00:00School is the most important and effective lever for integration for those coming from other countries,
00:07for young people born in Italy, children of emigrants.
00:12School prepares everyone, it is open to all, as stated in Article 34 of the Constitution.
00:22It must establish connections, gain the trust of families, help avoid the formation of ghettos, and avoid raising barriers.
00:33So, dear Mario Secchi, it is undeniable that if Meloni launches this announcement 24 hours before,
00:40On Thursday the Valditara Council of Ministers will make a decree,
00:45Mattarella arrives and somehow sets a limit, this seems clear to me, doesn't it?
00:48But no, Mattarella expressed his authoritative opinion as always,
00:54which is of course a guide, which I agree with, by the way.
00:59But it sets a very clear limit: the school cannot divide.
01:02But why, in my opinion, was there an attempt to get Meloni's measure passed?
01:09legitimate game of the opposition, as a kind of stop, but it is not like that.
01:14In reality, the measure envisaged and which will then be brought, I imagine, to the Council of Ministers,
01:20now let's see, on Thursday in the Council of Ministers from the government,
01:25must help prevent foreigners from suffering what is
01:30the exclusivity of a class that in many cases is now essentially made up of only foreigners.
01:36Gelmini, when she was Minister of Education, had...
01:38Exactly, such rules exist, but they have been completely disregarded.
01:44It's not easy to do, let's be clear.
01:46Also because, look, these are the numbers, how many students of foreign origin?
01:50One thousand classes out of 300,000 have more than 20% first-generation students.
01:54This morning, in the meeting at the Dire agency, I was saying exactly that.
01:59Be aware that in Bologna, I believe, out of 22 classes, 18 exceed the limit of foreigners.
02:07So we need to study a mechanism, but the problem exists.
02:11It is designed to protect foreigners, to encourage their integration, not to exclude them, if anything.
02:17Because a class of foreign children, many of whom probably don't speak Italian,
02:24I speak with good reason, from family experience and so on, it produces disadvantaged subjects.
02:32If, on the other hand, you have a mixed, well-mixed class, where Italian...
02:38Because in the end, the problem is always the language.
02:40Where Italian is spread in a certain way.
02:43No, we are here a few months, if not a year away from the vote, Meloni chooses the last year of government
02:48to pursue General Vannacci.
02:51No, he is not chasing General Vannacci.
02:52Well, Vannacci himself says it, I'm happy that the government...
02:54Just because Vannacci says it doesn't mean it's true.
02:56Follow our path.
02:57Isabella Ciotti, you'll meet the general soon.
02:59I can remember that Meloni was involved in politics when she was a young girl, Vannacci did it today.
03:05Meloni invented the new Italian right, his name is Gianfranco Fini.
03:10Vannacci no, so anyway.
03:11But Vannacci says, we are the real right.
03:14For the other Vannacci was also a guest of the duo Fedez Marra.
03:18The right invented it.
03:19Ciotti, where are you?
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