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00:00See you next time.
00:32May unang balita si Sandra Aguinaldo.
01:00Tungkulin natin timbangin ang mga ebidensyang ihaharap at piyakin ang ating magiging pasya ay nakabatay lamang sa batas at sa
01:10mga katotohanang mapatutunayan sa paglilitis.
01:15Tatlong senador ang hindi nakadalo, si Senador Ronald De La Rosa na nagtatago, at mga nakakulong na sina Senador Jingoy
01:23Estrada at Rodante Marcoleta.
01:26Agad naging mainit ang talakayan ng tutulan ng ilang minority Senators ang binuksang proseso para sa pagboto ng bagong presiding
01:35officer.
01:36Argumenta ni Senador Alan Peter Cayetano, Senate President, ang dapat tumayong presiding officer.
01:42Pagkaman hindi daw ito nakasulat sa saligang batas, ito naman daw ang intensyon ng framers ng 1987 Constitution, base sa
01:52transcript ng kanilang deliberasyon noon.
01:54Institutional integrity. We need to protect the legitimacy of these proceedings.
02:00Even with the substitute presiding officer acts fairly, a conviction or acquittal reached under constitutionally defective process would invite judicial
02:10challenge and cast doubt on the validity of the entire trial.
02:14Punto ni Cayetano, nagugat ang issue sa kinokwestiyon niyang sasyon noong Hunyo kunsan inamiandahan ng impeachment rules para payagan ang
02:24eleksyon ng presiding officer ng impeachment.
02:27Sagot ni Gatchalian, dumaan ito sa tamang proseso at ang tamang lugar daw para talakayin ang issue ay kapag nasa
02:34sasyon ang Senado.
02:35No one objected to that resolution and it was duly approved by the body. So any discussion regarding this resolution
02:47should be discussed in plenary when the Senate convenes as a legislative body.
02:56We did not follow our rules. So a rule that was passed that did not follow our rules or amendment
03:03that was passed that did not follow our rules is void.
03:06Sinigundan si Cayetano ng kanyang kapatid.
03:09We looked at what the constitutional framers said. What did they say? This is the foundation of this trial na
03:16tama yung nakaupong presiding officer.
03:18Si Sen. Kiko Pangilinan, nagpuntong dinala na ni Cayetano ang usapin sa Supreme Court sa pawamagitan ng petisyong ipawalang visa
03:27ang June 3 sa shot.
03:29The matter is pending before the Supreme Court. There is no temporary restraining order. There was a request for a
03:36status quo ante order. It was not granted.
03:39The point of order is improper. In fact, the debate on this matter here in the impeachment court is out
03:52of order.
03:52Sa huli, nagkaroon ng botohan.
03:54Pursuant to rule 2 of the rules of procedures on impeachment trials as amended, I move to elect Senator Judge
04:04Francis Joseph Guevara Escudero as the presiding officer of this impeachment court.
04:12Objection, Mr. President, I'm allowed to object and I'm allowed to explain my objection.
04:20You are allowed to object but we will proceed with the division of the House.
04:24Labing dalawa senador ang bumoto kay Escudero. Walo ang tumutol. Hindi bumoto si Escudero.
04:30Sa pagpupaliwanag ng kanyang pagtutol, may patama si Cayetano kay Escudero.
04:36I have information that the 20 years AMLA records of Senator Escudero and his credit cards and bank accounts were
04:45all opened up in the office of the Senate President where members of the Blue Ribbon Committee was here.
04:52Then we're going to ask him to preside.
04:55So there's a problem. This is my explanation.
04:57To the gentleman from the game, with all due respect, your statements are already out of order. It has nothing
05:07to do with the topic on hand.
05:09And the presiding officer will strike off the statements pertaining to Senator Escudero.
05:20Dahil umiinit na ang usapan, sandaling sinuspend ang trial. Dito na umakyat sa podium si Escudero sa tabi ni Quechallan
05:29para pamunuan ang impeachment court.
05:32Sa kanyang opening statement, may paalala si Escudero sa kapwa Senator Judges.
05:37This is why the trial must be guided with prudence, tempered by caution, and marked with unquestionable impartiality.
05:45We must avoid even the appearance of impropriety and observe the cold neutrality of an impartial judge at all times.
05:53May I therefore caution my fellow Senator Judges, the prosecutors, the respondent, and their respective counsels and witnesses,
06:00to refrain from making any comments and disclosures to the public pertaining to the merits of the trial as mandated
06:07by the impeachment rules itself.
06:10Tinalaki rin ni Escudero ang issue kung ilang boto ang kailangan para makonvict ang respondent na si Vice President Duterte.
06:19The Constitution provides that no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two-thirds of all the members of
06:28the Senate.
06:29With 24 members of the Senate, a literal interpretation of this means that conviction requires the affirmative vote of at
06:36least 16 Senator Judges.
06:38This is the prevailing law today.
06:41Whether we agree with it or not, we must abide by it.
06:45However, those who disagree are not without recourse,
06:49because they is without prejudice to the right of any party who holds a different view, to seek judicial relief.
06:55G.T. Escudero, sakaling maglabas ng pasya ang Korte Suprema na iba sa kanyang sinabi,
07:03masusunod ang pasya ng Korte Suprema.
07:05I think you saw after si Senator Cayetano tried to put it on record na it's the decision of the
07:10court na 16.
07:12I don't think legally that is the case right now in the sense that it can be brought up again.
07:18It still depends na how yung trial will go on and are there additional arrests that will be made,
07:23are there senators who cannot participate, etc.
07:26Ang House Panel of Prosecutors nagbosyo na basahin ang apat na articles of impeachment
07:32at mag-enter ng tugon ni Duterte o kanyang plea na guilty or not guilty sa bawat article of impeachment.
07:40Tinutulan nito na depensa.
07:42Sa huli, tinanggihan na impeachment court na i-arrange si Duterte.
07:46We understand the position of the impeachment court that an entry of plea of not guilty
07:54is dimmed from the filing of the answer of the respondent.
07:59We understand that.
08:00But it was our intention really to place it on record regardless of the decision of the impeachment court
08:07to make it more organized, to make it more responsive to the mandate of the Constitution,
08:13and to make it consistent.
08:15Tinalakay na rin ang iba pang pending na issue, kaugnay sa magiging takbo ng paglilitis.
08:22Kaugnay naman sa Selyadong Kahaw naglalaman ng tax records ni Vice President Duterte
08:28at Mister na si Attorney Manassez Carpio.
08:31Nagpa siyang impeachment court na ibalik ito sa Bureau of Internal Revenue o BIR.
08:37Katwira nila, hindi nila iniutos ang pagsusumite nito.
08:41Tungkol dito sa BIR box, yes, totoo, binalik ang BIR box, but this does not mean na nawala na yung
08:49evidentiary value
08:51nitong evidentyang ito because at the proper time, ibabalik po ito, i-offer po ulit ito ng ating prosecution
08:59at hopefully the court will admit this as an evidence.
09:02So sa ngayon, ay nandyan lang yan.
09:05We will reserve our comments for when that time happens or when it actually happens.
09:10Humiling naman ang prosecution na ipasabpina ang halos sampung bank managers
09:15mula sa iba't ibang bangko at branches, mula Davao hanggang Metro Manila.
09:20Pinalagan ito ng depensa, bagaman ipinag-utos pa rin ng impeachment court,
09:25ang mga sabpina para rito.
09:27We will include all our position and as well as our objections on the request with respect to these documents
09:35and what it would seem to the defense would be another 2.0 version of a fishing expedition.
09:46Ang minority senators naman, hindi pa rin isinusuko ang dapat-anilang pagsali
09:52ni na Sen. Estrada at Marculeta sa impeachment court.
09:56Baka raw pwede itong hingin sa sadigang bayan.
10:00Walang nag-object sa mga senator-judge mula sa mayurya.
10:04Pero para kay Sen. Rafi Tulfo, pwede kung manonood lang naman sa TV.
10:10Ang hinihingi po namin ay makapunta po sila dito bilang observer.
10:15Hindi lang po basta monitor.
10:18Ipinag-utos naman ni presiding officer Escudero sa sekretaryat
10:22na i-upload online lahat ng dokumento, memo at ebidensya sa kaso para sa transparency.
10:30If a evidence presented is a fruit of the poisonous tree, will we upload that?
10:37In so far as documentary evidence is concerned, it will only be admitted and if at all admitted by the
10:45court
10:46and published once formal offer has been made.
10:49Until such time, we will not publish any documentary evidence even after being identified by a witness
10:57because it is the formal offer that will determine its admission by the court.
11:02Ito ang unang balita. Sandra Aguinaldo, GMA News.
11:09GMA News.
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