00:00I want to stick to smash the patriarchy because, you know, I'm also deeply invested in it.
00:05Because I'll tell you why, not what Rahul Gandhi said at all.
00:07I'm just, as a woman, invested in women empowerment.
00:11So I will ask you another question.
00:12Today itself, sir, because there are so many times your party has gone out and struck a reconciliatory chord.
00:21Yet you have certain members of your party, and I'll give you an example.
00:24One advertisement comes out, sir, of Kriti Sanan, where she is dressed in an outfit which is revealing.
00:32And she's tying rakhi to someone.
00:33There is a full social media campaign and bullying.
00:36And a part of it is your MPs like Kangana Ranaut.
00:40Again, I'm coming to you back.
00:43If she has the right to do certain things, if there is criticism, that is also part of freedom.
00:49How can you restrict that?
00:50Sir, that advertisement has been pulled down.
00:52That is another issue, that this is a commercial issue, I don't get into that.
00:56My point is, if you have freedom to express things as per your choice,
01:01why are you restricting others from disagreeing or opposed to that?
01:05I 100% agree with you.
01:07That everyone, everyone has a freedom of expression.
01:10But when a parliamentarian, and I'm talking about your colleague Kangana Ranaut.
01:16Don't restrict freedom to the parliamentarian.
01:18Freedom is there for every Indian.
01:20Okay, so it's freedom for Kangana Ranaut to take on Kriti Sanan and say that you should have been better
01:26address.
01:26Why are you restricting to Kangana Ranaut?
01:27Kangana Ranaut is a first term MP, very junior.
01:30And sometimes I will tell her how to function in a parliament business and other things.
01:37But you are a minister, you are the parliamentary affairs minister.
01:40As a parliamentary affairs, I can guide for parliamentary procedure, but I can't guide her what to speak, what not
01:46to speak.
01:47I agree.
01:47These are personal choice.
01:49But should some leader show restraint?
01:51And I'll give you another example.
01:52At the same time, when the prime minister was striking such a reconciliatory throne of forgiveness with students,
01:58At the same time, you had certain ministers like her again, who called Gen Z gutter generation.
02:04No, no, that I heard it.
02:05She didn't say that.
02:06She says that those who abuse, not everybody, she clarified it.
02:10Later clarified it.
02:11The prime minister has shown his big heart.
02:14Just imagine 17 years old, 18 years old girls abusing prime minister and his mother.
02:23Is it Indian culture?
02:24You can criticize.
02:26You can oppose.
02:27Why are you abusing the prime minister and the dead mother?
02:32If we try to defend such culture, I'm sorry, we are misguiding the youth.
02:38But if we promote or we applaud such abuse and such languages, it will not be...
02:45I agree.
02:45There should be no space for abuse in this country, and you're very right.
02:49But I also think, and I hope you'll agree with me, that both boys and girls are equal in that
02:54ethos.
02:56I'm saying during the protests.
02:57Right.
02:58Whoever...
02:58Whoever.
02:59So it can't be just because the girls abuse, they are worse off than the boys.
03:02No, the girls' videos are shown more.
03:03That's why people say that girls should be more docile.
03:05But for me, boys, girls should be equal.
03:07Equal, right?
03:07I'm glad you're saying it.
03:09Thank you for saying it.
03:10It's really important.
03:10Because, you know, just because a girl abuses...
03:13I'm not saying abuse is right.
03:14Abuse is wrong.
03:15One should never abuse.
03:16I will never, never, ever remain silent if somebody abuses.
03:21I will tell you that that's wrong.
03:23You can't be quiet.
03:24And it's equal for both.
03:26But the prime minister is so forgiving.
03:29You have given me so much, my mother's wife.
03:35Then let's forget the old thing.
03:41You have given me so much, my fatherly figure, the prime minister will give so much of space
03:46and so much of heart out.
03:48You did listen to the students, and you did, for whatever reasons were best at that time,
03:53accept their demands.
03:54So, but in terms of narrative, I want to ask you a very straight question, sir.
03:58Is there a perception that the BJP lost the narrative war during the Gen Z protest?
04:03We are not working for narrative.
04:05We are here to serve the citizens, serve the nation.
04:09If we are busy building the narrative, who will govern the country?
04:14People of the nation have given such a huge mandate to Modi for the third time.
04:19Modi has said that in Modi 3, we have to perform three times faster than what we have done in
04:27the first two times.
04:28That is our focus.
04:30We are not here to build narrative and build a different kind of a story.
04:34Okay, let me ask you this in a different way, because you spoke of the RSS.
04:38Yes, the RSS chief in a public meeting said, and I want to quote here so I don't get it
04:47wrong,
04:48Jantar Mantar exposed the systematic flaws in the government.
04:53Failure in the system was there.
04:56So you accept there was a systematic flaw.
05:02If there was a certain improvement or certain reforms required, that is why new law was brought in.
05:11If everything is perfect, you will never need parliament to make another law.
05:16It is evolving.
05:18It is all dynamic.
05:18And we listen to the people.
05:21We are the people who are there because people wanted us to govern this nation.
05:28So we have to listen to them.
05:29We are not there from the aliens.
05:31I'm going to ask you another question.
05:33A lot has been said about excessive force.
05:36You say that no bullets were fired.
05:38But on the 23rd of July, sir, the Delhi police, where the RAF was concerned,
05:43there are two diary entries which say that two rounds of pellet guns were fired under the order of a
05:49DCP.
05:49This is official documentation.
05:54I have counted many agitations, 30-40 agitations, where people were killed during Congress time.
06:01True.
06:02In this agitation, you also have followed this agitation closely.
06:06There was no loss of lives, which is such a relief for us.
06:12Congress, Congress, when it comes to Congress, there are so many agitations.
06:15That is why I give the example.
06:17Whether it's Gujarat or Punjab or Telangana or UP or Assam or anywhere during Congress time,
06:24whenever there was large-scale protests and agitation,
06:28there were always police firing and there were always cases of death.
06:34Some people died.
06:36One or two, thousands of people died.
06:39But in this government protest, there was no one student or human knowledge of a student or a person's knowledge.
06:46There was no big deal.
06:48There was so big protest.
06:50When the government was in the government, the police stopped.
06:54The police stopped.
06:55The police stopped.
06:55The police stopped.
06:58The police stopped.
06:58And you go to the parliament.
07:00It was a basic thing.
07:02You know.
07:03This is not the order of the home minister, the police has a manual, that when you have
07:08a 144 declaration or a restriction, or whenever the court says that the protest is illegal
07:17or beyond a point, the area is a protected area, then the police will act as per the
07:25law, as per the manual.
07:28The home minister doesn't give the order for firing.
07:30It's a basic part of the commandment.
07:33But overall, the management of the responsibility is the government.
07:37That is why I said, if you just open up the old cases of agitations in India, thousands
07:45of people were killed by the police firing and all were under Congress regime.
07:50And in this protest, not a single life was lost.
07:55And that is a professional management of Delhi police.
07:58If we have to do the police, who will give the police tomorrow?
08:03If anything happens, we will give the police to the police.
08:06At night, the police will also say the law and order problems, and the police will call it.
08:12The police is our security.
08:14The police is our Cashew.
08:16If we do police, we don't just love the police, we don't want to protest it.
08:20If you protest it, I should protest it, then we should do it.
08:22So why do you fight the power of the parliament, and why do you fight the police?
08:27So the police did also me to get to restrain.
08:29When they kill it, then they also do the police.
08:32And the police do the police?
08:50Even in this, it's the DCP.
08:52The DCP had order.
09:06If you're a leader of opposition, then you should behave like a leader of opposition.
09:10Your languages must have weightage.
09:12If you're a leader of opposition, then you'll come to the parliament, take a photo of God and keep it
09:20on the ground.
09:21You shouldn't do that.
09:23I think it's a very horrible.
09:24This is a parliamentary democracy.
09:26People have created it.
09:28Parliamentary democracy is all about people.
09:30And we are here to serve the people.
09:33Democracy means people.
09:35And if you're elected as a man, what do you learn?