00:00Stephen A. Smith asks Carrie Champion why she waited years to criticize him publicly.
00:06Stephen A. Smith sat down with Carrie Champion and Jameli Hill on their flagrant and funny podcast.
00:12The conversation turned to when grievances should be aired.
00:16Smith asked Champion why she waited to voice criticisms publicly rather than privately at ESPN.
00:22Champion said her silence was her way of supporting him, keeping disagreements in the family.
00:27Hill noted Smith had not reached out during her 2017 ESPN suspension.
00:33The exchange drew hundreds of thousands of views and sparked debate.
00:39Stephen A.'s question was procedural.
00:41Champion left first take in 2015, yet he only heard grievances roughly a year before this taping.
00:48He argued a colleague should call before going public.
00:51He said,
00:52Plenty of black women show him nothing but love.
00:55Champion turned Smith's line back.
00:58Silence is support.
01:00She applied that rule herself, keeping it in the family.
01:03She cited times he may have misspoke about black women and didn't have her back.
01:09The community needs him to be better.
01:12Jamel Hill tied silence's support to her experience.
01:15During her 2017 ESPN suspension after calling Donald Trump a white supremacist,
01:21Smith never reached out.
01:23She noted he spoke to the Washington Post siding with the company.
01:28Sentiment was mixed and harsh.
01:30Many sided with Smith.
01:32If you have the person's number, say it to their face.
01:35Others rejected that black women comments are special.
01:38Some accused Hill of race grifting.
01:40Others called Smith out of touch.
01:43The fuse was a November 2025 fight when Champion questioned why Smith would not bring the same energy to Michelle
01:51Beadle.
01:52Smith said she was hired at first take, in large part because of me.
01:56Hill called taking ownership, cringe.
01:59The National Association of Black Journalists gave Smith a thumbs-down award.
02:06The National Association of American
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