00:00I think I am very well suited for the 80s because the lack of adult supervision not only in the
00:07series but from the stories my parents tell me is freaking mind-blowing.
00:12Like it's just like here's like six dollars, see you in 48 hours and you're hanging out on the train
00:17tracks with your buddy like poking a dead animal with a stick you know.
00:21I can already see you guys have a great relationship. This is super sweet. It's super sweet.
00:25Yeah.
00:25Yeah.
00:27Playful I guess.
00:29Yeah.
00:29Yeah.
00:31Tell me though what was it like what were your first impressions of each other you've obviously got to know
00:35each other really well now but what was those what were those first impressions?
00:38We actually met before the Shards was even on our radar in this way.
00:43But I was hosting a reading at the Chelsea Hotel that was honoring people who either lived or died at
00:48the Chelsea Hotel.
00:49Yeah.
00:50And Graham walked in in a mesh crop top.
00:54Yeah.
00:54And well honestly an outfit that unlike anything I'd ever seen before.
00:58Yeah probably up until that moment I'd never seen the light of day.
01:01Yeah.
01:01Anything even remotely.
01:02But kind of honestly would have fit into the world of the Shards maybe.
01:06I don't disagree.
01:36I don't disagree.
01:37I don't disagree.
01:37Yeah.
01:37Yeah.
01:38Yeah.
01:38The Chelsea Hotel.
01:39Yeah.
01:39You had an amazing ensemble of people reading selections of things.
01:43I was blown away by her interest in culture and history and art.
01:47And I think as we got to know each other I realized that Graham was a lot more intellectual than
01:50I thought he was and he realized I was a lot more odd than he thought I was.
01:53Yeah we kind of like started here and then met in the middle somewhere.
01:56Yeah.
01:56Met in the middle for like two weeks and then now it's all over the place.
02:01Yeah.
02:01We flew too close to the sun.
02:03There is no one who is not odd.
02:05Can I just say it's no matter who you meet.
02:06You're saying that.
02:07You're so right.
02:08Right?
02:08Like everyone once you get comfortable with someone you hear their weird little quirks.
02:12They're like odd noises they make.
02:14Yeah.
02:14Agreed.
02:15There was no hiding in this cast.
02:16We spent so much time together.
02:18You guys know all my oddities.
02:19There was no energy to hide at the end of the day.
02:22When you're tired enough that you can't hide it anymore.
02:25Just tell me what it was like because Ryan Murphy is such a genius when it comes to these shows.
02:30When you get that call that you're being cast.
02:32I'm so waiting to come down.
02:34It's a pinch me moment.
02:35I mean any actor but especially a young actor dreams of getting to work with Ryan Murphy.
02:39Let alone a Ryan Murphy, Brett, Easton Ellis collaboration.
02:42Which is like it's insane that it took until 2026.
02:45But I'm so glad it did because this is the exact thing that I think they're meant to.
02:50It's the perfect intersection for them.
02:52It's like the stars aligned exactly perfectly for this.
02:55And I was such a fan of the book.
02:56And honestly when Ryan called me I didn't tell anyone.
03:03And I think when the announcement came out even really close friends and family were like when did this happen?
03:08I was like I refused to believe it until honestly even now.
03:12I'm like waiting for it to come out because it's really I knew I would be so devastated if it
03:18didn't happen.
03:18Because it's my two favorite artists Brett and Ryan creating something together.
03:23And so yeah I just refused to believe it was true.
03:26Oh my god you didn't tell anyone.
03:27Like I can't keep a secret like that.
03:29I didn't tell anyone.
03:29Not even like mom no one.
03:31Because I tell my mom like everything.
03:33Even stuff I'm told to keep a secret.
03:35I'm like mom get it.
03:36There are certain people that don't count.
03:37You can tell secrets to certain people.
03:39But no I really didn't tell anyone.
03:41Like I would sometimes be on the phone maybe and my agent would bring it up.
03:44And I'd have a friend be like wait what are you doing?
03:45And I was like no it's not important.
03:46Like I just was like don't worry about it.
03:48Not that it's not important.
03:49It was very important.
03:50That's why I didn't really want to talk about it.
03:52But then once the casting process started I started to feel like okay maybe it's actually happening now.
03:57You two are a very like cute couple in this together.
04:01But is there something about your characters that when you first start watching you're like oh you have no idea
04:07what's coming up.
04:08Yeah.
04:09Everything.
04:11Definitely.
04:12Yeah.
04:12I think the reason that we're set up as this perfect couple is so that we can fall as far
04:16as we do as it goes on.
04:18It's really genius writing.
04:20And it was also very important to us to sell that like just being the absolute most in love, first
04:26love, childhood sweethearts.
04:28Yeah.
04:28That was because how interesting to then watch that you know devolve or fall apart.
04:35Yeah because I haven't got there yet.
04:36I haven't got there yet.
04:37It's very exciting.
04:38It gets tough.
04:39Maybe.
04:40Maybe.
04:41Maybe.
04:41By the way are you as good a kind of organizer party planner as your character is?
04:46Because she's like the perfect pinup at the beginning anyway.
04:49Very much so.
04:51Yeah.
04:51I don't throw elaborate parties like Susan.
04:53They're my where I choose to hang out is definitely not as classy as the places that Susan goes.
05:01Oh no that's true.
05:02Really?
05:02Yeah.
05:03That's true.
05:03Really?
05:04Yeah.
05:06But yeah I'm definitely I feel like the organizer and the in many ways the mother.
05:10You provide the space.
05:12Yeah.
05:12Often.
05:13Yes.
05:13To congregate.
05:15I'm scared of the ring.
05:16Okay.
05:16I love it when you can finish each other's sentences.
05:18Sentences.
05:20Sandwiches.
05:21Obviously all set in the 80s.
05:22I'm an 80s baby so.
05:24Really?
05:25Yeah.
05:25Yeah.
05:26You look amazing.
05:27You look incredible.
05:28You look incredible.
05:29You look so good.
05:29It's wonderful.
05:30Good for you.
05:31Welcome to my world.
05:32So I love seeing like it all in this.
05:35Do you think you would have loved growing up in the 80s like having now played in that world
05:40a bit or do you think you're more suited to now?
05:44I need Google Maps.
05:45It's the only thing.
05:46I think I'm very well suited for the 80s because the lack of adult supervision not only in the
05:53series but from the stories my parents tell me is freaking mind blowing.
05:57Like it's just like here's like six dollars see you in 48 hours and you're hanging out on the
06:03train tracks with your buddy like poking a dead animal with a stick you know?
06:08This is what you do now.
06:09I know but that's what I'm saying.
06:11I'm suited for it.
06:11That's not period.
06:12I'm suited for it.
06:12But it would have been more culturally appropriate in the 80s.
06:16That's true.
06:17I could have done a whole.
06:18I would have fit right in.
06:19Yeah.
06:20I think it's very easy to be nostalgic for a time you weren't alive for so I think I
06:23actually would have crushed in the 80s perhaps but I just need Google Maps.
06:28I need it.
06:29So that's the only thing.
06:30I would be lost.
06:31I've always wanted to be in the middle of the street and unfold a big map and do the like.
06:34You can't even find my house with Google Maps.
06:37I know but I feel like it would train me to get into the nitty gritty of the streets.
06:42Yeah.
06:42It wasn't as fun.
06:43You're romanticizing it but those big maps they were not as fun as it might seem.
06:48I grew up I had maps as a kid but we had those little like ring books in the passenger
06:52door
06:52of the car where you have to pull over and everyone's yelling at each other and you're
06:55trying to go through the thing and.
06:57And everyone's yelling at each other.
07:00I mean because everyone's yelling at each other.
07:01Because everyone's family yells at each other.
07:03Because that's what families do.
07:04Because the families do right?
07:04Because the healthy family dynamic.
07:07Very quickly what do you think your hobbies would be if you grew up in the 80s?
07:11Oh man I already said poking stuff with a stick.
07:14Poking stuff with a stick.
07:15No I think I would have been a big like movie, music and like video game kid.
07:21I feel like that was the best time to be like to have like a you know like a Game
07:26Boy.
07:26I think like stuff to like I don't know.
07:29Mostly movies.
07:29Going to the cinema.
07:30Yeah going to the movies getting a VHS back to the future.
07:34Driving around in a convertible if that counts as a hobby which honestly is kind of a hobby
07:38that we've taken on.
07:39That's what we do now.
07:39That's what we do now because Hayes drives a convertible.
07:41Because Hayes has a convertible.
07:42And we benefit greatly from that.
07:44As you should.
07:45Wasn't a bad life.
07:46I mean I didn't grow up in the 80s.
07:47I was born in the 80s.
07:47Yeah I was going to say.
07:48I'm a 90s technical girl.
07:50But it's fine.
07:51It's so great to meet you guys.
07:52Thank you so much.
07:53Nice to meet you.
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