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Is it really possible to read someone’s mind? How do magicians make the impossible look real? And where do magic, mentalism, hypnosis, and illusion meet reality?
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Join Beyond the Headlines LIVE as expert performers Marvin Cabanes, Nicel Quezon, and JV Tagaan take us behind the spectacle and reveal the techniques, psychology, and craft behind the art of illusion.
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00:01:21Then comes the milk, steamed smooth, creamy, and balanced.
00:01:26The perfect latte is not rushed.
00:01:29It is crafted one cup at a time.
00:01:32Your perfect latte is ready.
00:01:35Coffee first, then everything else.
00:01:39What if what you see is not what actually happened?
00:01:43How easily can your mind be convinced?
00:01:47Good afternoon and welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
00:01:50And I'm DJ Moises.
00:01:51And today's conversation is brought to us by Coffee First.
00:01:55Magic comes in many forms.
00:01:57And today we're exploring three fascinating genres.
00:02:01Up-close magic, bizarre magic, and mentalism.
00:02:05Let's look deeper and think better.
00:02:08We'll get to know the magicians behind the magic,
00:02:11learn what makes their respective genres unique,
00:02:13and of course, ask them to give us a few samples along the way.
00:02:18So, hi Marvin, Naisel, and JV, and welcome back to Beyond the Headlines.
00:02:27Thank you so much for inviting us again.
00:02:29No, actually, you can say it out loud.
00:02:38So, anyhow, you're welcome.
00:02:40You're welcome.
00:02:42So, now, because this is the second time that you are in the show,
00:02:46but I think during the first, I was not able to ask you the why.
00:02:50You do what you do.
00:02:52So, what's with magic that you love the most and why you are doing it?
00:02:58Yes, right?
00:02:59Okay.
00:03:05So, the reason why I really love magic,
00:03:09it is because I want to see other people,
00:03:17some reactions aside from that.
00:03:20It is also my passion.
00:03:22And I think not just passion, magic is my obsession already.
00:03:27So, I've been, like, doing magic for, like, 17 years or more.
00:03:35And for the genre that I'm performing, which is Bizarre and also Coin Magic,
00:03:45for Bizarre, the reason why I choose this, it is because it's so unique.
00:03:52It is fresh, unlike other tricks that you can see, like, on birthday parties, and also social media.
00:04:07So, it's like a very unique type of skill or type of art in magic.
00:04:14So, now, this one is for you, Nysel.
00:04:17Beyond entertainment, what does magic mean to you, beyond entertaining people?
00:04:24Um, specifically for me, it's the craft itself.
00:04:33Because the method behind doing magic or mentalism is very unique and very witty.
00:04:42So, if you practice in craft, you'll get deeper into the concept of magic.
00:04:54And, by the way, for the benefit of our viewers, in case you forgot,
00:04:58I'm also their student, no?
00:05:00So, they're also teaching magic.
00:05:03So, my next question has something to do with teaching, no?
00:05:06So, for a person like me, who's still learning and are yet to master, watch out.
00:05:13Which one is harder?
00:05:15Learning the trick itself or learning how to perform with the trick?
00:05:22It's learning how to perform with a trick.
00:05:26Learning the trick itself sounds, like, easy.
00:05:30See, you, like, as the audience know, you joined the workshop and you got it really quick.
00:05:39Wow.
00:05:39Star student.
00:05:40Of course.
00:05:41Always.
00:05:42But when it comes to...
00:05:44Yeah, okay, good to know.
00:05:46But when it comes to performing, based on what you've shared in our previous interview, right?
00:05:51I don't know how to shuffle cards.
00:05:53Yeah, see?
00:05:54And then, I remember the cups and bowls, the new story.
00:05:58And then, you, yourself, is amazed by it when you perform it.
00:06:03Because, back in your mind, you know the trick, but you have having second thoughts if it will work or
00:06:09not.
00:06:10Correct.
00:06:10And performing it to your friends and family and saying it that you've joined a workshop of magicians and performing
00:06:15it right away is a very bold move.
00:06:17And I'm so thankful that I got it right.
00:06:18Yeah, see?
00:06:19The first time, continue.
00:06:20Performing, the trick is much harder because the way you interact with your audience, the way your, you know, nervousness
00:06:30and how it works.
00:06:32You already know how it works, but you, yourself, is still having doubts if it will work.
00:06:37So, yeah, that's why it's hard.
00:06:38So, this question is for all three of you or one of you or two of you, no?
00:06:43Because you each specialize in a particular genre, no?
00:06:48Is that also related to your personality?
00:06:52Why you chose bizarre, for example, or mentalism, for example, or up close, for example?
00:07:00For me, yes.
00:07:01It's based on the personality.
00:07:04So, I've been with these guys for how many years and performing magic tricks to everyone.
00:07:09And I can see that Nysel is a mentalist.
00:07:13And, yeah, he's really mental.
00:07:14So, it's a personality thing, right?
00:07:17And then Marvin is bizarre, right?
00:07:19I'm not saying he's...
00:07:21I thought that's what you meant.
00:07:23See?
00:07:24You can read mine right now.
00:07:28But the thing is, I love doing...
00:07:30Can I say, like, yucky things, you know?
00:07:33Right?
00:07:34Or daring.
00:07:35Daring.
00:07:36Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:37Because sometimes it involves blood, like, everything.
00:07:39Right?
00:07:40So, on my end, I talk a lot.
00:07:42So, close magic is the best thing for me because that's the best misdirection I have when I talk a
00:07:47lot.
00:07:47Well, I can tell that you talk a lot.
00:07:49Yeah, he did.
00:07:53So, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:07:57Magic is an illusion.
00:08:01So, what makes an illusion, and any of you can answer this, unforgettable.
00:08:08It's a mistake.
00:08:09People, after they leave an event, or they leave a party, or they leave a dinner, that's really something that
00:08:16they talk about.
00:08:17Or even for our viewers, and they would watch this particular episode after the episode, and there's something that sticks
00:08:24with them.
00:08:24So, what makes an illusion unforgettable?
00:08:28Nice.
00:08:30For that, I think it's, there's, for the trick or the magic to be very memorable.
00:08:39I think the, the best, the best example is personalization.
00:08:46So, if you do something personal to your audience, it will stick to them because, like, for example, you choose
00:08:56a card and you get the, the magician get the card.
00:08:59It doesn't, um, really memorable.
00:09:03It's just, um, people just say, we'll say, it's just a card.
00:09:06Yeah.
00:09:07Unless if you choose a card, sign it, put your birthday on it, draw a, something, um, your first pet
00:09:15space in there.
00:09:16So, it will be personal, uh, it's, um, more memorable siya sa audience.
00:09:20Um, this is not applicable sa close-up, but all types of performances and magic, uh, kinds of.
00:09:27And so we, before we segue specifically to up close, at least for the introduction, my last question is, how
00:09:34much of it is also improvised?
00:09:36Because I know that you already have the trick in mind, you have an idea on how the story will
00:09:42go and the participation of the audience.
00:09:46But the moment we reach the venue, you realize something na, oh, Murad, I think I can, uh, integrate this
00:09:52to the performance.
00:09:53How much of what you do is also improvised the moment you get to see the people in the venue?
00:09:58Or do you stick to what you truly, really rehearsed?
00:10:02Um, for that, I think, um, when it comes to also the venue, uh, and also the, the audiences, because
00:10:14there are types of magic that are applicable for kids, for, um, specific ages.
00:10:21So, for example, if you're a stage magician and then you go to a party and the tricks that you
00:10:27are preparing are, like, for kids, party, but the audiences, um, are not.
00:10:32So, um, largely parents, yay.
00:10:34Yes.
00:10:35And also the parents.
00:10:36Yes.
00:10:37Something like that.
00:10:38And, uh, the audiences are, like, professionals and, uh, just a few kids, maybe, like, one or two kids.
00:10:44Because they ended up playing outside, for example.
00:10:46Yes.
00:10:47Then, with that, so, you actually need to adjust.
00:10:51So, you need to be prepared because, um, as, um, as a professional magician, uh, you need to have a
00:10:58plan A and a, and a plan B so that the, uh, the magic that you'll be performing is appropriate
00:11:05to the audiences.
00:11:06Mm-hmm.
00:11:07So, Sige, now we're moving to the first magic, you know, just, like, the same sequence that we had before.
00:11:16And, and we will adjust the screen because the two of you will have to exit now.
00:11:20Sige.
00:11:22But, for now, that I'm, I'm actually, I'm, I'm just, kind of, with you in this particular segue.
00:11:30Yeah.
00:11:30So, how, what is also, can you brief us again or refresh us again?
00:11:36What is Up Close Magic?
00:11:38And why does it work for parties or social events?
00:11:41Um, so, it's called Up Close or Close Up Magic and you can interchange it.
00:11:47Or Callgate.
00:11:48Or, why?
00:11:49Or, we're mentioning brands.
00:11:50Sponsor.
00:11:51Right?
00:11:52Okay, okay.
00:11:53So, um, Close Up Magic works on any, almost any event.
00:11:58Mm-hmm.
00:11:59Because, uh, when it comes to performing Close Up Magic, what we do is stuff that we do mostly in
00:12:04our hands.
00:12:05So, I, you, uh, I say this a lot.
00:12:08Uh, people are very familiar with David Blaine and Chris Angel.
00:12:11As a magician, and for sure, I don't know how old people are watching these videos, but I think there's
00:12:17in that age range.
00:12:19Mm-hmm.
00:12:19Uh, they already know what they do.
00:12:21Like, pick a card, watch this coin, watch this hand, and everything.
00:12:25So, that's basically the explanation of Close Up Magic.
00:12:28And why it works on any event, for example, as a corporate event, um, on a business event, people come
00:12:35inside and go and walk around, right?
00:12:38Mm-hmm.
00:12:38And, oh, the problem is always, how can we entertain the guests?
00:12:42Like, all of them.
00:12:43Mm-hmm.
00:12:43Well, a magician, a Close Up Magician, is one of the best solution that they have.
00:12:47Because a Close Up Magician can perform a trick or two on each, um, person that, uh, getting in with,
00:12:58uh, within the event.
00:12:59Maybe a guest, uh, guest number one, guest number two.
00:13:02Mm-hmm.
00:13:02We perform, like, two-minute magic trick for them.
00:13:05Mm-hmm.
00:13:05And then, for example, also, is a wedding.
00:13:07Mm-hmm.
00:13:08When weddings, there's a thing right now, they call it a Cocktail Party.
00:13:11Mm-hmm.
00:13:11And, uh, in a cocktail party, the guests drink some, uh, cocktails and everything for the name itself.
00:13:18And that's the time we can use the table and perform a magic trick for them.
00:13:22Mm-hmm.
00:13:22And they can see it really close.
00:13:24Not, like, the same on the kids' party stage and everything.
00:13:26So, yeah.
00:13:27So, yeah.
00:13:27So, that said, can you demonstrate as, um, a particular trick or performance that would suit best in a social
00:13:36event or in a cocktail party?
00:13:39Ah, okay.
00:13:39Oh, and the context of the question, and at least for our audience, it's because normally, at least, no, the
00:13:44paradigm that I have is, most of the time, unless if I'm buying a ticket for, specifically for a magic
00:13:51show.
00:13:52But most of the time, outside those opportunities, I usually encounter magic in a kiddie party.
00:14:00Yeah.
00:14:01But let's veer away from kiddie parties, and so let's assume that this one is a cocktail party, for example.
00:14:07And then, can you, can you show us a sample of a trick that's applicable for a cocktail party?
00:14:13On what they expect to see.
00:14:15So, most of the time, I stand up.
00:14:17So, for this time, just, like, sit down to make it chill.
00:14:20Okay.
00:14:20So, what I do is this.
00:14:22Mm-hmm.
00:14:22Your favorite, uh, best friend.
00:14:25Mm-hmm.
00:14:25Here's the camera.
00:14:26Yeah.
00:14:27Mm-hmm.
00:14:27So, what we do, uh, what I usually do is I introduce myself.
00:14:30Hi, my name is JV.
00:14:32I'm from the Cebu Magicians Association.
00:14:34And I'm hired to make you guys disappear.
00:14:38Oh, maybe amaze you guys, right?
00:14:40So, and I, uh, when I show this one, they already know that I'm a magician.
00:14:45Or sometimes they say I'm a gambler.
00:14:46So, I just say, I have this, uh, deck of cards.
00:14:48Mm-hmm.
00:14:49And do you know how to shuffle cards?
00:14:51Oh, yes.
00:14:52No.
00:14:53So, that's, we'll find it again that I don't know how to shuffle cards.
00:14:56Yeah, but it's okay because, uh, what I usually do, because you've mentioned it before, that you don't know how
00:15:00to shuffle cards.
00:15:01Mm-hmm.
00:15:02And sometimes people are holding their drinks and, uh, food.
00:15:05Oh, yeah, true.
00:15:06Right?
00:15:06Good point.
00:15:06Like, like, like, so, what I usually do is, uh, me, myself, shuffles it.
00:15:10Mm-hmm.
00:15:10And then sometimes I ask people to pick a card, but when there's, like, a, they call it pika-pika.
00:15:16Mm-hmm.
00:15:16There's a food, like, finger foods, and they've been holding a tempura and chip.
00:15:19There's money.
00:15:20Yeah.
00:15:20And then, so, they sometimes don't want to hold it.
00:15:23Mm-hmm.
00:15:23So, what I usually do is just, like, just say stop.
00:15:26So, this is an example.
00:15:27So, example, you're holding a drink.
00:15:29Can you, like, like, yeah, okay.
00:15:30Say good.
00:15:30Yeah.
00:15:31Coffee first.
00:15:31Shout out to coffee first.
00:15:32Yeah.
00:15:33So, now, I want you just, uh, say, say stop.
00:15:37Mm-hmm.
00:15:38Yeah, just say stop.
00:15:39Mm-hmm.
00:15:40Ah, stop.
00:15:42Yeah, sure.
00:15:44Sure.
00:15:44Last answer.
00:15:45Last stop.
00:15:46Okay, good.
00:15:47Now, when you say stop, you can remember the card.
00:15:49So, you cannot, like, it's okay to not touch it, because you have some money on your hands.
00:15:53Or coffee first.
00:15:54Yeah, or coffee first.
00:15:55Mm-hmm.
00:15:57For coffee first.
00:15:58Yeah.
00:15:58So, as now people see it, remember the card?
00:16:00Mm-hmm.
00:16:01So, I usually do the...
00:16:02Sorry, tell me again.
00:16:03See, you forgot the card.
00:16:05Okay, okay.
00:16:05Save.
00:16:06Stick it to your mind.
00:16:07Mm-hmm.
00:16:08Don't forget about it.
00:16:09Mm-hmm.
00:16:09Okay.
00:16:10So, that's my usual line when I perform in this.
00:16:13Okay.
00:16:14And...
00:16:14Moving the tablet.
00:16:16Okay, continue.
00:16:17Okay.
00:16:17Okay.
00:16:18So, okay.
00:16:19So, I usually ask now, remember the card.
00:16:21And then, this is a common interaction of my shows.
00:16:24And they always ask me, okay, you'll find your card.
00:16:27It's so boring.
00:16:28Okay.
00:16:29So, I'll say, I'm gonna snap my fingers.
00:16:31And I already know what your card is.
00:16:33Okay.
00:16:34And to reveal.
00:16:36And this is where the people like clap or something.
00:16:38And then, boom.
00:16:39Boom.
00:16:40This is your card.
00:16:42Oh.
00:16:43Okay.
00:16:43Now, I'm afraid.
00:16:44But it's not my card.
00:16:45Yeah.
00:16:46Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, magicians do fail.
00:16:49Okay.
00:16:50Magicians do.
00:16:50So, it's not the seven of hearts.
00:16:52It's not.
00:16:53So, you're nervous than me.
00:16:55So, you're where the improvisation works.
00:16:59Right?
00:16:59Right?
00:17:00So, what I usually tell is like, there's an ink.
00:17:02And yeah, this camera angle is good.
00:17:04So, the people can see.
00:17:05Right?
00:17:06So, I think I prefer here.
00:17:07So, this is your, this is not your card.
00:17:09Right?
00:17:09Yeah, it's not my card.
00:17:10So, I got nervous there.
00:17:12And yeah, me too.
00:17:13I just don't show it that well.
00:17:16So, right here.
00:17:19So, yeah.
00:17:19So, this is not your card.
00:17:21So, here's the part where I improvise and say, like, I'm gonna make your card appear here.
00:17:29Wow.
00:17:30Even, I don't know what the card is.
00:17:32But, I'm making some improvisation right now.
00:17:35So, what I usually do is just like this.
00:17:37And I just shake.
00:17:39Like that.
00:17:40And yeah.
00:17:41Yeah.
00:17:42It works.
00:17:43Wow.
00:17:43Right?
00:17:44And the best thing about this interaction is the audience also can do the magic.
00:17:50Because they're done eating the money.
00:17:52Okay.
00:17:52And the pick up pick up.
00:17:53Coffee first down.
00:17:54Yeah.
00:17:54So, I just wave the card and it changes.
00:17:56Right?
00:17:57So, it's your time to shake it and change it.
00:18:00What do you mean?
00:18:01Like?
00:18:01You can just like, yeah, like that.
00:18:02Okay.
00:18:03Yeah.
00:18:03Go.
00:18:04Okay.
00:18:05Yeah.
00:18:06You see it?
00:18:07It changes.
00:18:08Not the front.
00:18:09The back.
00:18:11Yeah.
00:18:12Right?
00:18:12Did you notice it changed color at the back?
00:18:14Ah, okay.
00:18:15Again, again.
00:18:16Can you check it again?
00:18:19So, you see the color now is red.
00:18:20Yes.
00:18:21So, you see it change.
00:18:23Yes.
00:18:23Into red.
00:18:24Okay.
00:18:24Yeah, because the card that we've been using all the…
00:18:26Is blue cards.
00:18:27Yeah.
00:18:30Okay.
00:18:31So, yeah, that's one example.
00:18:33One example.
00:18:34Yeah, that's one example.
00:18:35So, I can see that this is perfect for cocktails, especially small dinners.
00:18:42Yeah.
00:18:43Or family dinners.
00:18:44Family dinners.
00:18:45For example.
00:18:46Or even reunions.
00:18:47Yeah, yeah.
00:18:48And then, because they're holding their drink or they're eating something.
00:18:52But they can still interact.
00:18:53Or holding coffee first.
00:18:55Or holding coffee first.
00:18:57As a magician, and this is now in the context of me trying to learn more, no?
00:19:02Yeah.
00:19:02Is it harder because the person or the audience is from the word itself is up close to you?
00:19:11So, they can easily, potentially easily spot the trick.
00:19:18I can say it's easier on my end.
00:19:20Really?
00:19:20Yeah.
00:19:21Tell me more as an aspiring magician.
00:19:23Because, so as an aspiring magician, why close-up magic is easy.
00:19:29Or it sounds easy.
00:19:30Okay, I'm going to check the way it's difficult for me.
00:19:32It's just close.
00:19:33So, whatever illusion I'm making.
00:19:35But the thing is, yeah.
00:19:37You've mentioned the illusion part.
00:19:39So, I do believe in the saying of, I think you've heard this, the closer you look, the less you
00:19:45see.
00:19:46Because the more you're magnified on how close you are, I can do a lot of things.
00:19:50That's a good point.
00:19:51Right?
00:19:51I can do the changes.
00:19:53I can steal your money.
00:19:55Your hair is moving.
00:19:57Yeah.
00:19:57I'm looking at your hand.
00:19:59The hair move is hard.
00:20:01Especially if you don't have hair.
00:20:03Yeah, yeah.
00:20:08So, that's why it's easier.
00:20:11Because, on that part, because I can do a lot of things.
00:20:14Because people, right now, most people are having this like short, like on videos.
00:20:21Like, they have this short-term memory and everything.
00:20:24So, I can just like steal wallets.
00:20:26Oh, no.
00:20:26I don't steal wallets in shows, though.
00:20:28It depends on the role.
00:20:29Oh, no.
00:20:30My wallet is gone.
00:20:30Oh, yeah.
00:20:31Okay.
00:20:32So, yeah.
00:20:32So, yeah.
00:20:33So, that's what I usually do.
00:20:35And, yeah.
00:20:36That's why it's easy.
00:20:37Because you have a more.
00:20:38They think the closer you have, I have more space to play with.
00:20:42Really?
00:20:43That's a paradigm shift for me.
00:20:44And then, my last question before we move to Bizarre is,
00:20:49Do you also read, and this is in the context of me wanting to learn magic.
00:20:54And for those of our audience who also want to be your student, no?
00:20:57Do you also read my mind, like where I'm looking, what I'm looking at?
00:21:03Do you also observe that?
00:21:05Most of the time, all magicians does that.
00:21:09Mentalist, Bizarre, stage magician, kids magician.
00:21:10So, you look at my facial expression, the movement of my eyes, what particular object I'm looking.
00:21:15Yeah, how you react, how you react on things, like what happened before.
00:21:20You say it's a wrong card, your reaction speaks a lot, like, oh, okay.
00:21:24Yeah, you can tell that it's like, oh.
00:21:26Oh, oh, no.
00:21:27As a whole, like, oh, no.
00:21:28Why did I hire this guy, right?
00:21:30So, that's what I usually check.
00:21:33So, I check the body language, how they act.
00:21:36Because also on, like, private events, corporate events, to be exact, people are busy.
00:21:42They talk a lot.
00:21:43So, we need to know how can we enter that space so we can perform a magic trick for them.
00:21:50Because other people are, like, talking about money and everything.
00:21:52And sometimes, like, when we get in and they know that we're the magicians, they check their pockets right away,
00:21:57you know?
00:21:57So, yeah.
00:21:58So, that's why we need to know.
00:21:59I should check the content.
00:22:00Because the wallet may be here, but the content is no longer.
00:22:02Yeah.
00:22:02So, that's why it's very important on reading body language.
00:22:07So, we can know how to tackle this kind of person, how to perform to this person, how can we
00:22:14talk to this person.
00:22:15Maybe he's Chinese.
00:22:16Xiexie.
00:22:18Okay.
00:22:18So, it depends.
00:22:19Customize it.
00:22:19Yeah, customize it.
00:22:20Spanish.
00:22:21Kuchara tinidor.
00:22:22I don't know.
00:22:22You know?
00:22:23So, it works like that.
00:22:24So, that's why it's very important.
00:22:25And as well as a starting magician, you yourself, hoping to be a better magician?
00:22:30In time.
00:22:31In time.
00:22:32So, you should study people again and again.
00:22:36So, yeah.
00:22:36That's very important.
00:22:37And then, the last is the amount of practice.
00:22:40Now, what's the length of time normally for a trick like that?
00:22:46For somebody like me to become eventually proficient, like seamless, smooth.
00:22:53Smooth.
00:22:54Seamless.
00:22:54My focus is already on the performance.
00:22:56I'm no longer like, oh no, will this work or not?
00:22:58Ah, okay.
00:22:59So, for me, I can say like 10 years.
00:23:01I've mentioned this before.
00:23:02Okay.
00:23:03I think you've got it.
00:23:04It's like 10 years.
00:23:04I was hoping that you'll give me a different answer.
00:23:07Maybe I will be the different answer.
00:23:09Ah, so you're trying now again to make it into a year?
00:23:12Well, we'll see.
00:23:13Okay.
00:23:13So, yeah.
00:23:14So, other people are good at this.
00:23:15But I can say if you're comfortable to perform it and do the trick, like you can like sleep
00:23:22and close your eyes while performing it.
00:23:2310 years is a good timeline.
00:23:25But you can do shorter.
00:23:27It depends.
00:23:279.9.
00:23:289.9.
00:23:299.9.
00:23:30No, but for the benefit of our audience and before we move to Bizarre Magic, the reason
00:23:35why I actually spoke about it.
00:23:38And by the way, you can now exit.
00:23:40Okay.
00:23:40Okay.
00:23:41This is what happens when it's live.
00:23:45So, the reason why I was asking about practice, because there are also impatient people like
00:23:52me in which I would want to learn something quickly.
00:23:58But magic actually just like dance or just like artwork, there's no shortcut to it.
00:24:05So, the more time we spend in practicing the trick, the seamless also it becomes.
00:24:13So, I think that's why it was emphasized earlier that there is a process and there is a timeline
00:24:18for a trick to be learned.
00:24:20So, now let's move to Bizarre.
00:24:22I'm sure a lot of our followers also were amazed about this particular genre of kinang magic.
00:24:30But before we move into another example, kinang, what kind of event is also perfect for Bizarre
00:24:37magic?
00:24:38The types of events.
00:24:40It is actually like applicable to any types of events.
00:24:46So, you can perform it to a birthday parties, corporate events, and any other probably stand-up
00:24:59magic, something like that.
00:25:00And this is also perfect for a cocktail type of event.
00:25:06It's because, so, some of the, I think people are like holding their drinks and they're also
00:25:19eating.
00:25:20So, you can just ask them if, have you seen something extraordinary, something like that.
00:25:27Have you seen something unique?
00:25:29Because if you ask other people, have you seen a magic trick?
00:25:35The first thing that will come to their mind is about card trick, coin trick, and something
00:25:42like that.
00:25:43So, with Bizarre, you can show it to them by, like for example, a needle, you show it to
00:25:53them.
00:25:54And this is something like they haven't seen before.
00:25:57So, they will be like intrigued if, um, or unsang magic ang i-perform because they don't
00:26:06know paman what to expect.
00:26:08So, after that, then yeah, they will experience something extraordinary and something unique
00:26:16after a Bizarre magic was performed to them.
00:26:20So, for example, there's already All Souls Day or Teachers Day, Teachers Month in October.
00:26:30So, do you also customize it according to the theme, like it's about teachers or All Souls
00:26:38Day, obviously, it's about the souls?
00:26:42Well, um, with customizing a trick, um, I think Bizarre, um, it, it is actually depends
00:26:51on the, on a situation because you cannot perform a, uh, a Bizarre or maybe a, a blade or a,
00:26:59uh, a needle with kids.
00:27:02Students, yes.
00:27:02No?
00:27:03Because we don't know if they will, um, follow it when they, uh, they don't have the maturity
00:27:09yet now.
00:27:10Yes, that's right.
00:27:11So, with that, uh, we customize tricks based on, um, what the client needs.
00:27:18Mm-hmm.
00:27:18But it is also something bizarre.
00:27:20Mm-hmm.
00:27:21Yes.
00:27:21Sige, so, just like JB earlier, can you also give us, uh, a, a, a sample, no, of the
00:27:28kind of experience that someone could hire you and, uh, a Bizarre magician, uh, for you
00:27:36to create?
00:27:37Sure.
00:27:38Uh, so now, um, since it is also applicable to other audiences, so now we will use something,
00:27:46um, friendly.
00:27:48Mm-hmm.
00:27:49The last time it was TikTok?
00:27:51Yes.
00:27:51So, yeah, we will still use a, uh, candy, so, uh, you can get, uh, a candy.
00:28:00Yes.
00:28:01Okay.
00:28:02And then I'll use this also.
00:28:05Yeah, you can try that.
00:28:06What do you mean, like?
00:28:07Yeah, you can eat it.
00:28:08Okay.
00:28:08All right.
00:28:09And for this one, I'll, uh, eat it.
00:28:14Ah?
00:28:14Mm-hmm.
00:28:16And then, right now, what I'll be doing is that, um, we will use something, this, wait.
00:28:26Wow.
00:28:28Oh.
00:28:29Okay.
00:28:33We will use a, um, a dental floss.
00:28:37Mm-hmm.
00:28:37All right.
00:28:38But we cannot consume this.
00:28:39Yes.
00:28:40Okay.
00:28:40All right.
00:28:41Mm-hmm.
00:28:44Now,
00:28:47What I'll be doing is that, um, I'm going to try to swallow the candy.
00:29:00And then what I'll be doing is that, uh, I'm going to try to catch it.
00:29:09Okay.
00:29:12Okay.
00:29:14Okay.
00:29:18Oh.
00:29:20Oh.
00:29:20Oh.
00:29:21I'm afraid to go to continue.
00:29:24Yay.
00:29:25There.
00:29:26Okay.
00:29:34are you okay yeah i'm okay i'm fine
00:29:38so why this genre non why did you among all the types of magic why are you drawn specifically to
00:29:47bizarre um with bizarre um it is because it's like i said earlier is a very unique and a very
00:29:58uh
00:30:00um how do i say this um uh i think something uh unexpected
00:30:09especially a person um is not kind of familiar with other tricks like um you can see from my
00:30:17face yes like card tricks card tricks and other um stuff like that so yeah they uh it is completely
00:30:24unexpected and and actually yes because i did not even know or at least the audience did not even
00:30:31know how the trick will go so there's the element of unpredictability no yeah and a surprise as well
00:30:38and surprise before my last three questions then i'm for for bizarre do you also get so this is now
00:30:46in the context of the audience who wish to specialize and learn more about bizarre magic and to be your
00:30:52student do you also get scared about a particular trick now when i say scared because it's bizarre
00:31:01yes so it's like like earlier how can the candy actually get out of my throat kind of here serious
00:31:11um i think on maybe when you start practicing on a specific trick um for a bizarre uh effect so
00:31:22uh yeah at
00:31:23first um especially um when it involves uh blade uh needles uh nails long nails and uh other stuff which
00:31:37is
00:31:37uh also knives something like that yeah and by the way and this is still last question and this is
00:31:43still in
00:31:43the context of being your student how long does it normally on average because it varies on the complexity of
00:31:51the trick but on an average how long does it normally take me to be as good as you um
00:31:58i think it depends
00:31:59on the the on the dedication because um learning the the method is easy but um performing it uh perfectly
00:32:13it takes time so um i would say on a specific trick i think five or seven years that's enough
00:32:26and then eventually the performing part follows yes because uh you will actually have a trial and error
00:32:32um while practicing and while performing but yeah and by the way it's supposed to be my last question
00:32:39but i just remembered to ask you one thing is that a trick that you design for the lack of
00:32:45better
00:32:45word you design or create yourself or that's also something that you learn from somebody else in the
00:32:52same manner that i'm learning from you yes um i actually uh learned this from a specific magician okay
00:32:59yes especially when it's bizarre because um creating a bizarre trick really takes uh time time yeah
00:33:07especially uh it needs to be um an original so yeah we actually learned this um types of tricks from
00:33:15other magicians
00:33:16which is uh famous so in my case for example so it was supposed to be the last question but
00:33:22i promised this
00:33:23before we move to kind of mentalist are there also types of personalities like for example like ako i'd go
00:33:31to you
00:33:32and then you would say na i think you're more with close up or you're with mentalist but not necessarily
00:33:38bizarre
00:33:39do you also have that an idea for if somebody like me would say teach me um i think we
00:33:47really can tell ah yes
00:33:50if what type of genre you would go because um it it would really uh like it's really up to
00:33:58you if
00:34:03um because um um because uh um because uh um because uh um because uh um because uh um
00:34:05because you cannot tell if maybe for example you're a funny person but you will go to a serious trick
00:34:10or a
00:34:10serious act bizarre is usually serious no or is it a funny also um sometimes we can um um
00:34:16um kind of perform it as a uh as a comedy sometimes yes so yeah it will really depends uh
00:34:22specific person if
00:34:24because um um because um um because it it really ups uh it's up to the person it's really up
00:34:34to the person
00:34:35thank you very much but he will we will see him after pa so i think this is the time
00:34:40in which i'll be
00:34:41yes it happens on a live show so thank you that that's actually marvin and he just showed us a
00:34:48bizarre trick so now let's move into
00:34:50the final genre and or in the afternoon and that is mentalist you know so so this is also one
00:34:59piece
00:35:00that i'm curious because a lot of us and you can correct me if i'm wrong a lot of us
00:35:06would associate
00:35:07this with mind reading yeah sigur so tell us more about this is this really mind reading or it's still
00:35:14an illusion
00:35:15um um mentalism is actually um the very close that you can get into real magic because um i'm gonna
00:35:26give
00:35:26you a little bit of description about it it's not about um reading people's minds or like um
00:35:34um
00:35:41i would even ask you about how the impeachment will go yeah it's something like that it doesn't go like
00:35:49that okay but instead i'm actually reading people through their body language um um verbal cues um and etc so
00:35:59um it's
00:36:01learn like i said um from the previous podcast um episode that it is learnable you can actually learn
00:36:10it but it takes pretty pretty um time long time to perfect it so once you um get the gist
00:36:19out of it
00:36:20it's pretty become like um impossible for the people people watching that don't know how to do it
00:36:28so for mentalism does this work best on smaller events or this can also be done
00:36:36on stage for example but let's say a crowd of 50 people
00:36:42it actually um it doesn't matter as long as um people can hear you
00:36:48and see you even though a little bit uh it it actually works okay okay so can you give us
00:36:56also a quick
00:36:57sample no although you've done it before but i'm curious what you're going to do this time on what people
00:37:04will
00:37:04experience no should you be uh should you be uh among the uh the performers on a corporate event or
00:37:15on a sit-down dinner
00:37:16oh so may i also answer that question before i start so um instead um poor mentalism uh why am
00:37:30i very
00:37:31suited for a corporate or business event because on a corporate event it doesn't necessarily that
00:37:39um it is revolving around entertainment it's about um connecting people right so um
00:37:48um
00:37:49if you
00:37:49um mentalism is a very great
00:37:53example on how to connect people for example there's a shy person in there or
00:37:57get them engaged get i can get them engaged so
00:38:02i'm sorry somebody is out of place and then you notice them and you can come
00:38:06that ask the person yeah and then engage no basically instead of watching a 20 minute video
00:38:11um i'm sorry it's not video it's performance on a stage um mentalism or even close-up magic can like
00:38:20go around places um talk to people interact so yeah let's let's see another sample of mentalism okay cool
00:38:30um so from the last time i told you if there's a person that you wanted to interview and
00:38:41it's andres bonifacio and incidentally yesterday was national heroes yeah could have been a good cast
00:38:50it would be bizarre yesterday okay um right now i wanted to like dig deeper on that
00:38:58um and i want you to ask a very personal question if that's okay go ahead and you're asking a
00:39:05personal
00:39:06question with a live audience okay see you guys
00:39:15okay so it's like deja with this like happen again again it's happened before but i want you to think
00:39:22of
00:39:22someone in your past wow um i'm closing my eyes okay someone in my okay okay so um that shows
00:39:32that you're
00:39:33really thinking about your past okay so i want you to think of someone in your past that maybe make
00:39:41sure
00:39:46okay okay okay okay so i'm going to ask you some questions for example but you don't don't necessarily
00:40:00need to answer i don't yeah you will just ask me but i will not verbally answer the question yeah
00:40:08okay okay so look me in the eye and i look in the eye okay okay i think it's a
00:40:20female no no it's a male okay
00:40:25i think i gotta get just um did you meet this um person in in the past yeah yes somewhere
00:40:33in your
00:40:3520s um 20s 20s i mean maybe i don't know i'm answering the question i'm not answering your question
00:40:41okay okay no it's okay so i can answer yeah you can answer yeah maybe no in your teens no
00:40:51okay okay
00:41:03if you imagine him you can you talk to him like okay so he's if you talk to him like
00:41:14this he's right
00:41:15here mm-hmm you look him eye to eye mm-hmm okay okay now i'm curious okay so
00:41:31before this day we haven't talked um this is not scripted guys from the comment section
00:41:42i'm curious okay how would you figure this person out siga so
00:41:51in your mind say hi and his name hi blank nice to meet you again include so the first and
00:42:01the last
00:42:01name yeah yeah now i will say it no just in your mind okay ready go hi hi nice to
00:42:10see you again nice to see
00:42:11you again okay now say the person's name oh gosh it's okay now i will say yeah like i will
00:42:18say the name
00:42:19one of the last name and the last name yeah so yeah hi ernie fritz
00:42:28that's strange
00:42:29can i tell the audience yeah you can that's why this is very unlikely for you to guess yeah no
00:42:41because
00:42:41this was my boss when i was probably in my 20s and i was assigned in shanghai so he's australian
00:42:51and and the reason why i specifically picked him and i remembered him because this is one person i've
00:42:57been looking for in linkedin and in social media because i wanted to go back to him and say thank
00:43:04you
00:43:04oh okay because i got my first career big break because of him because of him but i never had
00:43:11the
00:43:11chance to ever say thank you so that's why it's very remote that you would guess it i can't even
00:43:17find
00:43:18him in social media wow so hi ernie fritz if you're watching if this show reaches australia yeah i'm looking
00:43:29for you and i would have wanted to say thank you for the break that you allowed a young person
00:43:35like
00:43:35me no yeah yeah so okay i'm out of words continue yes so just like that it's something personal right
00:43:44that it's very like you're amazed but in the same time you are touched by the yeah so but that's
00:43:53the
00:43:53difference between and weird and a little bit weird like really okay okay continue okay so in
00:44:04in mentalism now i'm even more curious how important is psychology in general it's a hundred percent like
00:44:13it's a hundred percent without without telling me how you got into this resolution but what's the
00:44:19psychological element of it without telling me exactly how you did it um i'm just gonna say like
00:44:26psychology is the building block into getting into very like serious mentalism yeah it's just um just
00:44:38to cut the sentence short it's the building blocks of mentalism and yeah so again then what's kwanman
00:44:46how long normally does it take for that person to learn the trick this particular trick for example
00:44:57this particular trick so um this trick is actually a combination of a lot of concepts so instead of doing
00:45:05like practicing sleight of hand you can perfect sleight of hand and like um maximum of a week if you're
00:45:13a
00:45:13magician really yeah if you're a magician but um when doing or practicing mentalism you can't practice
00:45:21on a mirror or in a in front of a camera you need actual people to practice it so it's
00:45:28a trial and error
00:45:29it takes longer than um any kind of uh magic tricks to practice and now we can call the rest
00:45:36of our
00:45:36friends to join us back i'm also going to move oh okay you're going to move now that they're blocking
00:45:43so now um they're just passing me by now and like you can see them excuse excuse
00:45:52that's usually what happens when it's
00:45:58actually you did not say excuse i just saw you pass by the sorry sorry sorry my manners
00:46:06so before we close if i think i've already asked this in each one of you um and partly about
00:46:15because this is in the context of people in the audience and they also wish to be
00:46:19your students and they want to learn how to become better at it so what genre would you normally
00:46:29recommend as a starting point now should they start with bizarre should they start with mentalist or should
00:46:35they uh start with kind of up close or close up oh for me they can start with close up
00:46:42because uh close
00:46:44up works on everyday objects and cards so i suggest that on my end they practice that first because
00:46:51these guys are also uh tried being a close-up magician it's just that they have now their our niches
00:46:58so i became better on being a close-up magician they stopped on being a close-up magician and tried
00:47:02to do other things so i suggest close-up magician first so they can explore more and they'll know more
00:47:10what they want and what niche they want to interact with and then the next is either if you can
00:47:18also
00:47:18answer what's the biggest obstacle for a newbie like me for example or an aspiring magician like me
00:47:26what's usually the biggest obstacle that you would think you better have to do this to get past this
00:47:34obstacle um or a newbie um or aspiring magician so um i think this is a um a long problem
00:47:46in a magic uh
00:47:47magic scene so there's a lot of people willing to practice but there's small amount of people that
00:47:54willing to endure the the work do the work endure the um criticism and yeah um we actually like have
00:48:07new magicians right now and um as a mentor for all of them um i think it's good to have
00:48:15us as an
00:48:16inspiration and teachers for them so that they can like proceed and be the new generation of magicians
00:48:23here in cebu and the context of the question before i'll throw the the other question it's because
00:48:28if the audience would remember i would normally and that's why i'm your student it's because i see
00:48:35the relationship between magic and public speaking yeah i think you remember that and in case the audience
00:48:41did not catch it the last time they would always say that the most spontaneous public speakers are the
00:48:47most rehearsed and magic is the the a good picture of how it works because being spontaneous is essential
00:48:57to be a good magician otherwise if you're not spontaneous then i would be able to spot the trick
00:49:03but people don't exactly imagine the amount of work and time that you spend just for you to look
00:49:14spontaneous so if our audience miss death that also applies to public speaking the most spontaneous
00:49:21speakers and all irony of it are the most rehearsed so there's really work yeah true so how important
00:49:30is patience because earlier i was kidding no i was said now oh my gosh it would take me 10
00:49:35years
00:49:36yeah i want to do it tomorrow how important after after saying it needs work how important is patience also
00:49:45for a magician um yeah that's really a good question um especially when it comes to patience
00:49:53um uh because i started um like doing magic for like since i was young and then up until now
00:50:01i'm still
00:50:02um doing magic um um doing magic and still uh uh i'm gonna um practice and uh the real uh
00:50:17the reason why it's
00:50:18really important it is because if you don't have patience you will no longer have any um like dedication
00:50:27to um through the process yes or to um pass some maybe obstacles also you can also apply to that
00:50:38because um for example if you're doing a uh coin trick it will take like maybe
00:50:47probably five to seven years just to master a specific uh method and by the way i'm learning one yes
00:50:55okay yeah so yeah it's really easy to learn but uh mastering it really takes time um because if you
00:51:03don't have patience then you will try to explore another trick without mastering the other yes and after
00:51:12that if you keep on exploring other things without um practicing on the specific method
00:51:22um then you will end up being a um uh what do you call this probably a bad magician because
00:51:31you you keeps on um like
00:51:38uh moving from one trick to the other i think something like that um probably quality
00:51:43you know what i'm doing which is exactly what i'm doing after after that then you you move to another
00:52:01kuana said another um stuff so mawala ang kuans niya true
00:52:12so you really need to give effort and give a lot of patience just to master a specific trick
00:52:21on this craft and there was one question actually that i wanted to ask each of you but i forgot
00:52:26to ask
00:52:27and now i remember the but for somebody who is good has a good voice they go to voice lessons
00:52:34yes and then if
00:52:36they're uh they're uh good at body coordination they learn gymnastics for this one is they're a
00:52:43prerequisite gift that somebody needs to have in which in the same manner you would say oh
00:52:50sige magsinging kuanta magsing voice lesson ta kay nindut mang kamo kanta to begin with no
00:52:55no di man tamuha di man tamu dawa tong tone deaf
00:52:58di ba meaning di ba or kanang iang coordination kanang poor you know there are people who are poor
00:53:04with coordination na ang ang beat kay muragga ana ana hindi siya mo ni beat yan na siya
00:53:08din so very hard for him or her to also uh master dancing or gymnastics for example for
00:53:16magician is there a gift that i need to have as a prerequisite or this is free for all
00:53:23for me it's a free for all it anyone can learn i mean you learned it right and the way
00:53:30you look
00:53:43it's free for all but i think it's usually the same with any like body coordination dancing and
00:53:53singing it always starts with curiosity and it connects with the thing that is saying it's
00:53:58patience because on anything you practice or thing you want to dwell on like for example you have good
00:54:04voice go to singing it's just a suggestion but at the end of the day it's your curiosity will lead
00:54:10you
00:54:10to that kind of thing like people are there to help you because they're drawn towards it drawn towards
00:54:16it and we have also magicians who are supportive of their parents when they see their kid like when
00:54:23i was very young practicing doing magic the parent itself buy some magic books or hire us to be their
00:54:30magic teacher for workshop so it usually happens most of the time uh the people message us because their
00:54:36kid is drawn to doing magic tricks so i think that's the thing for it it's free for all but
00:54:42again and
00:54:43again it just starts with curiosity yeah just the right attitude which by the way before you perform
00:54:49because i know that you're going to do something something something something but um before we we
00:54:56close so that is the same with public speaking also it's for everybody but you need to be have the
00:55:03right attitude and the motivation no so there's no prerequisite except having a curious mind
00:55:12the patience put and the willingness to learn yes and relearn so i know that you're supposed to have
00:55:20a surprise so we're now at this point yeah so well actually we we need one prop and it's not
00:55:26on our
00:55:27hands right now i cannot levitate it for now because it's low but so can i please nice i'll get
00:55:33the
00:55:34the tape now we're magicians though so this is a proof no that that that that that that this is
00:55:47live
00:55:48and unedited and scripted at all so now i'm going to decide where nice else should pass so because i'm
00:55:56the
00:55:56one in the camp oh he really blocked so he really blocked the line of science but now we know
00:56:03it's
00:56:04again now let's do this so now the intro we're going to do is this is uh we call this
00:56:09a cabaret or a
00:56:10parlor kind of trick yeah it's new so parlor like parlor games or parlor yeah more more close to that
00:56:17parlor games it's a parlor magic trick or like cabaret it's a sort of
00:56:22smaller group of people this works on cafes and who's having like events on shows so what we do
00:56:28because usually cafes have a limited seating capacity like 30 persons so we do this kind of
00:56:33shows for people who are really interested in magic so we're going to show you what we usually perform
00:56:39and there are for example people here sitting down and then uh watching us like they pay for tickets and
00:56:45everything so this is this is a different thing on kids magician because on this one uh
00:56:51adults do tricks for adults so yeah so now we're gonna like so this is for adults only
00:56:59so we're gonna stand up mm-hmm and i think i'm gonna work with your mic should i start or
00:57:04you can just
00:57:05like sit down okay it's fine because you're our special i don't know we're the special guests sorry
00:57:13so yeah so first thing is here um i'm gonna start with nice on this one so we have a
00:57:20deck of cards you
00:57:21can shuffle it while waiting okay and then what uh just for the audience to know you can just like
00:57:26face why do i have a feeling that i'm going to be god no no no yeah okay the the
00:57:33magic factor is now
00:57:34gone uh oh no i'm just kidding now what i'm gonna do is like i'm gonna cover this guy's eye
00:57:40okay yeah
00:57:41because you know uh for me mentalism is a good thing but the site is very uh very strong
00:57:49edge of being a mentalist because he can see what you're thinking about right okay speaking of body
00:57:54language so yeah let's remove the body language yeah remove the body language on this guy so yeah
00:58:00this guy him right so how i'm doing it's a real one that's why we bought this in a supply
00:58:07store
00:58:10nearby supply store i'm just gonna like like that just to be sure now it's i discovered
00:58:16i think are you keeping my friend like that okay one is enough
00:58:23like that yeah cool right okay cool right yeah and on this guy the bizarre guy
00:58:33he has eyes but i think i'm just gonna cover his mouth not me though okay only him
00:58:42so yeah it's good thing you did not do that to me
00:58:51yeah and more yep now as you can see or maybe the camera can see these guys are now held
00:58:59host
00:58:59actually the audience can even see the light
00:59:04so yeah this is the proof this is uh unscripted yeah yeah and now you shuffling the cars are you
00:59:08done chuffling yeah yeah yeah yeah can you just like put it first on the table okay yeah and then
00:59:14okay it's so unfair i'm clumsy it's you they can read it now it's fine and it's so unfair that
00:59:23they have this thing so can you do the honors on are you yes okay really yes see yeah so
00:59:32i'll stand up
00:59:33also so which one wrist yeah yeah wow yeah is it real it looks it it looks real and then
00:59:44i can cut
00:59:45this now yeah you can cut it you can add more if you want yeah okay see yeah now we
00:59:50can this is the
00:59:51time that pulls for the camera oh you can see the camera i'm sorry okay so yeah it's the time
00:59:56to show
00:59:56this this this could be a good thumbnail yeah all right so now uh as magicians uh this is the
01:00:03hard
01:00:03part right now because i can't handle the cards so what will i do with the card so can you
01:00:08just like
01:00:09cut it cut it yeah yeah yeah right there so now as you can see this guy is like the
01:00:19slight of vice is
01:00:19gone the slight of mouth is gone and the slight of hands is limited right so you can just like
01:00:24put this
01:00:24into my hands okay yep and as you can see i'm having a hard time controlling these cards and
01:00:30everything yeah just to make sure for the audience to see that i didn't cheat i don't know where the
01:00:37camera is but yeah i think you can see that all the cards are different right okay all the cards
01:00:45are
01:00:45working on it yeah yeah yeah all the cards are different yeah cool okay yeah so typically we invite
01:00:52an audience here when we do this um type of show so what you're gonna do is i'm gonna shuffle
01:00:58it and
01:00:59as you can see we when i have my uh hands on the duct tape we shuffle the same like
01:01:07a beginner
01:01:08um so what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna shuffle it one by one and just say stop wherever you're
01:01:15like
01:01:16okay let's see here stop sure okay now i want you to remember the card
01:01:22i'll get to get on the cover cover i'll get it and then show it to them yeah you can
01:01:27get it and show
01:01:28it to them okay but i think yes okay okay okay so yep you guessed it right and the thing
01:01:41is i'm very
01:01:42nervous on guessing your card again basing from what i did first and did some information and yeah i'm
01:01:48a good close-up magician but this job is not now on my end it's with a mentalist okay and
01:01:54now the
01:01:54mentalist will read your mind and i think yeah you can see it on there okay there okay and it's
01:02:02your
01:02:02time to shine okay so i'm gonna ask some questions but right now for example i say
01:02:15your card is red or black so what to bagra sir come come true or false no really if red
01:02:22or black
01:02:23you can use red or it's a lie so it depends on you if you lie or tell the truth
01:02:33okay okay so
01:02:38your card is red
01:02:42i can lie no yeah yes
01:02:49when you ask you can lie when you ask you can lie you lie so it's a black card
01:02:52i think it's very obvious even though on the back you can see okay um it's a black card okay
01:03:00all right um it's a spade
01:03:11so so so you laugh so it i think it's truth
01:03:16even though you do okay okay so it's actually a very low card am i right no yeah it's a
01:03:25low card
01:03:29hmm it's not the three not the two either
01:03:36can you say four like say the word yeah four um five five ace ace i think your card is
01:03:48ace of spades
01:03:51i can confirm or not yeah you can confirm oh sorry i can't see anything yes yes it is ace
01:03:58of spades
01:03:58a round of applause to our mentalists okay and now the thing is what what's the thing that this
01:04:07guy been doing yeah as you know this guy been like here for like performing tricks like i can say
01:04:15the
01:04:15tricks like bizarre we're using his mouth bizarre using his mouth so why don't you show me something
01:04:37that's it yourself man i think yay it is the ace of spades oh okay yes we are the cibu
01:04:52magicians
01:04:52association and that is our card trick okay and then i will not remove that and then
01:04:59so that's that's an example of what we can do for
01:05:08thank you so much and this guy dude you're fine man
01:05:15wow wow oh that's bright
01:05:21that's right so um
01:05:27so here so before we close you know and i know that you have already answered this in separate
01:05:34occasions but uh what occasions are perfect no because i think that's how we open the show that
01:05:40largely i either i pay for the show or i see this in kitty parties but what are kind of
01:05:49events that
01:05:50are perfect now for magic so events that are perfect for magic saying it it's on everything is broad so
01:05:58i'll be i'll make it specific uh corporate events and uh business forums weddings family gatherings
01:06:08um dinners like family dinners reunion because um i can say this um any event that there's people
01:06:18who are interested to have a new kind of entertainment because
01:06:23having a band singing is nice violin instrument is nice true but having a magician on your event like
01:06:31close-up magician mentalist and a bizarre magician is a new thing well technically not new but we can
01:06:38give a new kind of entertainment it's innovative yeah innovative so we're performing already for
01:06:45corporate events so that's why i can say it and also on weddings yeah you'll be surprised
01:06:51then how many wedding events that we are invited to so we perform on that kind of event so that's
01:06:57what i
01:06:57can say corporate events business forum um family gatherings christmas party halloween party and yeah
01:07:07all types of events technically all types of events as long as there are people yeah that can be engaged
01:07:13you can also add brand collaboration yeah yeah oh yeah we also do brand collaborations so
01:07:19we recently work with uh vape shop and endorse them by using magic and we gain positive response from
01:07:31the customers and also to the people who are watching it on social media we also work with uh different
01:07:35cafes uh cafes right now are having community projects like from uh shows or product launches product
01:07:44launches yeah new beverages and yeah we work on almost anything and the reason why i was holding
01:07:54this because maybe our friends from coffee first yeah coffee first are watching or our friends in beko
01:08:01so i was thinking for those of our audience who wish to experience more of your magic where and how
01:08:06will they
01:08:07get in touch with you um our main social media platform is on facebook they can search it the cebu
01:08:15magicians association and then they can see our uh gmail which is uh same the cebu magicians association
01:08:24at gmail.com right so they can contact us there now i'm saying like this one because that's a good
01:08:30combo
01:08:30right yeah i know yeah yeah so so that's our main platform it's gmail and then yahoo yeah
01:08:37they can they can uh contact us on those stuff like shows events that like we've mentioned before
01:08:45on all kind of things and also i'm not saying this that we are just um like magicians who perform
01:08:52for adults we also have available kids magician just saying we're just like endorsing this because
01:08:58this is not really that known here in cebu but we do also have magicians for kids and for workshops
01:09:04you can shout out to arc project yeah yeah so they're the one who uh is our partner when it
01:09:11comes to
01:09:11workshops actually i can imagine workshops for during team building yeah yes yeah so how was it like
01:09:18learning you yourself right you've been uh focused so yeah for workshops you can message us or you can
01:09:24message our project if you want to collaborate with us but you can either or you can message us
01:09:29directly so again that's the cebu magicians association you can contact us there and then
01:09:34let's make magic happen yes so thank you very much for joining us once again looking forward to another
01:09:41halloween episode probably and and and and we're already ready yeah and thank you for sharing your
01:09:48expertise and surprising us once again yeah thank you so much thank you thank you so magic is more
01:09:56than just magic is more than just tricks it's about skill creativity storytelling as you can see
01:10:04psychology and most of all creating a moment of wonder that people remember so if you're planning for
01:10:13a party corporate event celebration or any occasion where you want to give your guests an experience
01:10:18they'll be talking about long after the event you now know where and how to find them so i'm dj
01:10:25moisa
01:10:26shout out to coffee first for supporting conversations that matter this is beyond the headlines let's
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