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00:00Nothing felt like an apology or accountability.
00:04To me, it was more so I did this because.
00:07So it was hard to engage with.
00:12And I ended up blocking him.
00:18Virtual reality.
00:20We are here with Ali Ekla to talk all about the McVie Dynasty.
00:24I'm so excited to have you here.
00:26I feel like there's a lot to talk about.
00:28There's a lot that's happened in the last year or so.
00:30I feel like we've already talked.
00:31I see you on my For You page every day popping up.
00:34Listen, I can't get enough of all the lore.
00:36I love it.
00:37There's a lot of lore.
00:37There's a lot of lore.
00:38And I want to, before we get into all of it,
00:40I do want to kind of take it back to the beginning.
00:43Yeah.
00:44So Stephen had originally DM'd you.
00:46You were kind of not into it.
00:47At what point were you like, maybe I'll give him a chance.
00:50Did you look him up?
00:51Did you Google him?
00:52Did you know who he was?
00:53Had you ever seen the show before?
00:54I had not seen the show before.
00:56And our mutual friend is actually the reason why I responded and agreed to the date.
01:01I ran into our mutual friend, William, at the Soho gym.
01:05He stopped me and said, basically gave him a letter of recommendation.
01:10Gave him approval.
01:11Was like, he's a great guy.
01:12He was like, I think that's your husband.
01:14You guys have so much in common.
01:16So William is actually why I responded and ended up going on the date.
01:20Wow.
01:20Yeah.
01:21That's so funny.
01:21Well, it's so funny.
01:22I'll never forget it.
01:22It's so funny to watch you guys because I feel like you're very level-headed.
01:27I feel like you're a very logical thinking person.
01:30And I feel like Stephen does kind of get that, like, you know, like, let's go at 100 miles an
01:34hour.
01:35Did it feel like that in the moment for you where you were kind of like, hold on, let's pump
01:39the brakes for a second.
01:40Like, we kind of just met.
01:42As a female, it's so, you see love stories like that where there's no pumping the brakes and it's zero
01:48to 100.
01:49It's in every movie.
01:50So, of course, when it was happening, it was exciting and flattering and fun.
01:55And I'm a romantic at heart 100%.
01:59Because of my past experience and being married where we were like that and we did go all in and
02:05everything happened so fast before we thought logically, that's why in this scenario I was excited.
02:14I also was aligned in the fact that, holy s**t, I think I just found my person.
02:18But I was also trying to say, look, there's no rush, trying to learn from my past, trying to apply
02:24that without, you know, applying it to someone where it's not that person and he's a different person.
02:29So, I was fighting myself, trying not to compare the past, but to also learn from the past.
02:36So, and also just soak up the beginning stages because I realized that you never get those moments back.
02:43And those are special and sexy and I wanted to really just soak them up.
02:47Yeah, that honeymoon phase.
02:48Everybody loves the honeymoon phase.
02:50Right.
02:50It's the best.
02:51Yeah.
02:51Well, I do want to get into, like, the family dynamics of it all.
02:54And I want to talk, I want to kind of start with the Christy of it all because she is,
02:58you know, we're watching this show for a few seasons now.
03:01We see her.
03:01She's mama bear.
03:02She's like, I like to credit, like, the good traits in these boys to her, at least from what we've
03:07seen on the show.
03:08Was that kind of your experience with her and knowing her?
03:10Yeah, we got really close really fast.
03:14We, she has two brothers and her dad had a similar business experience to my dad.
03:21Okay.
03:22And so, we had a lot in common.
03:26We liked the same things.
03:28We, you saw Steven say we dressed similar.
03:31Yes.
03:31We really hit it off quick and that connection was really fun.
03:36I've always wanted to date someone and then marry someone where I'm best friends with the family.
03:42That's huge for me.
03:43So, what you see playing out was real.
03:45I was so excited about our friendship and our relationship.
03:48And even at one point, whenever actually Steven and I had broken up during filming, she texted me as a
03:54friend and was like, I'm reaching out as a friend.
03:56Like, I, you know, selfishly want you around forever because you and I have gotten so close.
04:02But if, you know, y'all's relationship doesn't work out, we've built a relationship separate from this that I'll always
04:08be grateful for.
04:09And I felt the same way.
04:10I do feel the same way, too.
04:12So, seeing the recent comments are disappointing.
04:15At the end of the day, though, she's their mom.
04:19And I understand as a mom, you're going to be protective.
04:24And I can only control, you know, me and what I say about it.
04:28Seeing the comments are disappointing now, but I understand she's just hurt.
04:32Right.
04:32And so, have you guys talked at all since everything kind of blew up with the breakup?
04:37Since the paid actress claims?
04:39Yeah.
04:39I know a few days ago she posted that they were kind of done being in the public eye, done
04:43with the spotlight.
04:44She mentioned you.
04:45She mentioned Steven's other ex.
04:47Yeah.
04:47Have you, what's been kind of everything going on with that?
04:50That, I saw that.
04:52And this entire time, I've, my goal was to keep it between Steven and I.
04:59So, I took time to think about the comments that I saw and that were being said.
05:03And all of my responses, I've tried to only cater it to Steven.
05:09Not to her, not to the family, because at the end of the day, this is between the two of
05:13us.
05:14So, it is disappointing that she and others have gotten involved when it is between the two of us.
05:20And my family and friends, I've encouraged them not to get involved.
05:23But, again, I can only control me in this scenario.
05:27And at the end of the day, there's a lot of moving parts.
05:31I understand she is going to protect her son and wants to be protective of him.
05:38But it has been disappointing seeing the comments.
05:41Again, I've tried to keep it between the two of us.
05:43And I was looped into a comment made about Casey, which was not me.
05:48That was not a them.
05:49Yes.
05:49That was not me.
05:50I was going to say, I saw that them and I was like, oh, no, that was both.
05:52Yeah, she said them, which was disappointing.
05:54It was like, I had nothing to do with that.
05:56And I had actually known some of the information.
05:58And I would have never brought in anything to light.
06:01Like, I've kept it between Steven and I.
06:04Right.
06:04You know?
06:04Right.
06:04So, I still love Christy.
06:07I always, you know, did.
06:08We got really close.
06:10So, it's really honestly disappointing.
06:12Yeah, it's hard.
06:13And what about you and Casey?
06:15Because it seemed like you guys were even kind of building a bond and everything.
06:18For sure.
06:18In this Vegas episode and everything that we've seen so far.
06:21Despite the Talo stuff, which was really, I think, just kind of Steven meddling and getting in the middle of
06:25it.
06:25But beyond that, you guys seemed to be growing a friendship.
06:28And the percentage was disappointing.
06:30Because I do, Casey and I did have days where we planned on working together, growing together, learning from each
06:36other.
06:36So, the percentage just threw a wrench in that.
06:39Because it was kind of an unknown, I think.
06:42But because outside of that, we wanted to work together.
06:45We were planning collections and launches together.
06:48And creating content together.
06:51Doing day in the lives.
06:52And getting closer.
06:54Getting our nails done.
06:55And just trying to build that bond.
06:58So, yeah.
07:00Again, there's so much love there.
07:02It's just disappointing that, how it's played out.
07:06Right.
07:07And what do you think about Cole saying that Steven was trying to business trap you?
07:12Did you feel like that in the moment when those conversations were happening?
07:17In the moment, I didn't.
07:18And Steven is so gracious with his ideas and was always wanting to include me in what he had going
07:28on.
07:28Which I appreciate.
07:30And I was open to the idea of working with who I thought was going to be my long-term
07:35partner.
07:36That's a special and exciting bond.
07:38I just wanted to do it the right way.
07:40And there were questions that I had.
07:43There were answers that I needed just to do business with anybody.
07:47And some of those questions couldn't be answered.
07:49Which is when I started raising some flags.
07:52But we still, outside of the contracts, were always helping each other.
07:56I planned multiple shoots.
07:58I helped record multiple ads.
08:00And he helped me build on my end, too.
08:03So, we worked really well together.
08:05We always joked that we would be great business partners.
08:08And that's still true.
08:09It is interesting looking back on it now.
08:11Especially after Cole brought that to light.
08:15There were a couple other instances where things were being offered or brought to my attention that would have kept
08:24me definitely within his realm of control or in his bubble.
08:30So, looking back, of course, I naturally am like, was that to trap me or to keep me in that
08:38bubble?
08:38I don't know.
08:39So, Cole's opinion definitely started getting me thinking.
08:44The wheels started turning.
08:44The wheels were turning.
08:45Yes.
08:45Yes, absolutely.
08:46Well, I have to say, I'm so glad that you're, you know, getting this opportunity to say all of this
08:50stuff.
08:50Because there has been, there's been so much support.
08:53Like, I am on the algorithm of, like, let's support Allie.
08:55Everything that's been happening with the text and everything.
08:58But then there's also people who are like, is she just doing this for exposure?
09:01Is this, like, what's your reaction when you see comments like that?
09:05Yeah, honestly, I think because I know the truth, they really don't, they don't hurt me.
09:11Which is why you, you might have seen my natural response to a lot of this.
09:16And I've tried to only respond, not initiate.
09:19I've just responded to what's been brought to me.
09:22And it's been lighthearted.
09:24It's been kind of funny.
09:25Just making, like, a joke out of it.
09:27Because I don't, I don't take it personal.
09:29I know what my intentions were.
09:31And I know that people who, who choose to see that will see it.
09:35And people that choose not to will always find a reason not to.
09:39Right, exactly.
09:39The haters are going to hate.
09:40And my algorithm, by the way, has been all pro Allie.
09:42Yeah, see.
09:43So when I hear about it, I'm like, wait, I don't, I haven't seen that.
09:46What comment are you referring to?
09:48Like, I've, I've honestly loved the, the Bravo universe or whatever we call it.
09:53It's been great.
09:53I've loved everyone that I've connected with.
09:55I've had a great experience.
09:57Good.
09:57I'm glad.
09:57I'm glad.
09:58Because, you know, it can go either way for everybody.
10:00That's what I hear.
10:01I don't know which way it's going to hit.
10:02For sure.
10:02That's what I hear.
10:03So I'm glad that you're getting all the support that you deserve.
10:06The fans are brilliant.
10:07The audience is, is so smart.
10:09They, they, they fought, they fought my fight.
10:13They look into everything.
10:14They see it for what it is.
10:16It's very hard to get anything past the Bravo audience.
10:21So showing up authentic has been incredible.
10:24Yeah, totally.
10:25And I do want to talk about, you know, some of the stuff we're seeing this season and kind
10:29of in relation to how everything ultimately ended for you and Steven.
10:33So with the Casey Steven stuff, she said that he's scary when he's mad, you know, she got
10:39what she interpreted as a little bit of a rage text.
10:41You know, did you know at this point in the show, did you know about those kinds of outbursts?
10:47At this point in the show, no.
10:49And you see my organic reaction to that.
10:52I asked Casey what she was scared of.
10:55That was something that was hidden from me.
11:01And it makes, when I, when looking back, it makes me question too, maybe is that why
11:05the timeline was rushed?
11:06Because I hadn't seen that side yet.
11:09And it's an important side to, to see, I think true colors come out under stress and
11:15it's something that obviously relationships aren't rainbows and butterflies and there's
11:20always going to be attention.
11:22So it's important to see how someone shows up in communication in that way.
11:26So I hadn't seen that yet, which is why you kind of see me on the show asking everyone
11:30what they're talking about.
11:31What is the side I keep hearing about?
11:34And it's, you can see it on my face.
11:36It's really starting to scare me.
11:38And I actually, there's one of my reactions is crying to the thought of him showing up
11:44that way to me.
11:45I never want to be scared of my partner or my spouse or anyone in my family.
11:52My family, we, we've learned how to communicate even in the hard times.
11:56My dad's able to, we're able to have a hard, you know, conversation without screaming and
12:02yelling.
12:02Yeah.
12:02So you can see it all over my face.
12:04I was very scared to see that side.
12:06Well, I am curious because I feel like it's been alluded to a lot in the show.
12:10What happened when Steven came to visit your family?
12:13Like everybody's kind of like, what actually happened here?
12:15They kind of talk about how maybe it didn't go that well, but we didn't actually see it.
12:19Yeah.
12:19What did we miss?
12:20So that is a great question.
12:24He came for the first time over Thanksgiving.
12:27His dad was obviously about to go off and it was important to me that he was there for
12:34Thanksgiving with his dad, but his, his family encouraged him, especially Christie encouraged
12:38him to, to meet my family for Thanksgiving and they knew how we felt about each other.
12:44So they, it was important that he met my family, especially you've seen all the conversations
12:48he's talking about the future.
12:49We're talking about the future.
12:51And I just keep saying like, you, you haven't even met my friends and family yet.
12:54Like that's one of the most important things to me.
12:56So although I do see a future with you is what I would say to him at the time, I
13:00was
13:01like, you have to meet them at some point before we start planning all of those things.
13:05So we really wanted to meet them.
13:07My family's great.
13:09They're supportive of me.
13:10They trust me in my opinion.
13:11I just didn't get feedback that I was hoping for.
13:16I was hoping that they would immediately see what I saw and what his family immediately
13:21saw on us and, and they didn't.
13:25And so that was hard.
13:28And I, he obviously was going through a lot at the time.
13:32And I think that subconsciously that tends to show up.
13:38Right.
13:38And obviously too, we were doing some social media content and stuff behind the scenes.
13:44So yeah.
13:45So then when was the last time you guys had contact?
13:48Has he like tried to get you back?
13:50Has he been calling?
13:51Like, was he apologizing?
13:52Like what?
13:53Yeah.
13:54What did it look like after the breakup?
13:55Yeah.
13:56He actually wrote each family member of mine, a two page handwritten letter apologizing and
14:02sent each of the girls in my family flowers.
14:05Wow.
14:06And he shipped back not all of my stuff, but a good chunk of it and was texting me a
14:16lot
14:16of messages.
14:18To me too, nothing felt like an apology or accountability.
14:23To me, it was more so I did this because, so it was, it was hard to engage with.
14:30Um, and I ended up blocking him.
14:34Wow.
14:35Yeah.
14:35I blocked him.
14:35So I haven't talked to him.
14:37I don't plan on talking to him.
14:38He does have my horse and my saddle actually.
14:41Yeah.
14:42My vintage saddle, which has been in the family for a bit.
14:44So that's, that's, and my horse.
14:47Yeah.
14:47My dream horse.
14:48I was like, wait, you're a horse?
14:50Yeah.
14:50Unfortunately, he does have both of those things.
14:53So how do you get those back?
14:54What do you do?
14:55I'm wondering the same thing actually.
14:57I'm wondering the same thing.
14:59Yeah.
14:59I definitely need the saddle.
15:00If he could send that in a box, that would be amazing.
15:02I did just get one of my bags back.
15:05So that was the good news that showed up randomly in the mail, but I have not been in contact
15:09with him.
15:09Okay.
15:09So he's reached out to my family a little bit since then, since I've blocked him, but
15:14I, I've had no contact.
15:15Right.
15:16Well, you know what?
15:16You're strong.
15:17You're like, you're holding up strong.
15:19I feel like it's very easy to fall back into like, you know, the apology or whatever it
15:24is and the letters and the flowers.
15:26And you're like, nope.
15:27Unless you come from a family like mine.
15:30Yeah, you have a lot of support in this case, in this case, my family made it clear that
15:35if I did have a weak moment, um, they basically, you know, they would understand if I had a
15:42weak moment, but that he would never be allowed in our house again, even if I had a weak moment
15:47and I went back, he was never going to be accepted back into their house.
15:50So that for me was, there's really no going back from that.
15:55When you value your family's opinion, when you're that close with your family, the last
15:58thing you want is to be with somebody that they don't like.
16:01Yeah.
16:01That to me was really the nail in the coffin.
16:03Oh my gosh.
16:04Well, I'm happy for you and everything that you're doing now.
16:07You can just be thriving.
16:08And I do want to ask quickly before we end this chat.
16:12Um, I did see that you were out with Austin Kroll last week.
16:15Is that true?
16:15Can you, or is there something going on there?
16:18What can you say about that friendship?
16:19Yeah.
16:20Austin actually spends time in Austin.
16:22Part time is looking to move there too.
16:24And we actually met at Bravo con in the mix with everybody.
16:27And so he was in town, reached out.
16:29He actually had a, a business venture he wanted to run by me.
16:33So we got lunch and discussed that.
16:34So just friends.
16:36Okay.
16:36Uh, I realized that I, I typically start, I guess, friendships or whatever you want to
16:41call them with business.
16:42So maybe as I'm saying this out loud, this is a little bit of a learning lesson for me,
16:46but no, we're, we're just friends and it, yeah, we were talking business about a fun
16:49opportunity coming up.
16:50I love a crossover it was the crossover was funny.
16:55Yeah.
16:55He was great to talk to too.
16:56He's amazing.
16:57And his ex Madison too, is a friend of mine.
16:59She's great.
17:00So yeah, just all friends.
17:02Oh, I love that.
17:03So could we see you on Bravo moving forward?
17:06You know, do you like the reality TV world?
17:08Is that something you want to keep dipping your toes into?
17:10That might've been what this business meeting was about actually.
17:13Yeah.
17:13So there is an opportunity that I am staying open to.
17:17So I never saw this for myself, but honestly, I have loved the Bravo world.
17:24The audience has been amazing.
17:27I've really enjoyed connecting with everybody.
17:29And what I have going on is a natural extension of that world.
17:33I already have cameras on.
17:34It just happens to be my iPhone camera.
17:36So if, if, if it happens, it happens.
17:40I'm staying open though.
17:41Fingers crossed.
17:42And you know, I, I'm always open to a business opportunity.
17:45My ears are always open.
17:47So whether I say yes or not is undecided, but you need to write a book on, on business
17:52for women.
17:53I actually do have one, not a book, but I do have a course coming out called Allie's
17:56Academy.
17:57Okay.
17:58Yeah.
17:58It's like business school for creators.
18:00That's amazing.
18:01It'll be out in the next few weeks.
18:02Oh my gosh.
18:02That's so exciting.
18:04Well, I'm so excited for everything that you're doing, everything you're going to
18:07do moving forward, leaving the, the old in the past, moving forward with the new, and
18:12thank you so much for stopping by.
18:14I appreciate it.
18:14You were amazing.
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