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00:08Ciao a tutti e benvenuti a The Ring, Euronews' weekly debating show,
00:13broadcasting to you live from the Albert Hall as part of Euronews' Tourism Summit.
00:18I'm Maeve McMahon, thank you so much for joining us
00:21and this very special edition, of course, with our live studio audience.
00:25In this very special episode, we'll be zooming into the topic of tourism across Europe
00:31and asking how it's affecting locals.
00:33We'll be checking if the EU has a role in trying to square that circle of the continent's worrying housing
00:39crisis.
00:40A warm welcome to our guests for this edition.
00:43Regina Doherty, Irish member of the European Parliament,
00:46a member of the European People's Party in the European Parliament
00:50and also a special committee member of the housing crisis in the European Union.
00:55We're also joined by Sergio González, a Portuguese Socialist MEP from Madeira,
01:00a member of the European Parliament's Transport and Crucial Tourism Committee.
01:05So, Regina Doherty and Sergio González, welcome to The Ring.
01:16So, Regina, let's start with you.
01:19Europe wants more tourists, right?
01:20But Europeans also want more homes.
01:23Can we have both?
01:24I think absolutely we can.
01:26I think the volume of tourism that we have seen increased and it's significant over the last number of years
01:32has obviously caused some pinch points, but it isn't the reason we have a housing emergency.
01:37The fact that we're not building enough houses is the reason we have a housing emergency.
01:41And so, when I look at tourism and I look at how reliant some of our countries are on it
01:45and some of the regions within those countries, I think we need to fix the problems that arise specifically from
01:51that
01:51and not then try and actually blame something that is a positive for all of our nations or most of
01:56our nations.
01:57Sergio González, what would be your view there?
01:59According to Regina Doherty, it's not the tourism that's causing the housing problem,
02:03it is the lack of actual infrastructure.
02:05What's your view?
02:05Yes, actually, we've seen it on my island, on my region, as you can understand.
02:11Tourism has a big impact on the island.
02:13It's our largest industry, so to say.
02:17And we haven't built enough houses to meet demands over the past two or three decades.
02:27So, now we really need more houses in the market.
02:31We need an affordable housing plan like the European Commission presented.
02:37And we need to do something to balance tourism with people living in the islands.
02:45But when it comes to actual dwellings itself, according to studies,
02:48there are millions of empty dwellings in cities and rural towns across Europe.
02:52They're just lying empty, Regina Doherty.
02:54So, when I look at this issue, as we have done over the last 20 months in the Housing Committee,
02:58and we've visited a number of countries to reflect on the different reasons why we're experiencing the problem,
03:04but ultimately the outcome for most of us is exactly the same.
03:06We have too few houses and the ones that we have being built are far too expensive.
03:10The housing stock across Europe, of which short-term lets obviously does feature,
03:16is 1.2% of the housing stock.
03:18The vacant stock across Europe is nearly 20%.
03:22And so, that's why I think I get frustrated when I see the Affordable Housing Act's very first legislative proposal
03:28is tinkering around recommendations for Airbnb or short-term lets
03:32that our municipalities, our local governments, our national governments could already have done if they wanted to do so.
03:38But even with this act, when it passes, won't compel anybody to do anything.
03:42So, it's not going to build a single house.
03:44And I'm just frustrated, having worked so long with everybody accepting and acknowledging
03:48we know what the crisis is and how much of an emergency it is,
03:52that this is the first reaction of the Commission.
03:54And, like, it's not to be critical, but I am genuinely frustrated,
03:58particularly when there are issues that are under the control and the regulation
04:03and the directives of the Commission, of the Parliament,
04:05where we could actually amend simplified change
04:08that would have an impactful outcome
04:10as opposed to tinkering around the edges with recommendations.
04:13And that just frustrates me.
04:14And I know I appreciate we're here to talk about tourism today
04:16and, obviously, short-term lets has a positive impact on it
04:20and a negative, necessarily, impact on housing.
04:22Well, it's interesting the topic of housing is dominating
04:25the Transport and Tourism Committee meetings as we speak right now in the European Parliament.
04:29And, of course, it's already one year since Ursula von der Leyen,
04:32the European Commission President, declared this housing emergency
04:35as a social crisis that we're dealing with right here.
04:37Well, I think that we need to look into funding for new houses.
04:43And there is some, well, the signals that the Commission presents
04:50are not on the right direction.
04:51If we need specific measures to implement on specific regions,
04:56we need funding, we need the regions to participate
05:00in defining the priorities, defining the programmes,
05:04implementing those programmes.
05:06So where does that funding come from?
05:07In the Commission proposal for the next MFF, for example,
05:10because we need to discuss budget.
05:12If we're discussing funding, we need to discuss the next multi-annual framework.
05:16So we see a centralised model that takes from regional and local authorities
05:22the ability to do it.
05:24So I think that's the first big change we need to apply in the negotiations over the next months
05:33so that we allow regional authorities, local authorities,
05:37to implement political measures to solve this problem
05:42and to build more houses, to bring more houses into the markets.
05:45We've been blaming short-term rentals,
05:48but short-term rentals have had a positive impact not only on income for some families,
05:53but also in renovating, in rehabilitation of city centres,
05:59many buildings that were obsolete, that were closed,
06:03and now they have an economic use and utility.
06:09So it's not to blame short-term rentals.
06:13It also has a problem in inflation.
06:17The prices of housing have increased because you also have less stock
06:21if you have some of the houses in the short-term rental market.
06:25That's obvious, but that's not the only reason.
06:28We haven't built houses.
06:29We don't have programmes or financing for building new houses.
06:34And people are looking for answers now.
06:36I don't know if you noticed, but just this very week,
06:38as we're here in Albert Hall, in Brussels, discussing this very issue,
06:42thousands of people have been taking to the streets of Madrid.
06:45In fact, many have been camping out overnight,
06:48drawing attention to the fact that the situation in Spain is worsening by day and by night.
06:53They're camping out by the Puerta del Sol.
06:55It seems a little bit similar to the Indignados movement,
06:58that we saw many years ago.
07:00So I think just watching Spain this morning,
07:03and now the decision of the government to actually potentially ban evictions
07:06for a three-year period is a direct response of the inaction that we've seen
07:11by governments arising from something that we all have called a crisis for a number of years.
07:16I don't think there's a single country in Europe
07:18that isn't suffering from not enough houses being built,
07:21and there's a whole load of reasons for that,
07:23but even the ones that are being built for them being far too expensive
07:26for our young people to be able to be afforded.
07:27We know that people who have long-term rentals don't have the same security of tenure
07:31that they do in other countries,
07:33but these are things to be fixed by national parliaments,
07:36and I think maybe some have been more active in doing so,
07:38some less so, as you can see from Spain today,
07:40but none of that is going to be directed from a European Commission.
07:43And as Sergio said, if times were normal,
07:46we would be having a conversation as to how much of the MFF
07:48is going to be aligned for social cohesion,
07:51to build houses, particularly social and affordable houses,
07:54for all of our citizens.
07:55But as we all know, we're having an entirely different conversation
07:57as to how we're going to get a smaller budget
07:59to stretch much farther for things like defence and security,
08:02and housing is going to form part of a smaller budget,
08:05and people can decide what they want to do with themselves.
08:07That's not instructive, and that's not really leadership
08:10and showing guidance, I think.
08:11And when it comes to these short-term rentals,
08:14do we need a proper definition for what they are?
08:17Well, I think the definition exists,
08:19but the thing is, or the issue is,
08:22that it affects different regions, different cities,
08:26in a different way.
08:28Not all regions, not all member states are the same.
08:31Are you in favour of them?
08:32I'm from Madera Island.
08:33Tourism is important.
08:35As I mentioned before,
08:37we're not in the same stage as Spain at the moment,
08:41having public demonstrations against tourism.
08:47But how do your voters feel about the short-term rentals?
08:49If you look at the recent survey,
08:5090% of Madeirians think tourism is positive,
08:55and it's important for the island and for the economy,
08:57but 54% of them consider that we have over-tourism
09:01at the moment at the island.
09:02This is changing.
09:03We're famous for our hospitality,
09:06for promoting the island,
09:09for enjoying having tourists on the island
09:13and welcoming them.
09:16But now there is this feeling
09:17that we already have over-tourism,
09:19and it also has to do with social issues,
09:21with the lack of housing
09:22and the lack of measures to build houses.
09:25And as Regina just mentioned,
09:27we're building new houses,
09:28but the prices are not affordable for locals.
09:32So it's impossible to compete
09:34when we're building houses,
09:35and then we have, for example,
09:37American tourists buying those houses.
09:39Not locals, young people.
09:41There is no social housing.
09:43A few 600 houses have been built
09:46over the last three years,
09:48also with the IRF funding.
09:51Otherwise, we wouldn't have them.
09:52And that's my data.
09:53The situation is very serious as well in Lisbon,
09:55with locals being pushed out there,
09:57you know, with the tax breaks.
09:58It's exactly the same situation.
09:59The municipalities and the mayors
10:01have implemented some measures,
10:03and I think that's something positive
10:05out of the European affordable housing plan
10:08and the act that followed,
10:10that the European Commission understands
10:12that some decisions have to be made
10:14at local and regional level,
10:16because it's their competence,
10:18and they are able to do it.
10:19We need more data.
10:22We need specific data on the problem,
10:25because it's different,
10:27as I mentioned in the beginning,
10:29not all regions are the same,
10:31and this doesn't impact all regions the same way.
10:35And to gather data, a good point,
10:36we've seen Croatia implemented its Tourism Act
10:39in order to be able to measure the impact,
10:41of course, this over-tourism is having
10:42on their environment and sustainability.
10:44Is that something you'd like to see all over the view?
10:47I think, you see, again,
10:48different regions are experiencing different issues,
10:50and so it's really understandable
10:51when I hear Sergio saying
10:52that there's young people in his area
10:54who obviously welcome tourists,
10:56but are frustrated about the fact
10:59that there's houses being rented out
11:00and they don't have the houses
11:02to be able to buy themselves.
11:03If there were houses being built in Madeira,
11:04in Portugal, in excess of what's needed
11:06for the tourism industry,
11:07we wouldn't be having this conversation.
11:08If there was enough houses being built in Ireland,
11:11as there should be more being built,
11:12I probably wouldn't be here having this conversation.
11:14We wouldn't have a housing committee.
11:16But now I've seen you've both got warmed up.
11:17You've got plenty to say.
11:18We'll just take a little break.
11:24As always, we want to give our viewers
11:26a real glimpse, as I said,
11:28inside the hemicycle
11:29and see how you actually point at each other,
11:32ask each other questions,
11:33sometimes upset each other.
11:34That's exactly what you do.
11:36Sergio, would you like to kick off, please,
11:37with your first question for Regina Doherty?
11:39Well, I would ask a question
11:43regarding your political family, PP.
11:46So you've been arguing that you should spend more
11:49on competitiveness, on defense,
11:52while also opposing to new resources
11:56and shifting funding away from social priorities.
12:01You have been a former minister,
12:04and specifically for social protection.
12:07is this something that you envision,
12:10envisaged for the next MFF,
12:13this shift and the different priorities
12:16that we have at this moment
12:17that are harming social priorities
12:20and taking funding away from them?
12:23So it's a very good question.
12:24And you obviously,
12:24even though we've only met today,
12:25you know me so well.
12:27I am a former social affairs minister
12:30in Ireland for five years.
12:31The particular issues,
12:33and particularly the pillar of social rights,
12:35is incredibly important to me.
12:36But these things don't happen by accident.
12:38They happen with money.
12:38They happen with targets.
12:40They happen with ring-fenced money.
12:42And as you're aware,
12:43and I'm sure this happens in other parties too,
12:45I find myself on the opposite side to my party
12:48with a lot of these social issues.
12:50And I really believe
12:51we can actually have competitiveness and investment
12:53by also investing in our young people,
12:56by addressing the poverty gaps,
12:57by making sure that people have a roof over their head,
13:00somewhere to call home.
13:01They're not mutually exclusive.
13:02If we don't look after the young people today
13:04with the youth guarantee of 20 billion,
13:06we're going to have nobody in 20 years' time
13:07to pay the pensions of the people like me
13:09who will be retired in 20 years' time.
13:11And so they're definitely not mutually exclusive.
13:13So I'm not really probably answering the question
13:16except to say I do find myself
13:17not only trying to convince my EPP colleagues
13:20of the merits of supporting the social issues
13:22that I believe in,
13:23but then sometimes find myself voting against them,
13:26which I'm happy to do
13:27because I live with my own conscience
13:28and I really know what the right thing to do is.
13:30And do you lose friends because of it?
13:32Do you know, as you know what politics is like,
13:34sometimes you do,
13:35sometimes it'll last for a few days,
13:36sometimes it might last longer.
13:38But you know what,
13:39doing the right thing,
13:40there's never a wrong time to do the right thing.
13:42So that's just the way I feel about it.
13:43Okay, Regina.
13:44Sergio, you're,
13:45Regina, excuse me, your question now.
13:46My first question.
13:47So because I've spent so much
13:49talking about the housing issue
13:51for the last couple of years,
13:52and I know you're not on the housing committee,
13:53so I'm sorry if I'm putting you on the spot.
13:55I put in 400 amendments to the housing report.
13:57I really felt that we put our heart and soul
14:00into recognising what the top maybe three or four issues,
14:04big ticket issues that the commission could do.
14:06And then the commissioner came out last week
14:08with the housing act
14:09that kind of tinkered around the edges.
14:10How do you think we can better work together
14:13as the centre group of parties
14:15to make sure we actually deliver
14:16a piece of legislation
14:17that's going to make sure it's easier
14:19to build, build, build,
14:21and not do the easy stuff first?
14:24Well, I think we share the frustration
14:27you mentioned being a member
14:28of the special committee on housing.
14:31I'm not on that committee, as you know,
14:33but we discussed it in the TRAN committee
14:35on transport and tourism.
14:37And I totally agree that we need to do more.
14:40And this proposal from the commission
14:42lacks ambition.
14:44So we need specific funding for housing.
14:48We need the decentralised model on the MFF,
14:51as I mentioned,
14:52to allow regions and local authorities
14:54to participate
14:55and to define their own priorities
14:58on several issues,
15:00and social issues, of course,
15:02are one of them.
15:03I think there are some good signs in the act.
15:08For example, reducing complexity,
15:11cutting red tape,
15:13for example, with regards to state aid.
15:16So having the exemption for affordable housing,
15:20I think that's very important.
15:22But then we need,
15:23we cannot discuss this only focusing on tourism,
15:27specifically on short-term rentals
15:29and on building more houses.
15:32For example, in my region, in Malera,
15:34we need to look at the economy as a whole
15:39and the impact that tourism has
15:42and understand that if our main industry is tourism,
15:46tourism isn't known for paying high salaries
15:50compared to other industries.
15:52So we're stuck in a trap.
15:54So we also need to discuss
15:55the diversification of our economy,
15:58creating new jobs,
16:00betting on, for example,
16:01AI, new technologies,
16:03new jobs,
16:05qualified jobs with higher salaries,
16:07so that young people have the right to stay
16:10and we also have a new strategy
16:11on the right to stay
16:13presented by the Vice President Fito.
16:15So we need to look at all these strategies together
16:18in order to solve this.
16:20I think that if we are pro-Europeans,
16:23not only worried about our retirement,
16:26but with the future of the European Union,
16:29we need to stick together
16:31and to present amendments
16:33and to push the Commission
16:35at least for being more ambitious.
16:38But then, like,
16:39we are talking about an emergency,
16:41a crisis.
16:42We all acknowledge,
16:43like in my own country,
16:45we need to be building 50,000 houses a year
16:47just to satisfy demand.
16:48We're only on 38,000, 39,000.
16:50So there still is barriers.
16:52And across the European Union,
16:53we're told we need to build millions of houses.
16:55And again,
16:56we know what the issues are
16:57from a European competency,
16:59what can actually be done
17:00to try and alleviate,
17:02simplify,
17:02put the financing on board.
17:04And you absolutely are right to acknowledge,
17:05and I apologise I didn't do it earlier on,
17:07the changing of the stay date rules
17:08is a game-changer,
17:10particularly for municipalities
17:10to be able to afford
17:11to financially support
17:13social and affordable homes
17:15in our member states.
17:16But there is so much more to be done.
17:19And I think I'm just frustrated
17:20at the pace at which we're doing.
17:23And I'm sure our viewers are too,
17:24especially those eight protesting
17:25this week in Madrid,
17:27sleeping in tents, in fact,
17:28by the Porta del Sol,
17:29so very reminiscent of the days
17:31of the Indignado movement
17:32many, many years ago.
17:34But now we have heard from our MEPs,
17:37and I'd like to bring in another view.
17:42So for our quote of the week
17:44on this edition of The Ring,
17:45I'd like to bring in the voice
17:46of Eduardo Santander.
17:47He is the CEO
17:48of the European Travel Commission.
17:50He was speaking here live,
17:51and he had some very profound words.
17:54He said climate change
17:55is the biggest threat to tourism.
17:57Right now, by far, he said,
17:59we see that trains cannot run sometimes
18:01because the rails are expanded
18:03because of the heat.
18:04And we saw this on the cruise lines
18:06because of the European rivers.
18:07They couldn't run
18:08because it was too dry.
18:09This is a topic
18:10that we have not touched on yet
18:11in this debate.
18:12This is a huge issue for you.
18:14It is.
18:16I have to give you
18:17a concrete example.
18:19I'm from an island.
18:21We have one airport.
18:22The second airport
18:24is on a second island
18:25on a two and a half hour distance
18:28by ferry.
18:29And we have lots of constraints
18:33at the airport
18:33due to the high winds
18:35that we get
18:36due to the global warming
18:38and climate change.
18:39And that is something
18:40that we need to find alternatives.
18:42I also believe that
18:46and going slightly
18:49into a different subject,
18:50we have a strategy
18:52for the outermost regions
18:53which I will also be
18:54the rapporteur for the parliament.
18:57And I think that we can
18:59take advantage of these regions
19:01as laboratories
19:03to test new technologies,
19:05to test new solutions
19:06that then we can export
19:08to the other member states.
19:10And it's something
19:12that we need to address.
19:13And just one example
19:14I didn't mention before
19:15with regards to housing,
19:17also having the
19:18one-size-fits-all perspective
19:22from the commission
19:23will not work
19:24because when we're building
19:26new houses in Madeira,
19:27we have regulation
19:28that obliges construction companies
19:32to build houses
19:33as if they were building them
19:34in northern Sweden.
19:36So it doesn't work for us.
19:37The climate is different.
19:39there is climate change,
19:40there is global warming,
19:41but still Europe is very diverse.
19:43So it's an issue
19:45and we need to address
19:46but also with the local perspective
19:48and respecting the principle
19:50of subsidiarity.
19:51But now we just take
19:52a little break.
20:01Another island witnessing
20:02global warming
20:03is Ireland, of course.
20:04We're seeing temperatures
20:05and beaches flooded.
20:06Almost looks like Portugal now,
20:08the beaches of Ireland.
20:09But the country
20:09is clearly ready.
20:11I'm somebody that's old enough
20:12that when I was
20:13in my 20s and 30s,
20:15you went to Portugal,
20:16Greece, Spain
20:17on your holidays.
20:18That's where you went
20:19because it rains
20:20all of the time in Ireland, right?
20:21And so the only place
20:22you're getting a bit of freckles
20:23is going away.
20:25Not anymore.
20:25This year we had
20:26an amazing summer
20:27but it was
20:28what we would expect
20:29a normal summer
20:30to be in Portugal.
20:32And I went to Athens
20:33for five days
20:34with my husband
20:35to see the Acropolis
20:36and it was 38 degrees
20:37every day
20:38which rendered
20:39the holiday
20:40nearly impossible.
20:42So if you didn't
20:42stay beside the sea
20:43to jump in and out
20:44every 10 or 15 minutes
20:45you just weren't coping.
20:46That's a far greater threat
20:48to our tourism industry
20:50on the entire continent
20:51of Europe
20:51than Airbnb
20:52or short-term lets
20:53will ever be.
20:54And yet now
20:55we're only going to start
20:56having that conversation
20:57and maybe it's
20:57the reality of the summer.
20:58It's no longer a priority.
20:59It's no longer
20:59a political priority
21:00despite the fact
21:01that it's now September
21:02and it's 30 degrees
21:03in Brussels this week.
21:04I know.
21:04So when I see us
21:07talking about
21:081.2%
21:09of the entire
21:10housing stock
21:11is a problem
21:12when we actually
21:13should be really
21:13talking and concentrating
21:14on the real issues
21:15because I mean
21:16Ireland as a nation
21:17is an island native.
21:18We didn't have tourism.
21:19One of our pillars
21:20of our economy
21:21would literally
21:22fall flat.
21:23You're the same.
21:24The real threat
21:25to that
21:26and actually
21:26maybe it's
21:27of Ireland's benefit
21:28and when you can't
21:28go to Portugal
21:29on your holidays anymore
21:29you'll be able
21:30to come to Ireland
21:31because it will only
21:32be in the 20 degrees
21:33but it's an enormous
21:34problem that we have
21:35to address
21:35and I don't think
21:36we've actually
21:36even started
21:37having that conversation.
21:38And of course
21:38the trends
21:39are changing indeed
21:40when it comes
21:40to travel preferences.
21:41You can read more
21:42about them
21:42on yournews.com
21:43but now it is time
21:44to move on
21:45to our next round.
21:50So as always
21:50here on The Ring
21:52we like to find out
21:52what's keeping
21:53Europeans up at night.
21:55Regular citizens
21:55back home
21:56on their sofas.
21:57Well,
21:58according to the latest
21:59Eurobarometer
22:00lack of affordable housing
22:01right up there
22:02we're on top
22:0251%
22:04after that
22:04unemployment
22:05and lack
22:06of job opportunities
22:07underneath
22:08lack of quality
22:09public services
22:10followed by poverty
22:11or homelessness
22:12now this
22:13barometer comes
22:14of course
22:14just on the cusp
22:16of 2027
22:17when we're ready
22:17for big elections
22:18taking place
22:19in France
22:19Italy
22:20Poland
22:21and Spain
22:22your reaction?
22:24Well,
22:25I think
22:26it's an example
22:27of some
22:30lack of alignment
22:31between
22:32the European priorities
22:33and our discussions
22:34and what Europeans feel
22:35Because no security
22:35and defense
22:36written there
22:36No security and defense
22:37that's what I was
22:38going to mention
22:38so we're cutting
22:41budgets
22:42we're cutting funding
22:43for social priorities
22:45for social issues
22:46we're betting
22:47on defense
22:48on security
22:49we're centralizing
22:50the cohesion policy
22:51which is our
22:52largest investment policy
22:54in the European Union
22:55and I'm a strong
22:57believer
22:58that
22:59the
23:00biggest
23:01or the best
23:02investment
23:02we can make
23:03in defense
23:03is cohesion policy
23:05it's not defense
23:06and security
23:07it's not
23:08a budget
23:09for
23:09a military
23:11Would you agree
23:11with that?
23:12Do you know
23:12I don't know
23:13and it's funny
23:13I say this to you
23:14coming from Ireland
23:15where we're
23:15the furthest
23:16little island
23:17and don't
23:18you know
23:18for me
23:18Russia is
23:19hundreds of thousands
23:20of miles away
23:20but when you talk
23:22to colleagues
23:23from the European
23:23bloc countries
23:25there's a real fear
23:26and I can appreciate
23:27and understand
23:28why security
23:29is incredibly
23:29important for them
23:30and it rarely
23:31comes up
23:31in conversations
23:32at home
23:32albeit that
23:33that is changing
23:34because of our
23:35infrastructure
23:35and our lack
23:36of ability
23:36to be able
23:37to look after
23:37our maritime
23:38or you know
23:39our IT
23:39infrastructure
23:41but if you
23:41go back
23:42to the poll
23:42like number one
23:44number two
23:44and number four
23:45in that poll
23:45could be addressed
23:46if we built
23:47more houses
23:47and we built
23:48them faster
23:48and so we'd
23:49address the
23:50cost of living
23:50and giving
23:51people a roof
23:52over their head
23:52we'd address
23:53the homelessness
23:53issue
23:54by building
23:54more houses
23:55we'd address
23:56the employment
23:56issue
23:56by giving
23:57millions of
23:57people jobs
23:58building houses
23:59with quality
24:00jobs of
24:00quantity
24:01surveyors
24:01architects
24:02engineers
24:02because people
24:04are leaving
24:04young people
24:05are leaving
24:06and actually
24:06they're leaving
24:07to go to
24:08Australia
24:08New Zealand
24:09and build
24:09the homes
24:09over there
24:10so we need
24:11to make sure
24:11that we address
24:12these issues
24:12to look after
24:13our own citizens
24:14similar situation
24:15in Portugal
24:16yes
24:16and just
24:18just to be clear
24:18this doesn't mean
24:20that I don't think
24:20defense and security
24:22should be a priority
24:23we are in the
24:25opposite side
24:26of Europe
24:27of the European Union
24:28but we have
24:28borders with
24:29the United States
24:30maritime borders
24:31Madeira and Azores
24:32we have the
24:33submarine cables
24:34in our territory
24:35that we need
24:36to defend
24:36and protect
24:37we have the
24:38shadow
24:39the Russian
24:39shadow fleet
24:40in Portuguese
24:41waters
24:42every day
24:43so we have also
24:44challenges
24:45and defense
24:47issues
24:47to address
24:48what I mean
24:50by having
24:52the cohesion
24:53policy
24:53as our
24:54strongest
24:55or best
24:55investment
24:56for defense
24:56is that
24:57we are
24:58completely doomed
24:59when the
25:00Portuguese feel
25:01that they don't
25:02need to be
25:03solidary
25:03with the
25:05Polish
25:05or when
25:06the Spanish
25:07feel that
25:07it's a Romanian
25:08problem
25:09it's not a
25:09Spanish problem
25:10that's why
25:10we need
25:11to stick
25:11together
25:12and to have
25:13the cohesion
25:14policy
25:15still
25:15as our
25:16main
25:17policy
25:17because
25:17it addresses
25:19the housing
25:19issues
25:20but also
25:21many of the
25:22other issues
25:22that we are
25:23discussing here
25:23okay and that's
25:24the big discussion
25:25in Brussels
25:25the battle
25:26over the
25:26budget
25:28that we're
25:28following very
25:29closely
25:29on Euronews
25:30well now it is
25:31time for our
25:32fifth and
25:33final round
25:33and as always
25:38here we do
25:38something a little
25:39bit different
25:39we ask you
25:40questions and
25:41you're allowed
25:41answer with
25:42yes or no
25:43is that feasible
25:44for politicians
25:45no
25:46impossible
25:48indeed well
25:49let's let's
25:49give it a shot
25:49does Europe
25:50have a problem
25:51with over
25:52tourism
25:52Regina yes
25:53or no
25:53no
25:54no
25:54is mass
25:56tourism
25:57sustainable
25:57yes or no
25:58no
25:59if we fix
26:01the problems
26:01yes
26:02should tourists
26:03pay more
26:04taxes
26:05yes or no
26:05the EU doesn't
26:07have a competency
26:07on taxes
26:08that's a
26:08responsibility
26:09of local
26:09and member
26:10states to make
26:11up for their
26:11own mind
26:11so no
26:12no
26:12should tourists
26:14pay more
26:14taxes
26:14tourists who
26:15come to
26:15Madeira
26:16no depends
26:16on regions
26:18should portals
26:19like Airbnb
26:19face tougher
26:21rules
26:21yes or no
26:22yes
26:23yes
26:24should local
26:25communities have
26:26the right to
26:26ban cruise
26:27ships yes or
26:28no
26:29again yes
26:30depending on
26:31regions
26:32it's up to
26:32them yes
26:33see everything
26:34needs a little
26:34bit more context
26:35should the EU
26:36have a direct
26:36role in
26:37fixing national
26:38housing crisis
26:39yes or no
26:41no
26:41I say that
26:42they should
26:43allow them to
26:44have the
26:45tools
26:46but it's
26:47their decision
26:49I think they
26:49should fix the
26:50things they're
26:50responsible for
26:51which is a
26:52great start
26:53with simplification
26:54the financing
26:54the state aid
26:55rules
26:55things that we
26:56actually have
26:56control over
26:57from a
26:57European competency
26:58perspective
26:58not fiddle around
27:00with stuff that
27:00local governments
27:01can do themselves
27:01and will the
27:02EU affordable
27:03housing act
27:04will actually
27:04lower rents
27:05for young
27:05people
27:05yes or no
27:07I don't think
27:08what we have
27:08so far is going
27:09to build a
27:09single house
27:10so therefore
27:11no
27:11it won't
27:12Sergio yes or
27:13no
27:13as it is now
27:14no
27:15and are you
27:15optimistic that
27:16the housing
27:17problem in Europe
27:17can be fixed
27:18one day
27:18yes or no
27:19yes
27:21hell yes
27:22Gonzales and
27:23Regina Doherty
27:23thank you so
27:24much you have
27:24been our guest
27:25this week on
27:26The Ring
27:26thank you so
27:26much to our
27:27audience
27:27thank you so
27:28much as well
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