00:00And how are how is the situation? How's Derek? Well, I haven't been able to see him, Ben. I haven't
00:06seen him since Christmas, which means, of course, he's back into a situation of looking at strangers in masks.
00:14Yeah. And, you know, I think everybody that's the situation for everybody. He's got someone they love in the hospital
00:22at the moment. It's not unique to him. It's tough. It's also the same for people in care homes.
00:27And when you're someone like him that is, you know, dealing with a consciousness problem, you know, and trying to
00:37emerge, I can't help but fear that it's not helpful.
00:42Because having people and faces he knows and that stimulation is hugely important.
00:46I feel like it is. I feel like it is. And so that's very tough. And, of course, there is
00:49no end in sight to that. You know, that's a really tough thing.
00:52We've got Matt Hancock, haven't we? Health Secretary on the show a little bit later on. I haven't spoken to
00:56him since Derek got sick.
00:58Sure. And there's lots of things to ask. But, you know, there's no one to blame here. There's no one
01:02to be angry with.
01:03It's the situation we're all in, as you know, Hillary. But it's so tough, isn't it? We've got Hillary with
01:08us this morning.
01:09Yeah. I mean, it's really tough. Normally, you'd want somebody in that condition.
01:13You'd want to be there by their side to try and encourage them to come out of that semi-conscious
01:18state.
01:18And you can't do that at the moment. And that must be heartbreaking.
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