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Role Model gets hooked up to the polygraph for Vanity Fair's Lie Detector Test. The singer-songwriter answers revealing questions about his music, personal life and more to find out just how honest he really is.
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00:00Are there any outstanding lies that you'd like to confess to?
00:05Um, oh God, this thing is, I can't breathe.
00:16I, I never wanted a Birkin.
00:24Role model, do you know why you're here today?
00:28Um, you guys don't trust me? I don't know.
00:33This is Stephanie, our polygraph operator.
00:35Hi, Stephanie.
00:36Hello.
00:37Are you ready to be hooked up?
00:38I'm ready.
00:42Give me one finger.
00:45And then your other hand.
00:51What does that mean?
00:54So this is real.
00:55This is like, this is real.
00:58I'm going to start by asking a few questions to get a baseline for the machine.
01:03Please answer honestly.
01:05Okay.
01:06Is your real name Tucker Pillsbury?
01:08Yes.
01:10So you're not Sabrina Carpenter?
01:12No.
01:14Are you the heir to the Pillsbury Doughboy fortune?
01:17I'm not.
01:19Were you born on May 15th?
01:21Yes.
01:22Are you about to take a polygraph exam?
01:24Yes.
01:26Are you nervous?
01:27Yeah, I am.
01:29Sweating.
01:30Stephanie, are we ready to go?
01:32We are ready.
01:33The machine has been calibrated.
01:37Let's start with your life.
01:40You said that you don't own a TV and watch every movie on your iPhone.
01:45Have you ever watched a movie with a date on your iPhone?
01:48No, I would never do that.
01:49Would you consider upgrading to an iPad one day?
01:52I have an iPad.
01:53It's just in a box and it's been in a box for two years.
01:57Do you plan on watching the Odyssey on an iPhone?
02:00I sure do.
02:00And I can't wait.
02:01And I'm not even going to use headphones.
02:04He's telling the truth.
02:06As an up and coming actor now,
02:07do you want to change your answer in case Christopher Nolan watches this?
02:12He won't.
02:13So no.
02:15Speaking of acting,
02:17you're starring in the new Lena Dunham film with Natalie Portman.
02:21Is it safe to say you're a girls fan?
02:24Um,
02:28I started watching girls when I got cast.
02:31So I don't,
02:32I think people would probably call me a fake fan because it took me so long.
02:35But yes,
02:36I am a fan of girls.
02:38So is it also safe to say you're more of a Ray than an Adam?
02:46I don't know.
02:50I'm going to say,
02:51yeah,
02:51I don't know this man,
02:54but I don't think I'm an Adam.
03:00This was your first acting experience.
03:03Do you think you'll be making a full career pivot soon?
03:06Pivot?
03:07No.
03:09What if you were offered to be the new James Bond?
03:16That makes me just sweat thinking about it.
03:18No,
03:18I can't do a British accent.
03:21Do you want to try?
03:23No,
03:24I.
03:26Hmm.
03:27According to the internet,
03:29in the film,
03:29you play a younger man in his twenties who gets involved with Natalie Portman's character.
03:34Did you pull from any real life experience for this role?
03:40Um,
03:43no.
03:45That was deceptive.
03:47Okay.
03:48I think the thing was loose on my finger,
03:50maybe.
03:52I stand by that.
03:54That was also deceptive.
03:57Okay.
03:57You've said that traveling overseas makes you realize how much you love America.
04:04Have you always been so patriotic?
04:07Um,
04:09oh God,
04:10this thing is,
04:11I can't breathe.
04:13Um,
04:14I,
04:15when I said that,
04:18I don't think America is in the best place right now.
04:21Uh,
04:21it's not being run very well.
04:23I just love aesthetically America.
04:26I like lakes.
04:27I like seven 11s.
04:29I like McDonald's.
04:30I like,
04:31um,
04:32dirt roads.
04:34And beer.
04:35Okay.
04:37I'm not patriotic.
04:39I just think we have a beautiful looking country.
04:44He's telling the truth.
04:46Do you have any American flags in your home?
04:49No.
04:51No.
04:52Do you know the national anthem?
04:55Oh God.
04:56Um,
05:01doing it all night,
05:02all summer,
05:04doing it the way I want to.
05:06Yeah.
05:07Yeah.
05:07Yeah.
05:08Yeah.
05:08Yeah.
05:11Your version.
05:14You've said that takeout abroad pales in comparison to American takeout.
05:18Would you say that you're afraid of restaurants?
05:25Yes.
05:26Have you ever been caught in a photo from a doordasher when receiving your delivery?
05:31Well,
05:32caught.
05:33Yeah.
05:33he,
05:34yes,
05:35I've gotten flicked up,
05:36um,
05:39without a shirt on,
05:40holding my little bag of whatever,
05:44burrito.
05:45Did you smile?
05:48no,
05:50no,
05:51it's not a happy experience.
05:55Stephanie.
05:56He's being truthful.
05:59Have you ever requested a refund for missing items?
06:01Mm-hmm.
06:04I'm human.
06:05What about just because you didn't like the food?
06:10No.
06:12Stephanie?
06:14Inconclusive.
06:16No.
06:16What the hell?
06:19Let's move on to your career.
06:22Tucker,
06:23set the record straight.
06:25Did you,
06:25or did you not get your stage name from this person's character in role model?
06:29No,
06:30it's Paul Rudd.
06:31No,
06:32I didn't.
06:32As a joke,
06:33I didn't know how to do interviews when I first started making music.
06:36Sarcasm doesn't work well on print.
06:39And I said,
06:41I remember what I said.
06:42I was inspired by the movie role models.
06:45It wasn't funny either.
06:46But no,
06:47I didn't.
06:49Love them.
06:51So you were basically trolling us all.
06:54I was,
06:55but again,
06:55it doesn't translate on print.
06:56So I'm the one who got trolled because,
06:59this has followed me.
07:05Do you enjoy being misleading on the internet?
07:07I do,
07:08yeah.
07:09Yes.
07:10Are there any outstanding lies that you'd like to confess to?
07:20I never wanted a Birkin.
07:36Period.
07:39Your new album,
07:40Chuck timely in the hourglass was inspired by a period of being single while everyone around you was getting married.
07:46Did you feel overwhelming pressure to find a wedding date?
07:50Um,
07:53no,
07:54I went to,
07:55I went to a wedding during the album writing process and I did not have a date.
08:02I did not feel pressure.
08:04Do you hate attending weddings alone?
08:08No,
08:09I had fun.
08:10Stephanie?
08:11Inconclusive.
08:16Do you think couples who don't allow plus ones are cheap?
08:19No.
08:22What about couples who don't have an open bar?
08:25Yes.
08:28It's the least you could do.
08:32You created the character,
08:34Chuck timely,
08:35who you say is a time traveler who hung out with this person and weirdly knows this person.
08:42Yep.
08:43He hung out with Britney Spears.
08:46It's just hard to do.
08:49And he's a fan of her.
08:51Yes.
08:51Olivia.
08:52Did you invent this story with the hopes that they would hear it and reach out?
08:57No,
08:57but that's good thinking.
09:00Did they?
09:03Um,
09:05she did not.
09:06Who?
09:08Britney Spears.
09:10But I would,
09:10again,
09:11you can't,
09:12I would never hope for that.
09:14Well,
09:15I would never expect that,
09:16I should say.
09:17Have you ever been backstage at one of their shows?
09:23I have never
09:27been backstage at one of their shows,
09:29no.
09:30Olivia's been backstage at one of my shows.
09:35If you got Britney Spears to sign something for you,
09:37would you get it tattooed on you?
09:44No.
09:46Have you ever seen a fan tattoo inspired by you?
09:49Yes.
09:51Did you like it?
09:53Some of them I like,
09:54some of them
09:55I worry.
09:58Words are fine.
09:59If it's my face,
10:00I get worried.
10:01Usually because it doesn't look too much like me.
10:04You have an Instagram account for Chuck.
10:06Was this your Finsta all along?
10:09No,
10:10I've never really believed in Finstas.
10:12And it's not really my Finsta,
10:14it's his Instagram.
10:16So you don't have a Finsta?
10:18I don't have a Finsta.
10:20Stephanie?
10:21That was inconclusive.
10:24You're the new face of salt and stone deodorant.
10:29Did you suspect that they were hinting at something
10:31when they offered you the campaign?
10:34Um,
10:35that's rude,
10:36but yes.
10:39Was it that you could use some freshening up?
10:41Yeah,
10:41I was.
10:41I think we didn't even have to ask the second question.
10:44I think we knew.
10:46Do you think you come across as someone who stinks?
10:48Yeah,
10:49I do.
10:50If we're going to keep digging this hole,
10:52I mean,
10:53yes,
10:53I think they approached me because I look
10:56or I give off a vibe of stench,
10:58yes.
11:02I don't know,
11:03a lot of my clothes have stains on them and stuff,
11:05but they're not even from me,
11:07so I buy them with stains.
11:12Yeah,
11:13I don't,
11:13yeah,
11:13yeah,
11:14yes,
11:14they chose me because I look like I smell.
11:17Do you actually wear natural deodorant?
11:21Yes.
11:23Are you wearing it now?
11:25Yes,
11:25I am.
11:26How's it holding up?
11:27Good.
11:31Truthful.
11:33Let's move on to
11:35pop culture.
11:35I love pop culture.
11:38You went viral for bringing out celebrities
11:40for many performances of Sally
11:42when the wine runs out.
11:43Be honest,
11:45did any celebrities say no to being your Sally?
11:51No.
11:53Sometimes they'll give you a,
11:57maybe down the line,
12:00but you know how that goes.
12:02Is that a polite no?
12:04Yep.
12:05Something I would do.
12:06I would do the same thing.
12:08Have you?
12:09Yes.
12:11Do you prefer bringing celebs up over fans?
12:14Bringing up fans means more.
12:18The fans have better energy?
12:22Yes.
12:25Which celeb had the least amount of energy?
12:29The dare,
12:31probably.
12:32I can say that
12:33because I love him,
12:35but he kind of just came out
12:37and he just smoked a cigarette,
12:38so.
12:39But I should have expected that.
12:41It's his brand.
12:43Were there any celebrities
12:44who asked to be Sally
12:45that you said no to?
12:49No,
12:49I probably said down the line
12:51sometime.
12:53And that's a callback.
12:55Well played.
13:00You have a long-standing bit
13:01about your obsession with Birkins.
13:05Be honest.
13:06Do you actually own one?
13:08Yes, I own one.
13:09It's black,
13:09and it was given to me.
13:11The joke went too far.
13:15So it's real.
13:18I didn't want a Birkin ever.
13:20That was not real.
13:22Do I own one now by mistake?
13:25Yes.
13:26Did I pay for it?
13:27No.
13:28Who gifted it to you?
13:29I can't say.
13:32Um...
13:34I can't say.
13:35It was...
13:38a man, though.
13:41It's always a man.
13:46Did this man,
13:48Ahling Holand,
13:49copy you with his Birkin obsession?
13:51Um,
13:52he's a soccer man.
13:56No,
13:57I don't think he copied me.
13:59And the one he's holding
14:00isn't really my style anyways.
14:03Was he the man
14:04who gifted you the Birkin?
14:05No,
14:06can you imagine?
14:08No.
14:11No.
14:16Why don't you like his Birkin?
14:18I don't like silver hardware.
14:20I'm kind of a city about gold.
14:23Matchy, matchy.
14:25All of your jewelry is gold?
14:27Mm-hmm.
14:29Have you ever been gifted silver?
14:32Yes.
14:33What did you do with it?
14:34I...
14:36keep it close to my heart.
14:38Have you ever re-gifted silver?
14:41Re-gifted?
14:47Yes.
14:48Stephanie?
14:50That was truthful.
14:52Yeah, I have.
14:54I just...
14:54I outed myself.
14:56You have a revolving list
14:58of enemies
14:58that includes
14:59quote,
15:00every male artist
15:01trying to be funny
15:02on the internet.
15:04Role model.
15:06Are you your own
15:06worst enemy?
15:08Very deep, yes.
15:12Have you ever had
15:12a funny bit
15:13backfire on you?
15:15Mm-hmm.
15:16What was it?
15:18I didn't even have
15:20one in my head.
15:20I just know
15:21most of them backfire.
15:26I don't know.
15:27The Birkin one
15:28backfired, I guess.
15:31Most of them
15:33backfire.
15:33I can't...
15:34Maybe I block them
15:36mentally.
15:36I don't know.
15:38What backfired
15:39about getting a Birkin
15:40for free?
15:41Right.
15:43I sound ungrateful.
15:44I just didn't want one
15:45and I got one.
15:47God bless.
15:47I'm so thankful,
15:48but...
15:51I probably will
15:52be selling that soon.
15:54True.
15:56What gave you the idea
15:57to start the bit?
15:59You just need...
16:00You need something
16:01to get people attached
16:03on the...
16:04It's a journey.
16:05It's like, uh...
16:07When you're doing
16:08an album rollout,
16:09maybe sometimes
16:09you need
16:10a journey
16:12for someone
16:12to follow along with.
16:13And so that happened
16:14to be the journey
16:14of the Birkin.
16:16And there was a...
16:17There was an ending.
16:18It was very cinematic
16:19in a way.
16:21Do your backfired bits
16:22ever make you
16:23second-guess
16:23your sense of humor?
16:28No.
16:30So you think
16:30you're funny?
16:32I think I'm funny.
16:33I think I'm...
16:36I make myself laugh.
16:38Yes.
16:40You should see me
16:40when I post stuff.
16:41I'm giggling
16:42on my couch
16:42and I'm holding my phone.
16:44Rubbing your feet together?
16:45I rub my feet.
16:46Yeah.
16:48I'm giggling
16:48the night away.
16:51Is rage bait
16:52your form of marketing?
16:57Yes.
16:58I like to make
16:58things about me.
17:01Would you say
17:02it's going well for you?
17:06I think it's going well.
17:08I think I haven't done
17:09as much of it
17:10for this album campaign.
17:13So we'll see
17:14if the numbers
17:14suffer.
17:16Final question.
17:18Okay.
17:19Did you lie
17:20at any point
17:20during this lie detector test
17:21and we didn't catch you?
17:23I'm sure I lie
17:24all the time.
17:25That was the truth.
17:31You've been served.
17:32You've been served.
17:32You're served.
17:34You're served.
17:34You're estar
17:35...
17:35...
17:35you
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