00:00Catherine, I mean, I deal with it with my own kids.
00:02They're only six and nine.
00:03They're begging me for a phone already.
00:05Then I talk to my friends who have older kids,
00:07and they say, oh, we gave in, we gave the phone.
00:09And now my whole relationship with my kid is transformed.
00:12It is only about that phone and the access to the phone.
00:15It's just, it doesn't feel like a fair fight.
00:18And parents need help, too.
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