00:00We used to, you know, hop out the window in Santa Barbara, and then we'd drive down in a van,
00:04and parents didn't know, at 12, you know, midnight, and go down to Godzilla's,
00:09which would be like CBGB's in New York, and watch amazing bands,
00:14Beer Guts, and Circle Jerks, and Black Flag, and...
00:18Black Flag, that's pretty cool.
00:19Do you remember, like, that gig, or what it was like?
00:22Oh, yeah, man.
00:22What's the play on your mind?
00:23It was amazing, dude.
00:27I can teach you things.
00:30I'll give you all the tools.
00:35You can do whatever you want.
00:38Anything you want.
00:40Hi, I'm Alex from Enemy, and today I'm joined by one huge Hollywood megastar,
00:43and one young actor who's well on his way to becoming one.
00:46It's Austin Abrams and Josh Brolin.
00:48How are we doing?
00:49Good.
00:49Good, man.
00:50Excellent.
00:50Whale Falls brilliant, by the way.
00:51My first thought was that it's a bit like Jaws,
00:55in that it's a film about a whale, but it's not really about a whale, is it?
00:59Sure.
00:59It's about the relationship between your character and his dad, played by Josh.
01:02My first question is,
01:04because your character is taught how to die by Josh's character,
01:08is there one thing that your own dad taught you,
01:11like a skill or maybe a lesson that you still use today?
01:14You know what?
01:15My dad had a love,
01:16this is so not really on par,
01:18but my dad had a love of racing that I still hold dear.
01:21And I grew up around racetracks and drag tracks and all that kind of stuff.
01:27And motorcycles.
01:28Yeah, not something that I would recommend some dad teach their kid.
01:32Well, that's...
01:33Dangerous things.
01:33I was actually looking for pictures of you when you were a teenager,
01:36because I've got a couple of questions about punk rock and stuff like that later.
01:38And I found a couple of pictures of you on a motorbike with like a bandana on it.
01:44And I thought, that's pretty cool.
01:45So you still ride motorbikes then?
01:46Oh, yeah.
01:4837 knucklehead,
01:4956 panhead,
01:5168 shovelhead.
01:52These are just words to me in numbers.
01:54That's okay.
01:55The people who need to know will know.
01:58I got on one of his bikes and it was insane.
02:01He did.
02:02He did.
02:02It was crazy.
02:03While you were on set?
02:04No, no, no.
02:05Different, different, different time.
02:06He came to my house.
02:07Yeah.
02:08Tell me about that.
02:09That's been pretty cool.
02:10It was,
02:10it was just,
02:11it was a beast.
02:12It was a real beast.
02:14Yeah.
02:14They have personalities.
02:16Yeah.
02:16They do.
02:17Yeah.
02:18Was he good at riding a bike first time?
02:19No,
02:20it didn't.
02:20We didn't ride.
02:21Yeah, I wouldn't ride that guy.
02:23That's too nervous.
02:25But I love the chopper community.
02:28That's what,
02:28yeah,
02:28I always have.
02:29Josh,
02:29like I said,
02:30you were pretty into punk rock as a teenager,
02:31weren't you?
02:32Yeah,
02:32no, no, no.
02:33Very,
02:33extremely.
02:34Did you run into any famous LA punk bands?
02:37Yeah,
02:38I mean,
02:38Circle Jerks,
02:40Dead Kennedys,
02:41Wasted Youth.
02:45There was a band that I grew up with,
02:47Rich Kids on LSD,
02:48RKL,
02:49Yeah,
02:49Jason Sears,
02:50who was my best friend.
02:51But you were in an early version of that band,
02:54weren't you?
02:54I was in a,
02:55yeah,
02:56a really bad garage version called,
02:59I think we called ourselves Cito Vice Squad.
03:02It was super dumb.
03:03And you were on drums,
03:04right?
03:04I was drums,
03:05but I wasn't a good drummer
03:06and then Bomber came in,
03:08I won't go off on a whole tangent,
03:09but Bomber came in
03:10and was an amazing,
03:12amazing musician,
03:13like all self-taught,
03:14could play the bass,
03:15could play the,
03:16you know,
03:17the guitar,
03:17he could play the drums,
03:18play the piano,
03:19he composed later,
03:21it was amazing,
03:22amazing.
03:23Yeah,
03:24and we're doing a documentary
03:25on those guys right now.
03:26Oh, wow.
03:26On Rich Kids on LSD.
03:29And talking to Amy Berg
03:31about the LA punk scene,
03:32we used to,
03:32you know,
03:33hop out the window
03:34in Santa Barbara
03:35and then we'd drive down in a van
03:36and parents didn't know
03:37at 12,
03:38you know,
03:39midnight
03:39and go down to Godzilla's,
03:41which would be like
03:43CBGB's in New York.
03:44Yeah,
03:44yeah,
03:44yeah.
03:44And watch amazing bands,
03:46Beer Guts
03:47and Circle Jerks
03:49and Black Flag.
03:50Black Flag,
03:51that's pretty cool.
03:52Do you remember
03:52like that gig,
03:53what it was like?
03:54Oh, yeah, man.
03:54Must have blown your mind.
03:55It was amazing, dude.
03:57It was amazing.
03:58It was like people
03:58that I talked to
03:59who were CBGB's
04:00singing Ramones
04:02for the first times
04:02and New York Dolls
04:03for the first times.
04:04It was just amazing.
04:05But I think
04:06we were really motivated
04:08by Sex Pistols.
04:09Oh, really?
04:10I think that
04:10that was probably
04:11the band
04:12that initiated it all.
04:14Which,
04:15speaking about Johnny Rotten,
04:16that actually leads me
04:16to my next question
04:17because I was trying
04:18to find a picture of you
04:19as like a young punk
04:20purely because of this
04:21quote I read
04:22which is you describing
04:23your haircut at the time
04:24which is a peacock
04:26which is a very high mohawk
04:28and you bleached
04:29the top of it
04:29which burned your head.
04:30Yeah, it didn't burn
04:31my head at the top of it.
04:33Just the bleach
04:33touching my head.
04:35I remember that
04:36really specifically.
04:37But yeah,
04:37how old was I?
04:38I don't know,
04:3814?
04:40When I had a mohawk?
04:4113?
04:42I guess the next question
04:43is are you going to
04:43bring that back?
04:44Am I going to bring back
04:45the mohawk
04:46as a 58-year-old dude
04:48who's in Whalefall?
04:50Just the Josh Brolin version.
04:51Yeah, I would do it
04:52in a second.
04:53I mean,
04:53I just,
04:53after this movie,
04:54I had long hair
04:55in this movie
04:55and I shaved my head.
04:57It was very liberating.
04:59It was very liberating.
05:00I felt very punk.
05:01Austin,
05:01have you got any
05:02past band
05:03sort of stories?
05:04Maybe you were in one
05:04when you were a teenager
05:05that we don't know about?
05:07No,
05:07nothing that was shared.
05:08Tears for tears.
05:11But you do play guitar though,
05:12I think, right?
05:13Who told you that?
05:13Do you?
05:14Yeah, I do.
05:14You told someone
05:15in an interview
05:15that was your great mistake.
05:17Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:18No,
05:18I've played it,
05:19I've played guitar
05:21in some shows.
05:21I think I've played it
05:22in the show Penelope
05:24that was on Netflix,
05:25like a Duplass thing.
05:27That's cool.
05:28Yeah,
05:28I think I played it
05:29in Brad Status
05:30a little bit.
05:31And I've also got
05:31heard that you wrote
05:32some songs
05:32you said in an interview once.
05:33I mean like,
05:35I mean like the one
05:36in Penelope
05:37was basically like,
05:40I think it was
05:40Mark Duplass
05:41and I basically
05:42wrote that
05:43kind of together.
05:44That's cool.
05:45Yeah,
05:45kind of like sharing
05:46some,
05:47yeah,
05:47little ideas.
05:48I mean what this is saying
05:48to me is that we need
05:49a whale form album
05:50basically,
05:51you on drums
05:51and you on guitar.
05:52Gosh,
05:53that would be interesting.
05:54That would be a cacophony
05:55of noise.
05:57Maybe some motorbikes
05:58sort of just
05:58the opposite maybe.
05:59Yeah.
06:00The idea of being
06:01in a band though
06:02is always great.
06:03I mean you see
06:04a lot of actors
06:05that try to have
06:06like side gigs
06:07and all that
06:08and I get it.
06:09It's not,
06:10it's not great
06:11for everybody
06:11but I get it.
06:12I mean like,
06:13but even your daughter
06:14is a real,
06:14my daughter has,
06:15my daughter just
06:16went on tour.
06:17She just finished
06:17her last tour
06:19Atta Boy.
06:20Yeah,
06:20and she's had
06:21five albums.
06:22Dude,
06:23they're a great band.
06:23She does well.
06:23I've got one final
06:24question that we always
06:25ask everyone
06:26that everyone gets
06:26to answer.
06:28What's an album
06:29that you always
06:29go back to?
06:30If you had to pick
06:30one album
06:31and you could only
06:32have that one,
06:32what would it be
06:33and why?
06:34I mean I was just
06:34listening to Ziggy Stardust
06:36as an album.
06:38There's a record player
06:39in my room
06:40and I was just listening
06:41and that,
06:42like,
06:42I didn't want to listen.
06:43I saw Ray Charles
06:46on there,
06:46I saw Dylan
06:47on there,
06:48I saw,
06:48you know,
06:48I had my choices
06:49and I put on
06:50Ziggy Stardust
06:51because I know
06:52close by
06:53that I think
06:54like two
06:56streets over
06:56is where
06:58Bowie recorded.
06:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:59Right?
07:00Yeah, yeah.
07:00So I just thought
07:01of that
07:01and I was like,
07:02oh, I'll put on
07:02Bowie
07:03and it's just so good
07:04and then suddenly
07:05you just transformed
07:07into this
07:08other place.
07:09What about you,
07:10Austin?
07:10Gosh.
07:10I mean,
07:11maybe like an early
07:12Dylan one
07:13or something like that.
07:15um,
07:16Highway 61
07:17or before that
07:17do you think?
07:18Uh,
07:19I think
07:19maybe before.
07:20Yeah.
07:21Yeah.
07:21Like it was acoustics.
07:23Ten,
07:24Pearl Jam.
07:24I was,
07:25I actually knew
07:26that you liked Pearl Jam
07:26and I thought
07:27you were going to
07:27pick a Pearl Jam
07:28on an album.
07:28No,
07:29but,
07:30yeah,
07:31Ten,
07:32that changed my,
07:33that was early 20s.
07:34That changes
07:35your whole trajectory.
07:37It's amazing
07:38when music
07:38changes the trajectory
07:40of how you see
07:41everything.
07:42Do you know
07:43what I mean?
07:43Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:43Dylan had that.
07:44Like the first 30,
07:47my son,
07:48when,
07:48my son,
07:49who's 38 now,
07:50when he first started,
07:51his,
07:52his introduction
07:53to language
07:54was Bob Dylan.
07:56Before he could speak,
07:57he probably learned
07:5930 Dylan songs
08:00and knew the lyrics
08:01to,
08:01by heart,
08:03to 30 Dylan songs.
08:04And then he started
08:05like having conversations
08:07after that.
08:08In the Dylan voice.
08:09No.
08:10Hey,
08:10Dan,
08:11how you doing?
08:12What's up?
08:12I feel like a dude
08:13actually had to say
08:14Abbey Road,
08:14now that if I'm
08:15really thinking about it,
08:16man.
08:17I'm also here in London.
08:18But like,
08:19God,
08:19that,
08:19yeah,
08:20that album is,
08:21I love that.
08:22Now that's a good
08:22record collection,
08:23but thanks so much
08:24for chatting to me.
08:24Thanks, man.
08:25Thanks, man.
08:44Survivors,
08:45survive.
08:47I'm not here in the city,
08:47I'm not here in the city.
08:47I'm not here in the city.
08:47I'm not here in the city.
08:47I'm not here in the city.
08:49I'm not here in the city.
08:49I'm not here in the city.
08:50I'm not here in the city.
08:50I'm not here in the city.
08:50I'm not here in the city.
08:51I'm not here in the city.
08:51I'm not here in the city.
08:52I'm not here in the city.
08:52You
