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00:55Good afternoon and welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
00:57I'm DJ Moises, and today's conversation is brought to us by Coffee First.
01:02Today, look deeper and think into a world where we may see or may not be able to see what
01:11is actually happening, just like what just happened.
01:15Joining us are three performers from the Cebu Magicians Association, who each specialize in a different branch of magical arts.
01:23We have Marvin Cabanes, known for coin magic and bizarre magic.
01:29We have Naisel Quezon, who explores the fascinating world of mentalism and hypnosis.
01:35And we also have J.B. Tagaan, a close-up magician and also a hypnotist.
01:40So, we have Marvin Naisel, J.B. Welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
01:47Hello.
01:52Maybe you want to give a shout out to your friends from the Cebu Magicians Association who are watching.
02:01Ikaw, President.
02:02Oh, yeah. Shout out to my kuanday.
02:05Anong mga ka-uban and members.
02:09Silang Mark, silang Jan Ace, silang...
02:14I think Dagkan, Dagkan, J.B.
02:15May need to mention silang Gerard.
02:17Hello, Mark, Jan Ace, Gerard.
02:19Silang J.B. Dagkan.
02:21Dagkan sila, Dagkan.
02:22Too many to mention.
02:23So, this is an interesting conversation for myself and also our viewers because this is a time in which what
02:32we see is not exactly what's happening.
02:35So, because since all of you are experts in the field, some of the viewers might be asking,
02:45at what point in your life, or your age, when you started with magic?
02:56Who first?
02:57Okay, silence.
02:58I think it's a trick.
03:00Okay.
03:01Sige, Marvin, Marvin, go.
03:03Actually, nag-started yung magic when I was, I think, around seven or eight years old.
03:12So, I was interested because there was, like, one person who showed it to me.
03:20He was actually studying in METC.
03:26So, he showed me one trick.
03:29And then, after that, I was really impressed and was shocked.
03:34So, after that, kanang, kuwan nyo kayo.
03:36Kanang, sige, nag-balik-balik sa akong mind ba nga.
03:39Giyon saman to, kanang, nganong ina to.
03:42So, nag-anggay ko mura sa puzzle, gani nga.
03:44Unsay, like, a reason, nganong na ina to.
03:47So, ina na.
03:48So, motto, nag-start na kong research and start practicing.
03:54And, yeah, motto, na ito na nag-start akong journey sa, kuwan, doing tricks and as a magician.
04:00So, seven or eight.
04:01Ikaw, Naisel?
04:04For me, I'm not sure how old I am at that time.
04:07But, it's around, I started around 2012.
04:11Kaya ako sa taga-bantayan man ko.
04:13And then, school ako daryo, college.
04:18And then, na ako sa boarding house with, it's just an empty house and me.
04:23And, out of boredom, katong nga time, wala pa may wifi or dugay na kayo paminakon ba?
04:30Medyo.
04:31Murg, maguwang pa ka na ako.
04:34And then, there's a, sa kong gi, puyan nga balay, sa akong aunt, na i-book with magic.
04:43And then, out of boredom, I browse it and learn some, first of all, mga coin tricks.
04:50Maunang, sugod na ako ng mga tricks.
04:52And then, I met Marvin in a magic shop in Emol.
04:57So, there is a shop.
04:58Continue.
04:59Okay.
04:59There is a, but, moto, then nag-start me, then ni-sold me ka ng group with JV.
05:08And then, that's how all it is.
05:12So, you were, more or less, college, no?
05:15Yeah, college.
05:16And then, for JV?
05:18I started at eight years old.
05:20Then, I just, almost the same with Marvin.
05:22So, my classmate doing some magic tricks.
05:25And then, I was amazed and also angry because I don't know how to do it myself.
05:29So, I'm trying to be competitive on my end and be better than him.
05:33And then, shout out to my classmate.
05:35Look at me now, man.
05:38So, kanang, when you decided to pursue this, ba?
05:43There are certain skeptics, man said.
05:46So, any of you can answer.
05:48Did your family in the onset supported this?
05:56More like, sentimental song na ni.
06:02I think I'm just going to start.
06:06So, on my part, I grew up on my Lolo and Lola.
06:13So, you know, our Lolas and Lola, they're very superstitious.
06:17And the first trick that I showed them is a floating card.
06:23So, there's a card and you're going to spin it and it floats in the air.
06:27Then, I think I'm going to forget this to my Lolo.
06:31I'm not going to be a big time.
06:33I'm not going to be a big time.
06:34I'm not going to be a big time.
06:37There's no smile.
06:38Well, I smile.
06:39Well, I words.
06:40But, I'm not going to be a big time.
06:41It's a big time.
06:43And then, going forward,
06:48they already supported me.
06:49There's a time that ma-feature me sa somewhere or na aming mga show.
06:59Then, supported sila sa Akoa ang fan of time.
07:03Ikaw, Marvin.
07:04So, Akoa is, like, I think my family is, they are the first.
07:10Audiences good.
07:11If I learn something or a trick,
07:15atun ako ipakita nila.
07:16So, atun ako maku-an if, kanang good ba ni siya nga trick or anna.
07:20Because, um,
07:22katong first is,
07:23makita pa sa Akoa ang mama nga,
07:26ah, ginanim na ni mo.
07:28So, the more nga akong gi,
07:30kuag mayo, gi-pursue,
07:32na-a-time nga,
07:34di na siya kasakok.
07:35So, atun ako na,
07:36koan nga,
07:37aga ni mo rag,
07:38sakto na niya akong gibuhat.
07:39So, after nasa,
07:40sige na akong learn,
07:42palitog mga new props.
07:46Atun na, kuag mayo nga,
07:48kaya nga nga mga magisyon,
07:49di na niya akong bata.
07:50So, motto, sige na siya ag-support.
07:52Sa kaya ganin,
07:52mukuyo yun sa akong mga show,
07:54sa mga mall shows,
07:55mananaw na sila.
07:56Sige sila ag-video,
07:57proud mo, sige post, share.
07:59So, na, na, naka-proud akong families ako, ah.
08:03And, JB?
08:04And, on my end,
08:06um,
08:07supportive sa,
08:08pagsugod yun kay,
08:10ka na, obsessive man kayo na bata,
08:12ba, sige rin ako practice.
08:13So, mana ko mama na,
08:15pag una, maka-feel ko,
08:16tinunan na,
08:16kung makadungo mo siya na,
08:17maa siya na,
08:18na, makaimong kalibutan eh,
08:19I mean, tinunan man sa,
08:21so, wala aran siya,
08:23so, ana,
08:23pero wala aran kung nagmayan na to,
08:24like, karo na aran ako,
08:25pag-askin mo sa question,
08:26kung nakahuna,
08:27abita, ano, na,
08:27na, ano, dito pagsugod.
08:28Then, after ana,
08:30wakamayad,
08:30jahe mga gigu ko,
08:31sigigig magic,
08:32sigperform,
08:33yam,
08:33wad to jugog mga meetup sa event
08:35sa magic na community.
08:37Ako mama,
08:37way choice.
08:38Then, mo na aran,
08:39yan ang bali na,
08:40manghambog na siya.
08:41Ako na siya mingun na,
08:41ah, sige,
08:42okay, run.
08:43And, because,
08:44all three of them,
08:46will also,
08:47demo their expertise,
08:49no?
08:49But before that,
08:50na, curious lang ko,
08:51was there a time
08:53when you're starting,
08:55na,
08:56wala ni work
08:57ang inyong trick?
09:00Any of you can answer?
09:02Semen.
09:03Or perfect gin mo,
09:04since that's not.
09:05Ako pagsugod.
09:07Sa ako ah,
09:08is wala ni work ang,
09:10trick,
09:10I mean,
09:11pagsugod sa practice,
09:12ka na siguro.
09:13Pero wala ka na kasway nga,
09:15live performance,
09:16and the trick did not work.
09:17Yes,
09:18we,
09:18I mean,
09:19wala siya.
09:20Ako kay,
09:21actually,
09:22nagkuyog miya to,
09:24like,
09:26first few months,
09:27nga,
09:28nagsugod-sugod mi sa magic.
09:30Kaming kahilig kayo
09:31may magstreet magic
09:32atong nga time.
09:33Muad to mi sa mga mall,
09:34then,
09:35kaya na ganin mo,
09:35David Blaine style nga,
09:37excuse me,
09:37can I perform magic to you guys?
09:39May nana apagit,
09:40pero ka na mga yagit pa kayo,
09:42mga naong ba?
09:44And then,
09:44um,
09:45there's a trick when
09:46you
09:48make a spectator
09:49choose one card,
09:50okay,
09:51then,
09:51sign na niya,
09:53is shuffle ang card,
09:54then,
09:55I will get two jokers,
09:57and that,
09:57um,
09:59the trick was,
10:00if,
10:01um,
10:01if I throw the card here,
10:03the whole deck will,
10:05um,
10:05like,
10:05transfer on my left hand,
10:07and then,
10:07your selected card will be sandwiched
10:09into the two jokers.
10:11Karun kay,
10:13ambot on say,
10:14nakaona ako nga tong nga time,
10:15perform ko nga di,
10:16pan ako master.
10:17Pag anana ako,
10:19pag,
10:20nagsambuwag ang deck dito sa unahan.
10:22Pero nakao kailang card.
10:24So,
10:24mauto,
10:25anana ako nga,
10:25is this your card?
10:27Nga nalipay sad sila niya.
10:28After atong lakao sila,
10:29happy kayo sila,
10:30kami nga to na,
10:30munit sa mga kato.
10:33Mauto ako,
10:34ano,
10:34like,
10:35embarrassing moment.
10:36But I think,
10:37no,
10:37before we go into the demonstration,
10:39we also had ka nang
10:40a side discussion earlier ba?
10:42But I think,
10:43the reason why it rarely happens
10:45na during a performance,
10:47murag na'y mishap,
10:48it's also because of the amount
10:50of work,
10:51that's also being done
10:53before it actually gets presented
10:56to human beings like me.
11:00So,
11:00that said,
11:01I think we'll have to
11:02start on each one of you
11:05because
11:05tag sa tag sa ninyo na
11:07may specialization.
11:09So,
11:09for our viewers,
11:11we will start with
11:12Marvin here.
11:13And he will
11:14speak to us
11:16and also
11:16demonstrate to us
11:18kanyang coin magic
11:20and
11:20bizarre
11:21magic.
11:23So,
11:24sige,
11:25murag mo i-vac?
11:26Sige.
11:27Okay.
11:27Sorry, man.
11:29Okay.
11:29Sige,
11:30so for Marvin,
11:31tell us,
11:31what is coin magic
11:33and
11:33bizarre
11:34magic?
11:39coin magic?
11:43Inanin siya pag-explain.
11:45Coin magic is like
11:47everyday object.
11:48so,
11:49you will
11:50like borrow
11:51any coin
11:53and then
11:53manipulate it
11:54so you can
11:56make it vanish,
11:58reappear
11:59somewhere
11:59and
12:01for
12:02bizarre
12:03magic,
12:04it's like
12:05an effect
12:06or a trick
12:06nga
12:07extraordinary.
12:09So,
12:10it's like
12:10very impossible
12:11siya.
12:13And,
12:14sige,
12:14to give our viewers
12:16tell and
12:17show.
12:18Okay,
12:19interest,
12:21yeah,
12:21what he said,
12:22what's interesting
12:22about the coin magic
12:23is very small
12:24object,
12:24pero
12:25it looks like
12:27it truly
12:28is magic.
12:29So,
12:29can you show us
12:29one trick
12:30for example?
12:32Sige,
12:32I'll stand up.
12:34Sige.
12:35And then
12:37here's an example.
12:38So,
12:39before we start,
12:41I'll try to
12:42like
12:43get an
12:44imaginary
12:45coin here
12:46and then
12:47place it
12:48on my hand.
12:49But
12:50my hand
12:50is empty
12:51so you can
12:52get the
12:54imaginary
12:54coin
12:55and place
12:55it there
12:57and then
12:58all you have
12:58to do
12:58is just
12:59imagine
13:01that
13:03it becomes
13:04here.
13:08Okay.
13:11Okay.
13:12the other coin
13:13is
13:15very
13:16you need
13:18to be
13:19skilled
13:20to perform
13:21in the coin
13:22since
13:23I've been
13:24practicing
13:24coins for
13:25like
13:25six to five
13:26years
13:26so I know
13:28how to
13:28handle
13:30and
13:30manipulate
13:31so for
13:32example
13:32if
13:32this coin
13:34if I'll
13:35transfer
13:35it
13:35here
13:38nakita
13:39ni
13:39masura
13:39nga
13:39ni
13:39sakas
13:40sa taas
13:40wala
13:43oh
13:45I'll do it
13:47again
13:47so
13:48coin
13:49tandra
13:51wow
13:54wow
13:55pero
13:56ako
13:57yung nga
13:57makaig ko
13:59sila
13:59ay
13:59naman
13:59na
13:59ikuan
14:00kanang
14:00nitrate
14:01so
14:02moto
14:02ato
14:02na kumingon
14:03nga
14:03actually
14:04makita
14:04niyo
14:04siya
14:05na
14:05masaka
14:05so
14:06inani
14:07ang
14:07sikrito
14:08first
14:09time
14:09din ako
14:09i-show
14:09the ring
14:11so
14:12inani
14:13ang
14:13netabo
14:13so
14:14i-transfer
14:14sa coin
14:15na
14:16inani
14:16ang
14:16metabo
14:18muna
14:18pinaka
14:19super
14:19slow
14:19motion
14:21so
14:21from
14:21this
14:22hand
14:22tanawa
14:22inani
14:23akong
14:23give up
14:25pora
14:26na siyang
14:26i-book
14:26lang
14:26the ring
14:29tasa
14:29kong
14:29kamot
14:31pora
14:31na siyang
14:32i-transfer
14:34pa
14:34do
14:36sa
14:37taas
14:41moto
14:41explanation
14:43although
14:44i did
14:44not
14:44see
14:44it
14:45paspas
14:45kayo
14:46pero
14:46atong
14:46i-slow
14:47move
14:47atong
14:48i-adjust
14:49ang
14:49ko
14:49anako
14:52time
14:53tanawa
14:53so
14:53after
14:54transfer
14:54na
14:54yan
14:56yani
14:56metabo
14:58musak
14:58ka
14:58ganin
15:00wow
15:00i saw
15:01it
15:01kato
15:02moto
15:02explanation
15:03ano
15:03musak
15:04ka
15:09how long
15:11does it
15:11normally
15:12take
15:13for a
15:14person
15:14like
15:15me
15:16to
15:16actually
15:17be able
15:18to perform
15:18a magic
15:19such as
15:20that
15:20for
15:21actually
15:23for a
15:24specific
15:25trick
15:26you need
15:27to have
15:27a
15:28fundamentals
15:30so
15:32before
15:33ni mo siya
15:33ma-achieve
15:34i-mustan na siyang
15:34praktisan ka
15:35ng
15:35specific
15:36na
15:37method
15:38para
15:39ma-perform
15:39trick
15:41so
15:41probably
15:42it will
15:43take
15:43like
15:452-3
15:46years
15:46for
15:47for me
15:48because
15:49simple siya
15:50ma-learn
15:51pero
15:52ang pag-master
15:53it will
15:55take
15:55time
15:55correct me
15:57if
15:57i'm
15:57wrong
15:57the
15:58technique
15:59is also
16:00part
16:00on the
16:01movement
16:02and
16:02how
16:03smooth
16:03the
16:04movement
16:04is
16:05the
16:05more
16:05it's
16:06also
16:06effective
16:07yes
16:08and also
16:09just to
16:10add
16:10you also
16:11need
16:11to
16:11believe
16:11na
16:12inani
16:13ang
16:13may
16:13tabok
16:14kay
16:15para
16:15mas
16:16magical
16:16gudsi
16:16atanawan
16:17and by
16:18the way
16:18that's
16:18a good
16:19point
16:19earlier
16:19we
16:19talked
16:20about
16:20kanang
16:21parallelism
16:22ba
16:22kanang
16:22public
16:23speaking
16:23o kanang
16:24magic
16:24the reason
16:25why
16:25there's
16:26the element
16:26of
16:27preparation
16:27yes
16:28because
16:28ang
16:29performance
16:29mango
16:30there's
16:30a transfer
16:30of
16:30energy
16:31so
16:32if
16:32ikaw
16:32mismo
16:33you
16:33don't
16:33believe
16:34in
16:34the
16:34trick
16:34the
16:35audience
16:35will
16:36feel
16:36it
16:36also
16:37yes
16:37that's
16:37correct
16:37so
16:38yeah
16:39mauro
16:39to
16:39siya
16:40ang
16:40mga
16:42basic
16:42na
16:42kluan
16:43para
16:43maachieve
16:44din yung
16:44mga
16:44specific
16:45na
16:45like
16:45effect
16:46or
16:46trick
16:46sige
16:47let's
16:47move
16:47to
16:47the
16:48bizarre
16:49magic
16:49for
16:50bizarre
16:50actually
16:51extraordinary
16:53ka na
16:53siya
16:55I'll
16:55try
16:56to
16:56demonstrate
16:56using
16:58a
16:59tic
16:59tat
16:59I think
17:00familiar
17:00masiguro
17:01tatanan
17:01sa tic
17:01tac
17:01di ba
17:02mamaling
17:02mag
17:02sayo
17:02sayo
17:02tic
17:03tac
17:03like
17:04na siya
17:04pero
17:05actually
17:06iopen
17:07naman sir
17:08mga
17:09buta
17:09naman
17:11siguro
17:12so
17:12and just
17:14to prove
17:15real
17:15siya
17:16piden
17:16mo
17:16sya
17:16kwa
17:16on
17:19piden
17:19mo
17:19kan
17:19on
17:20sure
17:21so
17:21i'mo
17:22syang
17:22kan
17:23on
17:23na
17:23na
17:24na
17:24so
17:27i'll start
17:28dewa makita
17:30tic
17:31tac
17:32watch
17:38Ah.
18:06Ah.
18:06So, I don't know if ma- ma-feel ni Moodre, sir.
18:10Okay, palil do yung touch on the right hand.
18:12So, mara siya kahit.
18:13Mmm.
18:14And then, from there, try to.
18:17Umpis again.
18:22Ah.
18:25Palil ko ba na si Moodre.
18:28Ah.
18:31Watch.
18:36Oh my gosh.
18:41Sorry, di laugh ko.
18:45Yeah, that's bizarre.
18:47It's bizarre, correct, correct, correct.
18:50Sige, ang question ako is, is, for the lack of better term hand,
18:55then you can correct me also kung wrong akong term.
19:00Is that a skill?
19:02Or is that, is magic a gift?
19:07Um, for me, normally maka-ingonsad sila nga.
19:11O saka, stunt.
19:13Pero katong na stunt, pwede na mo siya i-combine as magic.
19:18So, narasigura na sa center.
19:20So, either tanaw ni mo trick or stunt.
19:23Sige.
19:24And then, ikaw, how do you, i-combine ni mo ang...
19:27Ah.
19:28Ang specific na stunt.
19:30When you say stunt, it means...
19:32Nakuya idea, but I just wanted to confirm.
19:34When you say stunt, it means performance?
19:37Um, same nagyapon siyag koan, siguro.
19:39Ah, like, take po nagyapon siyag time to practice.
19:43Mmm.
19:44Kaya, dangerous akong ngon siya.
19:46Nakuya.
19:46Kato, looks like.
19:50Sige.
19:51Sige.
19:51So, sige.
19:52Before we move to the next, napakailaing sample?
19:55Amurag.
19:56Katura.
19:56Katura.
19:57Okay, sige, for now.
19:57Yes, for now.
19:58Because we will still have more parts of this.
20:01Hindi niya makatulog.
20:02Actually eh.
20:04After aning episode, I will ask you how you did it.
20:07But anyway, thank you very much.
20:10Marvino.
20:11So, that's a sample of a coin magic.
20:14Nagkaun ako.
20:16Kasi magawas ni din eh.
20:17And the bizarre magic.
20:20So, now we'll move to Nysel.
20:22Which is also interesting for our viewers.
20:26Because Nysel is into mentalism and also hypnosis.
20:34So, I think we'll start with mentalism, no?
20:38Yeah.
20:38Sige.
20:39So, before we proceed to that show na part, can you walk me through, as well as our viewers, what
20:48does mentalism actually mean?
20:52Sige.
20:53Okay.
20:54Okay.
20:56Mentalism is actually a, in layman's terms, we call it mind magic.
21:03Hmm.
21:04So, basically we predict or influence you on doing something or predict something out of your body language, how you
21:15speak, how you blink.
21:19Basically.
21:20Hindi na ako mo blink.
21:21Okay.
21:21Continue.
21:21Then.
21:22Mauna siya ang mentalism.
21:25And also, there's a branch of it.
21:27It's called hypnosis.
21:29Hmm.
21:29Most of the people are watching are maybe familiar with the term.
21:34Um, we all, um, we do it in a, like, performative way.
21:41Hmm.
21:42Like, um, basic example ka ng, dilini mo ma, mabuwag mo ang kamot, makalimot ka sa iyong name, di ka
21:50kabarog sa iyong gilingkuran.
21:51Mauna siya ang mga entertainment side sa hypnosis.
21:54Hmm.
21:54Um, yeah.
21:55And then, sige, before we go into the tell part, earlier kay si Marvin showed katong Bizarre and Coin, no?
22:03For people like me, who's aspiring, no?
22:07To be as, as good, no?
22:10Or nearly as good as all three of you ba?
22:15Kayanang, kalimot ko.
22:17Is there, should I focus on just one field for the, or domain for the lack of a better word?
22:24Or I can also go across and master, no?
22:28Kayanang coin and Bizarre and then I can also do mentalism and hypnosis.
22:34Can I, is that a realistic expectation?
22:37Um, that's a very great question.
22:40Hmm.
22:40And also, it's realistic, but, um, have you heard of the phrase, um, Jack of all trades?
22:51Ah!
22:51Master of a-
22:52This is like a literal-
22:54Yeah.
22:54Literal relation of that.
22:55Literal relation of that.
22:56Okay.
22:56Because, um, for example, um, I started as a close-up magician.
23:02Hmm.
23:02And after like five, six years, I switched to mentalism because I wanted to study the,
23:10um, I was intrigued by the idea of mentalism.
23:13Mm-hmm.
23:14And then, up until now, I was studying this year.
23:17So,
23:17the time span is higher.
23:19The time span is going to be, um,
23:21to be able to, um,
23:25to be able to, um,
23:26to be able to do it because, um,
23:27it's a little bit of work.
23:29But, yeah.
23:30It's possible, but, um,
23:32it would take so much time, no?
23:36Yeah.
23:36So, you're saying, for example, for people like me, it's possible to do that.
23:42Pero, if I really want to be as good as you are, it's best that I will just focus on
23:48one and then work on it.
23:50Okay.
23:50Okay.
23:50Now, let's have a sample of a,
23:53what is it called?
23:54Mentalism?
23:55Um, yeah.
23:56It's mentalism.
23:57Okay.
23:57Mentalism.
23:58Let's have a sample of how it works.
24:00So, I'm just going to go with basic, um, like, um, this is what we call ESP cards.
24:09So, there's, um, two sets.
24:12One's for me and one's for you.
24:14Okay.
24:14Okay.
24:15So, um, I want you to look at the cards.
24:20Okay.
24:21Look at this.
24:21Spread like this.
24:23And then, look, um,
24:25Tanawa na ko akong card.
24:26Ah, tanawa ang cards.
24:27Mm-hmm.
24:28And then, get one card.
24:33Make sure nga ikaw lamakita, sir.
24:34Mm-hmm.
24:35Get one card nga, feel nyo mo best nag-represent sa'yo mo ang self.
24:38And then, put it on the table like this.
24:41Yes, nag-represent.
24:41Ah, okay.
24:43Okay.
24:43Nakatawa ko.
24:45Sige, sige.
24:46Okay, okay, okay.
24:47Okay, okay, okay.
24:48Okay, ganito.
24:48Ang pwede rin mo i-tabunan sa'yo mga hand.
24:50Ang kanin?
24:51Ah, ang card.
24:52Okay.
24:54So, um, these cards actually represent on, um, on what is your, like, unsa kang klaseng apagatao.
25:05So, for example, my first impression to you, sir, um, is like, if you're in a big crowd, you want
25:15to stand out.
25:16Agoy.
25:16Right.
25:17And then, ka nang, di li ka ganahan nga, nga ma-apil sa ma ganahan d'yon ka nga, ikaw
25:26ang mo shine.
25:26So, I think, based sa'yo mga ang pagkitaan ni mo, you choose the star.
25:32Am I right?
25:33Correct.
25:34Agoy!
25:35Correct.
25:36Yes.
25:38So, maunin siya ang, um, ones of the, uh, one of the basics na, um, um, there's a, if, um,
25:44if na is skeptic, anin, there's, um, 20% chance na matagaan ako yung mga card.
25:48So, let's up the ante further.
25:52Okay, let's take it.
25:54The sound, okay.
25:57Okay, sir.
25:59Karan, I want you to close your eyes.
26:01Okay.
26:03This is like deja vu.
26:05It's like you've done this before, but think of someone, dead or alive,
26:15that's what you're doing to be featured in the podcast.
26:19You're going to interview her or talk.
26:23Nana, sir?
26:24Nana, yes.
26:25Okay, good.
26:28So, open your eyes.
26:31Okay.
26:33Think of a name.
26:35Like, for example, that name is Naadri.
26:36It's a teleprompter.
26:38It's a name.
26:39Okay.
26:40So, Naadri, the name is Naadri.
26:42It's high.
26:43It's a name.
26:44Yes.
26:45I think, pag-ana-ana ko,
26:48makita po sa viewers na siya.
26:49Pag-ana ko,
26:50ni-tan ako ka first, oog second.
26:52So, do ka ka name.
26:53Okay.
26:54Am I right?
26:55Yes.
26:55Okay, getting closer.
26:56Okay, so.
26:59Okay.
27:05Then, second name, I want you to read it in your mind only.
27:09Okay.
27:10Okay.
27:11Okay, I think it starts with A.
27:14B, C, B.
27:15Oh, you smile.
27:16Kita mo ata, di ba?
27:17So, okay.
27:26So, I wrote down something or someone in here.
27:31Just to clarify, before this day, wala man tanag story, like, then wala po sila kabalo ang cameraman or anyone
27:40about sa kanini mong ipili.
27:42So, this is free choice.
27:44Hmm.
27:45So, mo ingon mong ang lagang gasulat, wala na siya blank na siya.
27:48Oh, okay.
27:51For the first time, sir, kinsa man tong person na imuhang?
27:55Iguess.
27:56Oh.
27:56Dead or alive.
27:57Dead or alive.
27:58I'm going to say it na.
27:59I'm dressed bonifacio.
28:01Am I right?
28:05Okay.
28:08I'm dressed bonifacio.
28:13Okay.
28:18Sorry.
28:19That's a spontaneous reaction, no?
28:23Okay, I will not ask you how it works, but...
28:27I'm speechless, no?
28:30So, okay, lang lang.
28:31Okay, to...
28:32Napa ba kay Kwan?
28:33Kay Biff kay Kwan?
28:34Wala na.
28:34Okay, that's it.
28:35So, ang Kwan ako actually is, ang curious question ako is, as similar kang Marvin, no?
28:42Is this a trick that a person will have to learn or is it really a gift?
28:50Okay, that's...
28:52Strange to me.
28:56So, this is not a gift or inborn talent.
29:02This is practice.
29:05Oh.
29:05And you too can learn it if you give time and preparations and a lot of research to get this.
29:14Because, like I said, when I'm talking to you, I said, look at the last letter starts with A, B,
29:23C, and you laugh at B.
29:25So, there's a sign with it.
29:27You get what I mean, sir?
29:28But there's a lot of last names also, B, right?
29:32Yeah.
29:33And I don't want to spoil...
29:35And then you don't also know whether it's dead or alive.
29:38So, a lot of possibilities.
29:40But anyway, continue.
29:41But there are certain things that I don't know if you play gambling.
30:18But there's a...
30:20I'll ask you also, Ofcom, how you did that.
30:25And by the way, for our viewers, the reason how I met Nysel and also earlier C, Marvin, and also
30:32C, eventually after this JV, it's because I was their student last weekend for a magic class.
30:42So, and at least from what the three of you taught us during that Sunday, at least it supports the
30:48premise that it can be learned.
30:51But...
30:51Yeah.
30:52Okay, sige.
30:53I'll let you go for now and then let's move to JV, no?
30:57So, JV, for our viewers, he's also into close-up magic.
31:03And then just like Nysel, he's also into hypnosis.
31:08So, JV, when I hear you're close-up, it's really a brand of toothpaste, no?
31:14But in the context of magic, what does that mean?
31:20I think it's very obvious from the word itself, close-up.
31:25Toothpaste?
31:26Almost.
31:27Okay, sige.
31:27So, close-up means closer in your face.
31:31So, what we've been doing, I mean, it's so broad to explain, but most of like, it's like,
31:36there's a category, WC category.
31:38So, Morag, this is a trick, I call it, no?
31:41This is a trick that's not done on stage.
31:45Yeah.
31:46It's like, dool cha to the person watching it.
31:49You practice, you know?
31:51I can be your host in your next performance.
31:53Continue, okay, and then?
31:55So, that's basically it.
31:56We performed the magic trick in front of the faces, and then close.
32:00So when you perform on stage, you see people performing with the boxes, based on the conversation before it started,
32:08and then you think, ah, what's up?
32:12But close-up is more of like compact things that we do in front of your faces and then almost
32:18everyday objects that you see.
32:19So that happened. That's close-up magic.
32:22I can see in the audience that I'm wearing a mask.
32:28Okay, let's show after telling us what's up close or close-up magic.
32:34Okay, so I can show you.
32:36Yes, let's do this.
32:37They already know the background you've been with the workshop, right?
32:40No, they don't have a background. You can tell them.
32:43But they know that you're with the workshop.
32:45Oh yeah, I participated in the workshop last weekend.
32:47Yeah, you mentioned it before. Last weekend, shout out to Nustar and Miss Jack.
32:50Oh, okay.
32:52Hi, Jackie.
32:54So, you're familiar with Deck of Cards. We tackle this about.
32:58And I will not tell them the secret.
33:00Yeah, actually, this is brand new.
33:03Is it okay to let you open it?
33:05Okay, it's okay.
33:05This is hard though.
33:07This one might take 10 minutes.
33:08Do you have to eat or this is part of the trick?
33:10Part of the trick.
33:11Okay, I don't want to eat if you have to eat.
33:13Okay.
33:14Okay, now that's the part of the trick now.
33:16Now that's part of the trick.
33:18Okay.
33:21Okay.
33:21Now it's hard, right?
33:23Yes.
33:24Okay.
33:24You need help?
33:26This is part of the trick.
33:29Seriously?
33:30Okay, okay.
33:31I'm determined.
33:32Can I still?
33:33Ah, okay.
33:34There, there.
33:35Perfect.
33:35I thought it's part of the trick.
33:37Okay.
33:40Okay.
33:40Yeah.
33:41Okay.
33:41There.
33:41You can also open the Deck of Cards.
33:44Okay.
33:44And check if it's brand new.
33:46Ah, okay.
33:48Validation.
33:49Yes, the validation part.
33:51Validation part.
33:52The misdirection.
33:53Okay.
33:54Oh, it's already opened.
33:55And then?
33:55And then you can...
33:57Yeah.
33:59Okay.
33:59Remove.
34:00Yeah.
34:00The jokers.
34:02Oh, what I'm gonna learn.
34:03Okay.
34:03Okay.
34:04So I'm a good student.
34:05And then?
34:06And then there's also another card that's on the side.
34:09I think it's a freebie.
34:10Ah.
34:10Yeah.
34:11Okay.
34:11And then you can shuffle it.
34:12Show them your shuffling skills.
34:13Yeah.
34:15Obviously, I don't have a shuffling skill.
34:18Like...
34:20It's fine.
34:21It's fine.
34:22No judgment.
34:23No judgment.
34:24Still practicing.
34:26You can...
34:26I can see you like shuffling.
34:28It's fine.
34:28Okay.
34:29So can I start up?
34:30Oh, yes.
34:31There you go.
34:32So I'll just...
34:34Good.
34:34This one.
34:35And then the mic is like...
34:37Yeah.
34:38Okay.
34:40So...
34:41Did you check the Deck of Cards?
34:42Not.
34:43Not.
34:44Okay.
34:44What will I check?
34:45Ah.
34:45Is it normal?
34:47Is it normal?
34:48It's...
34:49You shuffled it really...
34:52Fine lang.
34:54So you can shuffle it this way.
34:56Okay.
34:57Okay.
34:58But I mean...
34:59Now the audience know me better.
35:01You're a beginner on doing this stuff.
35:03Right?
35:03Yes.
35:04But it's fine.
35:05So again, Cards of Magic.
35:07I mean, you've seen Marvin perform The Bizarre.
35:09And then mine...
35:10Mine is more of like...
35:12Misdirection.
35:13So the camera should follow my hands like...
35:15Okay.
35:16Oh.
35:16Okay.
35:18So...
35:18I'm gonna ripple through the cards and just say stop wherever you're like.
35:21Okay?
35:21Okay.
35:22Should I close my eyes now?
35:24No.
35:24You can just look.
35:24Okay.
35:24Okay.
35:25Okay.
35:27Okay.
35:28Okay.
35:30Stop.
35:31Okay.
35:31Sure.
35:33Now we're gonna stop into this card.
35:35Do you know what card is this?
35:37No.
35:37I mean, you've been into the workshop.
35:38So you should know.
35:40Okay.
35:40I'm just kidding.
35:41I'm just kidding.
35:45I feel so...
35:46I feel so useless.
35:48But I know that's part of the destruction.
35:50Okay.
35:50Let's go.
35:50So yeah.
35:51Focus, focus, focus, focus.
35:52Okay.
35:53Now, the card to pick is...
35:54The King of Hearts.
35:56Unique.
35:57Mm-hmm.
35:58Just unique or normal.
35:59Yeah.
36:00Nothing special.
36:00Nothing special.
36:01Just the King of Hearts.
36:02And...
36:03It's so easy.
36:03The King of Hearts...
36:05Into the middle of the deck.
36:06Okay.
36:07That's it.
36:08Where's the King of Hearts again?
36:10Middle of the deck.
36:11Okay.
36:11Wait.
36:11Again, again, again.
36:12You're not listening.
36:13Again.
36:14Let's do it again.
36:15Let's do it again.
36:16Okay.
36:16Okay.
36:17King of Hearts.
36:18Into the middle of the deck.
36:19Where's the King of Hearts again?
36:22Middle of the deck.
36:22Again, again.
36:24Oh my God.
36:25Agoi.
36:26Agoi.
36:26Agoi.
36:28So again...
36:29I'll focus.
36:30I'll focus.
36:30King of Hearts.
36:31Middle of the deck.
36:33Here.
36:33Middle.
36:34Middle of the deck.
36:35Yeah.
36:36Just keep this one.
36:37And then when I snap, it's not yet on top.
36:39Right?
36:40Now I'm gonna snap or wave my fingers.
36:42You're familiar with this.
36:45Not yet.
36:46Okay.
36:46Relax.
36:48Relax.
36:49Ready?
36:49One, two, three.
36:51Oh, maybe it flown too far because it's...
36:55Can you...
36:55Can they check that card?
36:57Yeah.
36:57Let me check it.
37:03King of Hearts.
37:05King of Hearts.
37:06Maybe it's so familiar, but I also...
37:09Again, with a workshop, I teach magic tricks on how to perform it.
37:13Yes.
37:13Now I'll teach it to you guys.
37:14Really?
37:14You will teach them?
37:15Yeah.
37:16I'll show it to you what happens.
37:17So I'll just put a bend on the card.
37:19So you'll see that among all the cards, that's the only card that has a bend on it.
37:23Ah.
37:24Right?
37:25Now...
37:26I put the card into the middle like that.
37:28Right?
37:28And then I wave my hands.
37:33See the reaction.
37:35And here's your card.
37:37The King of Hearts.
37:39You still did not teach me.
37:40Oh, okay.
37:41Okay, so...
37:42Okay, let's show something for the viewers.
37:44It's okay.
37:45So you pick this card randomly, right?
37:46And here's the King of Hearts.
37:48And you're probably familiar how fast my hands is.
37:52Yeah.
37:53Yeah.
37:54See?
37:55And then, here's the teaching part again.
37:57Okay, it's okay.
37:58There are different ways how to make the card vanish.
38:00First is you just slide your hand like that.
38:03And then boom.
38:04I know it flashes too much, but yeah.
38:06Oh.
38:06It flashes that much, right?
38:08Mm.
38:08That's why you should be good.
38:10With the hand movements.
38:10Yeah, with hand movements.
38:11You slide, and then you cover up, and then it looks like nothing.
38:14Ah.
38:15And then sometimes, what if the audience are on the side?
38:18Mm.
38:19So what you do is just like flow it like that, and it just vanish.
38:22Oh, yeah.
38:24That's right.
38:24Are you really teaching me the trick?
38:26Oh, okay.
38:27Okay.
38:28Okay.
38:29Now the card has vanished somewhere, right?
38:31Mm.
38:31Now the question is where?
38:34Okay.
38:34Where?
38:35And then you remember that you paid for the magic workshop, right?
38:37Mm-hmm.
38:38So, would it be magical if I make it appear inside your wallet?
38:43Whoa, whoa, whoa.
38:44Can you check an opening?
38:47Yeah.
38:48Check where the money is at, man.
38:50It's not.
38:50It's not.
38:51Oh, there's one card.
38:53It's not.
38:53Ah.
38:54Oh.
38:56Oh, the king of hearts.
38:59Amazing.
39:00Thank you so much.
39:03Wow.
39:04Thank you so much.
39:06Can I also, Quan?
39:07I'm interested if you have 1,000.
39:09Okay.
39:10Can I flip down now?
39:11No.
39:12I'm interested if it's 1,000, it's bailed.
39:16Because I like money.
39:17No, and let you do it over and over again.
39:20There must be lots of 1,000 pesos bill in my wallet, no?
39:24But, just the same also as I asked Nysel and Marvin, how does it, how long does it take for
39:33a human being like me to be as good as that?
39:38Um, I know their comments are some safe, but I've been doing magic since I was eight.
39:45Hmm.
39:46So I can say 10 years or more, and then you'll be like, not on the same level because I'm
39:52competitive that much, you know?
39:54But if you practice, it's fine.
39:56But I'm also competitive, so not the same level, but better than you.
40:00Okay, let's see.
40:01Okay, then.
40:02But that's what I can say.
40:06You can be better, I mean, almost on everything.
40:08You can be better at it through practice, through, like, doing it every day.
40:12So that's what I've been obsessing when I was eight, no gadgets that much.
40:17So that's why I can say that when you practice magic for how many years, and you became like a
40:24good looking adult like me, then you can be a good magician also.
40:27I can tell.
40:29Yeah.
40:31That this is just an illusion.
40:34Anyhow, before I'll bring the three of you together again for the final piece of the conversation, when we think
40:47about, it's comforting actually, but I think that's what I wanted to say.
40:52It's comforting to know, okay?
40:54Earlier, Mangud, before we started, we had a conversation about the parallelism between public speaking and also magic.
41:03And for the benefit of our viewers, what I actually told them was, which is also a trick for public
41:09speakers, is this line that would surprise a lot of people, no?
41:14That the most spontaneous public speakers are actually the most rehearsed.
41:19People don't get that because it's spontaneous.
41:23And then why should it be rehearsed?
41:25Yeah.
41:25But the reason why I use magic as an analogy, because if a public speaker has also practiced the piece
41:35for a very long time, and invested so much in terms of going through the details and the nuances of
41:44the speech,
41:46then the public speaker already looks very spontaneous.
41:50Yeah.
41:50Which is similar to magic, no?
41:52Because as what the three of you have said, it would take years actually, to be able to perform a
41:58trick, no?
41:59Yes.
41:59As good as that.
42:00So why don't we call them back again, here?
42:04Okay.
42:05Because you're a traitor, no?
42:09You're a traitor, no?
42:10You're a traitor, no?
42:11No, you're a traitor.
42:13No, you're a traitor.
42:15Okay.
42:17So, this question is common to all three of you, and any of you can answer the question, no?
42:23So, which one is harder, kay Murag?
42:26It's a combination of stunt.
42:28It's also a combination of trick, no?
42:30All three, no?
42:32Nga style?
42:33Yeah.
42:34Okay, sige.
42:35So, which one is harder to achieve or to learn?
42:39For the lack of a better word, no?
42:41Fooling the eyes?
42:43Influencing perception?
42:45Or creating the belief?
42:47Ahaman ang harder, and then, or,
42:51If I want to be good at this, no?
43:01So, fooling the eyes?
43:02Fooling the eyes?
43:03Influencing perception?
43:05Or creating the belief?
43:08Hmm.
43:09For me, the hardest one is creating the belief, and then next is influencing the perception, and then the most
43:19easiest is fooling the eyes.
43:20I mean, we always face everything, so.
43:22Okay, fooling the eyes, speed raman siya.
43:24Ah.
43:25Probably.
43:25Probably.
43:26Oh, no, speed.
43:27Speed.
43:27Speed.
43:29Especially itong nikawas na mata.
43:32Okay.
43:33So.
43:33Sleight of eyes.
43:35Sleight of eyes.
43:48Sleight of eyes.
43:49To begin with, you need to believe that the magic actually works, no?
43:54Yes.
43:54Can you, Kwan, wrap up lang, no?
43:56Why is it important, no?
43:58To begin with, kamu mismo, believe that the magic actually works.
44:02The first one?
44:03Mm-hmm.
44:04To, Kwan, sakuo is like, yeah, just like I said earlier, you need to believe on what you're doing.
44:11Same said sa, like, like in life, so you need to trust yourself said, para.
44:18Ang imong confidence is peak.
44:22Okay?
44:23If without confidence man good, di ni mo mabuhat ang, di mo ang ganaan buhat ton.
44:29So, same as magic, so, you need to trust yourself and since nakapractice na kagmaayo,
44:35and na-master na ni mo, so, aran na ni mo ma, Kwan, ma-apply nga,
44:40mo believe ka nga, magic ang imong gibuhat.
44:43Mm-hmm.
44:44And ma, ma-kwan sa, ma-makita sa tiyang mga spectators or audience nga,
44:50ma-jigod yung mong g-kwan, g-perform sila.
44:53Dili lang kay trick.
44:54Ah, murad, murad ginit, ay allowed it to sink in.
45:00Nga, eventually, it would evolve, at least as far as the audience is concerned,
45:05from being just a trick into magic, you know.
45:09So, this is for JV and for Kwan.
45:14Either ninyong dohan ni Nysel, no.
45:16What's the biggest myth man about magicians?
45:20I have an idea, no, but.
45:23Okay.
45:23Biggest myth of magicians?
45:25Oo nga, kanang people would commonly say, ah, ina na ma na.
45:28But in reality, that's not exactly true.
45:31Um, best example kay, um, biggest myth.
45:38Para sa, base ako ang, um, forte.
45:41Um, for example, sa katong trick na kung gibuhat nyo mo ganyan, sir.
45:45Basin, daghan kayo makaingon sa, bisag sa comments and then everywhere.
45:50Hmm.
45:51Makaingon sila nga nag-consabot ah.
46:02So, actually, there's a lot of myth but, sa kuang forte, mauna siyang kasagaran i-throw sa kuang.
46:11Um, on my end, um, hobo siyang myth.
46:15But most people here, like Filipinos, like, they say, like, only for kids.
46:21Like, magic is only for kids.
46:23I mean, I do perform on private events, corporate events.
46:27But most of the people, when you say you're a magician, they always say, ah, mamaji ka, birthday sa bata.
46:32Mo clown ka, mo host ka.
46:33But, again, there's, like, different levels of being, like, a magician.
46:37On what type of magic you'd see.
46:39I mean, it would be weird if you see a clown doing some card tricks to kids.
46:42Right?
46:43So, yeah.
46:43Not just dogs and everything.
46:46So, yeah, that's, I don't know if it's a myth, but most probably, that's what I encounter most of the
46:50time.
46:50Ah, you do magic.
46:52How much is your rate for birthday of my three-year-old son?
46:55Like that.
46:56And Kwan lang siya.
46:57Going to my final question, I was just looking at the shirt.
47:00And although we introduced you as Kwan, the Magicians Association.
47:04Cebu Magicians Association.
47:05Cebu Magicians Association.
47:08See, I'm having a routine, no?
47:12Of saying it.
47:13Pero, is this a group of all learned magicians?
47:18Or is that open also to, for example, like, people like me who just want to eventually be as good
47:28as everybody else?
47:30Press.
47:31For me, actually, he created a group.
47:35Because previously, there's a lot of groups in Cebu.
47:39So, there was, like, Magic Window.
47:43There was, like, Queen City Magic Society.
47:47Maikadi Cebu.
47:49And all of the leaders.
47:51So, we've decided to merge or collaborate into one organization.
47:58So, Maikadi, I'm the Cebu Magicians Association.
48:03So, actually, the members that you accept members are premium.
48:10I mean, class or, like, skills.
48:13Mura, graphing yung eye contact pa yung niya, premium.
48:16Mura.
48:16Also known as, you cannot join.
48:19Okay, continue.
48:20Okay.
48:22Okay, okay.
48:24Mura na siya mag-standard yun eh.
48:26If part ka sa group, just like sa logo, na ay ka ng 5 stars.
48:31Mura po siya 5 stars.
48:32Hotels ka na yun.
48:33So, I mean, yeah.
48:34Simple lesson.
48:35If usaka sa, if part ka sa group,
48:39Mura na siya mag-standard na makita sa mga tao nga.
48:42They are like world class magicians, skilled magicians.
48:48They are like for a trick trick.
48:52Probably.
48:53Yeah, yeah.
48:54I agree so.
48:56They are the goal to be in their art form.
49:02They are the skill level.
49:06So that means in my case, seryoso na.
49:10So I need to learn more so that I would reach a certain level in which I would qualify already
49:20to be part of the group.
49:22So for now, Morag, the way you look at me, I don't want to accept opinions.
49:26You need like 10 years again. Another 10 years.
49:29And I just celebrated my 28th birthday. So you mean to say I'm 38.
49:33Happy birthday.
49:34Happy birthday.
49:36And then, Morag, do you also hold, because I attended one last Sunday, but do you regularly hold also workshops?
49:46So that just in case our viewers are interested to participate.
49:51Yes, we've been holding workshops, but not too much.
49:54But I mean, that's the opportunity that we get from, again, shout out to Miss Jack.
49:58And then, yeah, it's on the process right now on how many workshops we will do for the audience or
50:07now people watching.
50:08So they'll know.
50:09So what, can I discuss what they can learn?
50:11Yes.
50:12Okay, so you can learn like the basic magic, not the things that we do right now.
50:16So we've been, you can learn the basic magic tricks.
50:20I mean, he's really good at it with one of it.
50:22And what I learned earlier is, I can swallow this.
50:25It's hard to do.
50:28So that's the background of the workshop.
50:31Basic magic tricks and it's a very good stepping stone for you to be a good magician or better magician
50:40or better than us, maybe.
50:43Not so sure, but yeah.
50:45Sige.
50:45So Karan, any of you na lang, this is the one.
50:47So how can they follow your work?
50:50And how can they stay updated?
50:52Just in case people who are watching would wish to collaborate with the Cebu Magicians Association.
51:01So they can collaborate on Facebook.
51:04So you can search it on Facebook, the Cebu Magicians Association.
51:08And then you can see the different kind of magicians.
51:11What you see right now is only three of us, but we have a lot of members who also have
51:15special skills.
51:17And they're really good at it also.
51:18So if you have events, I mean, corporate events, private events, you can go to that page and then send
51:28a message.
51:29And then for sure, Marvin will be the one who's gonna answer the message that you've sent.
51:33And then we'll be right there and do some mind-blowing magic tricks.
51:39Just like also how I experience on Sunday.
51:41Last question, it's not part of what I would have wanted to ask, but
51:44Do you want to do charcoal?
51:47Is that doable for me?
51:49Yeah.
51:50That's more of like an endurance.
51:52But endurance, that's not magic.
51:55Yeah, you can train it.
51:56I mean, it's like people having pain.
51:57Like pain receptors, turning it off, and then training it again and again.
52:02Sige.
52:02That's what I will say.
52:03You want to try it?
52:04Specialized?
52:05Ah, good competition.
52:07One, no?
52:07And then learning it 10 years.
52:09So I'll focus on that.
52:12So magic reminds us that even in a world where we think we can Google every answer,
52:18there are still moments that leave us, just like what happened earlier, in awe.
52:23So Marvin, Nysel, and JB, and the Cebu Magicians Association, thank you for bringing a little wonder into our day.
52:34Yes, sir.
52:35And thank you to Coffee First for supporting conversations such as this, that matter.
52:39So the best magic tricks don't just fool the eyes, they teach us to look deeper and think better.
52:47So I'm DJ Moises, this is Beyond the Headlines.
52:49Have a good afternoon.
53:19Okay.
53:20So first, then, everything else.
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