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00:00The message is very simple. It says, six words, turn on, tune in, drop out.
00:20Turn on, tune in, drop out. For this crowd of hip young Americans, these six words are shorthand
00:25for an electrifying experience most of them know well, an experience called the trip. The trip is
00:31a drug-induced mental explosion that has changed their whole way of looking at the world. But for
00:35many other Americans, the six words stand for something else, controversy, crime and terror.
00:40Turning on, tuning in and dropping out is what happens to you when you take a dose of the strange
00:45new drug called LSD. LSD has become a way of life with its own philosophers like poet Allen
00:57Ginsberg.
00:58Yes, there's probably in the United States millions who would love to come out to a park
01:02like today and play with the children and sing together and have a peaceful time, promote
01:08this peace to others outside who don't feel so peaceful in the heart to say there is possibility
01:13of something to believe in, something to save from the fire. It's strange to be in a body.
01:22Uh, can I sleep with you? Shall we sing together? But above all, like I don't want to feel bad
01:30or I don't want to, I don't want to have to fight them or I don't want to fight myself
01:35all
01:35the time. I wouldn't want to have to fight the camera to see the camera as an enemy for instance
01:40or communications as an enemy. What about the people looking at this? What do they think?
01:44Do they want to be enemy or do they want to be friendly or do they even think of these
01:47terms? Or is it my paranoia?
01:49Yeah. So, are there people in jail really? Are there wars on earth? Still? Vietnam, like
01:56everybody losing control of their temper? Does anybody else want to create a hell? Perpetuate a hell?
02:04We might as well get out of our minds, which means going, it does mean some LSD there as a
02:09useful
02:09social catalyst, as a useful personal catalyst, as something that does approximate a natural religious
02:15experience. LSD has a way to divine senses. A million and a half Americans are believed to
02:22be regular users of LSD. Many others still uninitiated admire its heroes and talk its language.
02:29They go on pretend trips like this with trick spectacles from shops that cater to the hip
02:33trade. LSD stands for dextrolycergic acid diethylamide, a chemical derived from a fungus that
02:39grows on rye. It is not addictive like heroin or cocaine, but it's far more powerful in its
02:44effects. Taken in a pill or sugar cube, it acts in an hour and lasts up to 24. During this
02:50time,
02:51the user soars into another world where the consciousness is vastly expanded, or seems to be.
02:56This is the famous psychedelic experience.
03:00Dr. Timothy Leary, America's high priest of LSD and its passionate public defender, calls it turning
03:06on the mind, tuning into the infinite, and dropping out of the here and now. But there's another
03:11controversial side of LSD. Not all trips are happy ones. Some are upsetting and even terrifying. Some
03:18experts doubt that the drug expands the mind at all. One skeptic is the University of California's
03:26Dr. Thomas Ungerleider. You know, we live, especially in this country, we live in a drug
03:30culture. Fantastic drug abuse. Everybody wants to alter their mind in some way with a tranquilizer,
03:36a barbiturate and amphetamine, with marijuana, and of course now with LSD, which I think is by
03:42far the most dangerous drug. LSD certainly provides an intense interpersonal, non-interpersonal,
03:49intra-psychic experience, an intense intra-psychic kind of an experience. But I would not call it a
03:55consciousness-expanding drug, rather a consciousness-decreasing drug. If you were on LSD
04:00now, you could pay very little conscious attention to what I was saying to you. You would be so
04:05wrapped up in what was going on inside you. We've seen people take LSD and stare at their finger
04:10for hours, or a leaf, seeing things that of course others of us do not see, and unable really to
04:16pay any
04:17conscious attention. So in that sense, LSD, I suppose you might say, is a consciousness-decreasing
04:22unconsciousness-expanding drug.
04:24Well, the experience that you have when you take LSD is similar to the experience which has been
04:30described by the great mystics and philosophers of the past. There's a sense of being in communion
04:39with powers greater than yourself, and intelligence which far outstrips the human mind, and energies
04:45which are very ancient. You have a sense of being brought into God's workshop, or that the veil is
04:52pulled away, and for the first time you see how things really are. Of course, God's workshop is very
04:58different from what we expect. People don't talk English. Most of the forms are molecular and cellular,
05:05they're quite strange and eerie. It's very hard to be prepared for this experience specifically, except the
05:16attitude of trust, or thy will be done, in dealing with mysteries and powers which dwarf your expectations.
05:23Certainly the claims for increased creativity and increased functioning for extrasensory perception are grossly exaggerated,
05:31if not completely false. We've had so many examples. We were having dinner with an engineer, a mathematical engineer,
05:38who told us that he could solve any problem since he'd begun to take and become a regular LSD user.
05:43We asked him about his work, and he said, well, of course, I'm not working. I've been fired.
05:46Nobody will hire me. He'd been out of work for many months. A band leader brought a drummer in,
05:51a rock and roll drummer. And he said that there was all kinds of trouble with the band. The drummer
05:56couldn't play.
05:57People couldn't dance to it. The band was going to have to be dispersed if something couldn't be done.
06:01And of course, the drummer was on LSD. We talked to the drummer. What did he say? He said, I'm
06:05playing like Gene Krupa.
06:06I'm the greatest.
06:08One effect of the controversy is that more and more Americans are hearing about LSD and trying it.
06:13Some, like Karen Hodge of Colorado, disagree with Dr Ungerleider's pessimistic view. Karen is 27, a college-educated housewife with
06:21three children.
06:22She first had LSD four months ago and has taken a trip every two weeks since.
06:30Well, it means a great many things. It's not just one thing. For one thing, each time you take it,
06:36the experience is totally different.
06:38Sometimes it is very introspective. It goes back to my childhood and various events that happened then, which I've totally
06:48forgotten about now,
06:49but being an adult, I can see in a different way.
06:53Sometimes it is just the opposite. It's very social. You see other people in a different light, or yourself in
06:58relationship to other people in a different light.
07:02In general, I'd say that, get your pajamas, they're right here. Hurry up, Ripley.
07:08That every aspect of life has more meaning, greater depth, greater variety than it did previous to taking LSD.
07:20Her husband, Jerry, has also taken LSD.
07:23It was a great deal of accepting myself and accepting other people and getting along with little kids like this.
07:28My own growing up was rough sometimes, and I had a lot of things I had to learn to accept
07:33about myself before I could learn to accept the kids.
07:36And I was projecting a lot of things that I was disgruntled about onto the kids.
07:42LSD hasn't been the only reason, but it's certainly been a great help, innit?
07:45A lot of times I feel that an experience with LSD is sometimes worth as much as a year in
07:51just learning how to accept kids and how to accept people.
07:55Yes, my youngest took it accidentally once.
07:59He got a hold of three caps, which is equivalent to six adult doses.
08:05He remained rigid for, oh, about an hour or so, at which point he got off the couch he'd been
08:12sitting on and he started to giggle.
08:15And he giggled and giggled and he started talking.
08:20It was obvious that he was seeing a whole world of color, of animals, of form, of...
08:27And he was able to verbalize it to a surprising degree.
08:30He's normally relatively quiet insofar as he doesn't talk a great deal.
08:35And he was just jabbering away.
08:39This is what a dose of LSD looks like.
08:41A little powder in an ordinary capsule.
08:44Colorless, odorless, tasteless.
08:46You mix it with fruit juice and drink it.
08:49Karen and Jerry are at the house of friends, ready to turn on for one of their fortnightly trips.
08:54They've hired a babysitter to mind their children for the next 24 hours.
08:57The mood is restrained excitement, like the feeling at the start of a journey.
09:02Karen's friends have had a lot of trouble this time finding enough LSD.
09:05A new national law against its manufacture or sale has shrunk the supply and driven the price up.
09:11What they're trying tonight comes from a new source, Czechoslovakia.
09:14But it's real LSD. It'll be an authentic trip.
09:182,000 miles away in New York, Leary's fellow missionary, Dr. Richard Alpert, describes what it will be like.
09:24I still find it very, very difficult to describe exactly what the experience is like.
09:29For the first year or two, we used to call it ineffable, just indescribable.
09:33And now we've reached for metaphors and ways to describe what the experience is about.
09:38The best image I can suggest for you to understand is if you grew up in a very small village
09:45and had lived in that little village in a valley all of your life.
09:48And then when you got to be a certain age, somebody took you by the hand and led you to
09:52the top of a nearby hill.
09:54And now you looked down and you saw your whole life, as it were, as you were living it down
09:58in the village from this new vantage point.
10:01And then you looked out and you saw there was a village and there was another village and there yet
10:05another village.
10:06And all of these villages had their lives going on.
10:08Then you came back into the village again and went back to your life.
10:12But with the consciousness of the experience you just had, how would it change your life?
10:16You see, it's a very subtle matter because how does a new perceptual look at your own life change it?
10:37And I'm so happy, it's a very subtle matter.
11:11Let's see how it is to get an apple.
11:34You've got to override the very strong habits or associations that your mind has learned
11:40from its childhood on.
11:42Well, that's really the key or the essence of the psychedelic experience from what I can
11:47see because it changes the chemistry of your brain, specifically the connections in your
11:52brain called the synapses, in such a way that if this is the input fiber and it always fired
11:59this particular fiber out here, so this is the association.
12:02You've got to understand that in this little junction box, this comes in and there are
12:0620,000 possible things that can happen from this one, but you've learned it so that one
12:12happens, so that every time you say green, grass, black, white, so on, war, peace, love, hate.
12:22Now you've got a whole model, a whole cultural model that's this association.
12:25Now you change the chemistry of this little synapse so that when this happens, instead
12:30of just this firing, this fires too, this fires, this fires, and all 20,000 of them fire.
12:35Now that's quite an extraordinary experience because anything you look at, you not only
12:39see it in the way you've always seen it, I mean, you don't really process that perception
12:44the way you've always done it, but you also have, yes, and that, and that, and that, and
12:48that, and that, and that, and that.
13:00Okay.
13:05It seems so absurd to describe this, and I'll try.
13:14I was telling you, the space is different because it's real.
13:24Well, it's like stuff, it's not like emptiness, it's like stuff, and the space is filled with
13:34all kinds of shapes, and anything like Lois there.
13:42She's made up of all kinds of shapes, and I'm just trying to give you a picture of her.
13:52It's all in rainbow colors.
13:59And I can't talk about it because, oh, this is really nice.
14:12It's absurd to talk about this stupid thing, but this is really nice.
14:31Yeah.
14:37Oh, no, of course.
14:43Not all trips are like Karen's.
14:45Some end here at the Neuropsychiatric Institute at the
14:47University of California.
14:49At times, half of Dr. Ungerleider's patients are recovering from bad trips.
14:53I think you can see the psychedelic art and psychedelic references there on the wall.
14:57It's a tremendous problem, not only in Los Angeles, but in all of California, and it's
15:01starting to go across the country.
15:02And a number of different kinds of things happen to the people who take LSD who have bad experiences.
15:08The acute side effects, most commonly, are hallucinations, meaning auditory and visual.
15:14They hear things, they see things that aren't there and that are terrifying.
15:17They come in also with anxiety to the point of panic.
15:20They come in with depression, with suicide thoughts, some severe suicide attempts.
15:26Obviously, the successful suicides do not come here.
15:28They go to the morgue instead.
15:29Of course, these have been reported in increasing numbers.
15:32And they also come in with confusion, people wandering about not knowing where they are.
15:36Those are the acute kinds of effects.
15:38We try to restrain the person and prevent them from harming themselves or others.
15:42That's the first area of treatment.
15:44And the second has to do with administering a tranquilizer like Thorazine.
15:48Thorazine helps for many people, not all by any means.
15:51But for many, it reverses the side effects, the acute side effects of LSD.
15:55You see, there's no way to predict who's going to have a bad experience.
15:58Not psychological testing.
15:59Not psychiatric interviews.
16:01Not a history of stability on a job.
16:05Not a lack of symptoms.
16:06Not a person who is by any indices that we have to measure well-adjusted.
16:11None of these ways can we predict who will have a bad experience.
16:14And the bad experience may vary.
16:16It may occur the first time you take the LSD or the hundredth time.
16:20So, I think we're trying to educate people that they can take it if they want.
16:23We can't prevent them.
16:25But they're really fooling with dynamite.
16:26This is not like swallowing goldfish or the hula hoop or crowding people into a telephone booth.
16:31This is really like Russian roulette.
16:54The LSD
17:10Rhonda was hospitalized about a year and a half ago after taking some LSD.
17:15She noticed various changes in herself.
17:18She became very panicky, had trouble controlling her thoughts and her feelings.
17:22She was in the hospital for a little over two and a half months.
17:26I was hallucinating on everything.
17:28The walls were on a slant, and it was hard to sit and talk to anyone because everything, nothing was
17:35real.
17:36Nothing was real.
17:38People weren't real, and nothing mattered because nothing was real.
17:41And it was real frightening.
17:43I cried a lot, an awful lot.
17:45Do you recall how long that you remained in this kind of state?
17:49At least six or seven months.
17:53Now, when you left the hospital, what were some of the things you noticed about yourself when you left?
18:02I didn't care for society.
18:03I still don't.
18:05I don't care to be a part of them.
18:09I'm sure they're doing the best they can with what they have, but I don't know what I'm looking for,
18:13but it's not there.
18:16You say that you don't feel that you're part of society.
18:18This feeling of being a part, is this something that you started noticing after you used the drug?
18:23More so afterwards.
18:26Have you noticed any of your friends or people who continue to use LSD?
18:30I know that you haven't used it since you left the hospital, but have any of your friends had these
18:35kind of changes in themselves?
18:37I've seen people, one friend of mine thought he was an orange for a long time.
18:42I haven't seen him since he thought he was an orange, in fact.
18:44What did he do?
18:45He just wouldn't let anyone touch him because he was afraid he was going to turn to orange juice,
18:49which, you know, sounds kind of funny, but when someone really believes that they're an orange, it's kind of scary.
18:55And other people have just, they've given up sex completely.
18:58You know, you're aware of the fact that we've had a lot of patients come in here that have had
19:01reactions even more severe than yours.
19:03Some have tried to hurt themselves after taking LSD,
19:06and yet we're both aware of the fact that many people in the community, especially people your age, continue to
19:11use it.
19:12Do you have any ideas as to why they're using it?
19:15It takes, I think people are really, they're not satisfied with what they have,
19:19and LSD gives you someplace else to go.
19:21It's like another land to live in.
19:23You're here, but you're not really here.
19:26You're somewhere else.
19:28And a lot of times it's easier to live in this land, unless you overdose or unless it gets real
19:33scary.
19:35You mean some of them find it difficult to deal with the way things are?
19:39The way things are, so they just, they go into some other place.
19:42It's another place.
19:44And after Rhonda's treatment is over, what then?
19:48Back with her old associates, the young hippies of California's drug culture,
19:52she may be tempted to take LSD again.
19:55A high percentage of patients at the Institute are repeaters.
19:59Ungerleider's long-term solution to the problem would be to deny them access to the drugs with stiffer laws.
20:05Ranged against him, however, is another view that says bad trips are not necessary.
20:09The key is not whether, but how you do it.
20:11Dr. Alpert.
20:12It is true that many young people who are experimenting with psychedelics
20:19have experiences that scare them, that bring them very close to panic.
20:23And from a long point of view, it's a question of whether or not that panic isn't something we all
20:28go through,
20:29but that if you're in a really good setting or in a safe place, it's okay to go through it,
20:34while if you're in a place where the environment doesn't give you any support,
20:38you get too scared, if you will, to go on with the experience without having to try to stop it.
20:43There's a moment of panic of, I'm going to cease to be if my whole structure falls apart,
20:47because that's the way I know myself and know you and know what to do next
20:51and know how the universe is going to be.
20:53And that movement from absolute to relative reality scares everybody.
20:56There are ways of ensuring the experience being one that you feel safe enough to go on with,
21:05and we were researching this for quite a while and got to the point where at least 96% to
21:107%
21:10of all of the experiences we were associated with were profoundly positive experiences.
21:17Another scientist who believes people can take LSD safely is Dr. Stanley Krippner,
21:22director of sleep and dream research at Maimonides Medical Center in New York.
21:26He's taken it several times himself.
21:29I don't think LSD should be taken every week.
21:32I don't think it should be taken every month.
21:33I think maybe once a year is sufficient, once or twice a year.
21:37I do think that there should be research clinics all around the country where people who want the LSD experience
21:44can go into a clinic,
21:45take it from somebody who is well trained in the administration, with a physician on hand,
21:51with somebody well grounded in philosophy and religion on hand, to bring them through the experience safely and to help
21:58them make the most of the experience.
22:00And research centers of this nature certainly could be provided.
22:05And I think this is what I would recommend in terms of a future integration of the LSD experience, the
22:11psychedelic experience, into American culture.
22:14LSD could be integrated into the general fabric of American society, but we will need additional research to indicate how
22:21best this should be done.
22:23We want to have research to indicate how it affects the educational process, whether or not it should be used
22:29in schools, universities, and colleges.
22:31We will need research to indicate what types of mental illness it's most effective for.
22:37We will need research to indicate how it can be best used in creativity.
22:41We're going to have a lot of Americans in the years to come with leisure time on their hands.
22:47And LSD might open the door to a number of creative experiences for them.
22:54Many artists are already indebted to mind drugs for inspiration.
22:58A year and a half ago, Isaac Abrams was a writer.
23:01His first psychedelic experience turned him into a painter.
23:05Well, people who have had the psychedelics or have a psychedelic experience quite immediately recognize what I'm up to when
23:13they see my painting.
23:15They say, oh.
23:17They say, oh, I see, you're a psychedelic painter, you know, which is one way of putting it.
23:22I was always a person who had some natural curiosity about things.
23:25And when I had the opportunity to, as a person said, to see beautiful hallucinations and to see thousands of
23:31colors I'd never seen them before, I said, well, that sounds like a nice thing to do.
23:36And I took some psilocybin, which is a compound related to LSD.
23:42And it was, of course, quite a shock because I wasn't expecting anything like what happened to me, you know,
23:49which was a sudden revelation of this incredible content that one has within the brain or mind.
23:57And which defies, I mean, normal experience seems to be that you get very little comes through.
24:06Psychedelic experience makes you who you are only more so, about 10,000 times more so.
24:11So you're suddenly confronted with a great big heaping spoonful of yourself.
24:55Psychedelic experience makes you who you are only more so, about 10,000 times more so, about 10,000 times
24:57more so.
24:57The site, claimed for LSD, is religious.
24:59It's moved Leary to found a new church on the drug with its center on an estate in Millbrook, New
25:04York.
25:04He encourages visitors like Maria Alvarez from France.
25:08Her guide is Nicholas Doyle, a friend of Leary's.
25:11She's never taken LSD but wants to know about it and about Leary's religion.
25:15My first impression of it was a sort of LSD somehow.
25:19But there's a lot more happening here.
25:21This is the house right here.
25:24The mansion is where Leary and his 55 followers live and work as members of his League for Spiritual Discovery.
25:30Rented from a rich and sympathetic friend,
25:32it's fancifully painted with the pervading symbol of Leary's new religion, the face of Buddha.
25:40Who's a good doggie?
25:42Have you been well since I've been away?
25:44Been chasing the goats?
25:50The dog once belonged to Nicholas, but he's given it to the house.
25:54Millbrook abounds with animals.
25:56Besides the dog, there are 16 cats, a black sheep and a small herd of goats that live on the
26:01porch.
26:02Members like to have them around because they believe that animals are by nature turned on all the time.
26:07Leary believes that children are as well, and so there are nine living in the house.
26:12Millbrook's members must give up all their worldly ties and work full-time for the League.
26:16Leary, however, is constantly on the road lecturing to make money to keep Millbrook going.
26:21The house costs $50,000 a year to run.
26:25Recently, members were made aware of the world outside by a police raid on the mansion.
26:29The police, of course, were out to catch them in possession of illegal drugs.
26:33As a precaution in case of more raids, they now make all guests sign a pledge stating they haven't brought
26:38drugs to Millbrook.
26:49This is the rule of the house because of all of the raids which have taken place here, which is
26:56all as two, isn't it, Bert?
26:58No, there's one.
26:59There was a raid, and this means that if there's another raid, that signing the book, if you have any
27:08illegal drugs on your person,
27:10then you would be held responsible, not everyone in the whole house being responsible for one guest.
27:16It's very democratic.
27:18Well, it is.
27:20This would be all.
27:20Protect yourself.
27:31Nicholas takes Maria to see one of the Buddhist shrines in the house.
27:35Leary has borrowed from many Eastern religions in thinking through his own, particularly Hinduism.
27:40But Buddha is especially important to his followers because of the link between Buddha's search for enlightenment and their own
27:45search for it through LSD.
27:47For Buddha, enlightenment meant detachment from ambition and the needs of the flesh, a state of loving serenity.
27:53At Millbrook, detachment is also the goal.
27:55But members hope LSD will help them to bypass the 20 years of meditation and fasting it took Buddha to
28:01achieve it.
28:05Respecting an ancient tradition, Maria and Nicholas take off their shoes at the door of the shrine.
28:17The idea of this whole sanctuary, which it is, this one room, is where people can be with themselves, by
28:30themselves, and meditate.
28:33And this is the whole idea of this room.
28:36Are there special times or any moment somebody has an inclination for being by themselves, or is it like religious
28:44ceremonies?
28:47You can't really regulate prayer.
28:54Another member of the house has explained it this way.
28:57Buddha is within us, within everyone.
29:00The task is to find him each in our own way.
29:02But above all, we must want to find him, want it more than anything, more sometimes than food or sleep.
29:08That is why we come to Millbrook.
29:12If you take LSD, you're bound to have this experience.
29:17That's the terrible thing about LSD, it works.
29:19It's a sacrament that is almost foolproof.
29:22The problem is that most people aren't prepared to face God.
29:24And no matter how religious you think you are, if someone says, come on, would you really like to look
29:29right in the eye of God and see where man is and where history is and how trivial and ridiculous
29:34and small human nature is?
29:37Most people don't want to face this.
29:39Who is ready to face God?
29:41Usually it's not the policeman or the senator or the king or the professor.
29:46The person who's ready to face God might be a man of the gutter who's ready.
29:50I've had enough.
29:51It's very hard to predict who should have this experience.
29:54That's why we must be very careful not to pass laws saying A can have it and B can't, because
29:59that's religious discrimination.
30:00It's really your own choice.
30:02Are you ready to go out of your mind and face something stronger than yourself?
30:06Preparation, though, and guidance is what the sensible person will ask for before he does that.
30:12This is a tranquil, happy moment for Leary, a rare moment now in his hectic life.
30:18Ahead lies a difficult future for his movement.
30:20LSD is becoming a synonym for evil and the dose-sugar cube a symbol of degeneracy.
30:25Newspapers have sensationalised reports of insanity, suicide and even homicide, all supposedly caused by LSD.
30:33The outcry has resulted in harsh new laws which are making LSD scarce and expensive.
30:38The result of that is a brisk new business for the underworld.
30:41And the result of that is a busy new Federal Bureau of Drug Abuse Control with 325 secret agents.
30:47Its chief is John Finlater.
30:49The fact that LSD is a big traffic and that crime will be interested in it, and particularly organised crime,
31:00there's no question about that.
31:02We're now finding LSD has passed the stage of the sugar cube and is now being stamped out by triple
31:11presses, multiple presses.
31:15When we study these LSD tablets in our laboratories, we find that they are professionally made, they are good tablets,
31:23they are made by expensive machinery.
31:30I was sentenced to 30 years in prison and $30,000 for the possession of less than a half an
31:37ounce of marijuana, which is about $10 worth of marijuana.
31:41Leary was caught with it last year in Texas. Marijuana is not as dangerous as opium, but the penalties are
31:45the same.
31:46For Leary, it's merely a mild substitute for LSD.
31:49I consider this, of course, a heresy trial. Everyone knows this is a trial of religion.
31:54When I look back on the history of heresy trials, I think I was lucky to get out for 30
31:58years because people had been burned at the stake and other cruel things are done for much less than what
32:03I've done when you get into the tricky business of religious persecution.
32:08Handling Leary's case is lawyer Martin Garbus.
32:11A brief has been filed on Tim's behalf in the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, which is the court that
32:18will hear the appeal from the Texas prosecution, and that appeal will be argued within the next two months.
32:24At that time, the argument will be made that a person has the right to use drugs, and that this
32:33right is guaranteed by the Free Exercise and Establishment Clause of the Constitution that deal with the protections given to
32:41religions in the United States.
32:43The argument will be made at that time that people who have a religious commitment and who have been involved
32:52in the study of religions, as Tim has, have a right to use this drug in the furtherance of that
32:58religion.
32:59To drug control lawmen like Finlater, however, Leary looks more like a ringleader than a bona fide religious leader.
33:06This is true. They are the heroes of the psychedelic group that we have in this country today.
33:14They quite frankly tell us that they see nothing wrong with it, and they are proposing that people do use
33:19LSD.
33:21These people are somewhat heroes to men like these men who are saying, let's use it, let's try it, find
33:30out what good there is in it.
33:32Because they are attractive men. They can speak, and people listen to them.
33:37They don't tell them the sad facts about the use of LSD and what happens to people when they do
33:43use it.
33:44No, I don't think that I'm ever going to spend more than one day in jail. That's my limit.
33:51You see, it would be suicidal for the United States government to put me in jail.
33:55Every time they arrest me, they bring more interest and sympathy for what we're doing, because we're not criminals.
34:01We're not dope addicts. We're sincere people trying to do our best for our society and for our own souls.
34:07But, you see, the three groups that always rally to a new religion are the young, the creative, and the
34:12minority groups, the alienate groups.
34:14Now, if the government would put me in prison, say there were a thousand men in the prison,
34:17well, 990 of them would immediately become, they would join my work.
34:27On this occasion in San Francisco, California, a crowd of 15,000 came to join his work.
34:33It was the largest gathering of his followers ever held.
34:35They found it peaceful, instructive, even entertaining.
34:55It's inevitable when you be listened to by your fellow man, because most men are hungry for meaning and for
35:04men who represent meaning.
35:05I'm convinced that even inside the skeptic who just comes to see what's going on or who comes because it
35:14promises more curiosity than the local movie,
35:18even in the heart of this skeptical person, there's a hope that he will find some meaning, that something will
35:26be ignited.
35:33Six words.
35:36Turn on, tune in, drop out.
35:51Turn on these.
35:53Find me within, and the only way out is in.
36:02And in these harnesses up,
36:07snacks of beauty and glory,
36:13and drop out these.
36:17Drop out!
36:22Drop out of high school,
36:25drop out of college,
36:28drop out of graduate school,
36:32drop out of junior executive,
36:36drop out of senior executive,
36:41drop out.
36:42And you will now.
36:42Chewy, I've got to just get it right off.
36:44Oh, you're going to bring that to Tim, huh?
36:45Yeah, that's why.
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