00:00Day 21 ng impeachment trial ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:04Naging mainit ang batuhan ng argumento ng depensa at prosekusyon
00:08nang sumalang bilang hostile witness
00:10ang isa sa mga abogado ng Business Attorney Michael Powa.
00:14Ginit niyang wala siyang alam sa paggamit ng mga alias
00:17o kakaibang pangalan sa confidential funds.
00:20May report si Ian Cruz.
00:24Defense lawyer mismo ni Vice President Sara Duterte
00:27ang sumala ngayon bilang hostile witness ng prosekusyon.
00:32Si Attorney Michael Powa ang sinasabing
00:34ng hingin ng certification sa Armed Forces of the Philippines
00:37na isinama sa DepEd Liquidation Report.
00:40Kahapon, sinabi ng dalawang sundalo ng AFP
00:43na walang ibinigay na pera ang DepEd para sa kanilang maaktibidad.
00:47Ang ibinigay nilang certification ay para lang sa attendance
00:51at wala ro kinalaman sa confidential funds.
00:54I'm sure you agree na wala hong binigay
00:57kahit piso ang Department of Education sa AFP
01:02para maisagawa itong mga youth leadership summit nila.
01:09Yes, sir. I confirm that.
01:10The reason why you use this YSL certifications,
01:14ang words niyo, it was on the premise
01:17that whatever activity was conducted on the ground by the military
01:23was targeted because of information received from DepEd
01:26due to those rewards given out on the premise.
01:29Tama ho, sir?
01:30Yes, sir.
01:30Sa kanyang testimonya, sinabi rin ni Powa na si Vice President Sara Duterte
01:35at si Special Disbursing Officer Edward Fajarda
01:38ang tanging nakakaalam ng paggamit ng 15.5 milyon peso confidential funds.
01:45Kalaunan, nalaman niya na may alam din sa pondo si Colonel Dennis Nolasco
01:50ng Vice Presidential Security and Protection Group.
01:53Sa mga congressional hearing na lang din daw,
01:56nalaman ni Powa na ang security officer ang tumanggap ng confidential funds.
02:01Maturne ni Powa, lahat po ng ginawa niyo kaugnay sa pagsagot sa AOM
02:07ay nalalaman ng Vice Presidente.
02:09I came back to her and I briefed her on all of my answers to the AOM
02:14and she just said okay.
02:16Maka ilang bes ding napuputol ang testimonya ni Powa
02:19dahil sa mainit na debate ng depensa at prosecution,
02:23lalo na ng bansagan ng prosecution si Powa,
02:26na abogadong walang alam.
02:28He answered for P112.5 milyon pesos he knew absolutely nothing about.
02:34Sa mga inatasan ng Vice Presidente sumagot sa Powa,
02:38hindi ang SDO, hindi ang nagdisburse ng pera,
02:42hindi ang tumanggap ng pera,
02:44ang abogadong walang alam.
02:46Strike off the statement that ang abogadong walang alam.
02:50This witness, even while he has an obligation
02:53to answer relevant questions in this trial,
02:57he also has, under the rules, Rule 132,
03:03certain rights.
03:04And one of those rights is to be protected
03:06from irrelevant, improper, and insulting questions.
03:10And not only that,
03:12also to be protected from harsh or insulting demeanor.
03:17Chair hereby orders that the phrase
03:20abogadong walang alam be stricken off the record,
03:23Chair finds it discourteous to say the least.
03:26May pagkakataon din na sa bayan
03:28ang pagbabatuhan ng argumento
03:30ng defense at prosecution panel,
03:33kaya kailangan ng umawat ng presiding officer.
03:36You have to admit, you made some speculations there.
03:38So we have to...
03:39Sorry, I did not make speculation.
03:43I will point out with speculation.
03:46No, no, no.
03:46You're interrogating things I did not say.
03:48Attorney Sheila?
03:49Attorney Sheila?
03:50Attorney Paul?
03:50Your Honor, with all due respect...
03:52Let's give Attorney Jay some...
03:54He gave some scenarios,
03:57possible scenarios, a while ago, no?
03:59Na maaaring...
04:01Thank you, sir.
04:02Kahit natutunan mo,
04:03during that meeting,
04:04paano gamitin ang JC 2015-01,
04:07hindi mo ginamit yung kalaman na yan
04:08noong nagsubmit na kayo noong third quarter.
04:10It was not my responsibility, Your Honor,
04:12to handle the liquidation report.
04:14Yan, yun lang ang question ko.
04:15You did not, correct?
04:16I wouldn't know what they did
04:18with the liquidation report.
04:19No, I'm asking about...
04:20But I personally did not.
04:20Counsel is badgering the witness already.
04:24Counsel, all of you are lawyers.
04:26Kindly don't speak at the same time.
04:28Mahirap na nga po.
04:29Na may dalawang abogadong
04:32nagda...
04:33kakaroon ng tagisan ng talino,
04:35gawin po nating tatlo.
04:36Sa interjection ng Senator Judges,
04:38natanong din kay Powa
04:40ang tungkol sa mga kakaibang pangalan
04:42sa confidential funds.
04:44Are you aware, sir,
04:45na gumamit po sila ng mga fictitious?
04:47Hindi po eh.
04:48Binibigay sa akin yun ni Mr. Fajarda
04:50nung sisa-submit na sa akin
04:52in a sealed envelope.
04:53Sabi ko,
04:54ah, pwede ba ang pakita?
04:56Sabi sa answer kasi confidential yan.
04:58Sabi ko,
04:58kundi bigyan mo lang ako kahit isang sample.
05:00Para alam po naman kung ano yung sinusumitin natin.
05:02In unseal yung envelope,
05:03pinakitaan ako ng acknowledgement receipt.
05:06Ah, so,
05:07I don't remember any fictitious.
05:09Nakita ko po yung,
05:10yung mga names na,
05:12masabi natin kakaiba,
05:14noong congressional hearings na po,
05:17noong pinaflash sa screen,
05:20yung mga Mary Grace Piatos, etc.
05:24Nabanggit din ni Powa
05:25na wala siyang nakitang vault
05:26para sa confidential funds
05:28noong mga panahong undersecretary pa siya
05:31ng DepEd.
05:32Based on the joint circular,
05:34may vault ba as required?
05:35May vault ba yung DepEd?
05:37Opo.
05:38I mean,
05:39according to the joint circular,
05:41may vault na required.
05:42Yes.
05:42Ah, but ako,
05:43hindi ko po nakita yung vault na yun.
05:46Wala akong nakita yung vault
05:47noong nasa DepEd po ako.
05:49Samantala,
05:50pinag-iisipan ng prosecution
05:51na huwag nang isama ang Article 3
05:53tungkol sa umanay bribery
05:55sa Department of Education
05:56laban sa Bise.
05:59Ian Cruz, GMA News.
