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For Rolling Stone’s October 2026 cover story, Geese⁩ — the year’s most talked-about rock band — invited us into their top-secret recording and rehearsal space for their first on-camera interview since the stunning success of their 2025 album 'Getting Killed.' Singer Cameron Winter, guitarist Emily Green, drummer Max Bassin, and bassist Dominic DiGesu reveal the status of Winter’s highly-anticipated new solo album, the secrets of their live shows, their plans for the band going forward, and much more in a free-wheeling, funny conversation with Deputy Music Editor Simon Vozick-Levinson. The Brooklyn band share early memories of listening to Pink Floyd for the first time as teenagers, give it up to legends like the Beatles, and tell us which characters they play as in Mario Party. They also give us a very-real, definitely-not-joking tour of the rock & roll history behind their practice space.

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00:16Hey Rolling Stone viewers. I'm Max from Geese. This is our practice space. Please, come in.
00:26Let me give you a little tour around, show you some of the special objects we have. First here, we
00:33have a guitar case from about the 1880s, something around then. It's very ineffective. It's very old. It stinks.
00:43If our Rolling Stone viewers at home are familiar with Phil Collins, these were not his drums. Let's take a
00:52look over here at this beautiful amp we've got. As you can see here, it's got sort of a mold
00:59quality about it.
01:00We've got lots of spots and things that would make the average person sick, but for us, it makes us
01:07strong.
01:20All right. Thank you so much for joining us here. It's great to see you all again. So this is
01:24your first space of your own. That's exciting. I mean, how do you work here? Do you often, do all
01:28four of you come here and work together? How does it usually go?
01:30We don't work here. We don't spend much time here. I do. I do all the time. Yeah, Cam's here,
01:36but we also, like, have been... I'm the worker of the group. That's right.
01:41Everyone else just, you know, sort of plays with their toys and takes naps and, you know, enjoys the fruits
01:48of being in a band, you know, while Cam just slays away here.
01:52All the vices that come with rocks, blocks, trains. We're just flying around in private jets from New York to
01:59New York, you know, just fucking pouring gasoline down the drain and just smoking cigarettes and enjoying and many overindulgences
02:08while Cameron loses his mind here in this space.
02:11Cameron, I know you've been, you have been working here a lot. I know the last time we talked, you
02:14told me that you had just been here working. Tell me, how's that been going?
02:17It's been going okay. It's been going great. You'll all hear how it's been going before too long. I can't
02:23work in my apartment anymore because the walls are thin and stuff like that. Apartment 4B is not fond of
02:29my, you know, inflections.
02:32You've gotten complaints?
02:32The first day I was there, I made a horrible impression on my neighbors. I was just, like, stomping and
02:37dragging shit around. And the guy, like, this, like, veteran came upstairs. He was like, it's fucking 11 at night.
02:42I have work in the morning.
02:44And I was like, sorry, sir. He's a very sweet guy, though. He apologized to me the next day for
02:51yelling at me. He didn't know how much I needed that, you know.
02:55I know, I mean, people are very interested to hear about, you know, the new solo stuff you're doing. You've
03:00played some of those songs out at concerts. They've sounded amazing. Is any of that stuff getting close to a
03:04point where you're ready to kind of share it with other people or not yet?
03:08I've shared it with a few other people. And I stopped doing it because I think it's just, it's not
03:19useful for me. Like, people, I think most people that I've played it to, they kind of furrow their brow
03:25a little bit.
03:27And they're just like, so is this, this is going on the record, then? This is one of those songs,
03:34you know. And I, I don't think anyone's really liked it. I liked the little, uh...
03:40I haven't played it for you yet.
03:42You haven't played it for us yet.
03:44No, I haven't. Well, that's, you know, I don't, because I, I would think too hard about, you guys have
03:49opinions on it. It'll be what it is.
03:51I think it's easier to finish something if you sort of think of it as, like, sort of flirting with
03:56career suicide or something like that.
03:58I mean, it's the same thing with the band. Like, some people listen to it and they think, like, wow,
04:02this is really crazy weird out there.
04:03And then other people are like, this is the safest music I've ever heard in my life. You know, I
04:07don't know what, uh, what it sounds like anymore.
04:09I think everyone who ever listens to anything I make gives, like, completely opposite opinions on it.
04:14In terms of, like, quality and, and who it sounds like. So I have found, I've basically found all the
04:21praise and, you know, uh, uh, criticism in the world is kind of, it's like, just gets more and more
04:30useless, I think.
04:31How do you tune out all that noise? Because it does sound like a lot, you know, all of the
04:35reactions one way or the other. How do you kind of, you know, not let that intrude?
04:38It intrudes completely. No, it absolutely just, uh, corrupts from within. You'll be able to hear that on track four
04:47of this new project.
04:48You mentioned the idea of flirting with career suicide as a, as a motivating force. I mean, that's a technique
04:53that's worked for you in the past. Yeah.
04:56There are more efficient ways to commit career suicide. You know, I could do it in this interview right now
05:02if I really wanted to, you know, any moment.
05:06You know, Dom and Emily and Max, so you haven't heard any of Cameron's new music, which is fair, but
05:10are you, are you excited to hear it? Are you?
05:12Yeah, of course.
05:13Yes, definitely. I am.
05:16Of course I am.
05:16Get fucking ready, baby.
05:18I don't want to hear it till it's done.
05:20Yeah.
05:21I'm sure I've heard some of the songs because, like, we see him live sometimes. So it's just about, like,
05:26how he's going to record it and how it's going to sound when it's done.
05:28I get very attached to the first version of things I hear, so I'd rather just hear the, you know,
05:35the version that ends up going on the record.
05:38I feel like there's no point in any of us, like, pushing too hard about anything because, like, it's the
05:43same thing with anything because I, we know how, you know, out of hand shit gets when you have, like,
05:50a fucking untitled link floating around forever and it's just like, who's heard the record?
05:55So, you know, I don't know. I think keeping it, like, close to the chest feels like an effective way
06:05to do things. Also, like, we all do, we all are very opinionated.
06:14Up here we've got a Nicholas Claxton Nets jersey. He's no longer on the team. This was his jersey. It
06:24was game-worn in a game where he had 108 points and a quadruple double.
06:31These scissors belonged at one point to Ozzy Osbourne and then recently to Youngblood.
06:40This stick's from Bonham. This one is from Keith Moon. This is the star of the show here. This is
06:48our big box of screws that we have not put in anywhere yet.
06:52This one's from Lars. This one's from Dave Grohl. This, uh, this cowbell here was, um, recorded on, uh, We're
07:03an American Band.
07:04So when you hear the cowbell intro, that is this cowbell here. These are from Guitar Center.
07:13Let's talk about new Geese music, because I know the last time we talked, which was a few months ago,
07:18I think, you know, uh, I remember you guys telling me that there is, you know, there are some songs
07:22that you've worked on, that you started working on with Kenny after getting killed, that you were thinking about going
07:26back to at some point in the future. Where's that at now?
07:29Nowhere.
07:29No, guys.
07:30It's really nowhere.
07:31It's not even that we're, like, planning on going back and, like, doing something and putting it out. It's just
07:36that, like, those songs exist as, like, essentially very high-quality demos of, like, ideas.
07:43They could all come out at some point, but I don't anticipate that. Like, I don't know.
07:51We were sort of just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck, and then we ended up, not
07:55finishing, but, like, recording a full version of all of them. So it's, they're out there somewhere.
08:03We've been in tour mode, so it's, like, we play them every once in a while because we get bored
08:10of certain songs live, but besides that, it's, like, no real progress towards something has been made yet.
08:18And, like, it will. And it's, like, similar with Cameron songs. Like, they'll get worked on, but I don't know
08:24if they'll make it. You know what I mean?
08:25We're sort of milking this getting killed thing for all it's worth, you know? Just touring it again.
08:30Just exhibiting ourselves. Yeah, basically.
08:33What's kind of, like, an example of a song that took the longest from the first time you played it
08:36or demoed it to getting to a point where you felt like it was ready?
08:39We must have recorded Getting Killed quite a few times.
08:42Yeah.
08:42Title track.
08:43That's the one, I think.
08:44The rest we probably should have recorded more than once, but...
08:47Yeah.
08:48Islands of Men, too.
08:50I was thinking that. Maybe Cobra or something, but Getting Killed in Islands more so.
08:55I don't know. There's this, like, finite amount of time where they only exist, the songs only exist as recorded
09:01songs.
09:03And now I associate them a lot more with their live versions, and those have changed a lot.
09:11There's still more to be milked.
09:14There's still more to be milked.
09:16I'm milking that shit. I'm getting down on my hands and knees and milking.
09:19Utter ain't dry yet.
09:20That's right.
09:21Come to the Geese Show. We'll just milk it. We'll all get down and milk.
09:26And you'll love it.
09:28I hope you like 2%.
09:29You'll eat it all up. You'll buy all our merch.
09:31Doing the tour again is sort of like, you know, we went out as raw milk and we came back
09:35as just beautifully churned butter.
09:39Everyone's going to say, wow, there's just...
09:41We spent some time in the distaff and, oh my god.
09:43It's interesting what you said earlier about songs changing when you play them live and developing that way.
09:47What songs have kind of changed the most or, you know, developed the most?
09:51Trinidad.
09:52Yeah, Trinidad.
09:52Trinidad, yeah.
09:53Trinidad's like the one that just does not sound like the record very much.
10:01How do you approach playing Trinidad now that's different from how it sounds on the record?
10:04How would you describe what's different about it now?
10:06It's louder.
10:07It's even longer.
10:10It's...
10:10Drag it out a little bit to build the suspense.
10:14Well, people have been going so fucking, like, crazy for that song that it's...
10:18People are losing their minds for it.
10:20They just can't get enough.
10:21They can't.
10:21They simply can't get enough.
10:22Come to a geese show and you'll just see.
10:24They make it ten minutes long.
10:27It's sort of back to that butter-churning analogy.
10:29The crowd starts sort of churning in the middle.
10:32You can't just churn it for four measly minutes and expect to, you know, put it on some brioche.
10:37When you play live, I know you sometimes do the thing where you kind of, like, will throw in a
10:40snippet of a cover or a song that you...
10:42Like, I know you did, like, the Chicago song.
10:44How do you pick, like, you know, a song that you want to just...
10:46We never fucking do.
10:48We did it right before him.
10:49Right, yeah, right before we said, oh, Jesus, we did not think of a song.
10:52That's why all our covers sound horrible.
10:54Like, we haven't replayed, though, because we're just like, do you remember that song?
10:57Just try it.
10:58Oh, let's play this song.
10:59C, play it in C.
11:00Half the time, it's like, they come up with...
11:02Max and Cam, like, know the song, and they're like,
11:04Dom, it's easy.
11:05All you gotta do is just play C, and then it goes to D, and then eventually we're gonna go
11:08like,
11:08and then, and I just, like, I have to internalize it and then follow along.
11:13You do it.
11:14Yeah, yeah, no, it happens.
11:15You're in a goddamn rock band.
11:17You have to work for a living, for God's sake.
11:20You know.
11:21Has that ever, has it ever been, like, a disaster where it just doesn't?
11:23A thousand percent.
11:24Almost every time it's a disaster.
11:26Almost every time, and, but now the only thing, it used to be fun,
11:29but now we see it on, like, NME or something, like, us butchering Stone Roses,
11:33and then everyone's like, this is the band that everyone is supposed to like.
11:36Yeah, that's right.
11:36You know, we should just become a wedding band, honestly, and just do, like,
11:41the covers are really what's, you know, like.
11:43People either think we're, you know, like a sort of, like a covers band,
11:48or like a throwback, sort of classic rock thing, or they just think we're Goose.
11:54That's kind of the, like, that's kind of the vibe.
11:57They're really disappointed when we're not.
11:58I have to say, you're talking about, you know, playing 10-minute versions of songs,
12:02throwing covers in.
12:02It doesn't sound not like a jam band.
12:04Well, all rock bands are the fucking same.
12:07All right, all right.
12:07All right, God forbid a band jams a little bit, you know, at the end of the show.
12:13You know, if you didn't say for the encore, you wouldn't think that we were jamming.
12:18I mean, who am I kidding?
12:20Who am I kidding?
12:22We're jamming.
12:24We're a jam band.
12:25We're a jam band.
12:26Well, a band.
12:27We're not grateful, and we're not dead, though.
12:29Neither of those things.
12:31We are.
12:32All rock bands are the same.
12:33People think they're so different.
12:35You know, you go to a Fist show and a Radiohead show, they're not that fucking different.
12:38There's only like four kinds of bands.
12:40Well, if you go to any, well, if you go to any show, it's not that different.
12:43It's all fucking, like, music.
12:45It's all tones.
12:47It's all about the tone.
12:48If you go and see a show, it should be different, you know?
12:54You should have some fucking, like, what's the point?
12:57What is the point of putting on the show if I could just listen to the record at home
13:01and the show sounds exactly the same?
13:04It's the only difference is that I can look at you.
13:07Like, put on a fucking show, you know?
13:09I don't know.
13:10If we're going to jam, it's not for, you know, like the, man, like, I think this version
13:17of this is going to be the, like, definitive one that we put up on YouTube, whatever.
13:21It's like, we're doing it because we've played this fucking song 150 times this year, you
13:27know?
13:27And it's like, do we like doing that?
13:30Sometimes, you know?
13:31I don't know.
13:32It's what we do.
13:33It's what we do.
13:34It is.
13:34We do do that.
13:36Let me show you around our living space, shall I?
13:41If you don't know about this, Rolling Stone viewers at home get to know about this.
13:45This is what, you know, allows us to make the hits.
13:52Pretty understocked at the moment.
13:53We've got, you know, a Coke and some grapes.
13:58Some of these to keep it smelling good, but they're sort of taking a turn for the worse,
14:04as you can see here.
14:06But let's just throw those back in there.
14:08This keyboard was used on every Doors record.
14:14They don't know we have it, but now you viewers at home know that we have it.
14:21Here's my favorite book ever written.
14:24This would be New Chinese Art.
14:26You know, a lot of words for a book about New Chinese Art.
14:30But, as we can see here, some really powerful stuff, people.
14:36This was my great-grandfather's TV.
14:39He was one of the people that died in the crash the day the music died.
14:46He was the pilot.
14:48Let's take a look at our can here.
14:52It's unlined, and we just, you know, we do what we can.
14:58We do what we can.
14:59We like to use it, but it remains unlined.
15:03Let's take a look in here.
15:05We've got all of our cameras set up for when we talk to Rolling Stone magazine.
15:13You have a big tour coming up this fall.
15:16Do I understand this correctly?
15:17This is going to be your first tour with an actual tour bus.
15:19Is that right?
15:20We did one tour with an tour bus already in Europe.
15:22It's our first date.
15:23And it was amazing.
15:24I think I'm going to get better sleep on tour than I am right now.
15:29Yeah.
15:29No, it's a completely different...
15:31I think that's really the two, like, stratums of, like, being a band.
15:36I mean, because tour...
15:38Tour is the moment when you're most an actual band, you know.
15:43It's really brutal to, like, get in a van at any level where you're driving around in a van.
15:48Like, there's...
15:50That encompasses, like, a lot of room sizes, you know.
15:53Up to, like, maybe a thousand or a little more, like, capacities are playing.
15:58Down to, like, 50 people or whatever.
16:01So, I don't know.
16:02Are we just not going to do that anymore?
16:04It feels like we're not even a band anymore in a weird way, you know.
16:08Well, because part of what makes tour, like, feel so much like tour is doing all the, like...
16:15Tour is just, like, a gigantic road trip.
16:17It's, like, you don't really have much...
16:20Yeah.
16:21...doing.
16:22It's, like, going to these spots and, like, going to see the stuff that you like because you've been there
16:26before.
16:26And then, like, you play a show, but the show is such a small portion of what being on tour
16:33is.
16:34And then, like, when, you know, you get on a bus and you just go to sleep and you wake
16:37up and you're in the next place.
16:39It's, like, makes it feel so much faster.
16:42It's weird.
16:43It's a lot less, um...
16:45There's something to just having to be in a van with everybody for 12 hours, you know.
16:50Now we have all this crew, too.
16:52Like, we have this whole sort of machine.
16:55Like, our tour manager, like, finds an office or something like that and does paperwork, like, to do with the
17:01tours.
17:02We're shepherded into the buses.
17:03We're, like, accounted for, like, cattle in a fucking boxcar.
17:09And then, you know, we're just, like, a little marble getting, like, rolled into the fucking, you know, things like
17:15that.
17:16And it's great.
17:17Yeah.
17:17You know, everything, everything, I wouldn't have it any other way.
17:20Well, it's great, but it's so easy to, like, sleepwalk through the entire experience.
17:25Yeah, that's true.
17:25It's, like, you can sort of be done with tour and be, like, I can't believe I was in all
17:31of these places.
17:31It's just so distant from...
17:34It's the exact...
17:35All of a sudden, it turns into the exact opposite thing that it was for the last few years, where
17:39it's, like, you're kind of out on a limb with not that much of a...
17:43And even we've always had more of a safety...
17:45We've always been on the label.
17:46Like, we've had more of a safety net than a lot of people who just fucking get in the van
17:50and go.
17:51You know, like, but that's really how it feels for the longest time.
17:54It's just, like, you're just...
17:55You just go.
17:56You're just doing it.
17:57And then, all of a sudden, it's...
18:00You have a time and a place where to be and when.
18:03And it's easiest to just do whatever people tell you.
18:06And they will.
18:07You can't even be upset.
18:08Before, we used to sulk and stuff like that.
18:10Yeah.
18:10But if I'm, like, saying, there's, like, can I get you anything?
18:13You know, stuff like that.
18:14Because, of course, they're sweet.
18:15And, you know, they feel their job is to, like, take care of me.
18:18But, you know, I don't know.
18:22Half the time, you want to be taken care of and told what to do.
18:25The other half, you, like, just want everyone to go away.
18:27You know.
18:28I don't know.
18:30Go back on the bus.
18:31It's great.
18:32It's great.
18:32Hide in the coffin.
18:34We're very fortunate.
18:35We're very fortunate.
18:36You know, you've traveled the world on tour.
18:38You've been to all kinds of cool places.
18:40What's, like, the most exciting place you've gotten and been able to perform that you've
18:43liked the most?
18:45Japan, I think.
18:46Everyone really likes.
18:47That was the coolest thing ever.
18:48Crazy stuff.
18:50Pretty crazy stuff.
18:50No, air travel's unbelievable.
18:53Every time I go on, I think, like...
18:57I just don't know how it gets up there.
18:59I just don't know how...
19:00It's unbelievable.
19:02Like, the trip to Japan, you had to leave everything behind once upon a time.
19:07You...
19:08Everything you knew was gone.
19:10Forever.
19:11Just for some spices.
19:12Just for a few spices, Simon.
19:15Can you believe it?
19:17It's hard to believe.
19:18Cameron, is it true that you were studying Japanese?
19:19Are you still doing it?
19:20That's AI.
19:21That's AI.
19:22That's AI.
19:23That's true.
19:23That's AI.
19:24That's some nerd shit.
19:27Which part is AI?
19:28I did it.
19:29Everything.
19:29All of it.
19:30I don't know where you heard that.
19:33AI's getting really good, dude.
19:35It's getting good.
19:36It's getting really good.
19:37Just look at the coloring on that before we get into the nitty-gritty of the Devon here.
19:42Let's look at the build quality.
19:43As you can see, the amp has molded.
19:45It does have mold on it.
19:47But this remains firm.
19:51And that's just a testament to the build quality.
19:54Real deal shit.
19:55That's Swedish shit.
19:57This is what they put the serial killers on in Sweden.
20:00This thing.
20:01That's right.
20:02You don't want to do time in Sweden, or you'll end up on one of these things.
20:06The only thing that sets us apart from a Swedish prison is we don't have a PlayStation 5 in here.
20:12That's right.
20:12That's right.
20:13We're still working on it.
20:14And we're innocent.
20:15You have some really cool opening acts.
20:17Really interesting and varied opening acts.
20:19How did you choose those?
20:20Dude, I'm so excited.
20:21Easiest Star All-Stars.
20:23I'm so fucking excited.
20:23Easiest Star All-Stars is going to be sick.
20:25That is so awesome.
20:26Bill Orcutt's fantastic.
20:27I've loved him forever.
20:29He's so good.
20:30His old band, Harry Pussy, is so good.
20:33So good.
20:34We have Billy Woods opening one night.
20:36And that's going to be insane.
20:38I cannot believe he said yes to that.
20:39I don't think I would see Geese unless Billy Woods was opening.
20:42Yeah.
20:43And the Easiest Star All-Stars, I mean, they're great.
20:45They have so many cool projects.
20:47Do you have, like, a favorite one of their dub side of the moon, bro?
20:51The dub side of the moon is crazy.
20:52Come on.
20:52When did you first hear that?
20:54Yeah, the dub side of the moon.
20:55High school.
20:56Yeah, we were, like, 15 or 16.
20:57I remember listening to it, like, going to school.
20:59Dom put us all on.
21:00Yeah.
21:00Dom put us all on.
21:01Did I?
21:01Yeah.
21:02I think I put you all on.
21:03Yeah, I think he...
21:04I don't think it was me.
21:06It was me, guys.
21:07Come on.
21:08I brought it to the group.
21:09I was like, that new sound we've been looking for.
21:12It's right here.
21:13Also, have you heard of this thing, marijuana?
21:15It feels so good.
21:17You were all into actual Dark Side, like, the Pink Floyd album before that, right?
21:21Do you remember what it was like first hearing Dark Side of the Moon as teenagers?
21:24Oh, shit.
21:26I felt like opening my eyes for the first time.
21:29I felt like seeing it.
21:30Taking a friend of the man.
21:32You know those videos where, like, the colorblind people put on the colors, you know?
21:36I don't know.
21:36Like, listening to Dark Side of the Moon for the first time, dammit.
21:39I don't fucking know.
21:40No, it's just the first...
21:41It's the first, like, classic rock album that a lot of, like, teenagers listen to.
21:46I think it's...
21:47I was just talking about this with Danny the other day.
21:50He, out of nowhere, was just like, what's your favorite Pink Floyd album?
21:52I had to put down my drink, you know?
21:54It's really well-made.
21:55It's really clear what it's trying to do.
21:58It does it.
21:59When you're 13, you don't exactly know albums can do that.
22:02You know?
22:03Just, like, be one big monolithic, like, statement.
22:07And it just...
22:08So is that.
22:09So you cannot miss it.
22:11And so I think it's a good, like, first rock album.
22:14I mean, that's what's so interesting.
22:16I mean, that's...
22:16I feel like why people get into their music so deep when they're, like, starting to deep dive
22:22into classic records and whatever.
22:26It just...
22:27It changed...
22:28I think, at least for me, it changed how I thought of, like, oh, you could just kind
22:32of put four songs on an album and have them all be 20 minutes long and that's your album.
22:39Or you can put, like, a hundred fucking songs on it or something like that.
22:43Which I guess, like, I knew the Beatles could do, I guess.
22:46Like, not, like, a 20-minute song or whatever the fuck.
22:48But, like, you know, I was exposed to all that music when I was really young, but I just
22:52wasn't thinking about it in the same way.
22:55It's almost like a...
22:58Like, the Beatles for me until I went back and re-listened all that shit was, like, they
23:01might as well have been the Wiggles or something like that, you know?
23:04It's like my parents loved it and it was always playing and I ended up liking it, you know?
23:09But, obviously, I was gravitating towards, like, I like that Yellow Submarine song or
23:14whatever, you know?
23:15I didn't listen to their discography until I was out of high school.
23:19Yeah, that's great.
23:20Yeah, we made Emily listen to everything.
23:22It was, like, her homework for COVID.
23:24Yeah.
23:25You've always been the least interested in, like, sort of the nostalgic things that we,
23:30the rest of us are interested in.
23:31Yeah.
23:31You're more forward-facing, generally.
23:33I think that's, yeah, very much always been the case.
23:36But that, but that is the best band.
23:39I mean, it was such a, it was such a rewarding experience going through that catalog and I
23:44would listen to a record and then put it on a list.
23:47I would tear them out.
23:48When, the second I hit Rubber Soul, every album I listened to became my new favorite Beatles
23:53album, like, the next one.
23:55You know?
23:56I don't know, like, I listened to all the Pink Floyd records and then I went back and
23:59listened to the Beatles shit when I was, like, 15.
24:02It's just, like, are these guys still sick?
24:05And, yeah, they're dope.
24:07Yeah, they're fucking, the Beatles, dude.
24:08They're so sick.
24:10The Beatles fucking rule, dude.
24:11They're so good, dude.
24:12So the Beatles, they're sick.
24:14Why are we talking about the Beatles in Pink Floyd?
24:17This is, like, all we fucking talk about is just, like, it, you know, we, we put on a
24:22front for all of each other, you know, we'd, like, do all this shit that makes us look
24:25cool and then we're like, dude, the Beatles are so sick.
24:27Dude, the Beatles.
24:29Emily, what did you listen to in high school if you had not listened to the Beatles?
24:32What were you listening to in high school?
24:33I listened to...
24:34Animal Collective.
24:35I listened to a lot of Animal Collective.
24:37I tried, I tried to get, I tried to get these mugs to listen to Animal Collective in sophomore
24:42year and they would not buy it.
24:44Well, because when everyone tells you to listen to a band, you just, the last thing you want
24:47to do is listen to the band.
24:48And admit that it's really good.
24:50Yeah.
24:51Especially when you're 14 years old.
24:52Yeah.
24:53They're another, but they're another one of those bands that, like, they're so great because
24:57of the, like, variety of the shit they put out, which is the same reason the Beatles are
25:03good and the same reason that Pink Floyd is so good because, like, it's every one of those
25:08records, it feels very much like you could pick the song out from the record.
25:13Every song that's on it represents it so well, you know?
25:15But you wouldn't mistake it for any other band.
25:18It's just really impressive to do that you could make four records in a row.
25:22So, um, I'm thinking of Sung Tongs through Meriwether and they're, they're all incredibly
25:29distinctive and, uh, different from each other.
25:33And you couldn't mistake it as being made by any other bands.
25:36But, I mean, it's interesting the example of, you know, Animal Collective just as one
25:39example of, like, a band that changed a lot from album to album.
25:42Do you, do the four of you have that same ambition for Geese?
25:46Would you, you know, you've made three albums.
25:47Do you want to, do you hope that album four or five will be, will sound completely different?
25:50Yeah, we don't, it's not that we have, like, ambition to, like, go into it sounding different.
25:56Because you can always tell when that's the thing.
25:58Like, you can tell when people are really forcing themselves into something where they're
26:01not good at.
26:02Like, I think we just genuinely hate our past material so much that we just want to get
26:07away from it has, has been the pattern so far.
26:10I think it'll hold, you know?
26:12But also, I think, like, you know, we've done, we've done the, we were a fucking band in
26:17secret for, like, six years before this shit, you know, before anyone heard any of our music.
26:23So it was like, we did all of the weird, like, what if we made shit that sounded like Animal
26:28Collective or, like, LCD Sound System, you know?
26:31So it's like, it's, you can do that and it just doesn't feel like it comes from a very
26:40genuine place if you're just throwing shit.
26:43The reason that we don't want to repeat ourselves or whatever is because we can all, like, hear
26:49all the influences of all of the shit just shining through too much, you know?
26:53Music discovery has been so easy for us.
26:55Like, I still basically feel like we're all just, like, these sort of dilettantes who, like,
27:00you know, man.
27:00And I think the world is catching on, you know, where we just basically, we love music, we
27:06love showing each other stuff, we've had unfettered access to music and we've, you know, the internet,
27:14you know, it's not just pornography on there, you know?
27:18You have the noise music as well.
27:21And you listen to it, you know?
27:23Part of, part of getting into music and, and doing it now with, like, the internet is we
27:29have access to all of the fucking recordings and you have then access to all of the, like,
27:34demos of all of the stuff, you have access to all these fucking books about how it was
27:38recorded, whatever.
27:39So it's like, you can really just, if you wanted to make a record sound a certain way,
27:45you can just do it.
27:46You can go and look at a book and say, okay, great, they use these microphones in a room
27:50about this size with this gear.
27:51The Beatles, they wrote down every single day of their engineering, like, there's these
27:56big tomes you can get, obviously, that, like, you know, EMI, the engineers used to wear
28:01lab coats, you know?
28:02It was like a real sort of, like, Oppenheimer type fucking facility, you know?
28:07And they were cooking with gas in there, dude.
28:09They were cooking with gas, they'd write down where everything was, like, you can make it
28:12sound like the Beatles, but, like, you know, then you're just going to sound like the Beatles.
28:17Right.
28:17And not like yourself.
28:18And the Beatles sounded like themselves, you know?
28:21They had the good fortune of being the Beatles, you know?
28:23And they had, like, they wrote their own book.
28:27I think everyone should write their own book, ideally, you know?
28:31We say all this, and then we, like...
28:33Then we make shitty music.
28:34And then we make, yeah, shitty music, where we're like, I hope the people know this!
28:37No, but really?
28:39Really?
28:39I think it's, like, too many people, I think the way a lot of musicians work today, I
28:44understand, like, a lot of people, they just want to hire producers to make, like, the
28:50right decisions for them, or, like, another pair of ears to sort of filter it, and, like,
28:55not necessarily, like, risk horrible failure.
28:58We've got lucky, like, this is...
29:01James Ford is an incredibly talented producer, but that's...
29:04We hired him, and our label, like, asked us to hire him because we were really unsure
29:10of ourselves.
29:11Yeah.
29:11And we were really...
29:12We really just wanted a pro to make sure that things didn't go wrong.
29:15But you inevitably trade off something by doing...
29:19By not risking that everything goes wrong, you know?
29:22So I think we should just...
29:24I think the way we want to go is just, like, let's risk everything going wrong more often.
29:31It loops back to the career suicide thing, you know?
29:34Yeah.
29:34Like, in a very real way.
29:36I think that everything that music listeners hate is when a band decides to, like, play
29:42it safe, and it's what always fucking happens.
29:47It's no one wants anyone to repeat themselves, and no one wants anyone to play it safe.
29:51However, everyone loves repeating themselves and playing it safe, because it's, like, you
29:54know, there's...
29:56We want to fucking repeat ourselves and play it safe, but, like, we don't...
30:00We're not gonna do that, you know?
30:01Until...
30:01Not till the 2020...
30:03When is it?
30:04When's the next leap year?
30:07All right, here's...
30:08This is a really serious question.
30:09Um, I know that when you're recording, you're working really hard, you sometimes will take
30:13a break and play video games, right?
30:15What's your favorite game to play as a group?
30:18It's probably Mario's Party.
30:20This is private.
30:20This is private.
30:21I know, so I'm gonna cry.
30:23Just bleep this out.
30:24No, it's NBA 2K that you got.
30:26No, no, no.
30:27No, but as a group, though, it's just a switch game.
30:29They have a word for it.
30:30It's tooking.
30:31Tooking.
30:32They go in toque.
30:33What is this?
30:34Just lies.
30:34As in 2K.
30:35Maybe I do say that.
30:37Dom, toque?
30:38No, it's Party, though.
30:39I think Party is the game that's the biggest thing.
30:41Oh, damn, I do say that.
30:42It's Carton Party.
30:43I do say that.
30:44With that, we haven't done a game of Mario Party in a while.
30:47It's true.
30:48Also, that is definitely gonna break up the band sooner than any contractual dispute.
30:52We would break up the band over a game of Mario Party.
30:55Dominic, you told me that you're always Luigi, which makes sense.
30:57I'm curious, who does everyone else in Geese play as?
30:59How do you remember that?
31:00You told me that.
31:01I'm sort of a Monty Mole guy myself.
31:03I like the little guy.
31:04I play Donkey Kong a lot.
31:06I was probably Toad.
31:07I was probably Toad.
31:08Toad, yeah.
31:09Oh, yeah, true.
31:10Yeah, yeah.
31:11Right, right, right.
31:12Toad.
31:13Perhaps a Birdo.
31:14Right.
31:14Thank you so much.
31:16No problem.
31:18Come on.
31:19Clap it up, people.
31:21Clap it up.
31:21Clap it up.
31:22This whole computer setup here once belonged to Steve Jobs.
31:28And there's an Apple technician who comes by here every so often to just give us all the
31:35upgrades that Steve would have wanted.
31:37Thanks for stopping by, viewers at home.
31:40Yeah, what a nice coincidence this was.
31:42This was...
31:42That we were here at the same time.
31:44Crazy to catch us here.
31:45We're almost never here on account of...
31:48On account of we don't fucking practice.
31:50We don't practice.
31:51We don't like spending time with each other.
31:52Come over and see the Geese Tour.
31:55It should be being plugged into every single electronic device that you use at this moment.
32:02And you'll buy a ticket eventually.
32:04That's right.
32:04Just by attrition.
32:06Bye.
32:06All right, goodbye.
32:08See you next time.
32:09Leaving so soon.
32:11But we were just getting to the meat and potatoes of the tour.
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