00:00I think this is a very interesting gimmick that the Prime Minister has pulled today.
00:06Moving number 10 to Manchester does not make decision-making any better.
00:12It's just creating another branch of the civil service in a different place.
00:16We did this, we moved parts of the Treasury to Darlington, Boris Johnson had a levelling-up agenda,
00:22George Osborne had the Northern Powerhouse.
00:25It's the actual decisions that are being taken that matter,
00:28not where you move people here or there.
00:31And what I'm really worried about is that we've got a new Prime Minister
00:34who should be lifting his sights and talking about how we revolutionise our economy,
00:39but he's mostly talking about the little things.
00:42Bus fares, he's not talking about AI, he's not talking about how we create jobs.
00:48He's acting as if he's still the Mayor of Manchester.
00:51You call it a gimmick, but your party did those moves and you said it should be judged on the
00:55outcome.
00:56Should this number 10 of the North be judging outcomes?
00:58Well, I think taking a door that has number 10 on it to a building that is number one is
01:03actually a gimmick.
01:05We should judge things by the outcomes, but what I want to hear from Andy Burnham
01:08is how he's going to lower energy costs, how he's going to create jobs for young people.
01:13We have a graduate recruitment crisis.
01:14We have a graduateispers on the feet of Moses and his achievements, how he's going to pull out resources,
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