00:00Well, a colleague used to take Anne about, but he retired from taxiing, so I took over all the business
00:05with Anne, so I took her everywhere, really.
00:09So you were Anne Wickham's driver?
00:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12And how long had you done that role?
00:14About 10 years.
00:15Oh, she was a great...
00:16She's the driver, okay.
00:17Anne Wickham's driver says she never expressed any fear for her safety, never.
00:23Lady, very kind, you know, she was absolutely privileged to take in the car.
00:30And she was funny at times.
00:31I like her because if you asked her a question, you'd get a direct answer.
00:37All right.
00:37No mocking about.
00:39No, she was brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
00:42She was a brilliant one and is a brilliant woman.
00:46That's what driver is saying.
00:47So yesterday, I thought she'd had a heart attack or a stroke or something.
00:52Of course, then later it turned out it was a suspected murder.
00:56Just shocked, absolutely shocked.
00:58And I spoke to Harriet, her PA, up in Kent.
01:02And, you know, Harriet didn't know at that time what had happened, you know.
01:08Also suspecting it is a murder.
01:10It is a murder that suspects.
01:12It was, yeah, very sad.
01:15Very sad.
01:16Probably about three weeks ago.
01:19But she had another driver that would take her locally to the train station.
01:23But I'd done all the long distance stuff.
01:27She was always doing talks for somebody.
01:29Yeah, she was a wonderful woman, you know.
01:32Okay, she was really good to everyone.
01:34That's what driver is describing.
01:36It's literally a murder case.
01:39Absolutely.
01:40And it's so sad, isn't it?
01:43You know,
01:45it takes and replacing that sort of, you know, she was great at her job, you know.
01:50You got what you saw on the tin.
01:53If you didn't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question.
01:57True, true.
01:58Everything is true, he's saying.
01:59Yeah.
02:00So I will certainly miss her.
02:02Well, she was in the theater talking.
02:04I forget.
02:04I think we were up in Whitby.
02:06And she'd done her first half of that, just talking about herself.
02:11And then it was a question and an answer.
02:14You can see the police is there.
02:15The safety is full.
02:17Police are also having a moment.
02:18Everyone is thinking this is murder.
02:21Afterwards, they would ask her a question.
02:24And one gentleman put his hand up.
02:26She said,
02:27And did you ever like anybody in the opposition party, i.e. the Labour?
02:33She said,
02:33Yes, I did, actually.
02:36And he said,
02:37Can I be rude and ask you what it was?
02:38She said,
02:39Yes, it was David Blunkett's dog.
02:41Okay, yeah.
02:43She was such a great woman.
02:46So she was very comical.
02:48Very comical.
02:48Down to earth.
02:51Just a great woman.
02:53When was the last time you worked for her, when you'd driven her last?
02:55I think I took her to Yeovil for a, I think it was a WI meeting or something.
03:00But she always looked after me, made sure I had something to eat.
03:03Coffee.
03:03When you know, she was really, really thoughtful.
03:06She'd never expressed.
03:07She was very lovely, that's what I'm saying.
03:09She looks after the driver and that's because she's really a great woman.
03:15Any concern, had she, about her safety?
03:17I mean, obviously, politicians' safety.
03:18No, not really.
03:19She seemed quite happy living up here by herself.
03:23You never expected, do you?
03:25Yeah.
03:25Well, I didn't, certainly.
03:27You know, very sad.
03:29I said, I can't believe it.
03:30You know, somebody, you know, I knew they arrested one guy, but they let him go now.
03:37Whatever has happened, damn, bro.
03:38This is not what we defend.
03:40But no, it's just a shock.
03:42Oh, she loved it.
03:43She liked being by herself.
03:45Loved walking up on the moors.
03:47And as you know, she got a swimming pool at the back.
03:50If she come back late or late-ish, she'd always have the brandy and go for a swim.
03:56Very, very good, you know.
03:58She was very good at riding, swimming and all these things.
04:01That's what he's saying.
04:02And she felt safe here?
04:03I presume, you know, she never mentioned any fear or anything like that.
04:07Does she have CCTV cameras?
04:09I believe so.
04:11I can't say.
04:12When you went into the driver, all the lights used to come on.
04:15So I presume she had cameras.
04:17I would have thought.
04:18Yes.
04:19She probably had some cameras because that's the matter of having written safety.
04:24I can't say for certain.
04:27And she had the gardener, of course.
04:29I think he was the gentleman that found her, I think.
04:33And then she had, like, a lady come done her cleaning.
04:36Now she was just a superwoman, you know.
04:39We sadly missed.
04:40Just remember.
04:42Really, she was a superwoman.
04:44We miss her presence in, like, yes.
04:48I thought she was a great politician.
04:52She was very strong in her views.
04:54And I don't think you'd be able to replace that sort of process.
04:57Nobody can replace her.
05:00Literally, nobody can replace her.
05:02Nobody.
05:02Could be a little bit outspoken at times.
05:04But that was Anne, you know.
05:07Oh, my God.
05:08Literally, bro.
05:10Sad for everyone.
05:12Sad watching all this.
05:14Damn.
05:14JD.
05:14A hair a hair.
05:14I think she's a big one.
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