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Heat Vision's Patrick Shanley sits down with special guests Yvette Nicole Brown, Roth Cornet, Kyle Buchanan and Rebecca Sun for a candid conversation about all the best upcoming movies in 2018.
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00:03Hello everyone and welcome to Heat Vision's Fall Movie Breakdown.
00:07I am joined by a wonderful panel of people including Roth Cornette, Yvette Nicole Brown, Kyle Buchanan, and Rebecca Sun.
00:15In addition to being movie lovers, you are all experts. Yvette, you're obviously an actor yourself.
00:19Well, Kyle was an expert. Wait a minute.
00:21You're experts to me. And most importantly, we are all movie lovers.
00:26This year has been a good year for movies so far, but we still have a lot of a way
00:30to go and a lot more movies to see.
00:32I want to talk about which movies we are most excited to see coming up in calendar year 2018.
00:37To get everyone going a little bit, I'll talk about my own anticipated movies.
00:41I'm excited for Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, which is an animated take on a different Spider-Man,
00:46since there are lots of Spider-Men in the universe.
00:48We have Venom coming up. We have Fantastic Beasts. We have Shane Black's The Predator.
00:52There's a lot of great studio movies coming up, a lot of indie fare. We get into Oscar season. A
00:57lot of stuff to talk about.
00:58You just listed some of the biggest and most anticipated films of the year, but especially for me Into the
01:03Spider-Verse.
01:03And I love Homecoming too, Spider-Man Homecoming.
01:06But this is probably the most excited I've been for one of their comic book movies in quite some time,
01:12because we're going to see Miles Morales. We're going to see Spider-Ham.
01:16We're going to see Nick Cage as Spider-Noir. I mean, this could not get more bonkers. It looks beautiful.
01:22This is produced by Chris Miller and Phil Lord, who can take any coffee cup idea and turn it into
01:28magic. I don't know how.
01:29Yeah, I just love that we were talking about having notes earlier, which I have mine right here under my
01:33hip,
01:33and you just pulled all that out the top of your head.
01:36This is very disappointing for me in my memory.
01:38If I have to pick something, I mean, I'm excited about a lot of things, but Wreck-It Ralph 2,
01:42I'm such a kid at heart.
01:44And just the idea of that is amazing. Not only because it's just, Sarah Silverman's amazing and it's all that,
01:49but there's so many inside jokes and little things that you can catch if you just even just watch the
01:53trailer,
01:53which is all I've seen so far. And also Fantastic Beasts, because Jude Law is a young Dumbledore on the
01:59town.
01:59I'm like, yes, bring it. Yeah, it looks amazing.
02:02I'm excited for a lot of the big studio product, but we're also getting a whole lot of good independent
02:07films
02:07and smaller films from people who've previously won Best Director or Best Picture at the Oscars.
02:12New movies from Damien Chazelle, First Man, Barry Jenkins, If Beale Street Could Talk,
02:18Steve McQueen's Widows, and there's Alfonso Cuaron's Roma for Netflix.
02:22It's so exciting if you're a fan of those directors.
02:25Yeah, I think you guys mentioned, you know, I'm really excited about Widows.
02:28I'm really excited about Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, which will sort of delve into, you know,
02:33the non-mainstream characters of the Spider-Verse, Spider-Gwen and, you know, all of that.
02:37So excited for Spider-Gwen.
02:39I'm also really excited about A Star is Born, which is one of those big studio fairs, Warner Brothers.
02:44I mean, it's, you know, Bradley Cooper directing. I'm really excited to see what he does.
02:48But Lady Gaga, you know, when I was watching the trailer, I was not prepared for when she opens her
02:53mouth and starts to sing.
02:55And the swell, like, I just, the lump in my throat, the tears, I was like...
02:58Yeah, goosebumps.
02:59I think people forget, well, sometimes, because there's always so much going on around her presentational-wise,
03:04that she's really one of the best singers that we have.
03:06And when she just stands flat-footed and opens her mouth, there's very few that can hang with her.
03:10Can we also talk about Bradley Cooper's voice in that trailer?
03:13Was that really him?
03:13How could he sing? I had no idea that he could do that.
03:16I think that, you know, I read that, you know, she helped him with his, you know, vocal training,
03:20and he helped her, you know, with the performance aspect and the chemistry scene.
03:24I would have never imagined Bradley Cooper with Lady Gaga, but the chemistry seems like it's working.
03:29How many times have you watched that trailer?
03:31Five a day.
03:33That sounds reasonable to me.
03:34I like that it's an original take on something that we've already seen.
03:38Obviously, I'm gonna say something that's very new and nobody's had this take before.
03:42There's a lot of sequels and there's a lot of remakes happening in Hollywood right now.
03:44What?!
03:44I know, right? I got my finger on the pulse, everybody.
03:47But that being said, it doesn't mean that they're all necessarily bad or that it's a bad thing for Hollywood.
03:51We have a lot of sequels and spinoffs coming up, obviously, this year.
03:54We have a new Predator coming out.
03:56We have Aquaman, which is based off of comic book movies.
03:58Comic book movies are everywhere.
04:00We have another in the line of The Girl in the Spider's Web,
04:03which is in line with The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
04:05And yet, a lot of these are very different from their source material that they first started off with
04:10or new iterations.
04:10We're kind of moving it forward even though they are in a universe that we're all familiar with.
04:15Is it a good thing?
04:16Are you excited for any of these projects specifically?
04:18The Girl in the Spider's Web, I actually got to visit the set and saw some of what Claire Foy
04:24was doing with that character.
04:25It's really impressive.
04:27Even just, we saw them shoot.
04:29Did you guys see the trailer?
04:30Yes.
04:30So you know that opening sequence?
04:32Yes.
04:33The white, like powder.
04:34Yes.
04:35So we saw her, her point of view, her taking that sequence.
04:39And it was really incredible and impressive.
04:41It's also Freddy Alvarez.
04:43So you know that there are going to be sort of horror elements to it and suspense added.
04:48They have, I think, taken what that character is on paper.
04:51This is also based on a book that was not written by Stieg Larsson.
04:55Okay.
04:55So it really is a fresh take.
04:57I will say that I think that they are leaning more into who Lisbeth is.
05:02Not so much as acting from her damage.
05:05She's always going to be acting from her damage.
05:08But empowered by her damage.
05:09And that feels like a very fresh take on that character to me.
05:13I'm excited about Creed too.
05:15Oh yeah.
05:16Primarily because I'll watch Michael B. Jordan in anything.
05:18But I also think that Sylvester Stallone is always surprising.
05:21And anytime he can go back and be Rocky, I'm here for it.
05:24And Tessa Thompson is one of the greatest actors of her generation, I feel.
05:28And she's a chameleon and can become anything just like Claire Foy.
05:31Because she was in two of the trailers I watched for this moment.
05:34And I was like, that's Claire again?
05:35And she's been the queen?
05:36Like, it's just so much going on with Claire Foy.
05:38For people who didn't grow up with the Rocky franchise,
05:40this is such a departure from what Rocky was originally.
05:43I mean, it keeps in the same vein.
05:45And it does feel, at least Creed did, felt like a Rocky movie in the next generation of it.
05:49But it's completely revamping this franchise, which has been around since the 1970s.
05:53And that's, it almost seems like a rare way to do this and such a smart way to take on.
05:58Yeah, at the same time, it's so clever about how it remembers those emotional beats
06:01and finds new ways to restage them.
06:04I was also going to say Creed 2.
06:05And it's because the first Creed was so masterful in knowing exactly what it was,
06:10giving you the things that you would think you would want in a sequel,
06:13and yet making it feel like you're watching it for the first time.
06:16So even though I finished the first Creed and I thought,
06:18I don't even know if I need a sequel to this.
06:20It's such a complete story.
06:22If you're going to trust anybody to be able to do that and make it feel fresh, it's them.
06:26I also think that with Creed 2, what I'm interested in is, you know, obviously,
06:30so Ryan Coogler is not directing Creed 2,
06:32but there's a really capable young black director, Stephen Caple Jr., who's doing it.
06:37So it will be nice to see, then you'll really be able to see the differences in the directorial voice.
06:41I'm also excited about the fact that Creed 2 was written by Stallone, obviously,
06:45but also Chiyohodari Coker, who is the showrunner for Luke Cage.
06:49And so I think having his voice in there gives me a lot of faith in the story
06:54and that, you know, the plot is about, I think, Creed...
06:57I'm sorry, Adonis sort of confronting Drago's son.
07:00So there's definitely a pitfall where you could be like,
07:03are you just redoing every old Rocky?
07:06But I kind of have faith in this team that what they're going to do is they're going to advance
07:12it
07:12and it will be sort of a meta confrontation of those things.
07:15So that's very exciting.
07:16For me, the title bout is Michael B. Jordan confronting Felicia Rashad.
07:20So as long as they give me that up.
07:22I think they will.
07:23When we get to the end of any year, it's obvious we like to look back on what came the
07:27year before.
07:28So far in 2018, I think it's been a good year for movies.
07:31I've enjoyed a lot of bigger movies this year and some smaller movies as well.
07:35How do you guys think it stacks up to 2017, particularly at this point?
07:38And I'll just read off a couple so we know in 2017 what we were looking forward to.
07:43We had It, which was about to come out, which I think might have been my favorite movie of 2017.
07:47I just love that movie.
07:48Blade Runner 2049, another one of my favorite movies.
07:51We had Murder on the Orient Express, Justice League, which was not my favorite movie.
07:55The Shape of Water, which went on to win Best Picture.
07:57There was a lot of films upcoming at this point in 2017 and we find ourselves here again.
08:02How do you think this year stacks up to last year?
08:04Well, we haven't seen a lot of the studio, the big studio films yet.
08:07So I think it's hard for me to say in regards to what, how it stacks up in that regard.
08:11But I do think we had a lot of really splashy, interesting films this year.
08:15And as a person of color, Black Panther just eclipsed the entire year for me.
08:20Like at the end of the year, I don't care what else I see, that's still going to be the
08:23biggest movie moment for me.
08:24Because of the opportunity to finally see the fullness of who we are demonstrated in film in a way that
08:30was just so, just life changing.
08:33So it's hard to say about the studio stuff to come, but Black Panther for me makes 2018 a banner
08:39year.
08:39Yeah, we won't know until the end of the year whether it's better, but we can safely say that it's
08:43more.
08:44It is more.
08:44That we are living in an era where even from year to year there are more options.
08:48Yeah.
08:49You know, there's so much yet to come this year, but it's competing with not just Netflix movies, but Netflix
08:54television shows, you know, regular terrestrial cable.
08:57There's just so much.
08:59But I think if you look back at what we've seen already this year, movies like Black Panther or A
09:03Quiet Place, the way that they can still pop and dominate the cultural conversation for weeks, if not months.
09:10It goes to show you that like movie going when it's at its best and you have that communal experience
09:15in the theater, it can't be tough.
09:16Well, it's almost like it's the only way we can have a communal experience now because everything is being binged.
09:21Right.
09:21So there's there now is there still a date when it comes out.
09:24Everybody has to go on this date and then people can talk about it immediately after that date.
09:28And it used to be television was like that and it's not anymore.
09:30So but also things are so polarized right now.
09:32So how wonderful to be able to pile into a theater and just just agree that it's some good entertainment.
09:39I mean, that's right.
09:40I mean, I think that there's so much content nowadays that honestly, sometimes I'm watching a 2017 film in 2018,
09:46you know, just because there was no time to get to everything.
09:48And because of the volume of content, there are always going to be things that really stand out.
09:53There are always going to be things that disappoint.
09:54And there's like a huge middle.
09:56You know, I will say that like last year, Shape of Water was probably one of my highlights toward the
10:00end of the year.
10:00But the all of 2017 was dominated by Get Out for me.
10:03Oh, yes.
10:04Which I thought was the movie of our entire era.
10:07It's it tells you exactly where America is right now.
10:09And it was genre defying this year.
10:12You know, I'll make my plug as somebody who hasn't seen somebody who looks like me on screen in 25
10:17years.
10:18Crazy Rich Asians.
10:18Crazy Rich Asians.
10:19It's one of those things where you feel that there is this interest and it's not with Asian people.
10:24It's not even just with people of color.
10:26I think it's with anybody who's very excited about what these movies mean beyond just, you know, the bound of
10:32the film.
10:32And it's also why it's important, no matter what your race is, to go and support a film like Crazy
10:37Rich Asians, because I need more of them to be made.
10:40And so the only way the industry knows that they should make more is if it's a big opening weekend
10:46for them and that people tell their friends and they go.
10:48So I'm rooting for that film to do well.
10:50I will say, too, sorry, that the theatrical experience that you guys were saying in the theater.
10:55It was so important for me to be in the theater opening weekend for like Get Out for Black Panther,
11:00all those things, not just for the dollars, but for that experience of hearing people reacting to the same things,
11:06gasping, laughing, crying at the same time.
11:09So, you know, cultural watershed movies like that, you definitely, you want to see it for the first time along
11:15with everybody else, don't wait.
11:16When you saw Crazy Rich Asians, was it in a big crowded theater?
11:19I did, I did.
11:19So what was that like?
11:20It was honestly like incredibly emotional and it's a romantic comedy, but like, you know, people, you could hear weeping
11:28in moments, you know.
11:30The wedding scene.
11:31The wedding scene, exactly.
11:33It's a great wedding scene.
11:33It's the most beautiful wedding scene you've ever seen.
11:35Yeah, you could hear weeping during that time and this collective, you know, gasps whenever something happened and it's, you
11:42know, there are no experiences like that anymore where you're all really moving as one mind.
11:47Yeah.
11:48Well, it's opening the door for a lot of new voices and a lot of people who have now cemented
11:52themselves as people that were excited to see what their next work is going to be.
11:55Obviously, we talked about Black Panther, we talked about Cree, we have Ryan Coogler, we have Jordan Peele who's coming
11:59out next year with his next follow up to Get Out.
12:02So, in this age where we talk about are movie stars left, are there any movie stars left, people that
12:07you go to the theater to see, there are these new voices and I'm interested to know, do you have
12:11a filmmaker that you look for as soon as they come out with a new movie, you are there in
12:15that theater?
12:16Ava DuVernay for me.
12:18I think she takes a lot of risks.
12:20Absolutely.
12:20And I think that she's unapologetic in her risks.
12:23And I love that.
12:24And it's like whether she rises or falls, she's going to, it's going to be the choice that she made
12:29and I love that.
12:31And also I hear that she creates a beautiful environment on set and we were talking a little earlier about
12:36it all begins from the top and trickles down.
12:38And if you have a director that's kind and wants to have a fun environment, it makes, as an actor,
12:43it makes being on the set great.
12:44So to hear that, to know that she's a visionary and is amazing, but is also make sure it's a
12:49kind environment.
12:50I'm like, come on, Ava.
12:51He has a girl.
12:52To me it's Steve McQueen.
12:53I think he has, yeah.
12:55He has this incredible ability to, especially with Widows where he's sort of stepping up and taking on the genre,
13:02the sort of dramatic crime thriller.
13:04But in every scene, he is infusing it with something that he is interested in.
13:09Yes.
13:09He will linger on something.
13:11He will shoot it in an interesting way.
13:13There will be something fascinating happening at the margins.
13:16So you feel a full meal from this.
13:19It's truly the kind of movie where you could take any three minutes and talk about it for a half
13:23hour.
13:23Oh, I love that.
13:24A film class movie, man.
13:25Yes.
13:25Yes, truly.
13:26Steve McQueen, yeah, for me, he's, there's many directors that I will go see their films.
13:32But Widows in particular, I think that the combination of Steve McQueen and Gillian Flynn is fascinating because she is
13:41unflinching when it comes to her characterizations of women.
13:44And that is so rare.
13:46They are allowed to be flawed.
13:48They are allowed to be villainous.
13:50They are allowed to be multi and not even allowed, just invited.
13:53These are very richly drawn characters.
13:57And he is a filmmaker that I think unfortunately is often very misunderstood with Shame.
14:01That was probably my favorite movie that year.
14:04And people said, Michael Fassbender, why am I meant to feel bad for him for having a lot of sex?
14:08That is not that film.
14:10But that said, her words through his lens, I think is going to present far more than we're even seeing
14:18in these trailers, which are evocative enough on their own.
14:21Yeah, I think both Flynn and McQueen especially, they're not interested if you can relate to the character.
14:27They're interested in if you're fascinated by those characters.
14:31And when you cast the women that that movie has cast, Viola Davis, Elizabeth Debicki, Carrie Coon, Cynthia Erivo, Michelle
14:38Rodriguez, I mean, I'd watch them do just about anything.
14:41Frankly, I relate far more to a person who is struggling with their own pain in humanity than to some
14:47perfect image of a hero or hero.
14:49Right, because no one is perfect.
14:51No one is.
14:51Everybody has layers.
14:52And it's something that dominated television for years and years.
14:55And we see it explored so in-depthly in television and what we consider the greatest shows of all time
15:00really focus on these areas.
15:01So to see it in film, you have a much smaller area to explore that, but it is an interesting
15:06thing to really dig into.
15:08I think speaking of that transition from television to film, you know, one person who I think is making his
15:12directorial debut, Bad Times at El Royale, is that Drew Goddard's first, right?
15:16Cabin in the Woods.
15:17Yeah, he directed.
15:18Oh, he directed, co-directed.
15:19So, but that's somebody who, like, I'm interested in his work because I've been a fan of his since he
15:24was a staff writer on Buffy the Vampire.
15:26Yes!
15:27Buffy!
15:27So, you know, so he has a distinct, you know, voice.
15:31I trust his characterization.
15:33I trust the way he, like, tells stories.
15:36You know, he has an askew perspective.
15:37And so it's really neat to see, like, what is he going to do with an entirely new universe of
15:42people for, like, two hours?
15:43And I know that the ensemble character play will be really, really solid.
15:47And so that really invites curiosity, you know, to me.
15:50He's not as established as a movie maker, but that's what's exciting.
15:54I'm glad we brought that movie up.
15:55A, I'm a Tahoe boy myself, so it's nice to see some representation.
15:58B, it brings Jon Hamm back to the 60s, so I'm all for that.
16:01And then three, it is an original story in a crowded landscape of sequels and remakes.
16:07And this film looks bananas.
16:09There's a lot going on in it.
16:10I'm really excited for this movie.
16:11I'm not sure if you guys have had a chance to look at the trailer, but it looks fantastic.
16:15Also, can we unpack, are they being, what's happening?
16:20Because are they being sort of, like, observed and judged?
16:25I feel like I'm watching, like, three trailers at the same time.
16:27It's like three separate stories, and I am disoriented every time I watch it, but I want more.
16:31In the best possible way.
16:33Exactly, yeah.
16:33Yeah, it makes it impossible not to see the movie.
16:35But, you know, you were saying, do we have new stars?
16:38And I think more and more I'm more intrigued by the ensemble that a movie will put together.
16:41So is there a specific star that I'll go to the movies for?
16:44Not as much as if I see, okay, this is a movie that has Jeff Bridges, Chris Hemsworth, Dakota Johnson,
16:51Cynthia Erivo, Jon Hamm all on board.
16:54Because that makes me wonder what they all saw on it.
16:56And it makes me think that director's got a sensibility to go for all of those.
16:59Is this us living in a post-Infinity War world?
17:03Is that what we expect now?
17:04Oh, right.
17:04Now we see every single movie star on one.
17:06But I feel like this conversation about are there still stars that open movies has been going on for so
17:12long,
17:12and largely we all believe that no franchises open movies.
17:17And I think if you look at Tom Cruise, that bears out, right?
17:21He is one of the biggest movie stars on the planet.
17:24The Rock, who's a massive movie star, cannot just open a movie.
17:27He can open Jumanji.
17:29Well, I think the reason people can't anymore is it's just so much entertainment.
17:33Where back when we were younger, you were looking forward to a Tom Cruise movie
17:36because there was like a Tom Cruise movie and then three months of nothing.
17:39You know what I mean?
17:40So it's like, I need this.
17:41I need to see this.
17:43Now you have so much entertainment everywhere that you don't need the fix as much.
17:47Because you can see, I can go see The Rock in a new movie, or I can watch The Rock
17:50on Ballers.
17:51There's no longer, and I'm happy about this, there's no longer film stars and TV stars.
17:56Everybody does everything.
17:58They do voiceover, they do whatever.
17:59So it's not the only way I can see this person is if I go to the theater to see
18:04them.
18:04So there's no real urgency anymore to get you fixed with that person in a dark theater.
18:09So I think that's why they do the ensemble.
18:11It's like, I'm going to throw 12 people in.
18:12Somebody wants to see somebody.
18:13I wanted to go back to a point Roth made earlier about how stars don't open its franchises now.
18:19Because I think that's really important, and I think that Hollywood decision makers haven't fully understood that yet.
18:25It's important to realize that when you look at the biggest box office stars, the ones who have made the
18:32most money,
18:32it's really the strength of the franchise.
18:34Because what that's doing is it's keeping people from breaking new talent, right?
18:38So a few months ago when we had the Scarlett Johansson controversy with Robin Tug, like, people were saying,
18:43well, no, she's a huge movie star.
18:44So, you know, you need her in this movie, this period piece about a transgender person in order to make
18:51the movie hit.
18:52She's not a movie star.
18:52She's in Avengers.
18:54And that's why it's successful.
18:55If you look at her non-Avengers films other than Lucy, they don't make as much money.
18:59It's not a slam against her.
19:00But that kind of conventional wisdom keeps new faces from being able to be broken out.
19:05You know who actually gets exactly what you're talking about?
19:08Samuel L. Jackson.
19:09Mm-hmm.
19:10Samuel L. Jackson, I think he fully understands that he's Samuel L. Jackson.
19:13I don't think it's a self-esteem issue at all.
19:15I don't want to say that.
19:16He wakes up and he knows.
19:16He knows it's Samuel L. Jackson-ness.
19:18But he has no problem being a cog in a machine.
19:22He looks and goes, I'm going to be a cog in a huge machine and I might be in two
19:26scenes.
19:27But it's going to be the Star Wars second trilogy.
19:30Or I'm going to be in the last five seconds of Infinity War, but it's going to spin me off
19:35into the next thing.
19:36Like, he's okay being amongst a whole bunch of people because he understands that his Samuel L. Jackson-ness
19:41is always going to show up no matter what.
19:43I think for some people in life, if you let your ego step back for a minute, you actually can
19:48be a part of some really amazing things.
19:49So, I don't think it's so important to be the star in the movie.
19:53Just be in a really cool movie.
19:55Like, think of Murder on the Orient Express.
19:57Like, that was 57 people and all of them could hold the screen in their 10 minutes of time.
20:02And nobody was like, well, who's number one on that?
20:04Doesn't matter.
20:05You're in the film and you're doing great work.
20:08A one, not number one.
20:09Exactly.
20:10We talked a lot about actors who are, you know, signing on for six films, signing on for trilogies, working
20:16in a lot of things.
20:16Obviously, the Marvel actors are all doing this.
20:18And yet, we do have certain people who have never even appeared in a sequel.
20:22We have actors like Leonardo DiCaprio.
20:23Tom Hardy is a really good example and he has an upcoming film with Venom, which is interesting in a
20:29lot of ways because,
20:30A, we're going to focus on a character who I never thought would get a standalone movie.
20:33And I'm sure we want a standalone movie for Venom, but it looks all right.
20:37And then Tom Hardy is just, you want to talk about chameleons, the things he does with his voice, the
20:42decisions he makes as an actor.
20:43He's a very interesting actor.
20:44A lot of people have drawn parallels between him and an early Johnny Depp career or mid-Johnny Depp career.
20:49So, I'm not sure if you guys have any thoughts on Venom the movie itself or Tom Hardy's career in
20:54a larger sense.
20:55I mean, I'm excited for the inevitable Tom Hardy career retrospective clip reel.
21:00As long as it's subtitled, I'm in, okay.
21:04He's also just very interesting to watch in whatever he does.
21:07You know what I mean? Even if I don't, if he's a villain, if he's an anti-villain, I don't
21:11know.
21:11I just always just enjoy him.
21:13He's fun to look at and not from just because he's handsome, but just what is he going to do?
21:18What is his face going to do? What decision is he going to make?
21:20He's really interesting to watch as an actor.
21:22I think Tom Hardy is basically a character actor with leading man looks, you know?
21:26And so I always find that interesting because his choices are going to be so like quirky and weird.
21:32And he's like, he always goes like a thousand percent into like transforming his, you know, everything about his character.
21:37And so that's definitely very intriguing to me.
21:40The other thing you guys should do is Google Tom Hardy rapping.
21:44Because I recently listened to some like early raps he did when he was in his early 20s in the
21:49UK.
21:49Who has a phone right now.
21:49Holds up. So, I also wanted to say that.
21:53I think Venom has such a huge curiosity factor for me because they have been trying to crack it for
21:59over a decade.
22:00Avi Arad started I think in 2007 trying to figure Venom out.
22:04Alex Kurtzman was attached at a certain point before he went off to do the dark universe.
22:09So this is going to be interesting to see what they finally landed on.
22:13And there even today Sony or very recently Sony came out and was sort of talking about their plan with
22:19Venom and not wanting to go hard R with it.
22:22Because they wanted to a world in which Venom and the very PG-13 Spider-Man could coexist at a
22:28certain point.
22:28So how that all coalesces together when Comic-Con is like, he's going to eat a head.
22:34It's going to be like, I can't wait to see what happens once the lights go down.
22:42I just challenge Hollywood to stop obscuring Tom Hardy's face.
22:46You know?
22:47He's always covered.
22:48They get jealous.
22:48It's always covered with something whether it's a mask or prosthetics or an alien studio.
22:53What's great about him is that he is that character actor in a leading man's body and yet we get
22:58so few roles where he can kind of just be that wonderful, handsome leading man.
23:03Like Inception.
23:04Yeah.
23:05And that broke him open and now we can't get that.
23:07Now he can be weird again.
23:09Yeah.
23:09He was in a rom-com with Reese Witherspoon.
23:13This is war.
23:13This means war.
23:14This means war.
23:15Oh my gosh.
23:16I love him.
23:17He's a million.
23:18A million.
23:19A million.
23:20And he also enunciated.
23:22It's a lovely song.
23:22I could understand.
23:23That's why I didn't know it was Tom Hardy.
23:25I was like, I can understand this gentleman.
23:28We don't have a Star Wars this December, which has become a yearly rollout.
23:32And we had one earlier this year and it was one of the only ones to not do super great.
23:36But we are Star Wars-less this year.
23:39Are people excited for that?
23:41Does it feel nice to not have a Star Wars?
23:43To be Star Wars?
23:43No, it doesn't feel nice to me.
23:44I love Star Wars.
23:45I'm very sad that there's not another.
23:46And I could have done Solo and something else too.
23:48Like I, you know, I can go to one every month.
23:51I love Star Wars, so.
23:52I think you're like my brother who like got married with Star Wars cake toppers and like
23:56Star Wars theme and stuff.
23:58But I think for everybody else it will help the franchise because it needs to breathe a
24:02little bit.
24:03Because what was so exciting, even for somebody who's not like a hardcore diehard Star Wars
24:07fan, you know, the anticipation for, you know, Last Jedi and things like that.
24:11It just felt like it's been a long time coming.
24:14I can't wait to see them back on screen.
24:16And so this will just allow it to like re, you know, recharge that meter.
24:20Refill it a little bit.
24:21And I think it creates an opportunity for different kinds of end of the year blockbusters.
24:25You have Mary Poppins Returns.
24:27You have Aquaman.
24:28So there's not one movie that's going to be dwarfing everything.
24:32Still owned by Disney though, so.
24:35Well, Aquaman.
24:36Well, I'm excited for Aquaman.
24:37What are your guys' thoughts on Aquaman?
24:38Because the character himself is not the most fascinating in the world.
24:41Oh, I'm all in.
24:43Really?
24:43I am.
24:44That trailer has me.
24:46Yes.
24:46Ride a shark.
24:47Ride people.
24:48Absolutely.
24:50Ride a shark.
24:51Ride a shark.
24:52Black Mantle looks like the character should look.
24:55They are fully embracing what, A, Jason Momoa, and I think his boundless charms and exuberance.
25:03It's a shame he's not good looking though.
25:05Yeah, that's too bad.
25:05Poor Jason Momoa.
25:06That is like cut.
25:07He's going through life with bad face.
25:09He's so scrawny.
25:10Doesn't work out.
25:12It's horrible.
25:13I mean, I'll watch it anyway.
25:15Mostly because you feel bad for him.
25:16I feel bad for him.
25:16Mostly because you feel bad for him.
25:18And his poor wife.
25:19Yeah.
25:19Has to go home to that every night.
25:21My self-esteem is destroyed and all that stuff.
25:24He's just, I mean, it just looks like it's going to be a really fun romp.
25:26Yeah, I think so.
25:27It does.
25:27And I'm ready for the camp of it all and just, let's just do it.
25:30And James Wan, I mean, I feel like what he demonstrates is a complete ability to understand the genre he's
25:37in.
25:37And it feels to me that that's going to be true of Aquaman.
25:41He is embracing who and what that character is in all of his glory.
25:46And get me to that underwater fantasy.
25:48Get me there.
25:49I think that that movie needs to really lean into its quirk.
25:53And it's, you know, sort of Jason Momoa being a really flippant surfer dude.
25:57James Wan's like eccentricity.
25:59And I mean, underwater always plays well.
26:01Like people love watching.
26:03I love what, you know, Shape of Water, Finding Nemo.
26:05Just set it underwater.
26:06You've got me.
26:07Right.
26:07But they really need to lean into the shark riding aspects of it.
26:11Because other than that, the structure of the story is kind of like Thor 1, you know, to me.
26:16Or Black Panther.
26:16Yeah, Black Panther.
26:17A fish out of water story.
26:20Nicely done.
26:20Very familiar type of thing.
26:22But when you put on a different gloss, when you put a different attitude, a different tone on it, it'll
26:27distinguish it.
26:28And so that's what I'm looking forward to and hoping will happen with Aquaman.
26:32All right, we're going to close out with a couple questions.
26:34Sure.
26:34We're going to go rapid fire around.
26:35These are very hard-nosed questions.
26:37I apologize.
26:38My journalist hat is on now.
26:39The first one.
26:40What is your go-to movie snack?
26:43Uh, pasta.
26:44What is that?
26:45Pasta?
26:46I'm that person.
26:47Are you smuggling that in?
26:48I used to smuggle it in.
26:50With a Tupperware?
26:50Rigatoni with smoked mozzarella.
26:52It's delicious.
26:52Does it have to be rigatoni?
26:53Is that like the go-to movie pasta?
26:55That's the go-to.
26:56Skinny Pop.
26:56I'll bring it from home.
26:58Nachos.
26:59Nice.
26:59I want to not just eat it myself but let everybody else feel like they're eating it because the smell
27:04is so potent.
27:06Heavily buttered popcorn.
27:07Yes, girl.
27:08Good.
27:08I'm glad we got two popcorns.
27:09Mine is also popcorn, for what it's worth.
27:11And Junior Mints.
27:12I like to mix the two together.
27:13Oh, interesting.
27:14Next question.
27:14What is your biggest pet peeve in a movie theater?
27:17Oh, God.
27:17The biggest?
27:18There's so many.
27:19I was in a movie theater the other day where a woman brought in a blanket, opened up pasta, which
27:23I applauded, from home, and also was talking to her husband, Ann, on the phone.
27:28So it was like, wow.
27:30My biggest pet peeve is when you get into a theater and there's hardly anybody in it and you pick
27:35your perfect seat and someone comes in and sits right next to you and right in front of you.
27:40And it's like, we have this wonderful place to just spread out and here you are.
27:43Hello, Mary.
27:45Hi, John.
27:45I hate it.
27:47I hate it.
27:47I've accepted that people are addicted to their phones.
27:50They can't put them away.
27:51I understand.
27:52But have a little bit of shame.
27:54I agree.
27:55Hide it here.
27:56Yeah.
27:57Yeah.
27:58And people will just truly pull it out, max brightness, and they'll scroll through Instagram.
28:03I've seen people on Tinder in a movie theater.
28:06That's horrible.
28:07Pay attention.
28:08That's so sad.
28:08Mine is kind of judgmental, but it's people who bring young children into late-night movies that are rated, like,
28:15basically above a PG.
28:16Right.
28:17Like, it's not so much that it bothers me.
28:18It's not because the kids are crying or whatever.
28:20They'll be scared.
28:21It bothers me for the children.
28:22I'm just like, no, no, no, no.
28:23Put them to bed.
28:24Don't you want to sleep tonight?
28:25They're not supposed to be here.
28:27Right.
28:28I worked in a theater, so mine is industry-savvy.
28:31People who just leave things in the theater when you leave, you walk by a garbage can.
28:35I agree.
28:37I agree.
28:37That's so rude.
28:38Very disrespectful.
28:39Very rude.
28:40Thank you so much, everyone.
28:41That was a great conversation.
28:42And thank you all so much for watching.
28:44And make sure to check back here every Friday morning for new episodes of Heat Vision Breakdown.
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