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00:25Joseph Moro
00:30Ito ang nabanggit mong letter request for confidential funds in 2022. Tama ba, Mr. Otonio?
00:39Yes, correct.
00:41Sa huling pahina nitong sulat na ito, there appears a signature above the printed name, Sara Z. Duterte. You will
00:50confirm that this is the signature of the Vice President.
00:54Yes, I can confirm.
00:56Kanyang binuksan ang prosekusyon ng pagsalang ni OVP Assistant Chief of Staff Assistant Secretary Lemuel Ortonio bilang testigo sa impeachment
01:04trial ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
01:07Unang sinilip ng prosekusyon ang letter request noong August 2022 para sa 250 million pesos na confidential funds na pirmado
01:15ng vice.
01:16Ipinunturin ang prosekusyon kung paanong walang anumang dokumentong sumusuporta sa kanilang request.
01:22For the OVP's request for confidential funds, in this letter, walang computation na binigay. Tama ba?
01:30That's correct. No computation.
01:31There was also no projection provided in the same letter.
01:33And also, there was no physical and financial plan attached to the letter.
01:39In fact, there was no attachment supporting the OVP's request for confidential funds.
01:46Correct?
01:46There were no attachments, ma'am.
01:49Meron daw mga paliwanag sa isinamitang letter request sa kung bakit nanghihingi ang vice-presidente ng confidential funds.
01:57Pero wala pa rin anumang programa, proyekto, aktividad na may kaugnayan sa national security at peace and order na nakasaad
02:04sa sulat.
02:04In the context of the plans and programs of the office, there has already been plans already at the beginning
02:11of the term of the vice president in July of 2022.
02:16At kahit August 2022, nag-request ang vice ng confidential funds.
02:20September 2022 pa na-aprubahan ng vice at na-sumite sa DBM ang physical and financial plan.
02:27Diyan sa box na may nakasulat na approved by, may pirma ulit. Above the printed name, Sara Duterte. Yan ay
02:37pirma ng vice president. Siya mismo ang pumirma niyan. Tama ba?
02:41Yes, that's her signature, ma'am.
02:43At napunan ng mga senator judge, siya tila na iba ang pirma ng bis sa dokumento.
02:48The court noticed that the signature of the vice president in this document appears to be different from the signature
02:54in the August 2022 document.
02:57So the vice president has at least two signatures so far. Can you confirm that both are her signatures?
03:03Yes, I can confirm, sir, your honor, that both are the signatures of the vice president.
03:07You can confirm likewise that they appear to be different though?
03:11Yes, that's correct, your honor.
03:12Ipinunto ng prosedusyon na basis ay sinamating physical and financial plan kabilang sa mga programang pupondohan ang Good Governance Program
03:20ng OVP na pinupondohan na ng General Appropriations Act noong 2022.
03:26Sa katunayan, sa 2022 gaang may line item na 621.6 million na mismong para sa Good Governance Engagement and
03:37Social Service Projects. Tama ba?
03:40Ipinakita din sa pagdinigang apat na disbursement vouchers at mga cheque para sa apat na beses na pag-withdraw ng
03:47confidential funds.
03:49Kinumpirman ni Ortonio na kasama siya ni dating OVP Special Disbursing Officer Gina Acosta ng i-encash ang mga cheque
03:56sa bangko.
03:57Ikaw lang ang kasama ni Ms. Gina Acosta ng i-encash mismo ito sa land bank, Shaw Boulevard Branch. Tama
04:06ba?
04:06Yes, when she requested me to accompany her.
04:09Kinumpirman rin Ortonio ng P125 million na OVP Confidential Funds ay nagamit sa loob lamang ng labing isang araw.
04:18Mr. Ortonio, yung PAP po ninyo at yung request nyo sa Confidential Funds sa huling quarter ng 2022, ang plano
04:25nyo sana para sa buong huling quarter ng 2022?
04:29Based on the PFPs, Your Honor, it's as indicated here, it's for October to December.
04:36The SARO was released December 30 and then the withdrawal was made December 20.
04:42December 20. Tapos in-implement nyo hanggang December 31.
04:46Ba't ba kailangan madaliin yan? Hindi ba ang budget good for two years?
04:50Because, Your Honor, the request was made for the specific year which is 2022.
04:57Isa rin sa mga tinanong kay Ortonio ay kung bakit ginamit ng Confidential Fund para bumili ng gamot at pagkain
05:03lalo na't ni Pondong OVP para sa ganung programa.
05:06Hindi mo na tinanong si Ms. Acosta at ang security officer na iyong nabanggit kung nasaan ang supposed official receipts
05:17bilang patunay na ito nga ay nabili.
05:19The explanation that was provided to me, ma'am, was that binigay po ang pera directly doon sa mga informants
05:27and agents
05:28and the informants and agents na po yung bumili ng mga medical and food supplies.
05:36So, it's the acknowledgement receipt which is the proof of the release of the funds to the informants or the
05:47agent.
05:48Nasaan naman daw kaya ang mga non-consumables gaya ng computer at lamesa na binili gamit ang Confidential Fund?
05:55Ang ariang binili ng pondo ng bayan o pera ng bayan ay pag-aari ng gobyerno. Tama ba?
06:02Yes, I would say so.
06:04Hanggang ngayon, ikaw personally, Mr. Ortonio, hindi mo rin maituturo kung nasaan na itong mga mesa, upuan, supplies, computers.
06:16Nagkakahalagang 3.5 million. Hindi mo naman ituro kung nasaan sila.
06:21Considering that these are procurements for confidential activities, no ma'am.
06:28I would have no personal knowledge on where these items are.
06:32Inilahad din ni Ortonio na nagbigay siya ng 150,000 pesos mula sa kanyang personal na pera.
06:39Kasunod ng request mula kay Acosta na base naman sa request ni Colonel Raymond LaChica.
06:44At hanggang ngayong araw, di pa rin daw siya na re-reimburse.
06:48Nilapit po ito sa akin ni Ms. Gina Acosta, our SDO.
06:52At sinabi niya.
06:53And then she mentioned that there was a request from Colonel LaChica for emergency.
06:57I provided her with the request.
07:00And were you able to recover the 150,000, Mr. Ortonio?
07:03Unfortunately, ma'am, I was not reimbursed anymore.
07:07Bago pa man magtapos ang paglinig, pinunan ang prosekusyon ng tila pabago-bagong paliwanag ng OVP sa komisyon ng audit
07:14kaugnay sa pinagkagasta sa nila.
07:16There were different justifications.
07:20You will also agree with me na kapag paiba-iba ang rason, maaring nagsisinungaling lang
07:30or talaga namang ito ay isa lamang scam.
07:34Move to strike the scam and nagsisinungaling.
07:38So, stricken off the record.
07:40Sa isa pang punto, muling na strike off the record, ang ilang salitang ginamit ng prosekusyon.
07:45Mr. Ortonio, kanina sinabi mo na si Vice President mismo ang humingi ng confidential fund.
07:54Siya rin ang nag-decide kung anong amount, kung magkaanong amount ang i-request.
07:58At pinirmahan niya rin ang approval para sa pag-release ng pondo.
08:03Pinirmahan niya rin ang mga liquidation reports at certification supporting the liquidation reports.
08:10Tama ba?
08:11Yes.
08:11Okay.
08:12In short, you will agree with me.
08:14This whole confidential funds matter, ang arkitekto at mastermind nito ay si Vice President Sarah.
08:22Your Honor, please.
08:23Your Honor, please. Objection.
08:25Sustain.
08:26Nag-reklamo ang dipensa sa mga pananalitang ginagamit ng prosekusyon.
08:31Remind the prosecution, Your Honor, not to use inappropriate words, Your Honor, like scam, mastermind, nagsisinungaling.
08:38We are not supposed to make insinuations, accusations, or conclusions, Your Honor.
08:44But it does seem that it's becoming a, I would rather use the word habit than pattern, for the panel
08:54of prosecutors to close their direct with such strong statements.
08:59We apologize if, sometimes we get carried away by our zeal and our passion, Your Honor.
09:06But we and the prosecution, we just want to call a spade a spade.
09:11Joseph Morong nagbabalita para sa GMA News.
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