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What's Jordyn Woods's real relationship with money, style, and power? The content creator and business owner gets real with host Nikki Ogunnaike, discussing everything from her early struggles with fashion to how she learned to value her hard-earned money and embrace her own power.
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00:41I deleted Twitter last week.
00:43I was like, delete.
00:44You were done with it.
00:44I'm done.
00:45I get it.
00:46I'm back.
00:47But sometimes you just gotta take it off your phone for a little bit.
00:49Just a week.
00:55Jordan Woods, welcome to Nice Talk.
00:57Thank you for having me.
00:58I'm obviously so thrilled to have you here.
01:00We have known each other and sort of orbited each other for a long time.
01:03But for those who may not be familiar with you,
01:06you are a model, actress, content creator with over 11.7 million followers on Instagram,
01:12as well as the founder and CEO of your own clothing line,
01:16Woods by Jordan.
01:17And I'm so excited to have you here to talk about money, style, and power.
01:19Three important things.
01:21The things we like to call the big three on here.
01:24So we met, since everyone's doing the 2016 throwbacks, we met in 2016.
01:30It was 2016, right?
01:31Yeah.
01:32Back in your model days.
01:33I'm a very different person.
01:35Oh, I love it.
01:35I'm sure we all are.
01:36I would hope.
01:37I think that people need to evolve, right?
01:38And that's like, that's what we should be doing.
01:40Yes.
01:41I was freshly 18.
01:43So crazy.
01:44I feel like the transition from 18 to 28 is crazy.
01:48Yeah.
01:48That is some growth.
01:50The arc.
01:51Who do we become in those 10 years?
01:53Exactly.
01:53It's like so pivotal and everything feels so big when you're a teenager.
01:58And then you get in your 20s and things become bigger, but they feel smaller.
02:03Yeah.
02:03If that makes sense.
02:04Well, you just sort of like realize what's actually important.
02:07And like what you really need to focus on.
02:09And like I tell my sister, those things that you think are so important aren't really that
02:14important once you have a lot more things to worry about.
02:19I want to take things back a little bit, though, and talk about the big three, as we call them,
02:24and like your relationship to them, starting with money.
02:27Like what was your relationship to money growing up?
02:29There's so many misconceptions about me and what I grew up with and what I had.
02:33And not to say I didn't grow up privileged because of just having a roof over my head,
02:38having working parents, you know, being able to have the luxury to go to a nice school.
02:43But I grew up with people who had so much more than me.
02:47Everyone thought that because I'm adjacent to these people, I also had it.
02:51But that's not the case.
02:53Yeah.
02:53So I feel like I'm a little bit jaded with money because I've seen and been around people
02:58who have it so abundantly.
03:00But for me, I really value it because I had to work for every dollar that I had.
03:06What about power?
03:07Like what was your relationship or sort of how did you conceive of power when you were growing up?
03:12That's another taboo subject because I grew up with people with so much access and celebrity status
03:19that I didn't really think about those things.
03:22We just kind of grew up in our friend group, just not really paying attention to those things,
03:27not really thinking about power in that sense.
03:30When I think of power, I think of freedom.
03:33The more power you have, the more you can do and the more you can have access to things.
03:40So for me, money, power is all tied into freedom.
03:44Yeah.
03:44I'm curious about your relationship to style and fashion because you later pursued a career in fashion.
03:51What was your relationship to style growing up?
03:53I never could have imagined that.
03:54I really couldn't have.
03:56I grew up a bigger girl.
03:57I was not very fashion forward.
03:59I was not fashionable.
04:01I would wear my brother, dad's big T-shirts just because I felt the most comfortable in that.
04:06Growing up, Abercrombie and Fitch and Hollister and all these things that everyone around me were wearing,
04:11they didn't look the same on me, nor could I fit a lot of those things.
04:15So it became my security blanket.
04:17And then as I moved to New York and I was 18, I was trying out different clothing styles.
04:22I'm like, I could wear this.
04:24I could wear a crop top.
04:25Might not have looked the best.
04:26But I experimented and I tried it.
04:29And growing up, I don't really feel I had a role model that looked like me.
04:34Oh, interesting.
04:35Okay.
04:35Because people are always like, who was your fashion icon growing up or who did you look up to?
04:40And I'm like, honestly, real woman being unapologetically themselves just because who really looked like me when I was growing
04:49up?
04:49That's so true.
04:50The body types were not normalized.
04:52We take steps forward.
04:54We take steps back.
04:55It does feel like we're taking some steps back, unfortunately.
04:58It does.
04:58It feels like we were so inclusive and now skinny is in.
05:01Yeah, I know, right?
05:02It feels like, not even 2016, it feels like 2006 when we're very much sort of going back to those
05:10early odds.
05:10It is a little bit.
05:11We live in a very interesting time.
05:13Something I think is interesting is that you have been vocal about how you were one of two black girls
05:18at your school.
05:18Same.
05:19Like, I understand that sort of experience for sure.
05:22And I'm curious how that shaped your understanding of yourself and your identity when you were growing up.
05:27I lived in a bubble.
05:28I didn't really look at color or necessarily identify myself as being super different than anyone because I grew up
05:36in a household where everyone's equal.
05:38My mom's always treated every single person equal.
05:41I was a little bit jaded until I got into the real world, got on social media, started being exposed,
05:48going to New York, being in those situations.
05:50People did process that differently.
05:53They're like, oh, so now you understand what it's like to be a black woman.
05:58Oh, but that's like so, I think that's so lame.
06:01You should be able to be like, okay, this is the environment I grew up in and then I entered
06:05into another environment and I learned and I evolved and I grew.
06:09Yeah, and I understand and I can see things clear.
06:11I think that's what evolution is about.
06:13We're all not going to grow up the same.
06:15And that's fine.
06:16And that's okay.
06:17That's what makes us all right.
06:18I always say our individuality is our greatest gift.
06:21Yeah.
06:21We're not entitled to the same experience.
06:24I feel every time I've gone through adversity, it's made me a better person.
06:28Yeah.
06:29And everyone's always going to have an opinion.
06:30Let's talk about social media.
06:32Yeah.
06:33Since we're here.
06:34Speaking of opinions, you began your career quite young and as a social media star and you have those 11
06:41.7 million followers on Instagram.
06:43Is it what you always wanted to do?
06:45Like, does it consciously a part of like what you were going after or did you fall into it?
06:49Did it meet you?
06:50I feel I grew up in a generation right before social media.
06:54So naturally, as Instagram became a thing, my friends and I joined.
06:58People like watching our videos.
06:59It was so much less pressure when we were younger.
07:03You're just like, oh, we're sitting here a selfie.
07:05No edit.
07:05Yeah.
07:06Or throw a quick filter on there.
07:08You don't really think about it.
07:09So for me, it was a natural transition.
07:12Now I notice that the younger generation, that's everyone's goal is to be a content creator.
07:18No one wants to really be a firefighter, a police officer.
07:22It's like I want to be a streamer, a content creator.
07:25So everyone is fully capable of being that or even a journalist.
07:29Yeah.
07:29If you have an Instagram now, you can be a journalist.
07:31Yeah.
07:32Well, you can be.
07:34If you have the hottest take, you are now a journalist.
07:38We are putting these in quotes for anyone who's listening.
07:41I always say, is it about the truth anymore or is it about having the most controversial
07:47take?
07:48It depends on who you ask.
07:49Like podcasts.
07:52I like facts.
07:53Show me the facts.
07:55Lay it out.
07:55Tell me the story.
07:56Like, I'm like the FBI.
07:58Yeah.
07:59Someone tells me something.
08:00I'm like, okay, where this happened.
08:01I'm fact checking it.
08:03No one cares anymore.
08:04I know.
08:04You see like an article with a huge headline.
08:06You're like, oh my God, did you see that?
08:08And people believe it.
08:09Yeah.
08:09And I've watched your rise on social media and I'm always, you know, like, how are you
08:14doing over there?
08:15Like, how's that social media treating you when like the, when it starts ticking up in
08:19that sort of way, you know?
08:21Yeah.
08:21You know, I know when to log off.
08:25I know when I'm having a rough day to just not listen to the noise because you can't control
08:31when you're scrolling what you see, even with sports, you know, dating an athlete.
08:36Yeah.
08:37There's going to be a lot of discourse.
08:40And as much as I want to respond to everything, whether it's me or him, more so with people
08:45I love, whether it's my sister or fiance or mother or whatever, because me, I know people
08:50are going to say, they've said everything and they will continue to say it.
08:53But when it's my family, I'm like, how do I not respond?
08:56I need to log off.
08:57I've learned over the years, but I will say sometimes it's hard for me to be a hundred
09:03percent myself because I felt like in a certain period of time, I really shut down.
09:12And so now like slowly giving people a little bit more and more and more, you almost feel
09:16like you want to protect yourself and you don't owe people anything.
09:20Yeah.
09:20I feel like I have so much to share and I want to be able to do it, but it's
09:24what's
09:24the right way.
09:25Yeah.
09:26Well, I mean, what is right?
09:27Like, quote unquote, right?
09:28It's just sort of like you have to do what's right.
09:31Yeah, exactly.
09:32What's good for you as you've progressed in your career and you're navigating like being
09:36in the public eye?
09:37What's some of the best advice you've received on handling everything?
09:41Honestly, I wish I had like some secret advice on how to handle it.
09:48One, log off.
09:51Two, silence is power.
09:53I feel your voice is more impactful when you don't overshare or overspeak because when you
09:59do have something to say, people are more tuned in and really just have strong faith.
10:06Figure out something that makes you happy, whether that's journaling, getting outside,
10:11like know when to log off.
10:13Yeah.
10:13Yeah.
10:14Know when to log off.
10:15Know when to log off.
10:16Yes.
10:16I deleted Twitter last week.
10:18I was like, delete.
10:19You were done with it.
10:19I'm done.
10:20I get it.
10:21I'm back.
10:21But sometimes you just got to take it off your phone for a little bit.
10:24Just a week.
10:25Just take a break.
10:26Okay.
10:26Let's talk about your fashion career.
10:27You launched your clothing line, Woods by Jordan.
10:30You've launched an activewear line called Second Nature in 2018.
10:33And I've collaborated with brands like Boohoo and Pretty Little Thing.
10:36What was the impetus for starting Woods by Jordan?
10:39So one, I wanted to make it for girls like me, where I feel there's an outlet for inclusivity.
10:46There's a place where you can get trendy items that are accessible and affordable and quality
10:52products.
10:53But fashion is hard.
10:55It is.
10:55It's like you have to love it because the nights that you lose sleep over a stitch,
11:02a tag, like the smallest things.
11:04And people will know when you're not into it.
11:06Yeah.
11:07And so that's why even with the dresses, I took a step because the fun got taken away from
11:11it.
11:12Yeah.
11:12The passion got taken away from it.
11:14I still love it.
11:15It was an era.
11:15But for me, I realized I love to shop.
11:18Mm-hmm.
11:18What are you shopping for these days besides a wedding dress?
11:22I'm trying to save money.
11:24Same.
11:25Same.
11:26Weddings are expensive.
11:28Yeah.
11:28Yeah.
11:30So I actually, not to jump off of fashion, but I'm planning a bachelorette because I'm
11:37like, I know I just got engaged, but I need a break from the cold.
11:41So I'm going on my bachelorette.
11:43So I've been shopping for outfits for the bachelorette.
11:46But otherwise, I'm trying to not spend any money because these samples are expensive.
11:51Ah.
11:52Getting inventory is expensive.
11:54Mm-hmm.
11:54Mm-hmm.
11:55Shipping is expensive.
11:57Tariffs are expensive.
11:58That's funny.
11:58I was going to ask you, what have you learned from working on this line?
12:02You have to love it.
12:03Yeah.
12:04You have to be okay with not seeing a profit for a while, if anything.
12:09Because people think like, oh, fashion, especially when you're making everything from a piece of
12:15paper to the item.
12:17A lot of people white label or they buy existing items.
12:20We make everything like from our mind to the paper to the factory.
12:24Money goes into everything from email marketing, social media, ad spend, all of it.
12:31Have you always had an entrepreneurial spirit, would you say?
12:33Yes, because I grew up with people that knew what they wanted to do, had God-given gifts,
12:39or didn't have to do anything at all.
12:41Mm-hmm.
12:42And me, I'm passionate about a lot of things, and I love doing everything.
12:47I'm a tomboy and a girly girl.
12:49Yeah.
12:49I love makeup.
12:50I love clothes.
12:51I love cars.
12:52I can throw a football.
12:55I can play basketball.
12:56Yeah.
12:56Yeah.
12:56I like everything.
12:57Yeah.
12:58I'm a Libra.
12:58I can't decide.
12:59You're like this.
13:00I'm like, I want to do it all.
13:01So I was always hard on myself, feeling like, what is that one thing?
13:06Mm-hmm.
13:07And then one day, I had an epiphany, and I'm like, you can do everything.
13:10Of course.
13:10Life's short.
13:11Yeah, of course.
13:12If it doesn't work out, you can always reinvent.
13:15Always.
13:15But with fashion.
13:16I just wanted to create an inclusive line, and then I love shopping.
13:22And these boots.
13:24I wanted to ask you about them, actually, because I know that the boots are an extended calf, right?
13:29Mm-hmm.
13:29Okay, I have tons of friends who are like, the hardest thing for me to find is like a
13:33knee-high boot, a thigh-high boot.
13:35Talk to me specifically about like, what went into the creation of those boots.
13:38So for me, I'm like, how can I do something fun and different with the targeting and actual
13:44issue that I myself am having?
13:46And it's not even about being curvier.
13:49Girls like lift a lot, and they have bigger calves or genetics.
13:52So for me, I'm like, how can I create something that looks good on all body types that is fun,
13:59different, and then we kind of just got in the lab.
14:03Yeah, I love it.
14:04Started sketching.
14:05You should see some of the first samples.
14:07They look nuts.
14:09Our best-selling items actually are handbags.
14:12Oh.
14:13Yeah.
14:13Okay, well, the bag you brought in today was very cute.
14:15The other one, the tote bag, it fits everything.
14:17You can bring it to work.
14:19You can fit your laptop, a phone stand.
14:21I mean, I'd probably fit this mic in there.
14:23A sandwich, lunch, everything.
14:25I love that.
14:26So yeah, it's been very fun.
14:29You just never know what's going to hit either, what people love the most.
14:33Yeah.
14:33So the mission statement, there's a line that I'm going to read because I think it's pretty
14:38amazing.
14:39Through positive empowerment and body celebration, we stand as an inspiring and artistic community,
14:45striving to look snatched, feel good, and embody that DFE, divine feminine energy.
14:50What does divine feminine energy mean to you?
14:53There's so much power and grace and being our authentic self.
14:57It's about being the inner goddess in you, owning who you are, not letting anyone change
15:03you, constantly showing up for yourself, and being snatched, being a baddie.
15:08And being a baddie, please.
15:10Here's your baddie chain.
15:11A baddie could look like anything.
15:14It's really like confidence is everything in anything.
15:17In business, in fashion, having confidence while you're doing these things.
15:22Even if you don't know what you're doing, it takes you so far.
15:26Completely agree.
15:27I want to know what else do you have coming up from the brand that we should be excited
15:30about?
15:30Well, I didn't know I was getting engaged, but because I am, I'm like, we need a bridal
15:35collection.
15:36So I'm working on making some of a bridal collection, but really taking our core items and doing
15:45different fun patterns, variations of kind of what we have.
15:48And then also with spring and summer coming up, I don't want to give people too much because
15:52I want them to be able to keep up with the brand.
15:56So just some fun colors and things.
15:59And a bridal moment.
15:59And maybe some bridal moments, some beachy moments, some bachelorette moments.
16:05Let's talk about it for a second.
16:07Do you have any ideas for a dress, the big day?
16:11What are you thinking?
16:12You know, I wish I could give you all the tea, but I really don't have anything right
16:17now.
16:17I'm such a go with the flow person.
16:19I know you can't be that for a wedding, but I can't pick a dress until I have a location.
16:24For me, it's like I have to visualize everything.
16:27So you got to engage it over the holidays?
16:29Christmas Eve.
16:30Yeah.
16:30Oh, I love that.
16:31I had no clue.
16:32You had no clue?
16:33No.
16:34Wow.
16:35And it was just like the only day that worked in our schedule.
16:39What?
16:39Like it wasn't like an intentional Christmas Eve.
16:42It was just like that just lined up to where it was.
16:44It worked out.
16:46It was perfect and it was intimate.
16:48And yeah, there's a lot of planning I have to do.
16:51But...
16:51Don't I know it.
16:52You are way more steps ahead.
16:55I need to know all the secrets of wedding preparation.
16:58Stay off TikTok.
16:59Log off.
17:00I was going to say I'm on TikTok.
17:02Log off.
17:02And they're like, microneedling, this, that, diamond facial, do this once a month.
17:06I'm like...
17:07And they're like, if you are an August bride, you should be doing this.
17:11You should be here.
17:12You should be there.
17:12And I'm like, oh, well, I'm not anywhere near that.
17:15Yeah, they're like, this is my year out checklist.
17:17I'm like, what if I don't have a year?
17:19What do I do?
17:20I don't have a year.
17:20I don't have a year.
17:22I mean, I have to say I did look at the Chani app before I signed the paperwork for our
17:26date.
17:27We're coming...
17:27I don't even...
17:27What is that?
17:28Oh, Chani?
17:29Yeah.
17:29What is...
17:30Oh, Chani Nichols is an amazing astrologer.
17:32She has an app.
17:32And what I did is we had, like, a couple of dates from the place that we're getting married.
17:38And I Googled all of them.
17:40So does astrology matter?
17:43I would say that if you want everything on your side, right?
17:49Like, you just want, like, an auspicious beginning, consider astrology.
17:52Okay.
17:53So we're coming out of Mercury retrograde when we're getting married.
17:56And I was very like...
17:57Mercury retrograde hasn't stopped for, like, the past five years.
18:00It happens all the time.
18:01When...
18:02This did not exist when I was a kid.
18:04It's not an auspicious beginning.
18:06So what if I really love this venue?
18:07It's only available.
18:08I'm just picking a random date on the 15th.
18:10And she's like, never get married on the 15th.
18:11Now in my head, I'm going to think, never get married on the 15th.
18:17Like, that's why I'm scared.
18:19But then people go really deep and they do, like, the rain shaman to make sure that, like,
18:23it doesn't rain the night.
18:24Like, is he gay?
18:25The Etsy witch and stuff like that.
18:27I'm like, is that real?
18:28Because I have some wishes.
18:29Let me log on.
18:31I'm going to download the Chani app.
18:33It's so good.
18:33Yeah.
18:34You'll be obsessed.
18:35Sign me up.
18:36I want to talk to you about courtside style because I think that you obviously are so
18:40well-dressed.
18:40And I'm always curious, what are you thinking about when you're getting dressed?
18:44Like...
18:44Do you want me to give you my real thoughts or...
18:46I want all of them.
18:48That's the one.
18:49Okay.
18:50So, those seats are pretty tight.
18:52Okay.
18:53So, I'm always thinking, okay, can I move in this?
18:55And sometimes people are like, you're so calm during the game.
18:58And I'm like, no, it's because I'm stuck.
19:01You're like, I can't move.
19:01It's like, I can't really move my arms up.
19:03I like more...
19:03I committed to this fur coat and I really can't move because the seats are pretty tight.
19:08So, I think about accessibility in my outfits.
19:11Yeah.
19:11But people really think, like, I have a stylist and I plan them out.
19:15It'll be like 30 minutes before the game.
19:17I know I want to wear this jacket, but what else am I going to wear with it?
19:20Like, I'll commit to a piece but not know what I'm going to put together.
19:25Except for the playoff looks just because they were custom.
19:29So, I had to have extra time.
19:31Life is like a fashion show.
19:32I wear what I would wear normally.
19:35And coming to New York, I thought, I'm going to have to be dressed to the nines all the time.
19:40Everyone goes to the game so casual.
19:42It'll be like the most famous person in a baseball cap, a t-shirt, jeans, sneakers.
19:48It's a little different than LA courtside.
19:50It's way more different than I thought.
19:51And honestly, I love it because you can do whatever you want.
19:54You can show up chill or you can show up in a fur coat.
19:57As long as you can move your arms.
19:58As long as you can move.
19:59Which I can't.
20:00What are you wearing this weekend?
20:02What can you tell us?
20:03So, La Point made me a custom look.
20:05Which we were going to wear.
20:06I was going to save it for the playoffs.
20:07But I'm like, it's too far away.
20:09Yeah.
20:09It's like a dark denim.
20:10Oh, nice.
20:11And it's a crop jacket that's kind of cinched at the waist.
20:14And then it has the navy feathers.
20:16And then it has beaded, embroidered, like, orange jewels.
20:21How much orange and blue do you have in your wardrobe now?
20:24Probably too much.
20:25Oh, shit.
20:27Probably, like, way too much.
20:28But, like, once I'm in it, I'm all in.
20:31100%.
20:32I'm, like, committed.
20:33Yeah.
20:33I just got a break in to be that committed.
20:36Oh, I love it.
20:38I like orange.
20:39So, I'm like, I'm going to wear this regardless.
20:41That's it.
20:41Whatever happens, I'm still going to wear this.
20:43And then also, so, the All-Star game was here in 2004.
20:48Jeff Hamilton made these, like, insane leather All-Star jackets.
20:53And Carl found one for him and one for me.
20:56So, we're going to match tomorrow.
20:58I didn't realize it's Valentine's Day tomorrow.
21:00Yeah.
21:01Once you get engaged, I'm like, what, you're not going to ask me to be your Valentine?
21:05He's like, are you serious?
21:07He's like, look at your hand.
21:09Is that not?
21:11I'm like, okay, fine.
21:12Let me stop.
21:13Does he like twinning?
21:14Are you guys like a twinning couple?
21:16We used to be more twinning when we first started dating.
21:19Now, he's like, all right, I got you.
21:21I don't really have to impress you anymore.
21:23I bagged you.
21:24He used to care.
21:25It's hard, though, when you're seven feet tall.
21:28That's so crazy.
21:30He wears a size 20 shoe.
21:32It's like the size of this table.
21:33I can't even fathom that.
21:34Whatever clothes he can get is what he can get.
21:37So, before I let you go, I want to talk to you about the talks.
21:40Because I heard that you are an owner of the talks in Buckhead.
21:43Yes.
21:44Is that right?
21:44Okay.
21:45I know I'm crazy.
21:46Yes.
21:47I saw that and I was like, wait, another job?
21:49I actually have like a couple other jobs.
21:52We'll get into it.
21:54Okay.
21:54What is the talks, though?
21:56And why was wellness so important for you to get involved in?
21:59So, for me, I'm a big believer in lymphatic movement and lymphatic massage.
22:05And so, the talks is a special technique where the founder, Courtney, she developed it.
22:10But it works with your lymphatic system and body sculpting to kind of create, I don't want to say it's
22:17a detox, but it's just a way to get your body moving, flowing, work on the lymphatic.
22:22And after you feel so good and snatch, since we're going with the snatch, I felt Atlanta needed that.
22:28And there wasn't anything like that in the market.
22:30And I know there's so many women like us there that want something like that.
22:35And so, about three years ago, I had the idea.
22:38We just got open about six months ago.
22:40Congratulations.
22:41Yeah, it's...
22:42You have to go.
22:43I do have to go.
22:44There's one in New York.
22:45Yeah, there's one in Soho.
22:46So, Courtney, the founder, all of the locations are hers in New York.
22:50Okay.
22:50And they're all good.
22:52Also, so there's a company called Gloss Labs.
22:56Another job.
22:56Yeah.
22:57It's crazy.
22:58But it was an existing company that got bought out by Adam Weitzman.
23:02And now he made my mom the president of the company.
23:05And I am the chief creative officer.
23:08Oh, I love that.
23:09Congrats to mom.
23:10Congrats to you.
23:11I haven't really dove into my new title yet.
23:14Because there are some existing products that they're coming out with first.
23:18So, I didn't help formulate those.
23:19But it really is just helping them come up with different concepts.
23:23And the brand is really about fitting into your everyday life.
23:26And so, the first product coming out is a kit.
23:30And it has a nail file, a facial shaver, tweezers, nail strengthening bonder thing.
23:38But you just throw it in your bag.
23:39It's a small kit.
23:40And you can just take it on the go.
23:41And so, it's really about high-speed lifestyle.
23:43But having things with you.
23:45So, I feel like it fits into what I already do.
23:48A hundred percent.
23:49And just kind of helping them make it come to life.
23:53So, before I let you go, we always like to end this podcast with three questions about money, style, and
23:59power.
24:00It's a quick lightning round.
24:01So, the first question is, what's one thing money can't buy?
24:04Health.
24:06If you could trade closets with anyone, who would it be and why?
24:10Tiana Taylor, if the abs are included.
24:13Yes.
24:14Yes.
24:14Correct.
24:15Or Rihanna.
24:16Yeah.
24:16Rihanna.
24:16Okay.
24:18Lastly, what's your go-to song when you want to feel powerful?
24:21I don't know why the first thing that comes to mind is Freedom by Beyonce.
24:24But that just feels so, like...
24:27Listen, I get it.
24:28It's a good song.
24:29I don't know.
24:30That was the first song that popped in my head.
24:31I like when people go with the first song.
24:33Because you never know.
24:33Yeah, I don't want to overthink it.
24:35Yeah.
24:35Yeah.
24:36That's a good one.
24:37It's like I just heard, like, the...
24:40Yeah, exactly.
24:41I love it.
24:42Well, Jordan, this has been great.
24:43Thank you so much for joining me on.
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