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Sen. Josh Hawley sharply criticized Dr. Anthony Fauci during a contentious hearing, accusing him of avoiding questions after Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment. Hawley alleged that Fauci benefited financially during the COVID-19 pandemic while challenging his decision not to testify. The exchange quickly became one of the hearing's most debated moments, fueling renewed arguments over accountability, transparency, and the government's pandemic response. Watch the full confrontation and hear the claims and responses presented during the hearing.

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00:00Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:02Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc?
00:06Let's try something.
00:08What day of the week is it today?
00:13On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
00:20Constitution.
00:20What color tie are you wearing?
00:23On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
00:29Constitution.
00:30What color is the carpet in front of you?
00:35On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
00:41Constitution.
00:42Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned.
00:46As you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more, Brown versus Walker,
00:521896.
00:53When he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege.
00:57You know that. Your lawyers sitting behind you now shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it.
01:02This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt.
01:06Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people.
01:10But I think I know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions.
01:14It's because you did all kinds of terrible things.
01:18It's because during the pandemic, you got rich, didn't you?
01:21You got rich while people were dying.
01:25Hundreds of thousands of Americans over a million in the end.
01:28And you were getting rich. And not only were you doing that, you were using federal employees with taxpayer money
01:34to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you personally.
01:39Cash prizes totaling over a million dollars.
01:44You did all of that during the pandemic, didn't you?
01:47That's a question.
01:49On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
01:55Constitution.
01:56You remember Greg Fulkers? Who was that?
02:00On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
02:06Constitution.
02:06Your chief of staff is the answer. Do you remember Patricia Conrad? Who was that?
02:11On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
02:17Constitution.
02:18Uh-huh. She was your personal assistant.
02:19And what were these individuals doing in the depth of the pandemic?
02:22In November of 2020, when millions of Americans were suffering from COVID, what were they doing?
02:28I tell you what they're doing. Fulkers was on your behalf soliciting and gathering information for a cash award.
02:36Let's look at it. We've got his email right here, right over my shoulder.
02:41Fulkers says, I'm working on this nomination for the Dan David Award for Fauci.
02:45We need to beef up the COVID part.
02:47Do you have language in the can that you can share that delineates how we responded in new ways to
02:52COVID?
02:52He sends this to multiple federal employees.
02:54What was the Dan David Award? Do you remember, Doc?
03:00On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
03:05Constitution.
03:06It was a $900,000 cash award.
03:11$900,000 cash award.
03:14And he got it because he used federal employees to get it.
03:19And this wasn't the only award, was it, Dr. Fauci?
03:22In fact, you applied for and received at least eight other federal cash prizes on federal time using federal employees
03:31and federal resources.
03:32Here they are over my shoulder.
03:34Besides the Dan David Award, you've got the Partnership for Public Service.
03:37You've got the Adelson Prize.
03:38You've got the Smithsonian Award.
03:40You've got the National Academy of Medicines Award.
03:41You've got the CDC Foundation.
03:43In fact, you turned your staff into a full-time application machine.
03:47You actually wrote to people and said, do you think maybe I'd qualify?
03:52And you got cash for all of this.
03:54And it wasn't just one or two employees, was it?
03:57In fact, you used eight separate federal employees on federal time using federal resources to solicit cash awards.
04:06Isn't that true?
04:08On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
04:14Constitution.
04:14Here they are right over my shoulder.
04:16Here's all of them.
04:16The people that you use, federal employees, so that you could go and get cash money.
04:22And the most hilarious part is that you weren't content to even dragoon them into applying for all of these
04:29cash awards.
04:29You then had them go out to the ethics agencies and ethics watchdogs and demand that you be able to
04:36get the money.
04:37That's right.
04:38We've got it in your emails.
04:42Your staff and employees on federal time using federal resources being paid with federal dollars are soliciting cash for you.
04:49And then they're turning around and saying to the agency, we don't want just an answer.
04:53We want to get to yes.
04:55Because Fauci wants the money.
04:58He wants it.
04:59We want to get to yes.
05:01And yes takes time.
05:03This is your chief of staff again.
05:04Using federal email to pressure the agency's own ethics people so that you could get money.
05:12So that you could get rich.
05:14And it violated the law.
05:16Didn't it, Dr. Fauci?
05:18Didn't it?
05:20It violated the law, didn't it?
05:23Is that a question?
05:25It is a question.
05:26You can answer.
05:26Go ahead.
05:27On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
05:32Constitution.
05:33Federal law, as you very well know, prohibits the solicitation of cash awards or other personal benefits for federal employees.
05:42And it certainly prohibits using your own employees to do this.
05:475 CFR section 2635-205B.
05:51It says it right there in black and white.
05:54You cannot use federal resources, federal dollars, federal employees, federal offices, federal email, federal time to solicit cash awards.
06:04And you did all of it.
06:06And the worst part is thousands of people were dying while you were doing it.
06:09You were supposed to be the nation's doctor and you're playing one on TV.
06:13But this is what you were doing with your time.
06:15Isn't that true?
06:20On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
06:25Constitution.
06:27Yeah.
06:27Yeah, I can see why.
06:29I can certainly see why.
06:31You know, what I can't quite figure out is that why you were so obsessed with it, because you're already
06:35rich.
06:36I mean, and your scheme worked here.
06:38I mean, you're not worth now is north of 12 million dollars.
06:42You got over a million dollars in cash awards during COVID, during a 12 month, 24 month span during COVID.
06:50A million bucks you knocked down in cash money using federal resources.
06:56Now you're worth more than 12 million dollars.
06:58You've got a pension that in its first year paid out north of $400,000 a year.
07:04A million people dead, you're getting rich.
07:07A million people dead, you're using federal employees to get cash awards for you.
07:12A million people dead, and you're here taking the fifth.
07:15Because you don't want to admit that what really happened in all that time was a multi-month, multi-year
07:21course of self-dealing.
07:23Isn't that true, Dr. Fauci?
07:27On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the
07:33Constitution.
07:34Yeah, we'll silence his admission.
07:36And here's the real thing.
07:38At the end of the day, it wasn't just about the money, really, was it?
07:41It was really about a power trip.
07:43I mean, through all of this, you want to be the most famous scientist in the world.
07:47You were so focused on getting every award and every drop of cash that you could, all because you wanted
07:52to be on TV.
07:54You wanted to be the sun god of science.
07:56You wanted to be the guy who was in charge of it all.
07:59You wanted to blambass Trump.
08:00You wanted to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight.
08:03You wanted to be the guy.
08:06You had time to sit for InStyle Magazine.
08:10Here's what you were doing with your time.
08:11You could sit for InStyle Magazine, but you can't answer questions for the American people.
08:17You could sit for InStyle Magazine, but you're here taking the fifth.
08:20You could sit for InStyle Magazine and get a million bucks in cash awards.
08:24But now the cat's got your tongue.
08:27I bet he does.
08:29I tell you what, here's my conclusion from all of this.
08:32This was really all about you the whole time.
08:34Somewhere along the way, you lost your way.
08:38You may have been a good public servant at one time.
08:40I don't know.
08:41But what I can tell you from reading your emails now, from looking at what you did, how you
08:45used your employees, somewhere along the line, it became all about you.
08:49You became a narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar.
08:54And you've lied to the American people and you've lied to this body.
08:57And you've disgraced your profession by doing it.
08:59You called yourself the most famous scientist in the world.
09:02You've done more to harm science than anybody in my lifetime.
09:06And I hope you'll go home and write that in your diary.
09:10Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:11Senator Fetterman.

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