- 14 minutes ago
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:09Tonight on Border Security
00:11A woman attempts to bluff her way across the border
00:21But officers will find all the answers they need
00:25I'm not a criminal, I didn't murder anyone
00:28This is not the first time immigration has had a problem with this passenger
00:32You know, last time cost me three years of my life
00:36There's just so much
00:38And a surprise find ends in tears
00:41I don't know, that's almost like concealment to me
01:04In Sydney, officers are searching the bags of an Australian woman returning from Vietnam
01:10How long will it take? How long will it take?
01:13It'll take as long as it takes, I can't say
01:16She's in a real hurry to leave the airport
01:18And holes are beginning to appear in her story
01:21You declared that your occupation was a tailor
01:24Do you do clothing alterations?
01:26Yeah, I got a clothing manufacture before
01:29Okay, because you were telling me before that you work in the travel industry
01:33Right now, my sister work on the travel industry
01:36So do you do both?
01:38No, I stopped for clothing and I just do with my sister in overseas
01:43I bought the certificate in the back
01:46Yeah
01:47I found the certificate of registration
01:49It's a transport company, not a tourist company
01:51Do you actually know what they do?
01:53Yes, for the transport
01:55Okay
01:55It's just
01:57First of all you declared you're a tailor
01:59Then you told me you're working in the tourism industry
02:01I was a tailor in 20 years
02:03And now it's a transport company
02:04And now it's a transport company
02:04Only, only, because it's my job
02:06It's where my, my original is tailor
02:08But now it's what I look after for my sister
02:10For the business
02:11So what do you do now?
02:12What is your job currently?
02:14Transport
02:14Transport
02:15Yeah
02:15You've said transport, you've said tourism, you've said tailoring
02:20Yep
02:31A Canadian national has just arrived from Thailand
02:34And seems to be no stranger to Australia's immigration
02:38He previously arrived in Australia in 1995
02:42On a working holiday visa
02:43The working holiday visa allows him to do a little bit of work
02:48Have a little look around
02:49And do that for 12 months
02:52At the end of his 12 months unfortunately he didn't leave Australia
02:55And indeed stayed almost 10 years
02:59He came back and stayed a full three months
03:01After a three year ban
03:03My concerns are, is he a genuine tourist?
03:09What is his reason for coming back this time?
03:12He has already told immigration that he is here just to visit friends
03:16But Officer June needs to be convinced that this is the case
03:21Apart from visiting some friends, what have you got planned?
03:26I don't have any plans to tell the truth
03:29Now I want to go back to your original stay in Australia
03:32You came on a working holiday visa
03:34And you stayed for eight years
03:38What did you do in that eight years?
03:40I just worked to get by
03:43So you worked?
03:44Yeah
03:44In the construction industry?
03:47So you eventually left the country
03:49I wanted to do the right thing and I did the right thing
03:51I went into immigration
03:52I turned myself in and said, listen, I've overstayed
03:54They gave me a three year ban and I did my time
03:57Okay
03:58And I didn't want to ever be illegal, you know
04:01I just was working to live
04:04He recently spent an additional three months in Australia
04:07And Officer June suspects that trip may have also been for work
04:12Outside of your ten years stay in Australia
04:16Yeah
04:17You've not worked in Australia
04:20No, no
04:21I didn't do any work at all
04:24No work at all
04:25Has everything that you told me today been the truth?
04:28Yes
04:28I don't need to lie
04:30I don't have no reason to lie to no one
04:39In Melbourne, quarantine is inspecting the bags of a passenger returning from Iran
04:45Why did you tell me there was nothing else in the bag when there was other things?
04:50Is there any other plant material in the bag? Anything else you use for cooking? Anything at all?
04:56My mother, my sister
04:59You told me you packed your own bags
05:03Why are you telling me now that your sister
05:05No, no, no, no, no
05:06I'll get it, I'll get it
05:07Look
05:08Saffron
05:09It's not saffron, it's safflower
05:11It's prohibited
05:11This is saffron
05:13Saffron and colour
05:20More
05:21Inside shoes
05:22What do you do with this?
05:24Putting foot
05:25Goes in your mouth
05:27Food
05:27The passenger has packed a mountain of exotic spices and food in some very strange places
05:36So what Officer Christine discovers next leads her to believe that this passenger is trying to deceive quarantine
05:43What did you tell me there was only trays in here?
05:47To protect this tray
05:49You put the food in to protect the tray
05:52I don't know, that's almost like concealment to me
05:56I don't know, that's almost like concealment to me
06:06Officers are trying to understand this woman's business trip to Vietnam
06:12She first told them she's a tailor
06:14Then a tourist operator
06:16And now claims to work for a transport company
06:19What's the name of the company that you last worked at?
06:22This was for...
06:25I can't remember the name
06:26Can't remember the name
06:27When did you work there?
06:29This was last year
06:30Last year when?
06:31I can't remember
06:32Can't remember
06:33Yeah
06:33How did you afford to go overseas?
06:36I had to go with my sister to organize the business up there
06:39Who paid for the ticket?
06:41I bought
06:41You bought the ticket
06:42You can't remember when you last worked
06:44How do you afford to pay for the ticket?
06:46Because this was my money
06:47This was for my parents
06:50My parents sent for my sister
06:52And this was what I had to keep for my sister
06:54This was for the whole staff
06:59All the work
07:01It doesn't make a lot of sense to me
07:02The passenger is becoming increasingly flustered by this line of questioning
07:08Her belongings are swabbed to test for traces of narcotics
07:17It's negative
07:18But officers still need to know why she can't answer such simple questions
07:23When people start to get very nervous and can't recall how they travel and why
07:28You know
07:29You have to ask the question
07:31Are they hiding something?
07:33And body language would suggest that she is to me
07:48A Canadian has arrived from Thailand
07:51And immigration are interviewing him to determine if he plans to work illegally on a three-month holiday visa
07:58What do you do when you go to Thailand?
08:01I just help my girlfriend
08:02She has an import-export company
08:04Okay, what's the name of her business?
08:07Suquan import-export
08:08That's the name of her business
08:11Okay
08:11For all intents and purposes you have shown us a business card indicating that you are the manager
08:18Correct
08:19Of a business in Thailand when you shouldn't be working there at all
08:23I'm explaining to you
08:24I got those cards made up yesterday
08:26It was on a whim because I said to my girlfriend
08:29I'm going to Australia
08:30I'm not working
08:31This is solely an extracurricular activity for me to do
08:35Because when I'm in Thailand I got a lot of time on my hands
08:38I'm very bored
08:38Anybody that can verify your story?
08:40Certainly
08:41Certainly
08:42All my friends will tell you exactly what you want to hear
08:45Officer June will now phone his contacts from another room
08:49Hello
08:50Hello, is this Tom?
08:52She will now try and verify his story
08:54Is there any problems?
08:56No, we're just asking him a few questions
08:58I can personally guarantee
09:01He has business and stuff in Thailand
09:09Not a problem
09:14So he's done business in Thailand?
09:17He's just an entrepreneur, you know
09:19This does not seem to match Jaris' claims that the business belongs to his girlfriend
09:25And that he doesn't work in Thailand
09:28Tom, thank you so much for your time today
09:30Thank you so much
09:31A final phone call to Jaris' girlfriend in Thailand
09:35Confirms Officer June's suspicions
09:38Thank you very much, bye
09:41Well Jaris hasn't been 100% honest with me
09:46He said that he had these business cards printed solely to come out to Australia
09:52Whereas he's actually got more to do with the business than just having a name printed on a card
10:04Why didn't you declare it?
10:07There's just so much
10:08This passenger has returned from Iran with food hidden in every corner of her luggage
10:15But you haven't declared anything at all, not even your sweets
10:19You haven't declared your spices
10:20It's all organic
10:23It's all things that you must declare
10:25The passenger is starting to realise that she may be in trouble
10:30And that she may lose her exotic foods and spices
10:53Losing her foods and spices could be a bad end to her trip
10:56But she may not realise that she could be facing a large fine or even a prosecution
11:03Well I started off thinking that there was definitely sweets in one of the bags
11:07But when you start seeing things pack down shoes, that sends the alarm bells off
11:21You seem very unusual, you can't even remember when you worked
11:25Officers continue to question a woman returning from Vietnam
11:29And are concerned why she seems to be avoiding answering their simple questions
11:35So when was the last time you travelled to Vietnam?
11:38I can't remember
11:40You can't remember when you travelled last?
11:42Yeah, because I have a lot of things to do, you see
11:43I have a lot of paperwork, I have the family
11:45Same with me, I have a lot of things to do
11:47But I can't remember when I travelled last
11:48Her passport indicates she often flies to Vietnam
11:52And officers want to know how she affords to travel so frequently
11:56What's the problem?
11:57Four trips?
11:58Four times in how long?
12:01Almost two years
12:01Two years?
12:02Every six months?
12:03Yeah
12:03How do you afford to travel so much?
12:05How do you afford to travel?
12:06I have to do the paperwork
12:07Sorry?
12:08I have to do the paperwork
12:09You have to do the paperwork
12:11Yeah
12:12You're talking about nearly $10,000 worth of travel in two years
12:17Okay, anyway, if any question, because now I'm tired, you know
12:25And if you need to check, you can check
12:28We're asking you questions, you need to answer them
12:30Yeah, if like I'm tired, something like out of I can not answer
12:35These are simple questions, they're very simple questions
12:36Yeah, but if I don't mind, if I cannot answer you
12:40Or if I cannot answer you, if the question does not make sense
12:43Because the thing, if you check, you can search everything you can search
12:47And everything you do, whatever you do
12:49If you can't answer the question, why can't you answer the question?
12:51Yeah, I don't need to answer any question because I'm tired now
12:54Yeah?
12:54Yeah
12:55But these are very easy questions
12:56Because the thing is, I don't need to be answering you
12:59Because all the paperwork I do, I must answer you every single question
13:02Can I?
13:03It makes sense?
13:04No
13:07If you can search, whatever you look, whatever you check, you can check
13:11So you're accusing to answer any questions?
13:12Is that what you're saying?
13:13I refuse, sorry
13:26I'm not a criminal, I didn't murder anyone or do anything
13:29This is getting like, like extensive now
13:33Immigration has discovered evidence this passenger may not be a genuine visitor
13:38And they have made the decision to go to the next step
13:44It has come to the department's attention that there may be grounds for cancellation of your visa for the following
13:53reasons
13:53You are carrying a business card from the Suquan Import Export Company Limited
13:59Indicating that you are the manager of that company
14:02And that your girlfriend advised that you have been employed by her company for the previous two years
14:09No, no
14:09And that you are not travelling to Australia as a genuine tourist
14:13Do I get to discuss this?
14:15Yes you do, yep
14:17I'll give you ten minutes to think about these points and then I'll come back and talk to you
14:22I don't need to think about the points
14:23I have to, I have to give you this time
14:27But I want to ask, would I be able to answer these personally between just me and you without the
14:31camera in here?
14:33Uh, yes you can, yes that's not a problem
14:35Jarrus knows that a lot more rides on his reasons to allow him entry on a three month holiday visa
14:43Potentially now I might get another three year bed
14:45You know, last time this happened to me I sat back and it cost me three years of my life
14:57In Melbourne a passenger has returned from Iran with a large amount of prohibited food
15:03And quarantine need to decide what action to take
15:07It all boils down to the fact that the lady hasn't declared anything, anything at all
15:12Sweets, wooden articles, anything
15:14So, no matter how you pack, you're still ultimately responsible for filling the card out correctly
15:21And she just hasn't done it
15:23The total weight of all the prohibited food will be taken into account
15:27In deciding if a prosecution is necessary
15:32Okay, let's see what we've got here
15:34We've got one and a half kilos there
15:38These are prohibited, all these dried lemons
15:42So we've got exactly one kilo of those
15:46Officers discuss the case and decide a fine is the sufficient penalty for the undeclared prohibited food
15:53Now, I've spoken with colleagues and the decision today because there is so much food and so much prohibited food
16:01Today the fine is $220
16:06$220 is the standard fine because you had prohibited items
16:11I think it was a good result, I think the lady has learnt and I'm sure she will declare in
16:16future when she's travelling
16:29So you're refusing to answer any questions, is that what you're saying?
16:32I feel sorry
16:34A nervous passenger returning from Vietnam is struggling with the simplest of questions
16:40Now she's saying that she's very tired, can't answer these, she has to think too much
16:44When I'm answering these questions, they're very simple questions that most people can answer off the top of your head
16:49So generally that's a sign of somebody who's thinking too hard to formulate what they've got to say
16:56Which is generally a false response to a question
17:00Anything packing up?
17:02Or not?
17:02No, not yet
17:02We just have to leave things away now for now
17:04She's in a hurry to leave
17:06But officers will first have to frisk her
17:09Can I ask you a question?
17:10So everyone who have to travel overseas, come back and surf like this
17:13Or what's wrong with me or something
17:16Your story's very consistent when we're asking questions
17:19You're telling us one thing, then another, then another
17:22Next time I come back to surf again, or keep to do like this
17:26I'm not a shepherd
17:27And this is the last time, first and last, okay?
17:29I don't want any more like this
17:31Okay, surf here, and I hope you see first and last
17:34Can you finish now?
17:35Okay
17:35You're finished?
17:36Yes
17:36Okay, we're going to do a frisk search
17:38Do you consent to the search?
17:42Yeah, you can surf, whatever you would like
17:43This officer will do a frisk on you
17:46Anytime you want to say no, just say no, okay?
17:48Okay, I'm just going to come around here
17:51I'm just going to come around the back first
18:01I'm going to come around the front
18:12Do you have something, Matt?
18:14No?
18:14Nothing at all?
18:15What?
18:17Yeah, yeah
18:18What?
18:26In immigration, Jariz has just given Officer June a heart.
18:30heartfelt plea in private, as to why his visa should not be cancelled
18:35He became very emotional and was telling me the story
18:39about how he and his girlfriend met
18:41and her history just prior to their meeting.
18:45It's a very sad situation.
18:48And whilst I am empathetic to his situation,
18:52I have to consider his reasons for coming to Australia.
18:56I have to consider his previous overstay.
18:59His girlfriend has said that he's working in Thailand.
19:02I have to take all this into consideration.
19:06And make a decision about whether we'll cancel his visa or not
19:10based on the information that I have.
19:22If you have a look here, this is the decision record
19:27concerning the visa cancellation.
19:30In weighing up the grounds for cancellation,
19:32your responses and the evidence available,
19:35the reasons for cancelling the visa
19:36outweigh the reasons not to cancel.
19:39I have decided today to cancel your visa.
19:46Do I have another three-year ban now?
19:49As a result of this cancellation,
19:50there is a three-year exclusion period.
19:54Now, for another three years, I have to stay away.
19:57I don't know what to say.
19:59And now, this again is just another,
20:01it feels like another slap in the face to me.
20:28Officers believe this woman might be concealing something beneath her clothing.
20:33She went like that and then tried to step away.
20:35Did you notice when you were doing in-between,
20:37she went like that and tried to step away?
20:39Yeah.
20:39Yeah.
20:40So we're going to upgrade?
20:41I think we should.
20:43At this stage, it's difficult to actually get a good feel around that area.
20:49We're still not happy with the story that you've told us.
20:53We'd like you to come into the room.
20:55We'd like to talk to you further about it.
20:57So we'll just put your luggage on here and we'll take you to a room.
21:01The passenger is taken into an interview room.
21:08After further questioning, she admits there's a lot more to her story.
21:14She's revealed that she's had some issues with gambling, gambling debts,
21:18and that she does owe people some money.
21:20So there's more inconsistencies that are showing up.
21:24What we're looking to do now is to put all that together in a case for the AFP
21:29to come and have a look and talk to her
21:31with a view to possibly taking away for an internal examination
21:36to see whether she's carrying an internal concealment.
21:40The Australian Federal Police agree the woman could be carrying drugs internally
21:45and escort her to a hospital for an examination.
22:08Next week on Border Security.
22:11Wait till you see what's inside.
22:12Why do you have those?
22:14For my son.
22:15How old's your son?
22:17Two and a half.
22:18At this point, just because I've found that one,
22:20I'm just going to caution you.
22:22You do not have to say or do anything unless you wish to do so.
22:25Am I in trouble for something?
22:30That's Border Security.