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A startup founded by Bryan Johnson spent a decade building a headset that measures brain activity using lasers.

Health correspondent Hilary Brueck went to Kernel's headquarters in Los Angeles to test the technology and learn how the company believes better brain data could help doctors, researchers, and even businesses understand how we think.
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00:00This is a brain scanning headset from Kernel,
00:03a startup Brian Johnson founded years before he was famous for trying to live forever.
00:08The company says it could one day help doctors treat patients
00:12and give companies new ways to understand what consumers want.
00:15I went to Kernel's headquarters in Los Angeles to test it out.
00:19What are you doing with this data? Where is it going? And are you going to try to control my
00:24brain?
00:24We're not going to try and control your brain. We want you to control your brain.
00:28It's really about trying to give individuals agency and the information to better care for their brain.
00:33The Kernel Flow headset took 10 years to develop and uses lasers to measure brain activity.
00:38Think of it like an Apple watch for the brain, but heavier.
00:42I'm very aware of my neck muscles not being in shape.
00:45Better brain data could match patients with the right medication for conditions like depression,
00:50ADHD, OCD, and cognitive decline. And it's not just medical.
00:55Companies could eventually mine the data for insights on consumer preferences for things like potato chips and soda.
01:01One of the least well understood organs in our body is our brain.
01:05And the reason for that is that there weren't good technologies for measuring it.
01:10And I think brain and human data could be a really interesting next phase of AI.
01:18So what did I learn? Turns out my brain is, well, fine. Aging on pace, cognition in the 75th percentile,
01:27and standout scores for switching tasks and focusing. My language score was the worst.
01:32They asked, like, you know, okay, the letter J, name words that start with the letter J. And somehow I
01:39could only think of, like, three words. I don't know what happened.
01:42And my brain, like, panicked.
01:44Yeah, it was interesting because I felt, like, extremely competitive. Like, I had to defend my brain.
01:51Experts in neuroimaging told me it could take at least a decade for this brain data to yield major breakthroughs.
01:55For now, Kernel sells its headsets to researchers, private companies, and longevity clinics tracking brain fitness.
02:01And at $117,200, it's not exactly consumer tech just yet.
02:07It's like fake dramatic motions.
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