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THR contributing editor Elycia Rubin sat down with Dr. Kelly Killeen, Dr. Prem Tripathi and Dr. Carl Truesdale to discuss the best ways to heal from cosmetic work, with diet, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, red light therapy and peptides during "The After Party: Post-Procedure Protocols" panel.

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00:05Thank you all for being here. Dr. Carl Truesdale is a dual board-certified facial plastic surgeon.
00:13Please go onto his Instagram. You will go down a rabbit hole like you have not believed when
00:18you see his facelifts. They are absolutely mesmerizing. As he says, he takes 20 years
00:24off, maybe 30, and it is true. Dr. Kelly Killeen is a dual board-certified plastic surgeon. There's
00:32a difference. And she specializes in breast reconstruction and augmentation. And she's
00:39with The Practice Healthcare in Beverly Hills, a place that everybody needs to know about.
00:43And then Dr. Prem Tripathi, so lovely to have you here from up north near San Francisco in an area
00:50I just learned about. Bay Hills Plastic Surgery. Sounds like a place I want to move to. A lovely
00:56enclave. All right, we're going to get right into it. Dr. Carl, just hypothetically speaking, I just had
01:03one of your mesmerizing facelifts. I'm 20 years younger. Okay, what am I doing after leaving the
01:10OR, getting home? I want to ensure a beautiful outcome, and I want to maintain that outcome.
01:16What do I need to do as far as diet, as far as any protocols you recommend, supplements, therapies,
01:23et cetera? Skin care? So this is a great question, and hello, everyone. Thank you again for having me.
01:29It's an honor. So what I tell my patients is everything begins with a preparation. So I can perform a
01:36flawless, beautiful surgery, but unless we have a plan on how the patient's going to recover, everything
01:42will kind of go into the trash can. And so part of that is making sure the patient is optimized
01:47medically before we even go into surgery. So the diet, avoiding certain medications, avoiding
01:54certain activities, obviously smoking, all of those things set the stage for a beautiful recovery and
02:00therefore a beautiful outcome. When the patient leaves my operating room, typically the next stage is
02:06right? They're in the inflammatory stage. We want to decrease the inflammation. So that's where the
02:12icing, the sleeping with the head elevated, avoiding salty foods, all of those things help put the
02:17patient's body in a position to heal itself because a lot of doctors, we just have to get out of
02:23the way,
02:23right? We have to let the body, we have to listen to the patient, we have to let the body
02:27heal.
02:28So decreasing inflammation, there's a lot of different protocols from hyperbaric oxygen,
02:34red light therapy, peptides, all of those things are at play. And so what I tell my patients is when
02:40we are going to fight aging, right, which is a battle we're all fighting right now, I want every
02:46single player in the field. I want my general, I want my foot soldier. And so I try to bring
02:52as many
02:53of those things into play as possible. So true. And you mentioned HBOT, by the way, hyperbaric
02:59oxygen therapy chambers. I want one of these in my home because they're not even good pre and post
03:05surgery, which of course they are so popular now and so essential. They're just good for general
03:12health. And Dr. Colleen, I know you can speak to this because at the practice healthcare, you guys
03:17have, and believe me, I've looked at HBOT chambers, you have the best of the best, the top of the
03:22line,
03:22the most innovative I have seen. Dr. Castle has schooled me on why yours are so excellent.
03:29They do it all at the practice. I'd love to hear from you about why this therapy is so essential
03:35pre and post, and what the protocol is post-surgery with HBOT.
03:40So I'm an evidence-based girlie, for those of you that follow me online. And so I don't want to
03:44recommend things to my patient that are shenanigans. I want things to be evidence-based. I want to make
03:49sure that it's actually going to make them better in the end. And in the world of plastic surgery,
03:55we are also experts in wound care, which a lot of people don't recognize. And so all of us have
03:59used
03:59hyperbaric oxygen therapy to heal complicated wounds for years. I do breast cancer reconstruction as part
04:05of my practice. I have radiated patients, and I know there's evidence that hyperbaric helps soften
04:10radiated tissue and helps my mastectomy patients heal better. But we really can translate that into
04:16cosmetic improvement or elective surgery improvement by adding hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
04:20Because in addition to adding a little extra oxygen to the area, which is the obvious effect,
04:26it also decreases inflammation and swelling, which is why my facial plastics friends love hyperbaric as
04:31well with their facelifts. And the problem is, is that there's a lot of hyperbaric in town that's
04:37not real hyperbaric. So it's not getting to the pressures that you need based on the evidence that
04:43we have in the literature to actually get an effect. So they're just spending hundreds of
04:47dollars to like sit in a tent and breathe oxygen for a few minutes. I mean, certainly if that's
04:52your jam, have at it. But I mean, if I'm going to spend a couple hundred dollars on something,
04:57it better work. And so you really want to go someplace that has a physician or a PA, MP on
05:03staff
05:04that's experienced and educated at HBO, and that is going to give you the proper protocols.
05:08Now the truth is, is there's no accepted protocol for after facelifts, even after mastectomy or with
05:13my radiated patients. So it's really going to depend on the individual patient and what we're
05:19worried about. So for a patient right after a facelift, who's not particularly worried,
05:24it's just, we want to augment their healing. It's probably going to be a 60 minute session
05:27for several days after surgery. If we're worried about your healing, your skin doesn't look great,
05:33you're a mastectomy patient with some concerning healing, it might be two 90 minute sessions in one day.
05:38But it's just important if you're going to invest in these therapies that you're going to someone who
05:43understands them and is going to give you the right therapy for what your particular problem is.
05:48Thank you. And again, I learned so much about it because I did do some H-bots and I did
05:53sort of
05:54the subpar ones, although I still felt like they worked a little bit. They're not doing any harm,
05:59right? Probably not. And when Dr. The one thing I'll say though, is about a lot of these not great
06:04places is they don't follow the rules and fires and severe bad things can happen, even with the
06:11fluffy ones that aren't real hyperbaric. And so, you know, if you're going someplace, they're letting
06:16you take your cell phone in and they don't make you take your jewelry off. It's, it's risky.
06:20Run, run. And that's why it's really important that you, if you're going to choose to do these
06:24things, you want to make sure that you do them safely. Thank you. So, so interesting and fascinating.
06:30Glad to know that you guys have the ones that are the real deal. And Dr. Prem, I would love
06:36to talk
06:37to you. So again, hypothetically, I've just left your office. I've had all the things done, the laser,
06:42the microneedling, the injectables, also obviously lots of wonderful plastic surgery.
06:47I want to let this work and go the long run. I don't want to have to come back to
06:53your office
06:53too quickly. I want to let the at-home regimen with the skincare help as well. I want to protect
06:59that investment. So in addition to SPF, which we all know it's been drilled into our heads,
07:04what skincare protocols at home, both after procedures and then as well for ongoing skin
07:11maintenance, do you recommend so that we can just look ageless all the time?
07:14Yeah. Thank you for having me as well. I think, you know, the philosophy around skincare is really
07:19about scientific evidence as well, right? I think if you're actually trying to make a huge change in
07:24your skin, you're trying to make a scientific change to the biology of the skin. So while it's
07:29kind of nice to try the mists and the toners and stuff, it probably is not doing as much as,
07:33you know, a retinoid. So all of my patients get a very solid one-year protocol, which preps their skin
07:39prior to any surgical procedure, gets them prepped for any laser procedure, and then it continues
07:44thereafter. So they're getting their peptides, they're getting their retinoids, they're getting
07:48their vitamin C. They get it even prior to the surgery. It's just included because I want their
07:52skin to be in the absolute optimal shape. Some of them haven't worn sunscreen their whole life.
07:57Some of them maybe smoked 20 years ago, and so their skin is still not the best it could be.
08:01So I think you have to focus not just on the collagen production, maintaining collagen that you do have,
08:07minimizing, you know, or minimizing free radical damage from the sun, but also pairing it with the
08:12vitamin C. So the solid things that I tell my patients are, of course, an SPF, vitamin C, a peptide,
08:18an exfoliant, and a moisturizer. That will just keep your, and a retinoid, of course. That'll keep your
08:23skin in the best shape possible. It's about consistency, not trying 20 different things.
08:27And love to hear about some of the brands that you recommend to your clientele.
08:32Of course, SkinCeuticals. So the reason, you know, the thing about skincare is we know, right,
08:37medical grade is sort of a term, right? It doesn't necessarily mean that it's higher medical quality,
08:44but that the science has been put in. The effort has been done to create those scientific literatures,
08:49compare patients side by side, compare even a split-phase study. So I want to be ensured that I
08:55have giving my patients things that work. These are not cheap products, right? They last three to four
09:00months, but they are actually efficacious. So SkinCeuticals is the top thing that I use in my office.
09:05Everyone gets the CE for real, like everyone gets PT-Ox. It's just part of their sort of maintenance.
09:10I don't want them to necessarily have to choose between 200 different products. If I say a peptide,
09:14I want to know that it's going to make a huge difference. The last thing is obviously sunscreen
09:19and tretinoin. All of my patients are on tretinoin. I need them to build college.
09:23Retin-A.
09:24Or retin-A, yeah, retin-A. Because I'm a firm believer in it. I've used it for 15 years,
09:29and everyone in my office is on it, and it's just the thing to do.
09:33Retin-A is still the gold standard, right?
09:37Pretty much, if your skin can tolerate it.
09:39And I would say SkinCeuticals is here, obviously, that I was using that Floratin and CE Ferulic for
09:4715 years. I get so many compliments on my skin, and I really credit to when I got into medical
09:52-grade
09:52skincare, that's what I started off on. So kudos to SkinCeuticals. Thank you, everybody.
09:59Thank you, everybody.
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