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ABD’de hemen hemen her gün, en az 8 saat süren canlı Twitch yayınlarında gündem yorumlarıyla 3 milyondan fazla bir takipçi kitlesine ulaşan bir Türk var. Hasan Piker…
Piker, özellikle son bir yılda ABD’de Demokrat Sosyalist hareketin kazandığı ivmede kitlesiyle ciddi bir rol oynarken, yer yer sert yorumlarıyla Cumhuriyetçilerin hatta bazı Demokratların “tehdit” unsuru hâline gelen, kendini “solcu siyasi yorumcu” olarak tanımlayan biri.
Piker, özellikle son bir yılda ABD’de Demokrat Sosyalist hareketin kazandığı ivmede kitlesiyle ciddi bir rol oynarken, yer yer sert yorumlarıyla Cumhuriyetçilerin hatta bazı Demokratların “tehdit” unsuru hâline gelen, kendini “solcu siyasi yorumcu” olarak tanımlayan biri.
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00:00Hasan Piker, TeamDor'da hoş geldiniz.
00:03Ben önce birazcık sizi kendi dışarıdan baktığım yerden bildiklerimle anlatmak istiyorum.
00:09Twitch'te yani 3 milyondan fazla takipçinizde her gün, hemen hemen her gün 8 saatten uzun süren yayınlarla gündemi yorumluyorsunuz.
00:19Haberleri takip ediyorsunuz, haberlerle ilgili yorumlarınızı yapıyorsunuz.
00:22Genellikle Amerikan siyaseti ama onun dışında dünyayı da takip ediyorsunuz.
00:26Ve kendinizi sosyalist, solcu, bir siyasi yorumcu olarak tanımlıyorsunuz.
00:33Bunlar böyle internetten aslında ilk hızla bakıldığında sizinle ilgili görülebilecek, takip edilebilecek şeyler.
00:38Peki şu anda baktığınızda öncelikle siz kendinizi nasıl yorumlarsınız?
00:45Bu doğru yani ben sosyalist ve anti-imperyalist bir...
00:53I'm already messing up, see?
00:56Commentator.
00:56I'm a political commentator.
00:57Yorumcu.
00:58Soyalist and anti-imperyalist political commentator.
01:00Yorumcu, evet.
01:01Evet, siyasi yorumcu.
01:02Çok uzun süredir Twitch'tesiniz.
01:04Fakat son bir buçuk yıldır özellikle sizi internet dünyasının dışında da yani Amerikan'ın ana akım Fox, CNN gibi kanallarında
01:15da adınızı görüyoruz.
01:17Siyasetçiler birbirine, rakiplerine belli bir konuda kötülemek isterken ya da övmek isterken sizin adınızı kullanabiliyor.
01:26Bu son bir buçuk iki yılda sizin siyasi yorumcu olarak yeriniz nasıl değişti?
01:33Siz nasıl anlatırsınız bunu?
01:37Yani genel olarak bayağı mainstream...
01:45İngilizce yapacağım.
01:45Neyse, ingilizce yapacağım.
01:48İngilizce yapamıyorum, Türkçe yapamıyorum ama olmuyor yani.
01:53Biraz utanıyorum ve de şimdi dediğim gibi 18 sene önce Ted Ankara Koleji'ne gittim ama
01:59şimdi son 18 senedir Amerika'da yaşadığım için İngilizce sadece konuşabiliyorum bu konularda maalesef.
02:04Özür dilerim o yüzden.
02:05Evet, sorunlarınızı da atı dersiniz.
02:06Okay, um, yeah, I've gotten a lot more mainstream attention from Fox News and also party bosses on both the
02:14Republican Party side
02:15and certainly on the Democratic Party side as well, and there's reason for that.
02:22I think there's a new movement that is growing in the country, one that centers the interest of the working
02:27class,
02:28one that opposes Israel's genocide in Gaza and has become much more prominent of a movement
02:37that is actually dovetailing into a broader anti-war coalition as well,
02:41one that demands that our tax dollars and our productive output no longer go to endless wars overseas
02:48and instead stays in the United States of America.
02:51and I think because this movement has gained so much attention and because it has become a successful movement
02:59that has a political expression that has won a bunch of different races all around the country
03:04within the Democratic Party's primaries, people are starting to get a little bit threatened.
03:09And I would go so far as say the number one reason for why I get attacked as much as
03:15I do
03:15is because of my antagonism towards the pro-Israel position in American politics
03:24that's almost uniparty or has been uniparty for the longest time.
03:28So that's the reason why I get attacked by not only the Republicans but also the Democrats as well from
03:34time to time.
03:35And that is the, my, I'm probably at this point the most prominent critic of Israel.
03:41And therefore I get attacked adversely from consultants and corporate media from both sides.
03:49Last week we read an interview about, with you from Rolling Stones magazine and the title was
03:57Why is Everyone Afraid, Scared of Hasan Piker?
04:02Who are the people that are afraid of you in your eyes?
04:07I think there are people who are very worried about, not just me, but me as an expression of this
04:14broader movement, right?
04:16Very wealthy people, Zionists certainly, like people who have either financial interests in Israel
04:24or people who want, for one reason or another, the continuation of Israel's belligerence in the region.
04:31There's also obviously big pharma executives, I would suspect some healthcare executives as well
04:37because a big plank of our movement is of course socialization of certain functions of the government
04:45that have been privatized for far too long, healthcare being one of them.
04:49We also want universal childcare, federal jobs guarantee.
04:53So there are a lot of different corporate interests in the country
04:57that have grown very comfortable in the seat of power
05:00and have continued to legislate to their desires,
05:05which are oftentimes antagonistic to the needs of the working class.
05:09So those are the people, I would say, who are most likely terrified.
05:15But you mentioned those people are like the powerful part of the society.
05:20So, but at the same time you're watched by like hundreds of thousands of people daily on your like daily
05:28streams.
05:29So who are, like who is watching you and what is the demographic you think?
05:34Like who do you influence daily with your views?
05:40My demographic is downwardly mobile, college educated under 45 year olds,
05:45which are increasingly making up the largest chunk of the current existing American working class.
05:50We've obviously destroyed our industrial base in the United States of America.
05:55There's no more coal miners.
05:56There's no more industrial workers by the same numbers that existed in like the 90s, for example,
06:03pre-NAFTA United States.
06:04So most of the working class is now comprised of college educated young professionals
06:11who came into the job market in the aftermath of massive economic downtrends
06:17and are actually underemployed, oftentimes working gig economy jobs,
06:23whether it be, you know, Amazon delivery or Uber Eats, Postmates and the like.
06:27And these are very frustrated people.
06:28They're very educated people and they want changes, changes to take place that improve their living circumstances.
06:38And I would say that's the heart of my base of support.
06:42That's the heart of this movement broadly.
06:44Mine is a little bit on the younger side.
06:46I would say it's 18 to 35 more so.
06:49But there are certainly an increasingly older coalition of voters that have now started to pay attention
06:56to what's going on on, you know, our side of the Internet.
06:59But at the same time, until maybe last year, we like only, at least from Turkey,
07:04we only saw you like for like on these streams, like you were a part of the Internet culture.
07:09But this year, I feel like you were more on the streets, maybe during protests,
07:15maybe for campaigning for a candidate.
07:17So how did you change your like how like your influence?
07:26So I've always participated in protests and I've always every now and then participated in campaigns,
07:33but never to this degree.
07:35But the reason why I decided to to throw my hat in the ring
07:38and move the weight of my community around a little bit in favor of candidates that I trust
07:44in this election cycle is because I saw a lot of discontent.
07:48And I saw a lot of anger when I went out to these protests.
07:51From your followers, you saw the discontent?
07:53No, no, no, actually not from my followers.
07:56My followers have always been angry, right?
07:58They're socialists, they're anti-imperialists.
08:00They've always felt shut out from the American political system.
08:05What I'm talking about, actually, is the exact same kind of discontent
08:09that we felt for the last decade or so since Bernie's 2016 primary run.
08:15A lot more Americans, a lot more Democrats also shared that same animosity, that same discontent.
08:22And it wasn't just discontent towards the Trump administration that's been a spectacular failure,
08:28the Trump administration that's been unbelievably corrupt and unbelievably violent all over the world
08:34and destabilizing the energy markets and causing an inflation crisis here in the United States of America.
08:39But also, they were mad at the Democrats, too.
08:42They were mad that the Democrats were ineffective.
08:44They were feckless.
08:46And that's when I realized, I mean, these are 65-year-old people.
08:49Like, these are educated, wealth-having suburbanites that are at the base, at the heart of the Democratic Party,
08:59the conservative wing of the Democratic Party's base of support.
09:02And now, they were looking for a Bernie-style insurgency.
09:06And that's when I realized our moment is here.
09:10So that's why I got more involved in campaigns than ever before.
09:16And I think it worked out very well so far.
09:20I mean, Democratic Socialists of America, the organization has always been a prominent force
09:26in trying to move the Democratic Party to a more socialist direction.
09:34Of course, in the interim, this just means modest social democratic provisions,
09:39things that I think every Turkish person would probably laugh at as, like,
09:44this bold, radical, you know, socialist initiative is us in the United States of America
09:50basically trying to design a socialized health care system.
09:55How do you think, like, it will turn out in a couple years, maybe,
10:00the Democratic Socialist Movement in the Democratic Party in the United States in general?
10:07What do you foresee?
10:08I mean, so far it's been really good.
10:10So far it's been a spectacular success, I would say.
10:15We have, we're always outspent, we're always outgunned.
10:20We don't have the opportunity to get earned media from traditional outlets.
10:24And it's normally in a previous media environment where most of the voters were getting their notes
10:31from MSNBC and CNN, ABC, CBS, these legacy publishers would probably have a really hard time
10:38reaching out to voters.
10:39But now they have an independent media coalition backing them,
10:43from myself to many other outlets on the Internet.
10:46And therefore they can, they can actually get people excited a lot faster.
10:54And we also have a diligent door knocking operation, you know, activist base,
11:00that is canvassing and phone banking for candidates as well.
11:04And that's precisely the reason why we've seen a tremendous amount of success in these primaries so far.
11:10So I'm very excited because, you know, it's, we are working to associate good governance,
11:19re-instill confidence in good governance, and associate good governance with democratic socialism.
11:25That's precisely what Zora Mumdani's doing in New York, and there's been tremendous success there.
11:29There was a recent poll that came out.
11:30He has the highest approval rating of any New York mayor at this point in their career.
11:35It's actually spectacular.
11:37And each of those successes compound on one another.
11:42And we prove our worth, we gain that legitimacy and we instill confidence in the masses
11:48that we are doing politics differently.
11:51We're doing a different kind of politics that centers their needs rather than the needs of corporations.
11:56From this point, like, we are closely following the primaries, the democratic primaries.
12:02But do you have, like, any guesses about the upcoming midterm elections?
12:08Like, will we see a different picture from, like, the last time, maybe?
12:15Yeah, no, it's already happened, right?
12:17Because some of these races in the midterms, in the midterm primaries are, they're locks, right?
12:22Because these are deep blue districts.
12:23So they're, we're already changing the makeup, the ideological makeup of the democratic party
12:29with a bunch of democratic socialists that are going to win in the general.
12:34And I am confident that Abdul, Abdul El-Sayed, who is running for Senate, that's the, that's,
12:40at least in this cycle, that's my biggest attempt.
12:43That's my biggest campaign that I'm working with.
12:46And that, that is going to be a major, major victory, I think.
12:51Not only for the Democrats, of course, because the Democrats must maintain the Senate majority.
12:57And in order to do so, Abdul El-Sayed has to defeat Mike Rogers in Michigan.
13:04But I think that'll be the major victory for, not necessarily democratic socialism,
13:08because Abdul El-Sayed is not a democratic socialist.
13:11He openly says he's a capitalist, but it'll be a major victory for the Berniecrats,
13:16the, the Bernie wing of the party, the left populist movement, broadly speaking.
13:22And also, what do you think is the most, like, the biggest driving force with this?
13:27Like, is it, like, US politics, foreign policy, like, US foreign policy, or the economy,
13:33or, like, the general Trump administration?
13:35Like, what do you think changes the, this, like, what do you think creates this tide?
13:41What's this new Democratic Party understanding?
13:46I think it's a combination of all of those factors.
13:49I do think that Trump creates a lot of negative polarization.
13:53I think he's very vulgar, and he's very openly corrupt.
13:58So there's no, there's no hiding Trump's corruption.
14:02It's unprecedented, really.
14:04And I think that frustrates a lot of Americans, right?
14:06It also frustrates a lot of Americans because their wallets are hurting.
14:10So they are not in any mood or any appetite to feel positively about the administration
14:16if they're suffering economically.
14:19So that, I think, is the real reason why that discontent could be channeled
14:25into something more productive for the first time ever,
14:27because Republicans for far too long have been able to take the frustrations of the masses
14:31on the economy and then redirect that anger back to marginalized groups
14:35and marginalized identities, fear-mongering around socialism, communism,
14:39saying it's transgender people that are responsible for, you know, why you're angry
14:45because the Democrats only care about those sorts of things,
14:49and also a good deal of racism as well, you know,
14:53racial agitative propaganda that they commit to,
14:56and they're still doing that right now.
14:59But clearly, the Trump administration's success
15:02in implementing an agenda that actually harms transgender people
15:06and puts the cross-hears on undocumented migrants, for example,
15:10rather than putting them through the proper protocols of documentation,
15:15the Trump administration has decided to make them an enemy.
15:19They've decided to send them to concentration camps,
15:23both on the American border and also in El Salvador.
15:26All of that happened already for the last two years,
15:29and it's been chaotic.
15:30It's been violent at times.
15:31American citizens have been shot and killed.
15:33American citizens have been arrested without due process in the process.
15:37And this is not working.
15:41The economic problems that Americans are experiencing have not changed.
15:45They've only gotten worse in the process.
15:47Trump said he was going to end all wars.
15:49He started more wars.
15:50Look at what's going on in Iran, and the Strait of Hormuz is closed.
15:53So a lot of that is frustrating Americans broadly,
15:57and they're looking for an alternative.
16:00And the alternative can't simply be status quo democracy from the Democratic Party.
16:05I was going to ask that.
16:06Like, my last question about U.S. politics is,
16:09like, you always mentioned the problem with the duality of the system.
16:13So I heard a lot of, like, I heard this phrase,
16:18lesser of two evils, like, until today maybe,
16:21like, having to choose between two candidates that you are not very content of.
16:26So with this year, do you think this lesser of two evils phrase will change?
16:34With, like, choosing different candidates within the Democratic Party?
16:40Yeah, I mean, that's the goal.
16:41That's 100% the goal, and that's been very successful in the primaries,
16:45and I think it'll be successful in the general as well.
16:47That's the argument, right?
16:48Like, we don't want to engage in defensive voting any longer.
16:52We want offensive voting.
16:53We want to vote for something, not just against the Republican Party.
16:58Now, of course, you should still vote against the Republican Party regardless,
17:01because they're terrible.
17:03Having said that, our hope is that we can have a bold vision for change
17:10that people are demanding,
17:12and this will be a very popular populist movement
17:17that will get people excited to go out and vote.
17:20Many people who have in the past not voted
17:24will hopefully come out and vote,
17:26and also on top of that,
17:27our hope is that we'll bring back some of the people
17:31that voted for Democrats in the past,
17:33but then voted for the Republicans when Donald Trump came around.
17:36Because Donald Trump, broadly speaking,
17:39was the anti-status quo candidate.
17:42He was the anti-establishment candidate,
17:43and he was able to present himself as such
17:45even after he was president for four years,
17:48when he came back around in 2024,
17:50when people had forgotten
17:51what his administrative quagmires looked like.
17:56And now he's president once again,
17:58and it's very clear that Americans are frustrated with him.
18:02So our goal is to show people
18:05that there is an alternative,
18:08there's an alternative non-status quo politics
18:11that will truly seek to alleviate
18:14some of the pain that they're feeling.
18:17And moving to, like, Turkey a little bit,
18:21are you able to follow, like, the Turkish?
18:23Because you are constantly, like,
18:25following the news,
18:27but it's, like, more on America, I know.
18:29But are you able to follow Turkey in general,
18:32or do you, like, engage with your Turkish followers
18:35as much as you do with the American followers?
18:39No, definitely not.
18:40And I increasingly have paid less attention
18:44to Turkish politics.
18:45I think after the arrest and prosecution
18:48of the mayor of Istanbul,
18:50I haven't really been keeping up
18:52with anything else that's going on.
18:55But, I mean, I do obviously hear
18:57about what Erdogan is doing
18:59with regular frequency
19:00when it comes to the regional actions.
19:02I see him as an actor
19:04playing a role in this grand design
19:06that America has in the region.
19:09And one that also tries to, I guess,
19:12carve out some semblance of Turkish sovereignty.
19:15in spite of, you know, the American ambitions.
19:19But I'm not very familiar with what's going on
19:23on the domestic side of Turkish politics.
19:26I'm more so just covering, you know,
19:29what Israel has been saying, for example.
19:31I know the F-35 shipments were a point of controversy
19:36for the Israeli side.
19:37Israel sees Turkey as its long-term enemy,
19:42I think, because Turkey has been able
19:44to successfully carve out power for itself
19:48as a regional actor,
19:49especially with its actions in Syria,
19:52playing the role of a mediator
19:54between Russia and Ukraine at times.
19:56all the things that Erdogan has done
19:58as far as his foreign policy
19:59have made Turkey a more robust actor
20:03in the stage of the Middle East.
20:07And I think that's the reason
20:09why there is a tremendous amount of enmity
20:11coming from the Israeli side,
20:15because they want to push back
20:18against that influence.
20:21When we talk about, like,
20:23U.S. regional politics in general,
20:25you studied politics, I think,
20:28in college, I guess.
20:30You studied politics.
20:32Yeah.
20:32And you also grew up in Turkey.
20:35So, like, where did your interest in news,
20:37like, following the regional developments,
20:39following politics in the U.S.?
20:41Where did it come from?
20:42Like, did you always have it?
20:43So, because you're doing, like,
20:45streams for, like, 10 hours
20:46talking about politics and stuff,
20:49so it's interesting to know,
20:50like, where did this interest come from?
20:52Yeah, I mean,
20:53I was a big Lemonyak, Penguin,
20:56Uykusuz fan.
20:57I read a lot of the satire,
20:59the political satire magazines.
21:01I read them.
21:02I read the newspaper as well.
21:05I was a big Uriah reader.
21:08And I, you know,
21:10I was always interested in politics.
21:11I mean, I saw the rise of Erdogan, right?
21:14I experienced it when I was growing up in Turkey,
21:17and I saw some of the negative consequences
21:19of that as well.
21:21And I think that was where
21:23I began my political journey.
21:26I certainly wasn't a socialist back then,
21:29of course.
21:29I didn't understand concepts like that at all.
21:31But I was just, like,
21:33always a very liberal,
21:35very progressive person.
21:37That was my upbringing.
21:38That was my development.
21:39So, I was frustrated
21:40with some of the social repression.
21:43and I think that I was also very frustrated
21:46with what America was doing in the region, right?
21:50Post 9-11 and its war on terror
21:53because, you know,
21:55I got to experience some of the reverberations
21:58in the region growing up in Turkey as well.
22:00And it was very frustrating for me.
22:02So, I started watching Jon Stewart,
22:05The Daily Show with Jon Stewart on Comedy Central,
22:08and I was a big fan of his.
22:11And that, you know,
22:13that's where I developed
22:14a taste for American politics.
22:19Are you, like,
22:20did you ever consider, like,
22:22doing this,
22:23your show on, like,
22:24or on a more mainstream,
22:26like, media,
22:27television,
22:29or maybe, like,
22:30a YouTube channel?
22:30Did you get offers,
22:31at least,
22:32to, like,
22:33do?
22:33I have in the past, yes.
22:35But no,
22:35I would never.
22:36And a big part of that is because
22:39I have to maintain editorial control.
22:41and I know that if I were to work
22:43for a much larger corporate entity,
22:46one,
22:47they wouldn't be able to pay me
22:48how much money I could make on my own,
22:50first and foremost, right?
22:51Because I have a self-funded system here
22:53with subscriptions.
22:55That's where my revenue comes from.
22:56I don't have to take on
22:58any corporate sponsorships.
22:59I don't run any advertisements at all.
23:02So,
23:03I have no,
23:05I have no more powerful entity
23:07than myself
23:08telling me what I can and can't say.
23:10I'll give you one example.
23:12Post-October 7,
23:142023,
23:16I would not have been able
23:18to speak so convincingly
23:19on the Palestinian movement,
23:22the Palestinian emancipatory movement,
23:23if I had corporate sponsors.
23:26Because corporate sponsors
23:27would have immediately told me,
23:28like,
23:29we're, you know,
23:29we're canceling your show.
23:31And many,
23:32many of the people that I know
23:34in mainstream outlets
23:34actually did get their shows canceled.
23:36Mehdi Hassan,
23:39Joy and Reid was another one as well.
23:41Like,
23:41MSNBC is supposed to be
23:42this liberal outlet,
23:43this liberal news network,
23:44and they,
23:44they actually fired
23:46a big chunk of their hosts.
23:47And they moved to,
23:48like,
23:49independent,
23:50like,
23:50they did their,
23:51they are doing their shows in the media.
23:52And now they're very,
23:54yeah,
23:54now they're very successful.
23:56But,
23:56but that's the point,
23:57right?
23:57I,
23:58I was always here
24:00because I was always,
24:02you know,
24:03in my professional media career
24:04since the beginning
24:05for the last 13 years
24:06have always been an outspoken
24:08socialist,
24:09anti-imperialist.
24:10Even the socialism side
24:12was considered toxic
24:1310 years ago,
24:1513 years ago,
24:16certainly.
24:16It's not as toxic now,
24:18but the anti-imperialist side
24:19was always unbelievably toxic
24:21because that,
24:22that drives a wedge
24:23at the heart
24:25of American exceptionalism.
24:26that all of a sudden
24:28forces a lot of people
24:29in the Western world
24:30to reconsider
24:31their relationship
24:32and their understanding
24:33of America's place
24:35in the world
24:35as the world police.
24:36Is that a good thing?
24:38Many Americans,
24:39I think,
24:39are peaceful people.
24:41They,
24:41they fancy themselves
24:42to be lovers of peace,
24:44but they don't understand
24:46that American imperialism
24:47continues nevertheless.
24:49And,
24:49and they can be tuned up
24:52rather quickly
24:53by corporate media
24:55into believing
24:55that America must wage wars.
24:57They've,
24:58nowadays,
24:59the,
24:59the corporate,
25:02the corporate stranglehold
25:04that,
25:05that,
25:06that used to exist
25:07no longer is as powerful.
25:09And that's precisely
25:09the reason why
25:10you're seeing
25:10the public at odds
25:12with the military action
25:14in Iran,
25:15for example.
25:16And that's precisely
25:17why you,
25:18you've seen a lot
25:18of people
25:19wake up to the realities
25:21of what Israel is doing
25:23in the region
25:23and are expressing discontent
25:26over and over again
25:27with mass protests
25:28and mass mobilizations.
25:30And there's a crisis
25:31of credibility
25:32in mainstream outlets
25:33in the country now.
25:35And,
25:35and that's precisely
25:37the reason why
25:38I think our side's
25:39prominence has grown
25:40in the process
25:41because we don't have
25:43this sort of editorial control
25:45because we just say
25:46what we truly believe
25:48and say the truth.
25:50After this point,
25:51like in your career,
25:52in your life,
25:53as a next step,
25:54do you ever consider
25:56like being
25:56in active politics
25:58with this amount
26:00of influence you have?
26:04What do you mean by that?
26:05Like as in running for office?
26:06No, I'm not going
26:07to run for office.
26:08Regional politics.
26:10I mean, certainly
26:12I'm going to continue,
26:13I'm going to continue
26:14trying to foment
26:15class consciousness
26:16in the country,
26:17engage in agitation,
26:18state of propaganda
26:20and try to get
26:21Americans to wake up
26:22to the realities
26:23of capitalism,
26:24imperialism,
26:26because the reason
26:28why a lot of Americans
26:29are struggling
26:29in the wealthiest country
26:30on the planet
26:31is a byproduct
26:32of this system.
26:33It's the system's design.
26:34And I want more people
26:36to come to terms
26:36with that reality.
26:37I want more people
26:38to recognize that reality
26:39and actively chip away
26:41at that
26:41and hopefully develop
26:44a more positive vision
26:45for a better future.
26:48before we finish
26:50like I want to ask you
26:51since this is like
26:52more like an internet
26:54culture environment
26:55for both of us
26:56like T24 is also
26:58like internet-based platform.
27:00Can we do like
27:01a five question
27:02this or that
27:03like maybe in a funny
27:04like quirky way
27:05with some different
27:07OK.
27:09TÜRKÇEY
27:12Türkçe yapabiliriz bunu.
27:13Tamam çok kısa kısa.
27:15Eğer politik bir şeyler konuşmayacaksam konuşabilirim Türkçe.
27:20Arada hızlı cevaplı politik de olabilir ama mesela başlayabilirim.
27:25Sıkıntı yok. Hızlı cevap verebilirim Türkçe.
27:28Hamburger mi kebap mı?
27:33Kebap.
27:35Los Angeles mı İstanbul mu?
27:39İstanbul.
27:41Bernie Sanders mi AOC mi?
27:46Artık Bernie çok yaşlandı o yüzden AOC.
27:49Takım elbise mi spor kıyafetler mi?
27:53Artık takım elbise. Eskiden spor kıyafeti giyiyordum ama artık takım elbise sadece.
27:59Çünkü yaşlı insanlar izlediği zaman, klipleri gördükleri zaman eğer takım elbiseyi giyiyorsam biraz daha saygı duyuyordum.
28:06Zaten 35 yaşındayım yani artık çocuk değilim maalesef.
28:13Bir hafta internetten uzak olmak mı? Bir hafta siyaset konuşamamak mı?
28:21Bu gerçekten zor. Bu en zor soru yani. Bunun cevabını bilmiyorum. Bir daha düşünmem lazım.
28:33İnternetten uzak olamam bir hafta. O yüzden bir hafta politika konuşmam ama yine internete ihtiyacım var.
28:40Politik olmazsa neler olur? Buradan öyle bitireyim.
28:45Yani kültür, spor, anime, filmler, müzik belki, video games.
28:55Yani öyle şeyler. Normal bir insanım ben yani. Böyle değişik ilgilerim var.
29:00Sadece politikayla uğraşmıyorum. Gerçi yok artık harbi. Sadece politikayla uğraşıyorum son zamanlarda ama
29:06inşallah bu midtermler bittikten sonra geri döneceğim eski halimi.
29:12Hani işte kültür kabul eden, yani geri döneceğim eski yaptığım şeylere.
29:20Harika. Çok teşekkür ederiz.
29:23T-M4'de konuk olduğunuz için.
29:27Ben teşekkür ederim.