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Just after they smashed The Ballroom stage at Reading 2026, rising Aussie indie stars Radio Free Alice caught up with NME backstage to talk about touring with Geese and the "genius" of Cameron Winter, their dark Anglophile sound inspired by New Order and The Smiths, moving to London, and what to expect from their debut album 'What's In Between'.

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00:05Hi, I'm Andrew Trendle. You're watching NME. We are here at Reading Festival 2026 with Radio
00:10Frealis. Hey, Andrew. How are you? How you guys doing? We're great. If I'm not mistaken,
00:16this is your second Reading, right? That's right. That's sweet. How do you guys find it? I mean,
00:22do you feel the weight of the legacy, the legend, the magic in the air at all times?
00:26It's a hefty weight to bear. Yeah, I feel like this is the one festival that being from Australia is
00:32so
00:33aware of. I mean, this is in kind of Glastonbury in a way, like Nirvana at Reading and these kind
00:37of like legendary gigs. So yeah, I really do. It carries a particular weight that other festivals
00:44don't as much in a way. How did your set go down today? Yeah, good. We were playing at 2
00:50p.m.
00:50so it was kind of, it was 2 p.m. But it was good. We were really happy with the
00:56crowd. It was a full
00:56tent. So that was crazy. That was sick. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of us behind you guys. I mean,
01:00and it's been a big year starting with you guys. You supported Geese in Australia back in February,
01:05right? I mean, how were those shows? What was it like to get kind of caught up in that whirlwind?
01:08It was amazing. It was crazy to kind of see Geese in person. I mean, Cameron Winter and Geese have
01:15just
01:15been on my phone just like incessantly. And then to see him like talking to him backstage was kind
01:21of strange. So topical. Like that was sick. I mean, it was amazing to see like the most talked
01:25about band in the world, like to share a stage with them. So it was amazing. Does he have linear
01:29conversations or does he go into like, I imagine you'd go into like different universes?
01:37No, it seems as you'd expect maybe. It was very, very super smart to me. Yeah. It was an interesting
01:44guy. I mean, I remember speaking to him about like, he played in Melbourne the night before
01:49just solo stuff and talking about how in Melbourne, there's a law where you have to have a support
01:54act. And he never has a support act when he does solo. So he brought on this like 10 year
02:00old child prodigy to come on and play like a piano sort of concerto before him. I was just
02:05like, it's just like a perfectly genius Cameron Winter idea. But yeah, it was lovely.
02:11That's such a classy move. And it's been a big summer for you guys kicking the shins banger,
02:16by the way, has been blowing up on the radio. Everyone's excited about the album. Do you guys
02:21feel a lot more eyes and ears on you right now? I don't know. It just feels like all of
02:26our
02:26eyes and ears are contained in the van that we move in. And we wouldn't really know if anyone
02:32was paying attention if they were. But what do you think? No, I mean, I feel like since obviously
02:37since we announced the album feels like there's maybe a lot more attention than there would
02:42be otherwise, which is equally, you know, anxiety inducing as very exciting to just to finally
02:48put it out. It's funny because with that kind of thing, it's so hard to kind of gauge eyes
02:53and ears because like our whole lives, it's like I just see like Michael Jules and Lockie
02:58and our tour manager and you just live in this little like echo chamber. So it's really hard
03:03to tell like how many people, if anybody cares. Every time we play a show and there's people
03:08rocking up, it's like, oh, there's a world outside of just the four of us and our van,
03:12you know? Yeah. Well, debut album, What's In Between? Get your plug in now. What's In Between
03:16coming October 30th. Am I right? A big chunk of the album was written in Joshua Tree, right?
03:23I wouldn't say a slice. A slice. A tasty slice. Yeah. We had a break last year on tour in
03:32America.
03:33We went out to Joshua Tree and we stayed in this crazy kind of area with this producer and his
03:38family. And I don't know if he was totally cool with the situation. It was like the most amazing
03:43writing session we've ever had. It was one of the best weeks of my life in a weird sort of
03:47way.
03:47It was in this valley in Joshua Tree. Were you like tapping into the spirit of Joshua Tree,
03:51pulling some forno moves, going to be a Josh Homme? Yeah. I'm not the type of person that would
03:56say that, but if I was, yes, we were. And where would you say the album takes your sound from
04:03what
04:03we've heard so far? Yeah, I'd say because, I mean, a lot of the songs, they weren't all written
04:07like at the same time, you know, a lot of, they're all written like, you know, some of
04:11them were written two years ago. A couple of them were written a month ago. A lot of them
04:15weren't written with the intention of being an album, like, you know, on the album. A lot
04:20of it is sort of just jams we've done over the years. So I think it's very, it's a bit
04:26of
04:26a mixed bag. Yeah. I think you can expect a sound very similar to what we've got out already
04:32at the moment. Um, but I think it's, it's, it's a, it's a step in, in a, in a slightly
04:38different direction. I'm not, I can't, I'm not sure exactly what that direction is. You
04:42know, it's, it's, it's the album's still very melodic. Um, but I think it's a lot more considered.
04:48I think it's a lot more intentional. Um, and, uh, and yeah, I think we're all really proud
04:54of it and we're very excited. Sweet. Yeah. You guys have said that your kind of core shared
05:00tastes are like new order, the jam, the house martins and people have like noticed echoes
05:06of like the cure and the Smiths. It's a really, it's really cool. It's like kaleidoscopic indie,
05:12um, and ultimately catnip for miserable British indie fans. You're a magnet for miserable
05:17British indie fans. The crack for cats. So I just wonder, are you guys, uh, would you
05:21consider leaving Australia and moving to Manchester living in the rain? Well, I, well, we, we,
05:26we are, um, I mean, we, we love Australia. We've grown up there, but I think we're, we're
05:31quite excited with the prospect of moving to London and we're all already, um, looking
05:35for places. Um, some of us have found places. So we've kind of already made the move.
05:40What have been, how are you finding London rent prices? Oh yeah. Brutal. Very brutal.
05:45Yeah. Yeah. You, you've just, Noah's just moved into Bo. Uh, do you know Bo? Yeah. Yeah.
05:52Yeah. Yeah. It's just a good part of town. But yeah, rent is tough. Particularly, I'm
05:56trying to navigate like touring and being on a lease. I don't know. It's really boring.
06:03Please buy this album. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And make next month's rent.
06:08Lyrically, would you say there's like a thread or a character to the album? I'm like, what kind
06:11of, I don't know, but it's hard to say, but I, I kind of, I almost have as much idea
06:19as
06:19anybody else does. Cause I don't really write with, with the intention of like, I want to
06:23explore that idea. Um, but looking back, like I'm, I've always been a sucker for anything
06:31coming of age, to be honest. Uh, even my, a lot of my favorite movies growing up, like
06:36John Hughes vibes. Yeah. But there is, there is a theme of, I would say there is a theme
06:41of, I don't know, dispossessed young person. Oh, there's, there's amongst others, but there
06:49is definitely that thing. I've been told, um, and it, and it is true.
06:53Dispossessed young person needs to make rent. Please help.
06:57Exactly. And, um, the album's out the day before Halloween. You got plans for a spooky Halloween
07:02shenanigans release party. I haven't thought that far ahead. I'm going to be scared enough
07:07just with the, with the release. If you were going to do a Halloween party, what would
07:11you guys address us, do you think? It's a great question. Three minions.
07:16A little minion. I mean, yeah. I don't suit me for some reason. I go, yeah, for some reason.
07:22I go, it's rude. That'd be Gru. That'd be Gru. Yeah. Sweet. I can see it. Rita Frealis,
07:28thank you so much. Thank you so much for having us. Appreciate it.

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