00:00Dan Thomas, I thought, was doing a brilliant job. He came to our national conference in
00:04Birmingham and spoke and certainly had the support, not just of our Welsh members, but
00:08more broadly from across the United Kingdom. I am sorry for his personal difficulties that
00:15he's going through. No one's life is ever seamless, and I'm quite sure he will come
00:20out of these before too long. But it was pretty much untenable for him to continue as leader
00:29whilst he had these domestic disputes going on. So we very quickly and rapidly have moved
00:36to electing a new leader. And as you can see, Helen Jenner is now the leader of Reform in
00:43Wales and the group here in the Senate.
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