:54They hear the girl crying

01:21:56and they approach

01:21:57And come then

01:21:57the flames consuming

01:21:59the strips

01:22:00stringed

01:22:02that support

01:22:04the hammock

01:22:04of the girl

01:22:05and almost

01:22:06no tragedy occurs

01:22:07attend

01:22:07They throw a blanket

01:22:08And it seems they succeed

01:22:09put out the fire

01:22:10It has been extremely interesting

01:22:11real friends

01:22:12do this review

01:22:13between yesterday and today

01:22:14with very impressive photos

01:22:15since the curse

01:22:17from antiquity

01:22:17even the cases

01:22:18you are welcome

01:22:19from 10 years ago

01:22:20Miguel Pedrero

01:22:20As always, my friend.

01:22:21Good luck with that magazine.

01:22:23in year zero

01:22:23and see you very soon

01:22:25whenever you want

01:22:26thank you

01:22:27Antonio Álvarez

01:22:28industrial chemist

01:22:29vice dean

01:22:30from the college of chemists

01:22:31from Madrid

01:22:31Thank you for being so informative.

01:22:33for explaining everything to us

01:22:34in such a graphic way

01:22:36Thank you

01:22:36And let it not be the last time

01:22:37that you're here

01:22:38thank you

01:22:38Thanks Antonio

01:22:39and Paul

01:22:40next adventure

01:22:41which it will surely have

01:22:42fundamental elements

01:22:43which is the impression

01:22:44fear

01:22:45and the lack of understanding

01:22:46of some people

01:22:47of some phenomena

01:22:48And we'll be there.

01:22:49to tell the tale

01:22:49Thanks Pablo

01:22:50Thank you very much, Iker.

01:22:51And now, images.

01:22:52images from Cuarto Milenio

01:23:00a television viewer

01:23:01Erika's name

01:23:02I was in Ávila

01:23:03a photograph is taken

01:23:05and suddenly

01:23:05Someone hasn't invited me

01:23:06and wants to know who he is

01:23:07He sent us the photograph

01:23:09from an emblematic location

01:23:10from Ávila

01:23:11the four posts

01:23:12there we see

01:23:13as our viewer

01:23:14Erika

01:23:15was becoming

01:23:16a photograph

01:23:17and it seems that it was

01:23:18supported

01:23:18in one of the columns

01:23:20but

01:23:21who is the character

01:23:22Let's enlarge the image

01:23:23that is

01:23:24behind her

01:23:26Here it is

01:23:27It looks perfect

01:23:28that she wears

01:23:29a kind of coat

01:23:30like a scarf

01:23:31a red sweater

01:23:31and some boots

01:23:33also red or brown

01:23:34but

01:23:34and the male character

01:23:36that appears behind

01:23:37She says she was

01:23:38completely alone

01:23:39and that her boyfriend

01:23:39was the one who was

01:23:40taking that photograph

01:23:42who could it be

01:23:43that strange character

01:23:44Well, the truth is

01:23:45us

01:23:46we cannot know

01:23:48it's true

01:23:48that there was someone here

01:23:50We see it here

01:23:51we identified it

01:23:52perfectly

01:23:52It even has

01:23:53a yellow sweater

01:23:55He seems to be smiling.

01:23:56with short hair

01:23:57Here we see it

01:23:58and right below

01:23:59there she is

01:24:00taller than her

01:24:01also supported

01:24:02in the column

01:24:03Well

01:24:04photographically

01:24:05We cannot provide a solution

01:24:06Nor can we say

01:24:07that it's something strange

01:24:09something paranormal

01:24:10What Guillermo tells us

01:24:11is that someone

01:24:12I had to be there

01:24:13that at the last moment

01:24:15before hiding

01:24:16behind the column

01:24:17perhaps so that it would come out

01:24:18only her

01:24:18because its trail

01:24:19he stayed

01:24:20Iker

01:24:20That would be the only explanation

01:24:21that we can give

01:24:22although

01:24:23if she assures

01:24:24that there was absolutely no

01:24:26nobody there

01:24:26We have a problem

01:24:27a serious problem

01:24:29how can that be a problem

01:24:30the fact that people

01:24:31on the road

01:24:32Take photos

01:24:32something I don't quite understand

01:24:33But I've received several.

01:24:35of people who are driving

01:24:36They take out their mobile phones

01:24:37and they take a photograph

01:24:38in the end

01:24:39Let's analyze it

01:24:40But let our friend know

01:24:41specifically

01:24:41Ivan Vazquez

01:24:42This is a hefty fine.

01:24:44now here too, in addition

01:24:45It has an added surprise

01:24:47Yeah

01:24:47we also see

01:24:48the entire front

01:24:49of the car

01:24:50Don't take photographs

01:24:52please

01:24:53when they are driving

01:24:54But if they have any images

01:24:56strange

01:24:56some dream

01:24:57that they want to send us

01:24:59or their experiences

01:25:00They must do it

01:25:01two directions

01:25:02those two contacts

01:25:03fourth millennium

01:25:04at4.com

01:25:05if they do it through

01:25:06from the email

01:25:07and also our section

01:25:08mail

01:25:1018189

01:25:10with the postal code

01:25:12from Madrid

01:25:12and we're going to

01:25:13Let's see if we can find a solution.

01:25:15to this curious photograph

01:25:17we are going to expand

01:25:18where is

01:25:19the anomaly

01:25:20from the image

01:25:20There we see it

01:25:21TRUE

01:25:22There's like a character

01:25:23black dress

01:25:24which seems

01:25:25to be crossing

01:25:26then

01:25:27look

01:25:28You'll see it now

01:25:29almost in the middle of the road

01:25:30No?

01:25:31look at it

01:25:31Do you see it?

01:25:32Yeah

01:25:32There's something like a little racket

01:25:33TRUE?

01:25:34What is the road doing there?

01:25:35and a person

01:25:36we can even distinguish almost

01:25:38the legs

01:25:39and as if it were a dress

01:25:40short

01:25:41black

01:25:41but

01:25:42the head blurs

01:25:44also the arms

01:25:45If I had them.

01:25:46and what Guillermo León

01:25:49his analysis tells us

01:25:50look

01:25:50Here we have

01:25:52precisely the image

01:25:53cropped

01:25:53in two takes

01:25:54so that it can be seen

01:25:56better

01:25:57It's through a mobile phone

01:25:58therefore

01:25:59the image

01:25:59It's much worse.

01:26:00that if we do it

01:26:01with a camera

01:26:02also the lighting conditions

01:26:04They're not the best

01:26:05and the movement of the car

01:26:06all that does

01:26:08which precisely

01:26:08the image that was there

01:26:09then go out

01:26:10in this way

01:26:11this way

01:26:12Guillermo tells us

01:26:14that would

01:26:15to see the road

01:26:16but

01:26:17which surely

01:26:18a person

01:26:19I was at that moment

01:26:21passing

01:26:23precisely because of the place

01:26:25we see

01:26:26TRUE

01:26:27like a black shadow

01:26:28And if we enlarge it more

01:26:29It's already completely faded away

01:26:31we lose

01:26:32the image

01:26:33of that strange character

01:26:34that was being played

01:26:35to life

01:26:36because it was

01:26:37crossing through a place

01:26:38that should not

01:26:40But Iker

01:26:40It has to be

01:26:41a person of flesh and blood

01:26:42Well

01:26:43whether there is a person or not

01:26:43What is clear

01:26:44This image

01:26:45with these colors

01:26:46with this darkness

01:26:47with this darkness

01:26:48It's a typical scene

01:26:50of the mystery

01:26:50It seems almost like an apparition to us.

01:26:52even if I have

01:26:53perfect explanation

01:26:54The truth is that we

01:26:55in seven days

01:26:56we will continue wandering

01:26:57along the roads

01:26:58of knowledge

01:26:59like tonight

01:27:00to always know more

01:27:01to learn about topics

01:27:02that are sometimes hidden from us

01:27:03and above all

01:27:04to shed light

01:27:05over eternal mists

01:27:07of the enigmas

01:27:08in seven days

01:27:09They already know

01:27:09here

01:27:09all together

01:27:10on our mystery ship

01:27:23on the mystery ship

01:27:54Thanks for watching the video.

01:27:57Thanks for watching the video.

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