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During a discussion on recent public demonstrations, the Parliamentary Affairs Minister addressed questions regarding freedom of expression, parliamentary conduct, and government accountability. Responding to controversies surrounding public comments and commercial advertisements, the minister emphasized that while freedom of expression applies to all citizens, parliamentarians are guided on procedures rather than personal choices. The conversation shifted to the Gen Z protests at Jantar Mantar, where the minister defended the law enforcement response. It was highlighted that police personnel acted strictly according to established operational manuals and law enforcement protocols to protect secure zones like Parliament, without direct orders from political executives. The minister contrasted the recent handling of demonstrations with past political regimes, emphasizing that zero lives were lost during the recent events despite large-scale mobilizations. Furthermore, the minister criticized political opponents for spreading unverified claims regarding police action and urged leaders to maintain dignity, responsibility, and respect within parliamentary democracy.

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00:00I want to stick to smash the patriarchy because, you know, I'm also deeply invested in it.
00:05Because I'll tell you why, not what Rahul Gandhi said at all.
00:07I'm just, as a woman, invested in women empowerment.
00:11So I will ask you another question.
00:12Today itself, sir, because there are so many times your party has gone out and struck a reconciliatory chord.
00:21Yet you have certain members of your party, and I'll give you an example.
00:24One advertisement comes out, sir, of Kriti Sanan, where she is dressed in an outfit which is revealing.
00:32And she's tying rakhi to someone.
00:33There is a full social media campaign and bullying.
00:36And a part of it is your MPs like Kangana Ranaut.
00:40Again, I'm coming to you back.
00:43If she has the right to do certain things, if there is criticism, that is also part of freedom.
00:49How can you restrict that?
00:50Sir, that advertisement has been pulled down.
00:52That is another issue, that this is a commercial issue, I don't get into that.
00:56My point is, if you have freedom to express things as per your choice,
01:01why are you restricting others from disagreeing or opposed to that?
01:05I 100% agree with you.
01:07That everyone, everyone has a freedom of expression.
01:10But when a parliamentarian, and I'm talking about your colleague Kangana Ranaut.
01:16Don't restrict freedom to the parliamentarian.
01:18Freedom is there for every Indian.
01:20Okay, so it's freedom for Kangana Ranaut to take on Kriti Sanan and say that you should have been better
01:26address.
01:26Why are you restricting to Kangana Ranaut?
01:27Kangana Ranaut is a first term MP, very junior.
01:30And sometimes I will tell her how to function in a parliament business and other things.
01:37But you are a minister, you are the parliamentary affairs minister.
01:40As a parliamentary affairs, I can guide for parliamentary procedure, but I can't guide her what to speak, what not
01:46to speak.
01:47I agree.
01:47These are personal choice.
01:49But should some leader show restraint?
01:51And I'll give you another example.
01:52At the same time, when the prime minister was striking such a reconciliatory throne of forgiveness with students,
01:58At the same time, you had certain ministers like her again, who called Gen Z gutter generation.
02:04No, no, that I heard it.
02:05She didn't say that.
02:06She says that those who abuse, not everybody, she clarified it.
02:10Later clarified it.
02:11The prime minister has shown his big heart.
02:14Just imagine 17 years old, 18 years old girls abusing prime minister and his mother.
02:23Is it Indian culture?
02:24You can criticize.
02:26You can oppose.
02:27Why are you abusing the prime minister and the dead mother?
02:32If we try to defend such culture, I'm sorry, we are misguiding the youth.
02:38But if we promote or we applaud such abuse and such languages, it will not be...
02:45I agree.
02:45There should be no space for abuse in this country, and you're very right.
02:49But I also think, and I hope you'll agree with me, that both boys and girls are equal in that
02:54ethos.
02:56I'm saying during the protests.
02:57Right.
02:58Whoever...
02:58Whoever.
02:59So it can't be just because the girls abuse, they are worse off than the boys.
03:02No, the girls' videos are shown more.
03:03That's why people say that girls should be more docile.
03:05But for me, boys, girls should be equal.
03:07Equal, right?
03:07I'm glad you're saying it.
03:09Thank you for saying it.
03:10It's really important.
03:10Because, you know, just because a girl abuses...
03:13I'm not saying abuse is right.
03:14Abuse is wrong.
03:15One should never abuse.
03:16I will never, never, ever remain silent if somebody abuses.
03:21I will tell you that that's wrong.
03:23You can't be quiet.
03:24And it's equal for both.
03:26But the prime minister is so forgiving.
03:29You have given me so much, my mother's wife.
03:35Then let's forget the old thing.
03:41You have given me so much, my fatherly figure, the prime minister will give so much of space
03:46and so much of heart out.
03:48You did listen to the students, and you did, for whatever reasons were best at that time,
03:53accept their demands.
03:54So, but in terms of narrative, I want to ask you a very straight question, sir.
03:58Is there a perception that the BJP lost the narrative war during the Gen Z protest?
04:03We are not working for narrative.
04:05We are here to serve the citizens, serve the nation.
04:09If we are busy building the narrative, who will govern the country?
04:14People of the nation have given such a huge mandate to Modi for the third time.
04:19Modi has said that in Modi 3, we have to perform three times faster than what we have done in
04:27the first two times.
04:28That is our focus.
04:30We are not here to build narrative and build a different kind of a story.
04:34Okay, let me ask you this in a different way, because you spoke of the RSS.
04:38Yes, the RSS chief in a public meeting said, and I want to quote here so I don't get it
04:47wrong,
04:48Jantar Mantar exposed the systematic flaws in the government.
04:53Failure in the system was there.
04:56So you accept there was a systematic flaw.
05:02If there was a certain improvement or certain reforms required, that is why new law was brought in.
05:11If everything is perfect, you will never need parliament to make another law.
05:16It is evolving.
05:18It is all dynamic.
05:18And we listen to the people.
05:21We are the people who are there because people wanted us to govern this nation.
05:28So we have to listen to them.
05:29We are not there from the aliens.
05:31I'm going to ask you another question.
05:33A lot has been said about excessive force.
05:36You say that no bullets were fired.
05:38But on the 23rd of July, sir, the Delhi police, where the RAF was concerned,
05:43there are two diary entries which say that two rounds of pellet guns were fired under the order of a
05:49DCP.
05:49This is official documentation.
05:54I have counted many agitations, 30-40 agitations, where people were killed during Congress time.
06:01True.
06:02In this agitation, you also have followed this agitation closely.
06:06There was no loss of lives, which is such a relief for us.
06:12Congress, Congress, when it comes to Congress, there are so many agitations.
06:15That is why I give the example.
06:17Whether it's Gujarat or Punjab or Telangana or UP or Assam or anywhere during Congress time,
06:24whenever there was large-scale protests and agitation,
06:28there were always police firing and there were always cases of death.
06:34Some people died.
06:36One or two, thousands of people died.
06:39But in this government protest, there was no one student or human knowledge of a student or a person's knowledge.
06:46There was no big deal.
06:48There was so big protest.
06:50When the government was in the government, the police stopped.
06:54The police stopped.
06:55The police stopped.
06:55The police stopped.
06:58The police stopped.
06:58And you go to the parliament.
07:00It was a basic thing.
07:02You know.
07:03This is not the order of the home minister, the police has a manual, that when you have
07:08a 144 declaration or a restriction, or whenever the court says that the protest is illegal
07:17or beyond a point, the area is a protected area, then the police will act as per the
07:25law, as per the manual.
07:28The home minister doesn't give the order for firing.
07:30It's a basic part of the commandment.
07:33But overall, the management of the responsibility is the government.
07:37That is why I said, if you just open up the old cases of agitations in India, thousands
07:45of people were killed by the police firing and all were under Congress regime.
07:50And in this protest, not a single life was lost.
07:55And that is a professional management of Delhi police.
07:58If we have to do the police, who will give the police tomorrow?
08:03If anything happens, we will give the police to the police.
08:06At night, the police will also say the law and order problems, and the police will call it.
08:12The police is our security.
08:14The police is our Cashew.
08:16If we do police, we don't just love the police, we don't want to protest it.
08:20If you protest it, I should protest it, then we should do it.
08:22So why do you fight the power of the parliament, and why do you fight the police?
08:27So the police did also me to get to restrain.
08:29When they kill it, then they also do the police.
08:32And the police do the police?
08:50Even in this, it's the DCP.
08:52The DCP had order.
09:06If you're a leader of opposition, then you should behave like a leader of opposition.
09:10Your languages must have weightage.
09:12If you're a leader of opposition, then you'll come to the parliament, take a photo of God and keep it
09:20on the ground.
09:21You shouldn't do that.
09:23I think it's a very horrible.
09:24This is a parliamentary democracy.
09:26People have created it.
09:28Parliamentary democracy is all about people.
09:30And we are here to serve the people.
09:33Democracy means people.
09:35And if you're elected as a man, what do you learn?

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