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Senator-judge Alan Peter Cayetano likened the disputed impeachment conviction threshold to “spaghetti” during the 29th day of Vice President Sara Duterte’s impeachment trial.

Cayetano said the impeachment is “no laughing matter” and that every part of the proceedings is serious, highlighting the voting threshold currently being reviewed by the Senate for VP Sara’s possible conviction.

He shared an analogy, saying the threshold could go “pababa nang pababa, pataas nang pataas” depending on the number of senators present. (Video courtesy of Senate of the Philippines)

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00:00On the first day of the hearing, of the trial, I actually brought this up.
00:06And I've said it many times that I'm guided by three books.
00:11The Holy Bible, the Constitution of the Philippines, and the rules of the Senate and the rules of the impeachment
00:19court.
00:20We brought it up in the first day because we believe it's jurisdictional.
00:24We brought it up in the first day not because we do not want any discussion or argument with the
00:31presiding officer.
00:31We welcome the argument, we welcome the discussion on this issue, but in the Supreme Court.
00:40Or if it's in the Senate, before we pass the rules of the Senate.
00:45Because if we did it before we pass the rules of the Senate, all parties would have been informed.
00:51And all parties would have had the chance to go to the Supreme Court.
00:56We brought it up in the first day because then we would have had the option, at least me, whether
01:03I would participate or not.
01:05Because then I would have to decide for myself whether this court has jurisdiction or does not have jurisdiction.
01:11Because it is very clear in the Constitution that there is a possibility that a body can have jurisdiction, yet
01:19it may disappear when there is grave abuse of discretion that amounts to lack or excess of jurisdiction.
01:29So, doon po sa mga nagsasabing ayaw namin pag-usapan tong issue na to, gusto po namin.
01:37Pero timing is essential.
01:40There is a time for everything under this world.
01:43A time to be born, a time to die.
01:44But to discuss it in the middle of the trial, just before the prosecution is ending and just before the
01:55defense will be presenting their evidence,
02:00is not only inconvenient or uncomfortable.
02:06I use the word mistrial as a word of accountability.
02:11Not to plant that it may happen, but to warn.
02:15Because definitely, whatever the result of this impeachment, both parties or any Filipino can go to the Supreme Court.
02:22That's a right of any Filipino.
02:24Wala tayong pag-usapan. Lahat pwedeng pumunta sa Supreme Court.
02:27Ang tanong, binibigyan ba natin sila ng basihan na pumunta sa Supreme Court?
02:35That's why each and every member of this court, present or not, is free to make a statement to remind
02:41all of us.
02:42To remind the senator judges, to remind the prosecution, to remind the defense as part of accountability.
02:54That we cannot be in lack or excess of jurisdiction.
02:59Alam mo, this is no laughing matter.
03:03Every single part of this impeachment is serious.
03:07Pero alam nyo naman po kami, dahil ako nagsimula bilang konsihal, batang kalya ako.
03:12At sabi nung mga kasing edad ko, sabi, sir, parang spaghetti na ang impeachment.
03:19Sabi ko, anong spaghetti?
03:20Pababa ng pababa, pataas ng pataas.
03:23Kapag nawala yung iba, tapos tingin natin, dito sila kikiling, dito sila kikiling, bababa.
03:31Pag bumalik sila, ano? Tataas.
03:35So, yes, it is a serious matter, but it becomes ridiculous if we interpret it in a ridiculous way.
03:53Pag bumalik sila, inbo, p pension or two, takah crowbolik sila, smile, kikiling, chungkiramatika.
03:57You
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