00:05The impeachment trial of Vice President Sara Duterte
00:32The impeachment trial of Vice President Sara Duterte
01:01The impeachment trial of Vice President Sara Duterte
01:30And we will be treating and looking at each one equally.
01:35Ms. Cylene, Ms. Cylene.
01:37Yes, Your Honor, I promise to henceforth behave.
01:41I have high respect for Atty. Capunan. In fact, she's one of my idols.
01:45You can end there, counsel.
01:45Let's end here. Let's end here.
01:47You can end there with high respect.
01:49It might sound like a eulogy, Your Honor. I'm still very much alive.
01:53Ang mga komento ni Counsel for the Prosecutors, Atty. Lorna Capunan, pinalagan ni Atty. Christine Ferrer ng Depensa.
02:23At kagaya nito, mas matandao sa akin si Atty. Capunan. Maybe she has more years of experience.
02:28She has 48 years. I have 15.
02:31We should learn to respect each other and refrain from making side comments, Your Honor.
02:36And that was captured by the media po.
02:38Atty. Capunan withdrew that statement earlier, if I remember correctly.
02:42Yes, Your Honor. In fact, I hope it was also part of the records that I promised to behave.
02:50Sa cross-examination, binigyan diin ang depensa na sa ilalim ng joint circular, hindi otomatikong humihingi ng resibo at pwede
02:58na ang acknowledgement receipts.
02:59Pero paglilino ng COA, humihingi sila ng ibang pruweba para sa ibang confidential na gastusin na walang naibigay ang bise
03:06kundi mga acknowledgement receipts lamang.
03:09Pwede bang gamitin ang other adequate records sa pagbili ng bagay-bagay?
03:15Opo, pwede po.
03:16So, tables, chairs, spreading adequate records at hindi kailangan official receipts sa lahat ng panon, depende sa kalagayan at sitwasyon?
03:24Pero po kasi, ito po ay nagpa-pertain sa purchases, so mas sufficient po sa amin kung maipapakita yung sales
03:33invoice at official receipts po.
03:35Ipinunto pa ng depensa na wala sa notice of disallowance ng COA so OVP, ang mga nakakatawang pangalan gaya ng
03:42Mary Grace Piatos, Patty Ting at Miggy Mango.
03:45Wala pong finding si Iqfaw on the names, on the use of fictitious names or aliases.
03:53Nasa notices of disallowance po ba yun?
03:56Wala pong nakalagay sa notices of disallowance.
03:59If the name appears to be funny, does that automatically mean that the name is fictitious?
04:07Your Honor, please, the question is misleading.
04:10The point of flashing these acknowledgement receipts were not the names.
04:14They were flashed because of the manner by which the funds were used.
04:20Attorney Gabonan, you have to admit, you had fun with the names too.
04:23So, let her cross the witness.
04:26Hindi mo masasabi na porket nakakatawa yung pangalan, eh peke na yun.
04:31Yun ba yung sinasabi ninyo?
04:32Parang hindi po ako makakasagot dun sa tanong na ganun.
04:38Okay, basta walang findings na ganun, no?
04:41Tinukoy rin ang depensa ang nakalakip sa liquidation itong Protective Intelligence Operation Report
04:46kung saan nakaditalya ang mga aktibidad ng BSE at ang pinaggamitan ng pondo
04:51para masigurong ligtas siya sa pagdalo sa mga ito.
04:54Papasok ko yan sa intelligence or normal work lang yan ng OVP?
04:59Sa intelligence.
05:00Profiling of participants who will be attending the event provided by organizers.
05:04Part 2 ba yan ng normal na function ng OVP?
05:08Or papasok ko siya sa intelligence work?
05:12Sa intelligence work.
05:14Ibahin natin ang payment for reward at payment for information.
05:18Ang payment for reward, yun ang hinahanapan mo ng success.
05:22Opo, tama po.
05:23Yung payment of information, hindi mo hinahanapan ng success yun?
05:27Hindi po.
05:28Tama po ba?
05:29Opo, tama po.
05:30So yung reward, kaya yung reward ang dinisalaw at yung information,
05:34hindi mo dinisalaw yung bayad na yun, di ba?
05:36Hindi po, hindi po na disalaw yung purchase of information.
05:39Tanong ni Kapunan, bakit ginamit ang pondo dito
05:42ngayong may sariling Vice President Security Group ang BSE na sinuswelduhan?
05:46Dapat din daw ay kinokoordinate ito sa law enforcement agencies
05:50na hindi raw ginawa ng BSE.
05:52The office of the Vice President has no less than 300, 400 security guards.
06:00If the security guards are being paid salaries,
06:05should these salaries be debited or reimbursed from confidential funds?
06:12Isa po, yung salaries po, eh hindi po siya pwedeng i-charge sa confidential fund.
06:18May finding ba kayo sa notices of these allowances nyo,
06:22both first and second notices,
06:24na yung VPSPG ay nagre-receive ng payments for reward and purchase of information
06:31from the confidential funds of the office of the Vice President?
06:35Wala po.
06:36Isa pa sa ipinupunto ng prosekusyon, bahagi ba ng mandato ng opisina ng Vice President
06:42at Department of Education na magkaroon ng mga confidential funds?
06:46Sa madaling sabi, dapat ba na meron siyang confidential funds?
06:50Sabi ng prosekusyon, hindi.
06:51Sabi naman ang depensa, ibinigay ito sa BSE.
06:54Kasama ba sa mandato ng isang Vice President ang confidential operations?
07:03Kung based po dun sa nakalagay sa mandato nila, hindi po.
07:06Noong 2022, the fourth quarter of 2022,
07:11alam mo ba ninyo na in-approve ng Office of the President
07:14ang confidential funds ng OVP?
07:18Based po sa mga documents na nasubmit sa amin, opo, meron pong approval.
07:22Noong 2023, nasa General Appropriations Act po yung confidential funds ng OVP.
07:31Tama po?
07:32Based po sa mga submissions sa amin, opo, nasa gaapo.
07:35Bago magtapos ang impeachment trial,
07:38tumayo sa Lead Defense Counsel, Atty. Sheila Sison.
07:41Inreklamo niya ang social media po si Private Prosecutor Atty. Amanda Ligutan.
07:45Nakasaad sa post sa hindi pwede ang misleading questions sa cross-examination.
07:50Walang pinatungkulan pero sa tingin ng depensa,
07:53ay patungkol ito sa naonang sinabi ni Atty. Ferrer.
07:56This was posted at 11.29am by one of the private prosecutors,
08:02Atty. Amanda Ligutan.
08:04Find it troubling that a private prosecutor would do this in the middle of a courtroom hearing.
08:13Paglilinaw ni Sison, ang tinutukoy rao ni Ferrer na pinahihintulutan ay ang leading questions at hindi misleading questions.
08:21Atty. Ferrer was only saying that leading questions are allowed on cross-examination.
08:27I really just find it in bad taste to do this at this time.
08:32And I think it is inappropriate to do that to a fellow member of the bar.
08:36Because even as we sit on the opposing side of this hall,
08:42we remain to be both members of the bar.
08:45And as officers of the court, we owe each other respect,
08:51you know, politeness or even kindness.
08:53Naroon si Atty. Ligutan pero sa susunod na trial na lamang daw siya pa sasagutin.
08:59Nagpaliwanag naman si Ligutan sa media.
09:01With all the respect po, kung babasahin doon,
09:05I am asking you, did I mention a name?
09:09Did I mention what case?
09:12Zero. Nothing. Nada.
09:15Si presiding officer Jesus Cudero nagbabala sa magkabilang panig
09:19na huwag magsalita tungkol sa merits ng kaso.
09:22One side has been crossing the line many, many times.
09:27And in fact, the presiding officer is already in the process of drafting a ruling
09:34and a warning and an order pertaining to this.
09:38Because clearly, I can even name all of you who have been commenting on social media
09:45in violation of Rule 18 of the impeachment rules.
09:48Joseph Morong nagbabalita para sa GMA News.
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