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Primeiro-ministro búlgaro destaca-se entre líderes da UE que pedem negociações com Moscovo sobre a guerra na Ucrânia, ganhando rótulo pró-Rússia.
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00:08Obrigada, Prime Minister.
00:09Muito tem sido dito sobre você em Brasileira,
00:12mas não temos muito de você em termos de quem você realmente é,
00:17sua perspectiva, sua views.
00:19Você sabe, e não é um secretário, e eu digo isso com todo o respeito,
00:21em Brasileira, havia uma conversa sobre um Prime Minister
00:25que talvez ia romper o consenso sobre a Ucrânia
00:30que iria tocar na mão de Russia.
00:32Você disse na época que era uma parida, uma simplificação de suas views,
00:36e é claro que você ganhou uma eleição com uma lancelade.
00:39Quando eu olho na guerra com a Ucrânia-Russia,
00:41qual é a avaliação que você faz e qual é a avaliação de segurança que você vê
00:45de sua perspectiva, chegando de Bulgaria?
00:47Eu acredito que essa guerra tem desafiado não apenas a nossa avaliação de segurança,
00:54na arquitetura.
00:55Ela desafiou a nossa base industrial.
00:58Ela desafiou a nossa unidade.
01:00Ela desafiou a nossa capacidade.
01:02Mas, mais do que, a guerra na Ucrânia desafiou a nossa pensão crítica
01:07e a abordagem realística.
01:10Ela desafiou a nossa capacidade de designar
01:15visíveis objetivos políticos e a traduzir
01:19them into a sound military strategy.
01:22E para definir a desire, a desired end-state,
01:27e para definir a vitória.
01:29Mostra de tudo, como definir a road towards essa vitória.
01:35E todas as circunstâncias que precisamos
01:37para pavar, para achar paz.
01:41Finalmente, para achar paz.
01:42Essa é a struggle, muito often, inside of myself.
01:48Talking about military and political analysis
01:52and approach to the world, to the conflict,
01:54to the overall global situation
01:57on the security landscape.
01:58Eu não quero colocar palavras em sua mão,
02:00mas o que você está dizendo é o fato de que
02:02você questione que há no estratégia para a vitória,
02:05dizendo que a vitória e a paz não vai funcionar.
02:08Isso significa que você é chamado pro-Russia?
02:10Is that what you're saying?
02:12It is typical, and it is very sad,
02:14that if you divert from the political mainstream,
02:19excuse me, you are labeled immediately
02:22being a pro-Russian.
02:23This is not the reality.
02:25And you say you're not.
02:26I don't care about supporting Russia.
02:30I care about realistic approach
02:32and to finally find the road to peace
02:36as soon as possible,
02:37because this war of attrition
02:39is a strong challenge
02:42for the peace
02:44in global perspective.
02:46It is a growing risk.
02:48This war drains our social
02:51and economic systems
02:52almost every day.
02:54So we need to find the peace,
02:56the road to peace
02:57as soon as possible,
02:58and we need to finally achieve
03:00a balance between military,
03:03economic and diplomatic instruments,
03:06because I don't see the right balance yet.
03:09And our main priority should be
03:11to speak and to work for peace.
03:13You remember when President Trump
03:16took the office?
03:16He had immediately proposal.
03:20He offered Ukraine
03:21and Russia ceasefire immediately,
03:24sit down at the negotiation table
03:26and sign a peace.
03:30What was his word?
03:31His word was that
03:32there will be no better condition
03:36for peace in the future.
03:38And his assessment was that
03:41the situation will get worse.
03:43because on the other side
03:46we had another offer
03:48to continue fighting, of course.
03:50Who put the offer?
03:51Let's put it up here in the open.
03:53European leadership.
03:53Okay, so you said
03:54the European leader said
03:54we'll continue the work.
03:55Absolutely, absolutely.
03:56You remember this,
03:57they said we must continue fighting.
03:59Yes, I support this.
04:01We must deliver...
04:02We must continue fighting, though?
04:03We must deliver more
04:05and more weapons and money.
04:07So what is the result
04:08a year and a half later?
04:11I will tell you perhaps two things.
04:12I'm not Ursula von der Leyen.
04:14I think that is clear.
04:14Everyone can see it.
04:15I'm not...
04:16No, I'm not...
04:16But she would have said at the time
04:18she didn't say stop fighting.
04:19She said weapons for Ukraine
04:21to equalize the field.
04:22I'm not envisioning Ursula von der Leyen.
04:25I'm not envisioning any European leader.
04:28But that was a common accepted approach
04:30for that time.
04:32Now we see a result.
04:34Hundreds of thousands more victims.
04:40devastation of the country.
04:43Do you know I'm afraid
04:44about the latest Russian strategy
04:49because they have shifted their strategy.
04:52But is the answer then saying
04:54we give you less
04:55because what the Europeans would say,
04:56the answer is not to say
04:57we cut military aid or equipment.
05:00It's the opposite.
05:01It is not enough
05:02because we don't have enough
05:03on stock already.
05:05We have delivered everything
05:07we had in stock
05:08and our defense industry
05:10needs time to produce it.
05:13And what is going on?
05:14That will be extremely heavy winter
05:16because now Ukraine cannot oppose enough,
05:20successfully enough,
05:21this intrusion of ballistic missiles
05:23and thousands of drones.
05:26they cannot counter these drones anymore
05:29with light arms
05:31and small men carried defense systems.
05:38So it is a huge challenge
05:40and if it continues like that,
05:44this will reflect from inside to outside,
05:47from the center of the country
05:49and industrial power
05:51back to the front line.
05:52It's not my fault.
05:53So what is the path then?
05:54If you had it your way,
05:54then what is the way forward diplomatically?
05:57My way is to achieve
05:59this tiny balance,
06:01extremely needed balance again
06:03between military, economic
06:04and diplomatic instruments.
06:06We have not exhausted
06:07the power of diplomacy.
06:10We need to do
06:11and to speak more about diplomacy.
06:13What do you mean by that?
06:14Because over the weekend
06:15we saw the German foreign minister
06:16took a meeting
06:17with his Russian counterpart.
06:19In the end,
06:20I don't see any progress
06:21that came out of that.
06:22I do see that
06:23the Russian foreign minister
06:24played games
06:25and to some extent
06:27insulted his counterpart
06:28after the meeting
06:29and I don't see that
06:30move in the goal post.
06:31So is this a question
06:32of the people
06:33who should conduct democracy
06:34or diplomacy
06:35are not the good ones?
06:36Other people should go?
06:38Who should go?
06:39I think some years ago
06:40my good friend,
06:42the prime minister of Belgium
06:43at that time,
06:44Xavier Bettel,
06:45stated this clearly.
06:47we must stop
06:48speaking about Russia.
06:50We must start
06:53talking with Russia.
06:55So we need to hear
06:56the concerns
06:58of both sides.
07:00Because
07:00at the final end,
07:02yes, of course,
07:03we need
07:03and we should support,
07:05continue supporting Ukraine.
07:07But the most important
07:09is to prepare
07:09the conditions
07:10for peace.
07:12and we should know
07:13that there is
07:14a limit
07:14of just delivering
07:16weapons
07:17and supporting
07:18because
07:19the final
07:20peace setup
07:22will be done
07:22by diplomacy,
07:23not by delivering
07:24weapons.
07:25So our call is
07:27to listen more
07:28to each other,
07:29to open the lines
07:30of communication.
07:31And the problem
07:32is that
07:33no one
07:34is raising
07:35the question
07:36about
07:37nuclear risk.
07:38does it exist?
07:41Maybe not.
07:42I don't know.
07:43But this is
07:45a risk.
07:46All of us,
07:46we speak
07:47about
07:47conventional warfighting,
07:49support Ukraine
07:51conventionally.
07:52But
07:53we have been
07:54trying to achieve...
07:54Do you honestly think
07:55we die
07:56in nuclear destruction
07:57out of this war?
07:58You honestly think
07:59that's one of the possibilities
08:00to have a...
08:01I don't think.
08:02But
08:02we always
08:04need to think
08:05about
08:05the worst
08:06case scenario.
08:07Are we prepared
08:08for this?
08:09Does anybody
08:10speak about
08:12risk assessment?
08:14Does it exist
08:15at all?
08:16Because we have
08:16been trying to
08:17achieve a
08:17conventional victory
08:18over the biggest
08:20nuclear power
08:22without having
08:23capabilities to
08:24counter their
08:25supersonic weapons.
08:26There is
08:27a risk.
08:28And we need
08:29to calculate
08:30at what extent
08:31and how
08:32is it possible
08:33at all.
08:34I don't believe
08:34in this,
08:35but we should
08:36take this
08:38into account.
08:39We should
08:39not
08:39neglect
08:40this.
08:40How much
08:41can we
08:42press
08:42Russia
08:42without
08:43Russia
08:43reacting
08:44with
08:44something
08:44else?
08:45I was
08:45listening
08:46also to
08:46I don't
08:47want to
08:47repeat.
08:48I'm not
08:50advocate of
08:51Putin
08:51and Lavrov
08:52at all.
08:53At all.
08:54But
08:54he warned
08:56a month ago
08:57I guess
08:58that
08:58if there is
08:59a war
09:00between
09:01Europe
09:01and Russia
09:03this war
09:04will be
09:04totally
09:05different
09:06and
09:07very
09:07short
09:07that
09:08was
09:08the
09:08warning
09:09this
09:09is
09:09a
09:09threat
09:10I
09:10don't
09:10accept
09:11this
09:11type
09:12of
09:12speaking
09:13but
09:13they
09:14speak
09:14this
09:15You condemn
09:15that statement
09:16You want to listen
09:17to this
09:17When you hear
09:19that statement
09:19what would
09:20you say
09:20you say
09:20I don't
09:21accept
09:21this
09:21I say
09:22that
09:25there is
09:25a nuclear
09:26card
09:27and
09:28when
09:29Russia
09:29when Putin
09:30feels
09:31strong
09:32he doesn't
09:34speak
09:34about
09:34this
09:35When Russia
09:36feels
09:36weak
09:36that happened
09:37in this
09:38war
09:38about
09:38some
09:38years
09:38ago
09:39they
09:40start
09:40playing
09:40again
09:41with
09:42the
09:42nuclear
09:42card
09:43So
09:44just
09:45I'm
09:46reminding
09:46that
09:47we
09:48need
09:48to
09:48have
09:49this
09:49into
09:49account
09:50We
09:51cannot
09:51close
09:51our
09:52eyes
09:52that
09:52there
09:53are
09:53nuclear
09:54weapons
09:54on our
09:55continent
09:57nuclear
09:58weapons
09:59in the
10:00arsenal
10:00of Russia
10:01and
10:02this
10:03is
10:04part
10:05of
10:05the
10:05game
10:06calculation
10:06and
10:07my
10:07appeal
10:08is
10:08that
10:08no
10:09one
10:09is
10:10speaking
10:10about
10:10this
10:11no
10:12one
10:12is
10:12taking
10:15account
10:16of
10:16this
10:16risk
10:16We
10:17have
10:17multiple
10:17analysts
10:18here
10:18who
10:18said
10:19they
10:19really
10:19believe
10:20to
10:20that
10:20extent
10:20it's
10:21a
10:21card
10:21that
10:21is
10:22played
10:22politically
10:22because
10:23the
10:23Russians
10:23think
10:24or
10:25seem
10:25to
10:25think
10:25weak
10:26leaders
10:26will
10:26get
10:27scared
10:27by
10:27it
10:29You
10:29disagree
10:30That's
10:31clear
10:31Let's
10:32look at
10:32the
10:32eastern
10:32flank
10:33There's
10:33a
10:34perception
10:34that
10:35the
10:35security
10:35picture
10:36for
10:36the
10:36eastern
10:37flank
10:37certainly
10:37for
10:38the
10:38Baltics
10:38and
10:38Poland
10:39has
10:39deteriorated
10:40over
10:40the
10:40past
10:41few
10:41months
10:41We've
10:42also
10:42seen
10:42the
10:43drone
10:44violations
10:44of
10:45the
10:45airspace
10:45what
10:46happened
10:46at
10:46the
10:46German
10:47airport
10:48Romania
10:48we've
10:49seen
10:49constant
10:50drone
10:50violations
10:51on and
10:52on and
10:52on and
10:52on
10:52Is this
10:53now a
10:53time
10:53to rethink
10:54if this
10:55is
10:55hybrid
10:56warfare
10:57and I
10:57wonder if
10:58you use
10:58that word
10:58warfare
10:59yourself
10:59Is this
11:00not a
11:01time
11:01for the
11:01Europeans
11:01to
11:02redefine
11:02what
11:03hybrid
11:04deterrence
11:04to
11:05this
11:05warfare
11:05should
11:06look like
11:06you
11:07mentioned
11:07hybrid
11:07warfare
11:08with
11:08drones
11:08it
11:10is
11:10and
11:10types
11:11of
11:12course
11:12it
11:12is
11:13extremely
11:13difficult
11:14to
11:15counter
11:15these
11:16drones
11:16why
11:17it
11:17is
11:17extremely
11:18difficult
11:18to
11:18detect
11:19them
11:19they
11:20fly
11:20low
11:20they
11:21use
11:22non-metal
11:22materials
11:23it
11:24is
11:24extremely
11:24difficult
11:25to
11:25detect
11:26on
11:26the
11:26radars
11:27so
11:28if
11:28you
11:28apply
11:29anti-drone
11:30systems
11:30they
11:32need
11:32to be
11:32very
11:33very
11:33congested
11:34on
11:34your
11:34boiler
11:34that
11:35means
11:35a
11:36lot
11:36a
11:37lot
11:38a
11:38huge
11:38number
11:39of
11:39such
11:39systems
11:40and
11:41their
11:41integration
11:42and
11:42this
11:42is
11:42a
11:42huge
11:43technical
11:44challenge
11:44to
11:44all
11:45of
11:45us
11:45and
11:46that's
11:46why
11:47my
11:47call
11:47is
11:47to
11:48think
11:48about
11:49this
11:49balance
11:49about
11:50different
11:51instruments
11:51of
11:52power
11:52and
11:53to
11:53design
11:54to
11:55formulate
11:55a
11:56feasible
11:56end
11:57state
11:57of
11:58this
11:58war
11:58because
11:59we
11:59have
11:59changed
12:01our
12:01desired
12:02end
12:03state
12:03about
12:04seven
12:04to
12:04eight
12:04times
12:05I
12:05don't
12:05remember
12:06even
12:06the
12:07formulation
12:07of
12:08these
12:09end
12:09states
12:09from
12:10the
12:10beginning
12:10of
12:10the
12:10war
12:10that
12:11position
12:11is
12:11still
12:12a
12:12minority
12:12in
12:12the
12:12European
12:13Council
12:13you
12:14say
12:14it's
12:14very
12:14different
12:14or
12:15very
12:15difficult
12:15to
12:16intercept
12:16the
12:17drones
12:17the
12:17constant
12:18violations
12:19that
12:19we're
12:19seeing
12:19repeatedly
12:19is
12:20is
12:20it
12:20because
12:20the
12:21European
12:21and
12:21NATO
12:21leadership
12:22is
12:22weak
12:22or
12:22is
12:22it
12:23because
12:23they're
12:23not
12:23sending
12:23the
12:24right
12:24message
12:24if
12:25you
12:25escalate
12:25so
12:25can
12:25we
12:27so
12:27what
12:27is
12:28your
12:28proposal
12:28to
12:29send
12:29a
12:29very
12:30hard
12:30warning
12:32to
12:32Russia
12:33I
12:33agree
12:34okay
12:35what
12:35about
12:36escalation
12:36so
12:37you
12:37just
12:38accept
12:38they
12:38can
12:38do
12:38whatever
12:39they
12:39want
12:39they
12:39can
12:39put
12:40explosives
12:40on
12:40an
12:41airport
12:41they
12:41can
12:41what's
12:42the
12:42alternative
12:43no
12:44my
12:44alternative
12:45is
12:45to
12:46open
12:47the
12:47lines
12:47of
12:47communication
12:49to
12:50sit
12:50down
12:50and
12:50to
12:51discuss
12:51this
12:52is
12:52my
12:52proposal
12:52and
12:53sooner
12:54or
12:54later
12:55it
12:56will
12:56be
12:56achieved
12:57again
12:58it
12:58depends
12:59this
12:59is
12:59a
13:00war
13:00of
13:00attrition
13:00it
13:01reflects
13:02our
13:02economies
13:02it
13:03reflects
13:03the
13:03price
13:03of
13:04the
13:04gas
13:06it
13:06reflects
13:07the
13:07shortage
13:08of
13:08fuel
13:09and
13:09gas
13:09in
13:10the
13:10European
13:11Union
13:11as
13:11well
13:12my
13:12question
13:12however
13:13on
13:13the
13:13money
13:13you
13:14will
13:14have
13:14to
13:14be
13:14in
13:14a
13:15consensus
13:15question
13:16both
13:17at
13:17NATO
13:18and
13:18at
13:18a
13:18European
13:19Union
13:19level
13:19when
13:20you
13:20get
13:21told
13:21that
13:21NATO
13:21you
13:21have
13:22to
13:22pay
13:225%
13:23you
13:23have
13:23to
13:23buy
13:24weapons
13:25that
13:25are
13:25still
13:25continue
13:26to
13:26be
13:26American
13:26at
13:27the
13:27same
13:27time
13:27we
13:27need
13:28to
13:28build
13:28our
13:28own
13:28European
13:29industry
13:30how do
13:31you
13:31go
13:31about
13:31this
13:32because
13:32what
13:32I
13:32see
13:33from
13:33the
13:33outside
13:34is
13:35you
13:36pay
13:36for
13:36American
13:37weapons
13:37while
13:37trying
13:38to
13:38build
13:38your
13:38industry
13:39while
13:39talking
13:39about
13:39made
13:40Europe
13:40you
13:40praise
13:41your
13:41visit
13:41with
13:41Macron
13:41but
13:42to
13:42me
13:43these
13:43are
13:43two
13:43strategies
13:43that
13:44at
13:44some
13:44point
13:44it's
13:44difficult
13:44to keep
13:45them
13:45on
13:45one
13:46lane
13:46because
13:46they're
13:47quite
13:47contradictory
13:47so
13:48which
13:48one
13:48is
13:48it
13:48going
13:49to
13:49be
13:49a
13:49made
13:49in
13:49Europe
13:50preference
13:50or
13:50not
13:50the
13:51problem
13:51is
13:52that
13:52the
13:52European
13:53defence
13:54industry
13:54is
13:54highly
13:55fragmented
13:55and
13:56of course
13:57we
13:57need
13:58to
13:58strengthen
13:58our
13:59defence
13:59industries
14:00safe
14:01instrument
14:01is
14:02extremely
14:02good
14:02instrument
14:03Bulgaria
14:03is
14:04is
14:04very
14:04active
14:05participant
14:06in
14:06this
14:06would
14:07you
14:07want
14:07a
14:07round
14:07two
14:07there's
14:08been
14:08debate
14:08that
14:08maybe
14:08if
14:09the
14:09first
14:09round
14:09was
14:09successful
14:10there
14:10could
14:10be
14:10a
14:10second
14:11one
14:11yes
14:11there
14:12could
14:12be
14:12and
14:13this
14:14is
14:14the
14:14right
14:14approach
14:15to
14:15strengthen
14:15our
14:16industrial
14:17base
14:17to
14:17work
14:17together
14:18to
14:19communicate
14:19to
14:20coordinate
14:20and
14:21this
14:21is
14:21the
14:21future
14:21for
14:22Europe
14:22and
14:22but
14:23as
14:23the
14:23Prime
14:23Minister
14:23of
14:23Bulgaria
14:24if
14:24you
14:24have
14:24to
14:24sign
14:24a
14:24contract
14:25and
14:25in
14:26the
14:26future
14:26you
14:26have
14:26two
14:26weapons
14:27that
14:27ultimately
14:27do
14:28the
14:28same
14:28job
14:28one
14:29is
14:29European
14:29one
14:29is
14:30made
14:30in
14:30the
14:30US
14:30would
14:31you
14:31say
14:31of
14:32course
14:32we
14:32go
14:32for
14:32the
14:32European
14:33first
14:33we need
14:34a
14:34European
14:35preference
14:35yes
14:36of
14:36course
14:36this
14:36is
14:37part
14:37of
14:38the
14:38European
14:38strategic
14:40autonomy
14:41concept
14:41and
14:42I
14:42fully
14:42agree
14:42that
14:43and
14:43we
14:43have
14:44been
14:44working
14:44for
14:44this
14:45we
14:46need
14:46to
14:46strengthen
14:47the
14:47European
14:48pillar
14:49of
14:49NATO
14:50because
14:50we
14:51need
14:51to
14:51take
14:51care
14:52about
14:52our
14:53defense
14:54capabilities
14:55and
14:56we
14:56need
14:56to
14:56do
14:57it
14:57in
14:57a
14:57smart
14:57way
14:58we
14:59cannot
14:59exclude
15:00the
15:00United
15:00States
15:00because
15:01United
15:01States
15:01is
15:02a
15:02leader
15:03in
15:04defense
15:04technologies
15:05we
15:06need
15:06to
15:06cooperate
15:07but
15:08of
15:08course
15:08we
15:08need
15:08to
15:09protect
15:09our
15:10defense
15:10indices
15:11otherwise
15:11they
15:11will
15:12disappear
15:12and
15:13for
15:13made
15:13in
15:14Europe
15:14is
15:14it
15:15the
15:15right
15:15way
15:16to
15:16put
15:16this
15:16in
15:17writing
15:17do
15:17we
15:18need
15:18those
15:18percentages
15:19do
15:20we need
15:20that
15:20meaning
15:21Europe
15:21by
15:22law
15:22we
15:23need
15:23to
15:23operate
15:23like
15:24this
15:24otherwise
15:24we
15:24continue
15:25our
15:26strategic
15:26dependencies
15:27on
15:27the
15:27US
15:28are
15:28you
15:28in
15:28favor
15:28of
15:29legislating
15:29in
15:29this
15:29way
15:29we
15:30cannot
15:30immediately
15:33guarantee
15:33our
15:34security
15:35by
15:35ourselves
15:36even
15:37talking
15:37about
15:38the
15:38nuclear
15:38shield
15:39we
15:39cannot
15:40go
15:40without
15:40the
15:41United
15:41States
15:41of
15:41America
15:42because
15:42they
15:42provide
15:43the
15:44essence
15:44of
15:45the
15:45core
15:45defense
15:46capabilities
15:47in
15:47NATO
15:47we
15:48should
15:48it
15:48is
15:49absolutely
15:49clear
15:50it
15:51will
15:51take
15:51time
15:52for
15:52us
15:53to
15:54recover
15:54to
15:55renovate
15:56our
15:56industries
15:57our
15:58industrial
15:58base
15:58our
15:59technology
16:00development
16:01should
16:01Ukraine
16:01be a
16:02core
16:02part
16:02of
16:02it
16:02we
16:03heard
16:03from
16:03the
16:04Ukraine
16:04saying
16:04the
16:05Europeans
16:05will
16:05need
16:05us
16:05more
16:06than
16:06at
16:06this
16:06point
16:06we
16:06need
16:07them
16:07on
16:07the
16:07technology
16:07advancement
16:08should
16:08we
16:08get
16:08them
16:09in
16:09this
16:09context
16:09Ukraine
16:10is
16:10has
16:11been
16:11already
16:12a
16:12part
16:12of
16:12this
16:12many
16:14European
16:15defense
16:15industries
16:16have
16:16already
16:17invested
16:18look at
16:18Rheinmetall
16:19look at
16:19other
16:20companies
16:20they have
16:21presence
16:22they have
16:22invested
16:23they have
16:24developed
16:24strong
16:25industrial
16:26sites
16:27and presence
16:27in Ukraine
16:28Ukraine
16:29has been
16:30sharing
16:31latest
16:32state-of-the-art
16:33drone
16:34technologies
16:34they have
16:35developed
16:35through
16:36experimenting
16:37them
16:37every day
16:38on the
16:38front
16:39line
16:39so
16:39as an
16:40equal
16:40partner
16:40anyway
16:41the
16:41Ukrainians
16:41will
16:42say
16:42we
16:42will
16:42be
16:42joining
16:42the
16:43European
16:43Union
16:43so
16:43this
16:44debate
16:44at
16:44some
16:45point
16:46of
16:47course
16:48Western
16:48Balkans
16:50Ukraine
16:51Moldova
16:51all of
16:52them
16:52they have
16:53place
16:54and their
16:54future
16:54is
16:55full
16:55integration
16:56into
16:56the
16:57European
16:57family
16:57this
16:58is
16:58obvious
16:58this
16:59is
16:59of
16:59course
16:59as
17:00a
17:00final
17:00question
17:01when
17:02we
17:02hear
17:02NATO
17:023.0
17:03the
17:04impression
17:04that
17:05I
17:05get
17:05nobody
17:06will
17:06say
17:07publicly
17:07with
17:08these
17:08words
17:08but
17:08ultimately
17:09it
17:09means
17:09that
17:09we
17:10are
17:11going
17:11to
17:11have
17:11to
17:11pay
17:11big
17:12time
17:12in
17:12NATO
17:13we
17:13are
17:13going
17:13to
17:14still
17:14have
17:14to
17:14continue
17:14for
17:15or
17:15pay
17:15for
17:15those
17:16US
17:16weapons
17:16otherwise
17:17there
17:17will
17:17be
17:17a
17:17rediletion
17:18for
17:18the
17:18administration
17:19but
17:19then
17:19we're
17:20going
17:20to
17:20have
17:20to
17:20do
17:20all
17:20the
17:20hard
17:21work
17:21of
17:22the
17:22soldiers
17:23all
17:24the
17:24work
17:24that
17:25means
17:25real
17:26defense
17:26will
17:27be
17:27us
17:27and
17:27ultimately
17:28all
17:28that
17:28will
17:28be
17:28left
17:29is
17:30the
17:30US
17:30nuclear
17:31umbrella
17:31that
17:32will
17:32protect
17:33the
17:33Europeans
17:34and
17:35still
17:35be
17:35there
17:35as
17:35a
17:36last
17:36resort
17:36in
17:36NATO
17:37that
17:37is
17:37essentially
17:38what
17:38NATO
17:383.0
17:39means
17:39for
17:39the
17:39Europeans
17:40is
17:40that
17:40how
17:41you
17:41see
17:41it
17:41too
17:41you
17:42say
17:42you're
17:42not
17:43politically
17:43correct
17:43you're
17:44not
17:44in
17:44the
17:44mainstream
17:44so
17:44I'm
17:45sure
17:45you
17:45can
17:45speak
17:45freely
17:46when
17:47we
17:47speak
17:48about
17:48NATO
17:493.0
17:50and
17:51the
17:51defense
17:51capabilities
17:52of
17:53Europe
17:53we
17:54should
17:54put
17:54on
17:55the
17:55table
17:56economic
17:57part
17:58social
17:59part
17:59we
18:00should
18:00put
18:00tariffs
18:01on
18:01the
18:01table
18:02we
18:02should
18:03put
18:03European
18:04cars
18:05talking
18:05with
18:05our
18:06most
18:06important
18:07strategic
18:07ally
18:08the
18:08United
18:08States
18:08we
18:10should
18:10put
18:10because
18:11when
18:12we
18:12speak
18:13about
18:13defense
18:13capabilities
18:14it
18:14means
18:15technology
18:15and
18:16industrial
18:16development
18:17it
18:18should
18:18not
18:18go
18:19just
18:19for
18:19military
18:19equipment
18:20it
18:20should
18:20go
18:20for
18:21everything
18:21we
18:22cooperate
18:23with
18:23the
18:23United
18:23States
18:24so
18:24tariffs
18:25are
18:26part
18:26of
18:26this
18:27approach
18:27and
18:28Europe
18:28should
18:29put
18:29everything
18:30on
18:31the
18:31table
18:31your
18:32analysis
18:32of
18:32NATO
18:333.0
18:33I
18:33still
18:34didn't
18:34fully
18:34understand
18:35it
18:35because
18:35you
18:35said
18:35we
18:36need
18:36to
18:36put
18:36our
18:37economic
18:37relationship
18:38and
18:38even
18:38tariffs
18:39the
18:39only
18:39tariffs
18:39are
18:40seen
18:40are
18:40the
18:40Americans
18:41and
18:41European
18:41products
18:42so
18:45more
18:46into
18:46NATO
18:46I
18:47am
18:47just
18:47wondering
18:47from
18:48your
18:48military
18:49background
18:49when
18:49you
18:50look
18:50at
18:50this
18:50NATO
18:503.0
18:51and
18:51you
18:51say
18:51this
18:52is
18:52the
18:52plan
18:52for
18:52the
18:52next
18:5315
18:53years
18:53what
18:53does
18:54it
18:54look
18:54like
18:54do
18:55you
18:55have
18:55US
18:55troops
18:55stationed
18:56in
18:56Europe
18:56or
18:56you
18:57won't
18:58I
18:58think
18:58we
18:59need
18:59also
19:01more
19:02effective
19:03diplomacy
19:04speaking
19:04with
19:05the
19:05United
19:05States
19:05so
19:06to
19:06bring
19:07everything
19:07in
19:08one
19:08basket
19:08because
19:09everything
19:10is
19:10strongly
19:11connected
19:12we
19:15from
19:16technology
19:16from
19:17science
19:18from
19:18human
19:19capital
19:19from
19:20industrial
19:21base
19:21and
19:22all
19:24the
19:24products
19:24with
19:25dual
19:25usage
19:26and
19:26they
19:26mix
19:26especially
19:27in
19:27AI
19:28and
19:28we
19:29are
19:29lagging
19:29behind
19:29here
19:30in
19:30Europe
19:30in
19:30AI
19:31we
19:32should
19:32cooperate
19:33more
19:34you
19:35know
19:35strongly
19:36with
19:36the
19:36United
19:37States
19:37about
19:38AI
19:39and
19:40we
19:41should
19:41go
19:41together
19:42as
19:42strategic
19:42allies
19:43and
19:43partners
19:43because
19:44there
19:45are
19:45some
19:46other
19:46movements
19:47around
19:47the
19:47world
19:47in
19:48this
19:48direction
19:48as well
19:49well
19:49Prime Minister
19:50thank you
19:50so much
19:51for your
19:51time
19:51you've
19:52been
19:52very
19:53generous
19:53with
19:53your
19:53time
19:53so
19:54thank
19:54you
19:54very
19:54much
19:54for
19:54joining
19:55us
19:55thanks
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