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00:00Dumipens na po ang mga senador na binanggit ni dating DPWH Secretary Manning Bonoan
00:04sa kanyang pagtestigo sa kasong malversation laban kay dating Senador Bong Revilla.
00:09Ang sabi po ng dating kalihin na katanggap umano ng Leadership Fund
00:13na abot sa 500 milyon piso hanggang 1 milyon piso ang mga senador noong 19th Congress.
00:20Saksi, si Maki Pulido.
00:25Leadership Fund, kung tawagin ni dating Department of Public Works and Highways
00:29o DPWH Secretary Manning Bonoan
00:32ang alokasyon sa budget na inilaan sa mga senador ng 19th Congress.
00:36Pagtestigo niya sa malversation case laban kay dating Senador Bong Revilla sa Sandigan Bayan,
00:41sinabi niyang may TIG 24 billion pesos ang inilaang kondo para dito
00:45sa 2024 at 2025 DPWH budget.
00:50Hindi bababa sa kalahating bilyong piso kada senador
00:53isang bilyong piso kung chairman ng kumite o may Senate leadership position.
00:58Si Senador Migs Zubiri na noong ay Senate President
01:00ang may discretion umano sa hatian.
01:03Pero tugon ni Zubiri, ni Minsan, hindi siya nag-request
01:06o humawak na anumang listahan ng project request ng mga senador.
01:10Lahat umano ng request ay idinaan sa Senate Committee on Finance
01:14na tagapangasiwa ng budget process sa Senado.
01:16As long as it is no corruption, it is transparent and requested by the agency,
01:23I don't see anything wrong, Mr. President.
01:26So again, I reiterate that there is nothing wrong with the institutional amendments
01:32for as long as projects are properly implemented,
01:35that they are neither ghost projects nor substandard.
01:39Nang tanungin naman ng prosecution si Bunuan kung sino pa ang nagpadaan ng listahan
01:44kay dating DPWH Undersecretary Roberto Bernardo,
01:48itinuro ni Bunuan sina Sen. Bongo, Robin Padilla at Jingoy Estrada.
01:53Natanong din si Bunuan ang Mahistrado kung may nagpasalamat ba sa mga nagpalista ng proyekto.
01:58Maliban daw kay Revilla, nagpasalamat rin daw si Sen. Aimee Marcos.
02:03Sabi naman ang senadora, hindi niya alam kung anong sinasabi ni Bunuan,
02:06pero lagi daw siyang nagpapasalamat sa mga ahensyang nagdadala ng proyekto sa kanyang probinsya.
02:12Kababayan ko si Sen. Bunuan, hindi ko alam kung anong pasasalamat ang tinutukoy diyan.
02:19Nagpapasalamat rin naman ako kay Sen. Gatchalian, dati Sen. Erbosa.
02:24Ayon naman kay Sen. Robin Padilla.
02:26Sana lang po sa susunod pag kami nagsulat ng ganyan, ituloy-tuloy niyo naman
02:30kasi nabanggit kami pero hindi nabanggit na FLR yun for later release.
02:36Si Sen. Bonggo sinabing malisyoso ang naging testimonya ni Bunuan.
02:40Sigurado po ako na wala naman tayong ipinasang listahan kay Yusek Bernardo.
02:46Sa anumang listahan na yan, pakiklaro lang po na napakaraming listahan talaga ng proyekto
02:51na dapat aksyonan ng DPWH sa ngayon.
02:54Pero hindi ito nangangahulugan na konektado po ito sa flood control o korupsyon.
02:59So bago lagyan ng kulay, ang pagbanggit ng pangalan ko ni Sen. Robin sa kanyang testimonya,
03:07bigyan sana ng tamang konteksto.
03:09Hinihinga namin ang reaksyon si Sen. Estrada.
03:12Ako si Mackie Pulido, ang inyong saksi.
03:17Imbis po na sa mga landfill, iniisip daw ni Pangulong Bombo Marcos na dalhin ang mga basura
03:22sa mga pasilidad na kayang makagawa ng enerhiya.
03:25Critical na raw ang problema ng bansa pagdating sa basura.
03:29Saksi si Ivan Mayrina.
03:35Halo-halo ang iba't ibang klase ng plastic, styrofoam, kahoy at iba pang basura
03:40sa Redemptorist Water Channel sa Baklaran, Paranaque.
03:43Tila walang katapos ang paglilimis para sa mga manggagawang ito na mano-mano ang paghahakot.
03:48Sino gumawa niyan kundi tayo pa rin?
03:51Walang ibang gumawa niyan kundi tayo lahat.
03:54Puni na naman sa ako nila na may tapo naman sa tamang lugar.
03:58Nag-inspection doon kanina si Pangulong Bombo Marcos.
04:01Dati hindi nangyayari yan eh.
04:03Pero dahil una-una, madaming basura, nasira pa yung trust trap,
04:08tapos ang dami talagang bumagsak na tubig.
04:10Kaya tayo nakaka-ganto, nakaproblema tayo ng ganto.
04:15Anyway, you see the problem for yourself.
04:17So gagawin po natin yung trust trap doon.
04:19Dalawang layer po siya para hindi makapasok dito yung ating garbage po dito.
04:24Pero ang number one pa rin, disiplina sa mga tao.
04:26Na kailangan huwag magtapon ng basura sa creek, sa ilog.
04:31Tambak-tambak ding basura ang inanod sa bahagi ng Manila Bay sa Diokto Boulevard sa Pasay.
04:36Kung saan nag-inspeksyon si DPWA, Sekretary Vince Dizon.
04:39Sabi niya kahapon, may garbage crisis.
04:43Bagay na tinanong kay Pangulong Bombo Marcos nang siya naman na nag-inspeksyon.
04:47Yeah, it certainly is. Just look at it. Does that look critical to you? It does to me.
04:52So yes, I wouldn't call it a garbage crisis, but that is the problem that we are facing.
04:57Tingin ng Pangulo, dapat i-develop ang pagpapadala nito sa mga pasilidad kung saan pwede itong gamitin panggatong para makalikha
05:04ng kuryente.
05:05Ang patting inisip, imbis na landfill dadalhin, dadalhin sa waste to energy plant.
05:10Sa Oktobre, mapipili na ang landfill operator sa magtatayo ng ganyang pasilidad, bagamat dalawang taon o higit pa, bago ito
05:17tuluyang mapakinabangan.
05:19Sa taya ng Department of Energy, ang siyam na toneladang basurang nalilikom sa Metro Manila kada araw ay kaya magproduce
05:25ng 200 MW ng kuryente na pakakinabangan na hanggang 200,000 tipikal na bahay.
05:31Pero kailangan maayos dahil lumilika ng usok ang karaniwang proseso.
05:35Ayaw natin na dagdag sila sa emissions, so it has to comply with certain environmental requirements.
05:42Sa mga Tokyo, mga Singapore, wala kayong makakaitang usok. The technology is really proven already.
05:47Ako si Ivan Merina, ang inyong saksi.
05:56Ilang beses pong nagkainitan ng depensa at ang prosekusyon sa ikalabi limang araw ng impeachment trial.
06:01Pinunak ni Atty. Lorna Capunan ng prosekusyon ang anilay misleading questions ng depensa sa tumestikong COA Auditor.
06:08Si Atty. Christine Ferrer naman ang depensa pumalag sa mga komento sa kanya ni Capunan.
06:13Binatikos din ang depensa ang isang social media post na abogado ng prosekusyon.
06:18Saksi si Joseph Moro.
06:23Nagsisimula pa lamang ang day 15 ng impeachment trial ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
06:28Nagkainitan na ang prosekusyon at depensa sa gitna ng cross-examination.
06:32Your Honor, the council cannot dictate how I will proceed.
06:36Inalmahan ang prosekusyon ang paggamit ng depensa ng kopya nila ng mga dokumento sa cross-examination.
06:41There was no stipulation yesterday.
06:44There was no constraint. Excuse me, counsel.
06:47Have we did a comparison? Not to belabor the obvious, Your Honor.
06:51But now, counsel says, anyway, it's the same.
06:54So, if it's the same, what's the objection to using the prosecution's document?
06:58Pinunak na rin ang prosekusyon ang paraan ng pagtatanong ng depensa.
07:02Ang nakalagay po kasi sa JC Under 4.8.5 is proof of success.
07:06Your Honor, please, can the council be instructed not to stop the witness at mid-sentence, Your Honor?
07:20Your Honor, please, can the witness be directed?
07:22Do you just answer with yes or no?
07:23The council has her time to ask clarificatory questions later during redirect, Your Honor.
07:29Not all questions can be answered by yes or no.
07:32I am on cross, Your Honor, please.
07:33Misleading questions are not allowed.
07:35They are allowed.
07:37I don't think I need to lecture you that.
07:39Please, councils, let's not allow the generational or seeming generational divide increase the tension in the courtroom.
07:47Let's keep it a notch lower.
07:50Your Honor, please, I am preventing myself from giving her a spanking, Your Honor.
07:56You are all members of the bar and you are all councils for the parties.
08:01Yes, and we will be treating and looking at each one equally at Ms. Eileen, Ms. Eileen.
08:07Yes, Your Honor, I promise to henceforth behave.
08:11I have, you know, high respect for Atty. Capunan.
08:14In fact, she's one of my idols.
08:15Let's end there, counsel.
08:16Let's end here.
08:17Let's end here.
08:18You can end there.
08:18You can end there.
08:19It might sound like a eulogy, Your Honor.
08:22I'm still very much alive.
08:24Ang mga komento ni Council for the Prosecutors, Atty. Lord Nakapunan, pinalagan ni Atty. Christine Ferrer ng Depensa.
08:31I would like to ask this court to not allow side comments like, I was about to spank her, I
08:39was about to lecture her.
08:40Kasi yung mga ganun ho, Your Honor, wala ho yung lugar dito sa courtroom because we are all lawyers here.
08:47We are all professionals.
08:49Igalang naman ho natin yung kapwa natin na lawyer.
08:53Halimbawa, at kagaya nito, mas matandao sa akin si Atty. Capunan, maybe she has more years of experience, she has
09:0048 years, I have 15.
09:02We should learn to respect each other and refrain from making side comments, Oh, Your Honor.
09:07And that was captured by the media po.
09:09Atty. Capunan withdrew that statement earlier, if I remember correctly.
09:13Yes, Your Honor.
09:14In fact, I hope it was also part of the records that I promised to behave.
09:20Sa cross-examination, binigyan diin ang depensa na sa ilalim ng joint circular, hindi otomatikong humihingi ng resibo at pwede
09:28na ang acknowledgement receipts.
09:30Pero paglilino ng COA, humihingi sila ng ibang pruweba para sa ibang confidential na gastusin na walang naibigay ang bise
09:37kundi mga acknowledgement receipts lamang.
09:39Pwede bang gamitin ang other record, adequate record sa pagbili ng bagay-bagay?
09:46Opo, pwede po.
09:47So, tables, chairs, spreading adequate records at hindi kailangan official receipts sa lahat ng panon, depende sa kalagayan at sitwasyon.
09:54Pero po kasi, ito po ay nagpa-perteen sa purchases, so mas sufficient po sa amin kung maipapakita yung sales
10:04invoice at official receipts po.
10:06Ipinunto pa ng depensa na wala sa notice of disallowance ng COA sa OVP ang mga nakakatawang pangalan gaya ng
10:13Mary Grace Piatos, Pati Ting at Migi Mango.
10:16Wala pong finding si ikaw on the names, on the use of fictitious names or aliases.
10:23Nasa notices of disallowance po ba yun?
10:27Wala pong nakalagay sa notices of disallowance.
10:30If the name appears to be funny, does that automatically mean that the name is fictitious?
10:37Your Honor please, the question is misleading. The point of flashing disallowance receipts were not the names. They were flashed
10:46because of the manner by which the funds were used.
10:50Attorney Gabon, you have to admit, you had fun. You had fun with the names too.
10:54So, let her cross the witness.
10:57Hindi mo masasabi na porket nakakatawa yung pangalan, eh peke na yun.
11:01Yun, you know, by sinasabi ninyo. Parang hindi po ako makakasagot dun sa tanong na gano'n.
11:09Okay, basta walang findings na gano'n, no?
11:14Tinokoy rin ang depensa ang nakalakip sa liquidation itong Protective Intelligence Operation Report kung saan nakadetali ang mga aktividad ng
11:22BSE at ang pinaggamitan ng pondo para masigurong ligtas siya sa pagdalo sa mga ito.
11:27Papasok ko yan sa intelligence or normal work lang yan ng OVP?
11:32Sa intelligence.
11:33Profiling of participants who will be attending the event provided by organizers. Part 2 ba yan ng normal na function
11:40ng OVP?
11:41Or papasok ko siya sa intelligence work?
11:45Sa intelligence work.
11:47Ibahin natin ang payment for reward at payment for information.
11:51Ang payment for reward, yun ang hinahanapan mo ng success.
11:55Opo, tama po.
11:56Yung payment of information, hindi mo hinahanapan ng success yun?
12:00Hindi po.
12:01Tama po ba?
12:02Opo, tama po.
12:03So yung reward, kaya yung reward ang dinisalaw at yung information, hindi mo dinisalaw yung bayad na yun, di ba?
12:09Hindi po, hindi po na disalaw yung purchase of information.
12:12Tanong ni Kapunan, bakit ginamit ang pondo dito ngayong may sariling Vice President Security Group ang BSE na sinuswelduhan?
12:20Dapat din daw ay kinocoordinate ito sa law enforcement agencies na hindi raw ginawa ng BSE.
12:25The office of the Vice President has no less than 300, 400 security guards.
12:33If the security guards are being paid salaries, should these salaries be debited or reimbursed from confidential funds?
12:46Isa po, yung salaries po, hindi po siya pwedeng i-charge sa confidential fund.
12:51May finding ba kayo sa notices of these allowances nyo, both first and second notices, na yung BPSPG ay nagre
13:00-receive ng payments for reward and purchase of information from the confidential funds of the office of the Vice President?
13:08Isa pa sa ipinupunta ng prosecution, bahagi ba ng mandato ng opisina ng Vice President at Department of Education na
13:17magkaroon ng mga confidential funds?
13:19Sa madaling sabi, dapat ba na meron siyang confidential funds?
13:23Sabi ng prosecution, hindi. Sabi naman ng depensa, ibinigay ito sa BSE.
13:27Kasama ba sa mandato ng isang Vice President ang confidential operations?
13:36Kung based po dun sa nakalagay sa mandato nila, hindi po.
13:39Noong 2022, the fourth part of 2022, alam mo ba ninyo na in-approve ng Office of the President ang
13:48confidential funds ng OVP?
13:51Based po sa mga documents na na-submit sa amin, opo, meron pong approval.
13:56Noong 2023, nasa General Appropriations Act po yung confidential funds ng OVP. Tama po?
14:05Based po sa mga submissions sa amin, opo, nasa GAAPO.
14:08Bago magtapos ang impeachment trial ngayong araw, tumayo si Lead Defense Counsel Atty. Sheila Sison.
14:14In-reklamo niya ang social media post si Private Prosecutor Atty. Amando Ligutan.
14:19Nakasaad sa post sa hindi pwede ang misleading question sa cross-examination.
14:24Walang pinatungkulan pero sa tingin ng depensa, ay patungkol ito sa naonang sinabi ni Atty. Ferrer.
14:30This was posted at 11.29am by one of the private prosecutors, Atty. Amando Virgil Ligutan.
14:38I find it troubling that a private prosecutor would do this in the middle of a courtroom hearing.
14:47Paglilinaw ni Sison, ang tinutukoy raw ni Ferrer na pinahihintulutan ay ang leading questions at hindi misleading questions.
14:55Atty. Ferrer was only saying that leading questions are allowed on cross-examination.
15:01I really just find it in bad taste to do this at this time.
15:06And I think it is inappropriate to do that to a fellow member of the bar.
15:10Because even as we sit on the opposing side of this hall, we remain to be both members of the
15:19bar.
15:19And as officers of the court, we owe each other respect, you know, politeness or even kindness.
15:27Naroon si Atty. Ligutan pero sa susunod na trial na lamang daw siya pa sasagutin.
15:32Nagpaliwanag naman si Ligutan sa media.
15:35With all the respect po, kung babasahin doon, I am asking you, did I mention a name?
15:43Did I mention what case?
15:46Zero. Nothing. Nada.
15:49Si presiding officer Chisa Scudero nagbabala sa magkabilang panig na huwag magsalita tungkol sa merits ng kaso.
15:56One side has been crossing the line many, many times.
16:01And in fact, the presiding officer is already in the process of drafting a ruling and a warning and an
16:10order pertaining to this.
16:12Because clearly, I can even name all of you who have been commenting on social media in violation of Rule
16:2018 of the impeachment rules.
16:21Sa susunod na linggo ay nakatakotan ng mistigo ang dalawang disbursement officer.
16:26What do you hope to hear or what do you expect to hear from the witnesses next week?
16:31Kung faulty yung resibo, kung faulty yung acknowledgement receipts, then definitely dapat makapagbigay ng testimonya yung special disbursing officers
16:40kung saan ba talaga napunta yung pera, kung kanino ba talaga naibigay o nairelease yung mga pondo,
16:46at kung totoo o hindi yung mga resibo and yung mga dokumento na naisubmit sa liquidation.
16:52So ang exciting next week in a way is yung tatlong witnesses na pinapatawag or apat na witnesses na pinapatawag
16:59ng prosecution
17:00were all employed by the Vice President at some point.
17:03So hindi natin alam if they will be just a normal, ordinary witness or makakakita tayo today, next week rather,
17:12ng konsepto ng hostile witness.
17:14Ako si Joseph Morong, ang inyong saksi.
17:16Tambalang Robredo Tulfo at Duterte Marcos, statistically tied kung magkakaroon ng tapatan sa eleksyon 2028
17:24batay sa survey ng Okta Research.
17:26Batay sa hypothetical 2028 tandem race survey na isinagawa noong July 4 to 11,
17:3245% ang boboto sa tambala ni Nanaga City Mayor Lenny Robredo at Sen. Rafi Tulfo
17:38kung eleksyon na noong isagawa ang survey.
17:4142% naman ang boboto para sa tambalang Vice President Sara Duterte at Sen.
17:46Dora Aimee Marcos.
17:488% ang nagsabing wala silang iboboto sa dalawang tandem.
17:514% ang di makapagpas siya.
17:541% ang tumangging sumagot.
17:56May plus minus 3% na margin of error ang face-to-face survey na non-commissioned
18:02at sinagutan ng 1,200 respondents.
18:05Net Satisfaction Rating ng Administrasyon Marcos,
18:09tumaas sa positive 1 nitong Junyo mula negative 13 nitong Marso batay sa survey ng SWS.
18:15Batay sa social weather survey na isinagawa mula June 20 hanggang June 29,
18:2042% ng mga Pilipinong nasa hustong edad ang nasisiyahan sa kasalukuyang administrasyon.
18:2540% ang hindi nasisiyahan.
18:2817% naman ang hindi tiyak kung nasisiyahan o hindi.
18:31Ang positive 1 na Net Satisfaction Rating itinuturing na neutral ng SWS.
18:38Labing-apat na puntos itong mas mataas kumpara sa negative 13 na rating noong Marso
18:42na record low para sa Marcos administration.
18:44Pero mas mababa pa rin ang nakuha nitong June rating kumpara sa positive 14 na rating noong November 2025.
18:521,200 respondents ang sumagot sa face-to-face non-commissioned survey
18:55na may margin of error na plus minus 3%.
18:59Ako si Darling Inkay, ang inyong saksi.
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