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Heat Vision's Patrick Shanley sits down with special guests Yvette Nicole Brown, Roth Cornet, Kyle Buchanan and Rebecca Sun for a candid conversation about the upcoming horror movies in 2018.
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00:04Hello, everyone, and welcome to Heat Vision's horror movie preview or breakdown, or as I like to call it, the
00:09spooktacular.
00:12I'm going to ghost around our panel.
00:15How all you are doing?
00:17We have Roth Cornett, we have Yvette Nicole Brown, Kyle Buchanan, and Miss Rebecca Sun.
00:23Thank you all for joining us.
00:24We have three fantastic horror movies coming out in October and November.
00:28We are looking at the Halloween reboot or the next sequel, the next in the series of the Halloween series.
00:35Overlord from Bad Robot, and we also have a remake of Suspiria.
00:39What are your guys' thoughts on these three new horror movies ready to spook audiences in the late 2018?
00:45Give me Halloween right now.
00:48I think it's picking up from two and pretending everything else after that didn't exist.
00:53Is that correct?
00:54You're talking to me like I like horror movies?
00:57I like you immediately latched onto Rebecca.
00:59I look at that, and I am just, let's go, Granbo.
01:03You know, this is just a woman who has spent her life waiting for this moment to attack the attacker.
01:13There is a beautiful symmetry.
01:16Halloween is probably my favorite horror movie.
01:17I feel like it's such a basic thing to say, and I should say repulsion or something like that, or
01:23The Fly, which are also great.
01:24But Halloween for me is a perfect movie for what it is.
01:29And this is this really perfect symmetry, and it introduced this era of the slasher film and the final girl
01:36and the scream queen.
01:37And this is her coming to fruition as a fully grown, adult, older woman.
01:42Get it?
01:43Yes.
01:43Yes.
01:44I, like you, am actually not a fan of the horror genre.
01:48I think people think because I love The Walking Dead that I'm, like, into that.
01:51I'm actually really not.
01:52I'm a chicken.
01:53I'm a chicken, and I also, I don't like to see people suffer in life, and it's, I just, to
02:00pay to go and watch someone suffer makes me feel crazy.
02:03Except for the Halloween aspect of Laurie Strode, the idea, I'm with you on that.
02:07The idea of her taking back her power, and I was blessed to moderate the panel in Hall H at
02:13Comic-Con with the wonderful Jamie Lee Curtis.
02:15And she had this great story about how it's not even about the slasher and the horror.
02:20It's about understanding that she was damaged, and this is her way to work through her damage and take back
02:27her life.
02:27And so it's really like an empowerment piece for women.
02:30And I was like, well, I'm going to go see it.
02:33And I've seen all of them.
02:34I've just not enjoyed the horror of the horror every time I've gone.
02:37But I'm with you on the Halloween.
02:38Yeah.
02:39I saw Yvette's panel, which was great.
02:41Aw, thank you.
02:41And they showed fantastic clips.
02:43There was, in particular, this really interesting scene that's all done in one take that follows Michael from house to
02:50house to house.
02:51And it was really well done.
02:53But it was exactly what you said, the way that Jamie Lee Curtis talked about this character and what excited
02:58her about it.
02:59I mean, she's the best thing that this film has as far as marketing it because she got me from,
03:05you know, generally interested to must see.
03:08I gotta see it, right.
03:09And what she made it sound like is there's an incredible performance at the center.
03:13And I think that really good horror movies, you know, people think about the kills or they think about, you
03:18know, the filmmaking.
03:19But I always look for that performance at its core.
03:22And I think I'm hoping that that's what we're going to get here.
03:25I mean, I do respect the Halloween franchise in particular for all the things that you mentioned.
03:29It really set the precedent for a lot of famous tropes that were then sort of executed to varying degrees
03:35of success.
03:35And I do think that horror at its best is an ideal vehicle for delivering, like, certain metaphors about society,
03:42about life, about just eliciting emotions.
03:45And that's why movies like A Quiet Place or Get Out are technically horror genres, but they are telling a
03:51much deeper story.
03:52Even a movie like The Purge kind of explains some things that are...
03:56It allows you to sort of, you know, because it creates these elaborate, really extreme analogies, it helps you understand
04:03things.
04:03I mean, I think that for me, it's like, those are the cream of the crop.
04:06And then the genre, because it's so vast, sometimes it gets diluted by things that are a little, like, lazier
04:12or, you know, sensationalistic.
04:14But I really do respect the difficulty of horror and the creativity and artistic integrity behind it.
04:20I just don't need to be stressed out for, like, two and a half hours.
04:23You know?
04:24They're easy resolution.
04:25They're like morality plays.
04:27You know, horror movies and horror as a genre, even going way back, if you look at sort of myths,
04:33horror is always about morality.
04:36And it is making some kind of statement or, and it was, and Scream reflected this, where it was, oh,
04:44well, if you don't have sex, you'll survive.
04:47And it kind of reflects, like, what are the cultural norms and what do we consider of that time?
04:52So with Halloween coming out now, I think it's especially beautiful in the sense that Deborah Hill, who is this
04:58unsung hero, who co-wrote Halloween and produced it, of that genre.
05:04I feel like Jamie Lee Curtis is, like, almost doing this for Deborah, you know?
05:08And Laurie Strode coming into her own this way.
05:10There's just something very powerful and beautiful about it.
05:13Maybe I'm getting my expectations too high.
05:15I hope not.
05:17I don't think she'd come back if it wasn't exactly what you said.
05:20Right.
05:20And as we mentioned, it's not the only reiteration of a film that we've seen years ago.
05:26We also have Suspiria coming out, which is an all-time classic in the horror genre and a very artsy
05:30film, also a very stressful film.
05:31So maybe not in Upper Becca's Isle.
05:34But it is coming from director Luca Guadagnino, who just was nominated for Best Picture last year with Call Me
05:40By Your Name.
05:40He's a very interesting choice for me for this, or it's interesting to me that he would choose to do
05:45this movie as a follow-up.
05:47The original Suspiria is a gorgeous-looking film.
05:50The cinematography in it is amazing.
05:52It's very disorienting.
05:53It's very frightening and disarming.
05:55I mean, I'm interested to see what he does with such a completely different material than what he just did
06:01with Call Me By Your Name.
06:02Well, I think it's a fascinating thing.
06:04We've sort of touched on it.
06:05All of these people gravitating towards the horror genre that are not necessarily horror filmmakers.
06:11David Gordon Green, who did The New Halloween, he's not made a horror movie.
06:14He's known more for things like Pineapple Express or these intimate dramas.
06:18Luca has not made a horror movie.
06:19But then, you know, Jordan Peele and John Krasinski making the films that they made, Get Out in a Quiet
06:24Place, those were unexpected as well.
06:27So it's sort of what Roth was saying, you know, this genre is such a great morality play, like a
06:35vehicle to explore things.
06:37And you're almost sort of cloaking it under something suspenseful and scary, but you can sneak in something too.
06:44So it's really about what does Luca want to sneak into this?
06:47Stylistically, it actually feels like a really appropriate fit for this remake in the sense that the filmmaking in Call
06:55Me By Your Name is of a different era.
06:58It felt very much like a 70s film to me.
07:01There was like the asymmetrical editing with the sound and there were these very abrupt cuts.
07:08And so stylistically, I get it.
07:11I get this choice for him.
07:13Genre-wise, he clearly has something to say.
07:16I just don't know what that is yet.
07:18Yeah, and even the look of the film, it's much more wintry than the very colorful Dario Argento version of
07:24Suspiria.
07:25But I think what Luca is trying to do is, you know, this is a movie that's set in Berlin
07:30a few decades ago.
07:31And he's trying to sort of mimic the, you know, the Fassbinder, Werner Herzog movies that were made then.
07:39And the look of them, the feel of them.
07:41He's subsuming himself in those just in the same way that he tried to make Call Me By Your Name
07:45look like something you could have found back then.
07:48Yeah.
07:48And the ivory would have made.
07:50We used to see horror as a genre that a lot of filmmakers and actors started out with.
07:54Yeah.
07:55And now we're seeing a lot of very established names moving into the horror space.
07:59Why do you think that is?
08:01Well, I think what's happened in the industry is that there's no longer any barriers separating people.
08:07Horror was like the ugly stepchild of film for a long time.
08:11So it was over on the side.
08:12And so they probably in the beginning couldn't get big name stars to be in it.
08:16So they had to get a starlet that wanted some credits to be the first one that dies in a
08:19film.
08:20Octavia Spencer now is who's always loved horror.
08:22I've known her for a while and she's always loved horror.
08:24She's now getting into it herself.
08:26And it's like the mothership calling her home and she's an Oscar winner and multiple nominated.
08:32And she has chosen one of her next films to be a horror film where she gets to just destroy
08:36everybody.
08:37So I think there's just no there's no stigma.
08:39There's no barriers.
08:40And everybody is free to let their freak flag fly no matter where they are on the A list, B
08:45list, whatever list.
08:47They can just enjoy it if that's your thing.
08:50It's not our thing.
08:50But if it's a horror thing.
08:52No, I mean, I imagine that making a horror film is probably enormously fun.
08:56I think it's really difficult, you know, and especially depending on like what type of, you know, effects and things
09:01you have.
09:02It's very physically strenuous.
09:03But it seems really fun.
09:04And honestly, I'd probably rather like be involved in the making of a horror film than, you know, going to
09:09see one.
09:10Because then at least it like lessens the scare a little bit.
09:13But I get it.
09:14And it's great that it doesn't have it no longer has that sort of like D list schlock.
09:17Yeah, you know, cast on it, there's like prestige horror and that's a great opportunity for artists, many of whom
09:24grew up loving the genre to be able to get into it.
09:27That's right.
09:27Also financially, I think if you look at the state of the industry, I think it's probably been very restrictive
09:32outside of the world of television for creators.
09:35Because you have these mega blockbusters where good luck, every two million people are picking the color of the paint
09:42on the wall.
09:43Good luck having any real expression in that.
09:46And then the mid-range film largely went away and went to television.
09:50All of the character work went to television.
09:52So horror is this pocket where the investment is low enough to allow filmmakers to have a level of autonomy
10:01and control.
10:02And then the payoff, the potential payoff is so rich that now they have carte blanche on whatever they're doing
10:09next.
10:09It makes a ton of sense to me to want to go into that genre now.
10:13I think also it provides vehicles for actresses to deliver iconic performances a lot of the time.
10:19You know, you could be the mom, the love interest in a big studio superhero movie.
10:25Or you can do something that's really rip-roaring for like $10 million.
10:29And sometimes that might end up being one of your signature roles.
10:32And also, a lot of times to get the big names, they'll give you back in.
10:35So, you know, you can do this little small horror film and back up houses.
10:39Right.
10:41Can I give you a small hint if you're in a horror movie and feeling really scared?
10:45Okay.
10:45What I do is if it actually starts to scare me, I just picture the frame and I step back
10:50from it and I picture a grip scratching his butt.
10:53Oh, that's helpful.
10:55And immediately you will not be scared.
10:57See, that's scarier to me, frankly.
11:01Speaking of scary moments like a grip scratching his butt, what would you guys say are some of the scariest
11:07moments that stand out in your mind from horror films of the past, of the far past, or of the
11:11recent past?
11:12There's obviously the shower scene in Psycho, which might be a little less scary now than it was when it
11:16originally came out.
11:17There's my personal favorite, Adon there's Sutherland screaming.
11:21Everything from The Exorcist scares the crap out of me.
11:24Particularly that spider walk of her coming down the stairs.
11:27But what are some iconic moments in horror that you guys point to?
11:30You know, I don't know if this is actually, I mean, it is a horror film because it scared me,
11:34but I don't know if it's like technically a horror film.
11:35But any scene in the hallway in The Shining.
11:37Any one.
11:39The two little girls, him on the little big wheel, any one of them.
11:44Terrifying.
11:45I tend to go for tension and a sense of humor when it comes to horror.
11:50Tension because I love that suspense and humor because it sits so easily alongside being scared.
11:57Sometimes even when you're super scared by something in a serious way, you'll laugh just to react to it.
12:01So I like films like Gremlins or Scream, especially that first sequence in Scream.
12:07What's your scene?
12:07What's your scene?
12:08Well, so that first sequence in Scream, like with Drew Barrymore, the escalation of it.
12:13So good.
12:14Because it's funny and suspenseful.
12:15And yeah, I mean, it's scary at the very end when he finally slays her.
12:20But the scariest part is just wondering where it's going to go and that escalation.
12:26That to me is always more fun than a good jump scare.
12:29Yeah.
12:29Well, I mean, I did see The Exorcist for some reason.
12:32So obviously everything in The Exorcist.
12:33But I think for me, the scariest scene in all of like cinema is Matthew Lawrence walking into Robin Williams
12:39using the bathroom in Mrs. Doubtfire.
12:41I'm joking.
12:42I'm not kidding.
12:43That's the scariest movie I've ever seen.
12:45I mean, like guys, think about it.
12:48It's like the woman that you trust to be taking care of you is actually your dad.
12:53You walked in on him and then his face falls off during a restaurant.
12:56Did you see the YouTube where it recuts that as a horror movie?
12:58I don't need to.
12:59It is a horror movie.
13:01They already did it the original time.
13:03But for me, Mrs. Doubtfire, scariest movie I've ever seen.
13:06What you've seen?
13:08You know, I've watched so many different kinds of horror movies.
13:10So I was racing through going.
13:13But to be honest, and I don't know that this will totally count as a horror movie, but it is
13:17to me, which is irreversible, which for me, it is a horror movie.
13:23And the way that movie is constructed is it's told backwards.
13:27And the cameras are on these wires the entire time.
13:34So it's this kinetic, moving, pacing, violent tracing back of a very violent rape.
13:41And by the time you get to it, it's on sticks for what feels like forever.
13:47And you're with her in this tunnel.
13:50And it's one shot.
13:51And you can't escape it.
13:52And it is brutal.
13:54And it is ugly.
13:55And it is the only time in a theater I've almost fainted.
14:00But on a lighter note.
14:01You almost fainted.
14:02Anything is a lighter note.
14:04The Michael Myers head tilt is a delight.
14:08Classic moment.
14:09I'm scared now.
14:10I'm having second thoughts about doing this horror panel.
14:13What do you guys think?
14:15What's your favorite horror movie or horror scene of all time?
14:17Let us know in the comments down below.
14:19And make sure to check back here every Friday morning for new episodes of Heat Vision Breakdown.
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