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White Lies Episode 2
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00:09come in I come bearing gifts I didn't invite you no but I was in the
00:20neighborhood you live an hour away fine I wanted to see you
00:47you kept them they're good paintings the artist would be happy to hear that why
00:55are you really here I heard about Jeffrey the divorce the criminal
01:01investigation Nicholas told me everything about your sister I'm sorry I
01:06didn't know no one knew that was the point you've been carrying this alone
01:11for five years I'm used to it
01:22you don't have to anymore yes I do until he's in prison I'm not done
01:32then let me help
01:35this isn't your fight it is now the snow 10 years ago you saved my life I never forgot
01:45that was a different life maybe but you're still the same person the one who stops for strangers
01:51the one who fights for people who can't fight for themselves
01:57I'll wait however long it takes
02:15we have the settlement agreement Martha's testimony and the new recording of Jeffrey's bribe attempt
02:22but we still don't have me as testimony without it a jury might not convict
02:30she can't testify she's not well then we need something else another victim
02:37I've been looking for five years I haven't found anyone
02:46what about Victoria he emotionally abused her that's a pattern
02:51whatever you think I what's a going pattern evidence is admissible in some states
02:56but it's not enough for a sexual assault charge
03:00then find another way wire fraud money laundering witness treempering put him away for something
03:07you're willing to let him walk on the assault charges
03:11I'm willing to let him rot in prison for anything
03:17you didn't tell me about the snow about saving my brother
03:23it wasn't relevant
03:24he's been looking for you for 10 years
03:27and you just let him
03:31I had other things to focus on
03:36like revenge
03:38like justice
03:39there's a difference
03:43is there
03:44revenge is personal
03:45justice is for everyone
03:47I want him in prison so he can't do this to anyone else
03:50that's not revenge
03:52that's prevention
03:54you really believe that
03:58I have to
04:22I found something
04:26what is it
04:32there was another one
04:34not your sister
04:35a different student
04:36her name is Sarah
04:40where is she now
04:41Oregon
04:42she's married
04:43different name
04:44I have her contact info
04:47the professor was Jeffrey's friend
04:49they covered for each other
04:50Sarah might have information about both
04:55I'll call her
05:09hello
05:11Sarah
05:11my name's Ella White
05:13my sister was Mia White
05:15five years ago she accused Jeffrey Wintrop of
05:18I know who you are
05:19I saw the news
05:20but I can't
05:21I have a family now
05:22I can't go through that again
05:25I understand
05:25but Mia
05:26my sister
05:27she's still in a care facility
05:29she hasn't painted in five years
05:30he took everything from her
05:32Mia White
05:33she was the one who spoke first
05:35I read about her
05:36she's still fighting
05:37but she can't do it alone
05:38I've been waiting five years
05:41to tell the truth
05:41no one believed me back then
05:44but if your sister was brave enough
05:45to come forward
05:46so am I
05:50thank you Sarah
05:51don't thank me
05:52thank your sister
05:54thank you
06:03thank you
06:04thank you
06:05thank you
06:10we found another one sis
06:14another victim
06:16her name is Sarah
06:19she's going to testify
06:26you're not alone anymore
06:38he told me no one would believe
06:40a starving artist
06:41against a billionaire
06:42he was right
06:44no one did
06:45would you be willing to testify in court
06:50yes
06:51for Mia
06:53and for every other girl he hurt
06:59with Sarah's testimony
07:00we have enough to indict Jeffrey
07:02on multiple counts
07:03but I need to warn you
07:04his lawyers will attack
07:06your sister's credibility
07:07they'll say she was unstable
07:08they'll use her medical records
07:10against her
07:10let them
07:11my sister is not on trial
07:13he is
07:17I'll file the charges
07:18by the end of the week
07:34you did it
07:38we did it
07:39Sarah was brave
07:41she was
07:42but she shouldn't have had to be
07:44none of them should have
07:47what happens after
07:49when he's in prison
07:51then I figure out who I am
07:53without revenge
07:54you're the same person
07:56you just won't have to carry
07:57the weight anymore
08:05you
08:07you
08:39Jeffrey Winthrop, the former CEO, was taken into custody this morning following a two-year investigation.
08:55Are you okay?
09:02He's arrested. He's actually arrested.
09:13You missed it. The arrest.
09:16I saw it from across the street.
09:20Why didn't you go inside?
09:22I didn't need to see him handcuffed. I needed to see him afraid.
09:30Was he?
09:33Yes.
09:45What are you thinking?
09:49I'm thinking I might be able to breathe soon.
10:02Bail is set at $5 million.
10:05The defendant will surrender his passport and wear an electronic monitor device.
10:15Objection, Your Honor.
10:16Overruled.
10:17Remanded into custody pending trial.
10:19No bail.
10:30Mrs. White, are you the consultant who uncovered the evidence against Jeffrey Winthrop?
10:37I'm the consultant who did her job.
10:41Is it true your sister is one of his victims?
10:46My sister is not a victim. She's a survivor. And she's not on trial. He is.
11:03Who's that?
11:05Alexander.
11:06Why?
11:08He makes you smile. I like him.
11:13He's complicated. Everyone is complicated. You're complicated. That doesn't mean you should be alone.
11:24When did you get so wise?
11:27Always.
11:41The DA's office called. They want to depose Sarah next week.
11:45And they want to talk to your sister. Just an informal interview, not under oath.
11:49To see if she can handle testifying.
11:52She can't. She's not ready.
11:55I know. I told them that. But they're worried Sarah alone won't be enough.
11:58Then find more victims. There have to be more.
12:01I'm trying. But these cases are old. People have moved on. They don't want to relive it.
12:06Neither does my sister. But she didn't have a choice. Neither do they.
12:11There's something else. The private investigator found a woman in Chicago.
12:15Same pattern. Mentorship, art funding, then assault.
12:20Her name is Lisa. She's willing to talk.
12:25I'll call her.
12:31Hello?
12:33Lisa. My name is Ella White. My sister was Mia White five years ago.
12:38I know who you are. I saw the news. I've been waiting for someone to call.
12:42Would you be willing to speak to the DA?
12:44I'll do one better. I'll testify. I've been silent for seven years. I'm done.
12:50Thank you, Lisa.
12:51Don't thank me. Thank your sister. She was the first one who spoke. The rest of us were too scared.
13:06Two now, sis. You're not alone.
13:16Another one, sis. Her name is Lisa. She's going to testify.
13:39Thank you for seeing me.
13:43Thank you for trusting me.
13:46I read about you.
13:49About the Winthron case.
13:51About your sister.
13:52You're not just a consultant.
13:54You're a fighter.
14:00I'm both.
14:01What do you need?
14:13Do you have access to his financial records?
14:20Some.
14:22Not all.
14:23Then we start there.
14:25I'll bring in a forensic accountant.
14:27Don't delete anything.
14:29Don't confront him.
14:30Just wait.
14:34How long?
14:36As long as it takes.
15:06Finally.
15:14You make it look so easy.
15:19You're holding the pencil wrong.
15:21Show me again.
15:29You two look cozy.
15:31She's teaching me to draw.
15:38You're terrible.
15:41I know. She said I need practice.
15:45He's a good student.
15:49You're terrible.
15:52I know. She said I need practice.
15:52I know.
15:55I know.
15:55I know.
15:56I know.
15:58I know.
15:59I know.
16:00I know.
16:01I know.
16:02We found another witness.
16:03A former employee of the Winthrop Foundation.
16:06She handled the payments to the art school.
16:07She has emails showing Jeffrey personally approved the settlement.
16:11That's direct evidence.
16:12It is.
16:14Combined with Sarah and Lisa's testimonies, we have enough for a strong case.
16:18But we still need to address the defense's likely strategy.
16:21They'll attack the victim's credibility, especially your sister's, given her medical history.
16:26Then we put a psychologist on the stand.
16:29Explain that trauma doesn't look the same for everyone.
16:31That her bake-down is evidence of what he did, not against it.
16:37You've thought about this a lot.
16:40For five years.
16:41I'll assign a victim advocate to work with your sister.
16:44Just to see if she's willing to give a deposition.
16:46Not in court.
16:47Just on video.
16:48That way the jury can see her without her having to face Jeffrey.
16:55I'll ask her.
17:02The DA wants to talk to you.
17:04On video.
17:06You don't have to go to court.
17:08Just answer questions.
17:10Tell your story.
17:14Will he see it?
17:15His lawyers will.
17:16But not him directly.
17:18Not in person.
17:22I'll do it.
17:23For you.
17:24And for the other girls.
17:30You don't have to do this for me.
17:32I know.
17:34I'm doing it for me.
17:45I heard she agreed.
17:47Yes.
17:49That's brave.
17:51She's always been brave.
17:52I just forgot.
17:54Ella.
17:55When this is over.
17:57When he's in prison, what then?
17:59I told you.
18:00I don't know.
18:00Then figure it out.
18:03But don't push me away while you do.
18:07I'm not pushing you away.
18:09You're not letting me in either.
18:13I'm trying.
18:14I'm trying.
18:15I'm trying.
18:19I'm trying.
18:20Try harder.
18:36Mia, can you tell us what happened five years ago?
18:42He came to the art school.
18:44He said he wanted to support young artists.
18:48He said I was talented.
18:50Special.
18:52He invited me to his house.
18:54For mentoring.
18:56I went.
18:56I was 18.
18:57I thought he was helping me.
19:00He locked the door.
19:01He said no one would believe me.
19:03He said I was nobody.
19:04He was wrong.
19:06Why are you coming forward now?
19:10Because my sister never stopped believing me.
19:15And because I'm not nobody.
19:30You did it.
19:34I did it.
19:36Now go.
19:37Finish the rest.
19:44I will.
19:51The evidence is insufficient.
19:53The alleged victims have questionable motives.
19:57Denied.
19:58The case will proceed to trial.
20:00Trial date set for six weeks from today.
20:12See you in hell.
20:19Six weeks until trial.
20:21Six weeks to find more evidence.
20:25You've done enough.
20:27There's never enough.
20:29Not until he's convicted.
20:32And after conviction?
20:33What then?
20:35Then I breathe.
20:38I'm not going anywhere.
20:39This is a fire.
20:40No.
20:49Lucy.
20:50I hope you in here.
20:50I hope you're Yup'e interesting.
20:51I hope you're doing this again for a while.
20:51You
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