00:00Of course, Kate, because there is still such a great concern.
00:02We are still going through the pandemic.
00:04We're seeing surges in cases around Europe particularly.
00:08Yes.
00:08And people are very aware of it.
00:10You went to see Derek yesterday?
00:11I did.
00:12My own pet.
00:13My own worrying pet at the moment.
00:16How was it?
00:16Yeah, I did go and see Derek yesterday.
00:18It was quite a tough visit yesterday.
00:20He's had a tough couple of weeks.
00:25And, you know, it's just frustrating.
00:28It's actually Billy's actual birthday today.
00:30So I think I was probably extra emotional because you think about the day he was born and Derek's involvement
00:36and how much Derek would like to be present and all of that.
00:39So it's very emotional.
00:40But what the doctor said to me is sometimes, Kate, a day when nothing has gone backwards and nothing has
00:47gone wrong is a positive.
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